It's snerk time in Florida...again.
 

Harryk wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 21:15:12 -0400,
wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 13:14:36 -0700, wrote:

On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 16:01:10 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 11:10:29 -0700, wrote:

On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 01:45:29 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 21:09:57 -0700, wrote:

On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 21:00:26 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 14:46:10 -0700, wrote:

No I just don't like stupid ideas.
Yet every and any liberal originated idea is terrible. If
not, please
point to a few that are ok with you.
Water quality, habitat preservation, decriminalizing "sin" to
name a
few
Nixon got the EPA going, T. Roosevelt founded the national park
system, you're claiming that Democrats didn't promote the war on
drugs?
Clinton's dea put more pot "criminals" in jail than Nixon and
Reagan
put together ... if that is what you are saying.
You claimed it was a liberal agenda to decriminalize "sin." I
pointed
out and you confirmed that's not the case, particularly.

FYI, I happen to agree that things like the EPA, habitat
preserv., and
decriminalizing sin are the right things to do. They're not,
however,
the exclusive agenda of the right or the left.

I do not consider Clinton that "liberal". He was the 4th Bush brother
and he admits it. I expect to see the Bushes, Clintons and Obamas all
out in Kennebunkport on Fidelity, laughing their ass off some day.
Now that's funny! I'm betting that your right-wing buddies would
probably disagree with the Clinton isn't a liberal comment.

Ummm... the Obamas are from Chicago. Have they even been to
Kennebunkport?
Probably not, neither had the Clintons until 2009.

Don't know or care about Fl politics, except when it comes to
national
elections.
Then why are you blathering on in this topic?
Despite your insistence that this "topic" is about Florida, it
isn't.
Can you read? The word Florida is in the topic title. You are
the one
who started talking about a dozen other states.
Life and reality are bigger than Florida. Please show me a topic
that
stayed put.
Just because you wander off, we don't have to follow you.
Yet, you're quite happy to participate. Don't want to talk about
Republicans being hypocrites... then don't.
In this case Scott is not hypocritical. He ran on not wanting the
money and when they tried to cram it down his throat he refused it and
went to court to get the feds to get off his back.

Scott is a criminal. He and his company were let off the hook during the
first couple of years of the Bush Admin. He should have been prosecuted.
His election is all the proof needed of the utter stupidity of florida
voters.

I am sure you voted for LBJ and Scott is a piker compared to that
crook.
Unfortunately when Jeb left, nobody who was really qualified was
willing to step up here. Sink was a bank lobbyist and I am not sure
that was the right choice either.


You're sure I voted for LBJ, eh?

In 1964, when Johnson ran for his own term, I was too young to vote in
the U.S. presidential election.

Had I been able to vote, I would have voted for Johnson. His opponent
then was Barry Goldwater. Back then, I would have considered Goldwater
too extreme to be president.

I got to know Goldwater pretty well in the late 1970's and 1960's when I
was a consultant to several of the national postal employee unions and
prepared testimony for presentation before a Senate committee on which
he served. He truly was a great man.

Nowadays, of course, he wouldn't have anything to do with the
race-hating, gay-bashing, white separatists who run the GOP.


Make that 1970's and 1980's...

It's snerk time in Florida...again.
 

On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 13:43:57 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 17:49:55 -0700, wrote:

Despite your insistence that this "topic" is about Florida, it isn't.

Can you read? The word Florida is in the topic title. You are the one
who started talking about a dozen other states.

Life and reality are bigger than Florida. Please show me a topic that
stayed put.


Just because you wander off, we don't have to follow you.

Yet, you're quite happy to participate. Don't want to talk about
Republicans being hypocrites... then don't.

In this case Scott is not hypocritical. He ran on not wanting the
money and when they tried to cram it down his throat he refused it and
went to court to get the feds to get off his back.

Ok. I can settle for him just having a criminal background. :)


OK so you agree the train thing does not have anything to do with your
hypocrisy rant and you want to change the subject

I agree that Scott is more of a criminal in this specific instance
than a hypocrite. :)

OK. I agree Scott is a crook That is why I didn't vote for him
Happy now.

