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It's snerk time in Florida...again.
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says... On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 09:21:05 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 12:38:57 -0800, wrote: In good economic times, I would agree that projects should "stand on their own" financially and without gov't backing. But these are not good times, and it seems to me that most anything that creates or preserves jobs right now is better than continued unemployment and all the attendant consequences. Building unneeded/unwanted infrastructure with public funds is not good policy, good times or bad. There are plenty of worthwhile projects that need funding. All of which are opposed by Republicans, unless it's in their district. Then, they're opposed to it before they're for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah... Righties, righties, righties.. But you don't have an idea of your own... |
It's snerk time in Florida...again.
On 3/13/2011 4:50 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In , says... On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 09:21:05 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 12:38:57 -0800, wrote: In good economic times, I would agree that projects should "stand on their own" financially and without gov't backing. But these are not good times, and it seems to me that most anything that creates or preserves jobs right now is better than continued unemployment and all the attendant consequences. Building unneeded/unwanted infrastructure with public funds is not good policy, good times or bad. There are plenty of worthwhile projects that need funding. All of which are opposed by Republicans, unless it's in their district. Then, they're opposed to it before they're for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah... Righties, righties, righties.. But you don't have an idea of your own... She took a colon cleanse and that's what came out. |
It's snerk time in Florida...again.
On 3/13/2011 2:04 PM, BAR wrote:
In articleV5SdnacwvZJS5ubQnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389 @mypacks.net says... On 3/12/11 8:52 AM, BAR wrote: In articleAZudnfBksIiQfOfQnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@giganews. com, says... Landing fees don't tell the whole story. It is *considerably* cheaper to fly to Tampa rather than Orlando and hotels in Tampa are about half the price of Orlando. Yeah, but who the hell wants to fly to Tampa? There is nothing there. Busch Gardens and prostitutes! At least Tampa will have Harry as a customer. Why? Are the females in your family setting up shop there, to service the latest generation of marines? You wish. Ahh. You've seen what he's saddled with. No wonder he's checking out the new mares. |
It's snerk time in Florida...again.
On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 16:46:09 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote: On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 12:55:44 -0700, wrote: On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 09:21:05 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 12:38:57 -0800, wrote: In good economic times, I would agree that projects should "stand on their own" financially and without gov't backing. But these are not good times, and it seems to me that most anything that creates or preserves jobs right now is better than continued unemployment and all the attendant consequences. Building unneeded/unwanted infrastructure with public funds is not good policy, good times or bad. There are plenty of worthwhile projects that need funding. All of which are opposed by Republicans, unless it's in their district. Then, they're opposed to it before they're for it. The pork barrel is no stranger to either side of the aisle. Just as an FYI, I do no consider myself to be a Republican or a Democrat. They have both become way too polarized and polarizing for my taste. We need someone who can pull the country back together and I don't see much of that on the horizon. So how are you and Wilbur getting on? FYI, you're the one who claimed that there are "worthwhile" projects. All of them have been opposed by Republicans as I said. Who the heck is Wilbur? |
It's snerk time in Florida...again.
On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 17:03:25 -0400, Ernie wrote:
On 3/13/2011 4:50 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote: In , says... On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 09:21:05 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 12:38:57 -0800, wrote: In good economic times, I would agree that projects should "stand on their own" financially and without gov't backing. But these are not good times, and it seems to me that most anything that creates or preserves jobs right now is better than continued unemployment and all the attendant consequences. Building unneeded/unwanted infrastructure with public funds is not good policy, good times or bad. There are plenty of worthwhile projects that need funding. All of which are opposed by Republicans, unless it's in their district. Then, they're opposed to it before they're for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah... Righties, righties, righties.. But you don't have an idea of your own... She took a colon cleanse and that's what came out. Looks like you have a lot of experience with what comes out. |
It's snerk time in Florida...again.
On 3/13/2011 6:06 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 17:03:25 -0400, wrote: On 3/13/2011 4:50 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote: In , says... On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 09:21:05 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 12:38:57 -0800, wrote: In good economic times, I would agree that projects should "stand on their own" financially and without gov't backing. But these are not good times, and it seems to me that most anything that creates or preserves jobs right now is better than continued unemployment and all the attendant consequences. Building unneeded/unwanted infrastructure with public funds is not good policy, good times or bad. There are plenty of worthwhile projects that need funding. All of which are opposed by Republicans, unless it's in their district. Then, they're opposed to it before they're for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah... Righties, righties, righties.. But you don't have an idea of your own... She took a colon cleanse and that's what came out. Looks like you have a lot of experience with what comes out. GFY |
It's snerk time in Florida...again.