Of course!

I still think he made the right choice on the train

So, the broken clock is accurate twice a day?

It's snerk time in Florida...again.
 

On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 13:46:32 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 21:15:12 -0400, Harryk
wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 13:14:36 -0700, wrote:

On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 16:01:10 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 11:10:29 -0700, wrote:

On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 01:45:29 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 21:09:57 -0700, wrote:

On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 21:00:26 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 14:46:10 -0700, wrote:

No I just don't like stupid ideas.
Yet every and any liberal originated idea is terrible. If not, please
point to a few that are ok with you.
Water quality, habitat preservation, decriminalizing "sin" to name a
few
Nixon got the EPA going, T. Roosevelt founded the national park
system, you're claiming that Democrats didn't promote the war on
drugs?
Clinton's dea put more pot "criminals" in jail than Nixon and Reagan
put together ... if that is what you are saying.
You claimed it was a liberal agenda to decriminalize "sin." I pointed
out and you confirmed that's not the case, particularly.

FYI, I happen to agree that things like the EPA, habitat preserv., and
decriminalizing sin are the right things to do. They're not, however,
the exclusive agenda of the right or the left.

I do not consider Clinton that "liberal". He was the 4th Bush brother
and he admits it. I expect to see the Bushes, Clintons and Obamas all
out in Kennebunkport on Fidelity, laughing their ass off some day.
Now that's funny! I'm betting that your right-wing buddies would
probably disagree with the Clinton isn't a liberal comment.

Ummm... the Obamas are from Chicago. Have they even been to
Kennebunkport?

Probably not, neither had the Clintons until 2009.

Don't know or care about Fl politics, except when it comes to national
elections.

Then why are you blathering on in this topic?
Despite your insistence that this "topic" is about Florida, it isn't.
Can you read? The word Florida is in the topic title. You are the one
who started talking about a dozen other states.
Life and reality are bigger than Florida. Please show me a topic that
stayed put.

Just because you wander off, we don't have to follow you.
Yet, you're quite happy to participate. Don't want to talk about
Republicans being hypocrites... then don't.

In this case Scott is not hypocritical. He ran on not wanting the
money and when they tried to cram it down his throat he refused it and
went to court to get the feds to get off his back.


Scott is a criminal. He and his company were let off the hook during the
first couple of years of the Bush Admin. He should have been prosecuted.
His election is all the proof needed of the utter stupidity of florida
voters.

I am sure you voted for LBJ and Scott is a piker compared to that
crook.
Unfortunately when Jeb left, nobody who was really qualified was
willing to step up here. Sink was a bank lobbyist and I am not sure
that was the right choice either.

Charlie Crist was pretty popular wasn't he? He seemed reasonable to
me, but I don't know much about him except that he agreed with Obama
from time to time, and that was his undoing to right-wing nut Rubio.

It's snerk time in Florida...again.
 

On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 17:15:55 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 13:03:02 -0700, wrote:

On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 13:43:57 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 17:49:55 -0700, wrote:

Despite your insistence that this "topic" is about Florida, it isn't.

Can you read? The word Florida is in the topic title. You are the one
who started talking about a dozen other states.

Life and reality are bigger than Florida. Please show me a topic that
stayed put.


Just because you wander off, we don't have to follow you.

Yet, you're quite happy to participate. Don't want to talk about
Republicans being hypocrites... then don't.

In this case Scott is not hypocritical. He ran on not wanting the
money and when they tried to cram it down his throat he refused it and
went to court to get the feds to get off his back.

Ok. I can settle for him just having a criminal background. :)


OK so you agree the train thing does not have anything to do with your
hypocrisy rant and you want to change the subject

I agree that Scott is more of a criminal in this specific instance
than a hypocrite. :)

OK. I agree Scott is a crook That is why I didn't vote for him
Happy now.

Of course!

I still think he made the right choice on the train

So, the broken clock is accurate twice a day?


... and if the topic was what time is it, at those two times it would
be relevant.

We were talking about the train and Scott made the right decision.

So, you're saying that Scott, a probable criminal and right wing
loony, was right about one thing? Ok.

It's snerk time in Florida...again.
 

On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 17:18:41 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 13:05:23 -0700, wrote:

On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 13:46:32 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 21:15:12 -0400, Harryk
wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 13:14:36 -0700, wrote:

On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 16:01:10 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 11:10:29 -0700, wrote:

On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 01:45:29 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 21:09:57 -0700, wrote:

On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 21:00:26 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 14:46:10 -0700, wrote:

No I just don't like stupid ideas.
Yet every and any liberal originated idea is terrible. If not, please
point to a few that are ok with you.
Water quality, habitat preservation, decriminalizing "sin" to name a
few
Nixon got the EPA going, T. Roosevelt founded the national park
system, you're claiming that Democrats didn't promote the war on
drugs?
Clinton's dea put more pot "criminals" in jail than Nixon and Reagan
put together ... if that is what you are saying.
You claimed it was a liberal agenda to decriminalize "sin." I pointed
out and you confirmed that's not the case, particularly.

FYI, I happen to agree that things like the EPA, habitat preserv., and
decriminalizing sin are the right things to do. They're not, however,
the exclusive agenda of the right or the left.

I do not consider Clinton that "liberal". He was the 4th Bush brother
and he admits it. I expect to see the Bushes, Clintons and Obamas all
out in Kennebunkport on Fidelity, laughing their ass off some day.
Now that's funny! I'm betting that your right-wing buddies would
probably disagree with the Clinton isn't a liberal comment.

Ummm... the Obamas are from Chicago. Have they even been to
Kennebunkport?

Probably not, neither had the Clintons until 2009.

Don't know or care about Fl politics, except when it comes to national
elections.

Then why are you blathering on in this topic?
Despite your insistence that this "topic" is about Florida, it isn't.
Can you read? The word Florida is in the topic title. You are the one
who started talking about a dozen other states.
Life and reality are bigger than Florida. Please show me a topic that
stayed put.

Just because you wander off, we don't have to follow you.
Yet, you're quite happy to participate. Don't want to talk about
Republicans being hypocrites... then don't.

In this case Scott is not hypocritical. He ran on not wanting the
money and when they tried to cram it down his throat he refused it and
went to court to get the feds to get off his back.


Scott is a criminal. He and his company were let off the hook during the
first couple of years of the Bush Admin. He should have been prosecuted.
His election is all the proof needed of the utter stupidity of florida
voters.

I am sure you voted for LBJ and Scott is a piker compared to that
crook.
Unfortunately when Jeb left, nobody who was really qualified was
willing to step up here. Sink was a bank lobbyist and I am not sure
that was the right choice either.

Charlie Crist was pretty popular wasn't he? He seemed reasonable to
me, but I don't know much about him except that he agreed with Obama
from time to time, and that was his undoing to right-wing nut Rubio.

Crist was not really much of a leader. He was just a go along to get
along guy, basically like your Gray Davis but our economy was strong
enough to keep him out of trouble.

Davis got a bum rap in my opinion. He was certainly no worse than the
guy who replaced him.

It's snerk time in Florida...again.
 

On 3/17/2011 6:22 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 17:15:55 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 13:03:02 -0700, wrote:

On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 13:43:57 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 17:49:55 -0700, wrote:

Despite your insistence that this "topic" is about Florida, it isn't.

Can you read? The word Florida is in the topic title. You are the one
who started talking about a dozen other states.

Life and reality are bigger than Florida. Please show me a topic that
stayed put.


Just because you wander off, we don't have to follow you.

Yet, you're quite happy to participate. Don't want to talk about
Republicans being hypocrites... then don't.

In this case Scott is not hypocritical. He ran on not wanting the
money and when they tried to cram it down his throat he refused it and
went to court to get the feds to get off his back.