On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 15:24:40 -0500, wrote:
On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 14:57:12 -0500, Gene wrote: On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 13:44:10 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 12:17:00 -0500, Harryk wrote: I hate to say it because I do love the state, but Florida seems to elect one idiot after another for governor. "Three weeks after Gov. Rick Scott put the brakes on high-speed rail, the Florida Department of Transportation on Wednesday released a study showing the line connecting Tampa to Orlando would have had a $10.2 million operating surplus in 2015, its first year of operation. The study showed the line would have had a $28.6 million surplus in its 10th year." I'd guess Governor Scott nixed the project because he couldn't figure out a way to personally benefit from it. That was based on the wild assertion that 3 million people would ride on it. That is what the Acela gets, with 50 times the number of people within 50 miles of the stations. 3 million was a low-ball..... Acela doesn't serve Mickey World.... http://www2.tbo.com/content/2011/mar...-made-more-mo/ That is a bogus number. Are you really saying the meager populations of Tampa and Orlando would match the ridership of a train between Washington DC, Philadelphia, New York metro and Boston? Who would fly to Tampa to take a train to Orlando when Orlando has a nicer airport with lower landing fees (cheaper tickets) That is particularly true when you figure out it only takes about an hour to an hour and a half to drive it. You are not going to be able to do much in either town without a car anyway. If these cities want a commuter rail line, let them build it but don't confuse that with a cross state train line that will run empty most of the time. If half the population of Tampa, Clearwater, and St. Petersburg went to Disney World every day, they would easily meet that 3 million number. I can't understand why anyone would doubt that. I lived in Tampa for two years, with relatives in Cocoa. It's about a two hour drive to Cocoa, and an hour and a half or so to Orlando. It would probably take a lot more time to drive to the train station, park, wait for the train, get seated, take off, get there, get transportation, and arrive at a destination - like Disney World. Of course, Disney would have a bus at the train station to pick up the 3 million arrivals daily. |
It's snerk time in Florida...again.
On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 21:57:12 -0500, L G wrote:
I_am_Tosk wrote: In , says... On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 15:24:40 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 14:57:12 -0500, Gene wrote: On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 13:44:10 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 12:17:00 -0500, wrote: I hate to say it because I do love the state, but Florida seems to elect one idiot after another for governor. "Three weeks after Gov. Rick Scott put the brakes on high-speed rail, the Florida Department of Transportation on Wednesday released a study showing the line connecting Tampa to Orlando would have had a $10.2 million operating surplus in 2015, its first year of operation. The study showed the line would have had a $28.6 million surplus in its 10th year." I'd guess Governor Scott nixed the project because he couldn't figure out a way to personally benefit from it. That was based on the wild assertion that 3 million people would ride on it. That is what the Acela gets, with 50 times the number of people within 50 miles of the stations. 3 million was a low-ball..... Acela doesn't serve Mickey World.... http://www2.tbo.com/content/2011/mar...-made-more-mo/ That is a bogus number. Are you really saying the meager populations of Tampa and Orlando would match the ridership of a train between Washington DC, Philadelphia, New York metro and Boston? Who would fly to Tampa to take a train to Orlando when Orlando has a nicer airport with lower landing fees (cheaper tickets) That is particularly true when you figure out it only takes about an hour to an hour and a half to drive it. You are not going to be able to do much in either town without a car anyway. If these cities want a commuter rail line, let them build it but don't confuse that with a cross state train line that will run empty most of the time. Landing fees don't tell the whole story. It is *considerably* cheaper to fly to Tampa rather than Orlando and hotels in Tampa are about half the price of Orlando. Yeah, but who the hell wants to fly to Tampa? There is nothing there. Busch Gardens and prostitutes! And my alma mater, don't forget. |
It's snerk time in Florida...again.
On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 18:21:14 -0400, Ernie wrote:
On 3/13/2011 6:06 PM, wrote: On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 17:03:25 -0400, wrote: On 3/13/2011 4:50 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote: In , says... On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 09:21:05 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 12:38:57 -0800, wrote: In good economic times, I would agree that projects should "stand on their own" financially and without gov't backing. But these are not good times, and it seems to me that most anything that creates or preserves jobs right now is better than continued unemployment and all the attendant consequences. Building unneeded/unwanted infrastructure with public funds is not good policy, good times or bad. There are plenty of worthwhile projects that need funding. All of which are opposed by Republicans, unless it's in their district. Then, they're opposed to it before they're for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah... Righties, righties, righties.. But you don't have an idea of your own... She took a colon cleanse and that's what came out. Looks like you have a lot of experience with what comes out. GFY Poor baby... you can dish it but you can't take it. Typical little boy. |
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