Ok. I can settle for him just having a criminal background. :)


OK so you agree the train thing does not have anything to do with your
hypocrisy rant and you want to change the subject

I agree that Scott is more of a criminal in this specific instance
than a hypocrite. :)

OK. I agree Scott is a crook That is why I didn't vote for him
Happy now.

Of course!

I still think he made the right choice on the train

So, the broken clock is accurate twice a day?


... and if the topic was what time is it, at those two times it would
be relevant.

We were talking about the train and Scott made the right decision.

So, you're saying that Scott, a probable criminal and right wing
loony, was right about one thing? Ok.

GIVE US A BREAK. GO AWAY
BTW, OBAMA SAYS YOU DON'T NEED TO WORRY ABOUT THE RADIATION FALLOUT. DO
YOU BELIEVE HIM?

It's snerk time in Florida...again.
 

Harryk wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 21:15:12 -0400,
wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 13:14:36 -0700, wrote:

On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 16:01:10 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 11:10:29 -0700, wrote:

On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 01:45:29 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 21:09:57 -0700, wrote:

On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 21:00:26 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 14:46:10 -0700, wrote:

No I just don't like stupid ideas.
Yet every and any liberal originated idea is terrible. If
not, please
point to a few that are ok with you.
Water quality, habitat preservation, decriminalizing "sin" to
name a
few
Nixon got the EPA going, T. Roosevelt founded the national park
system, you're claiming that Democrats didn't promote the war on
drugs?
Clinton's dea put more pot "criminals" in jail than Nixon and
Reagan
put together ... if that is what you are saying.
You claimed it was a liberal agenda to decriminalize "sin." I
pointed
out and you confirmed that's not the case, particularly.

FYI, I happen to agree that things like the EPA, habitat
preserv., and
decriminalizing sin are the right things to do. They're not,
however,
the exclusive agenda of the right or the left.

I do not consider Clinton that "liberal". He was the 4th Bush
brother
and he admits it. I expect to see the Bushes, Clintons and Obamas
all
out in Kennebunkport on Fidelity, laughing their ass off some day.
Now that's funny! I'm betting that your right-wing buddies would
probably disagree with the Clinton isn't a liberal comment.

Ummm... the Obamas are from Chicago. Have they even been to
Kennebunkport?
Probably not, neither had the Clintons until 2009.

Don't know or care about Fl politics, except when it comes
to national
elections.
Then why are you blathering on in this topic?
Despite your insistence that this "topic" is about Florida, it
isn't.
Can you read? The word Florida is in the topic title. You are
the one
who started talking about a dozen other states.
Life and reality are bigger than Florida. Please show me a topic
that
stayed put.
Just because you wander off, we don't have to follow you.
Yet, you're quite happy to participate. Don't want to talk about
Republicans being hypocrites... then don't.
In this case Scott is not hypocritical. He ran on not wanting the
money and when they tried to cram it down his throat he refused it and
went to court to get the feds to get off his back.

Scott is a criminal. He and his company were let off the hook during
the
first couple of years of the Bush Admin. He should have been
prosecuted.
His election is all the proof needed of the utter stupidity of florida
voters.

I am sure you voted for LBJ and Scott is a piker compared to that
crook.
Unfortunately when Jeb left, nobody who was really qualified was
willing to step up here. Sink was a bank lobbyist and I am not sure
that was the right choice either.


You're sure I voted for LBJ, eh?

In 1964, when Johnson ran for his own term, I was too young to vote in
the U.S. presidential election.

Had I been able to vote, I would have voted for Johnson. His opponent
then was Barry Goldwater. Back then, I would have considered Goldwater
too extreme to be president.

I got to know Goldwater pretty well in the late 1970's and 1960's when
I was a consultant to several of the national postal employee unions
and prepared testimony for presentation before a Senate committee on
which he served. He truly was a great man.

Nowadays, of course, he wouldn't have anything to do with the
race-hating, gay-bashing, white separatists who run the GOP.
Bull****.

It's snerk time in Florida...again.
 

On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 18:42:37 -0400, Ernie wrote:

On 3/17/2011 6:22 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 17:15:55 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 13:03:02 -0700, wrote:

On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 13:43:57 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 17:49:55 -0700, wrote:

Despite your insistence that this "topic" is about Florida, it isn't.

Can you read? The word Florida is in the topic title. You are the one
who started talking about a dozen other states.

Life and reality are bigger than Florida. Please show me a topic that
stayed put.


Just because you wander off, we don't have to follow you.

Yet, you're quite happy to participate. Don't want to talk about
Republicans being hypocrites... then don't.

In this case Scott is not hypocritical. He ran on not wanting the
money and when they tried to cram it down his throat he refused it and
went to court to get the feds to get off his back.

Ok. I can settle for him just having a criminal background. :)


OK so you agree the train thing does not have anything to do with your
hypocrisy rant and you want to change the subject

I agree that Scott is more of a criminal in this specific instance
than a hypocrite. :)

OK. I agree Scott is a crook That is why I didn't vote for him
Happy now.

Of course!

I still think he made the right choice on the train

So, the broken clock is accurate twice a day?


... and if the topic was what time is it, at those two times it would
be relevant.

We were talking about the train and Scott made the right decision.

So, you're saying that Scott, a probable criminal and right wing
loony, was right about one thing? Ok.

GIVE US A BREAK. GO AWAY
BTW, OBAMA SAYS YOU DON'T NEED TO WORRY ABOUT THE RADIATION FALLOUT. DO
YOU BELIEVE HIM?

Give yourself a break. I'm not going anywhere. You're here with me.
I'm not here with you.

BTW, you're a moron/stalker. Bye bye...

It's snerk time in Florida...again.
 

On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 22:23:32 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 15:22:01 -0700, wrote:

On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 17:15:55 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 13:03:02 -0700, wrote:

On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 13:43:57 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 17:49:55 -0700, wrote:

Despite your insistence that this "topic" is about Florida, it isn't.

Can you read? The word Florida is in the topic title. You are the one
who started talking about a dozen other states.

Life and reality are bigger than Florida. Please show me a topic that
stayed put.


Just because you wander off, we don't have to follow you.

Yet, you're quite happy to participate. Don't want to talk about
Republicans being hypocrites... then don't.

In this case Scott is not hypocritical. He ran on not wanting the
money and when they tried to cram it down his throat he refused it and
went to court to get the feds to get off his back.

Ok. I can settle for him just having a criminal background. :)


OK so you agree the train thing does not have anything to do with your
hypocrisy rant and you want to change the subject

I agree that Scott is more of a criminal in this specific instance
than a hypocrite. :)

OK. I agree Scott is a crook That is why I didn't vote for him
Happy now.

Of course!

I still think he made the right choice on the train

So, the broken clock is accurate twice a day?


... and if the topic was what time is it, at those two times it would
be relevant.

We were talking about the train and Scott made the right decision.

So, you're saying that Scott, a probable criminal and right wing
loony, was right about one thing? Ok.


He is right about merit pay for teachers too so that is 2 things in a
couple months. If a politician gets one big thing right a month I will
be happy with them.

What does he say about merit pay? Seems like a good idea to me.

I just saw a tivo of 60 minutes...$125K for charter school teachers.
Apparently, it hasn't made a difference in kids' performance, at least
not so far.

It's snerk time in Florida...again.
 

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says...

On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 22:23:32 -0400, wrote:


He is right about merit pay for teachers too so that is 2 things in a
couple months. If a politician gets one big thing right a month I will
be happy with them.

What does he say about merit pay? Seems like a good idea to me.


http://www2.jcfloridan.com/news/2011...ion-merit-pay-
bill-mixed-ar-1594330/

"Fifty percent of a teacher's evaluation will depend on how much
progress their students have made on the Florida Comprehensive
Assessment Test or other exams over a three-year period."

What this means is good teachers at low-income student schools
will get screwed on pay.
So the low-income student schools will end up with the poorest teachers.
Real smart.


I just saw a tivo of 60 minutes...$125K for charter school teachers.
Apparently, it hasn't made a difference in kids' performance, at least
not so far.

Success of students to achieve their potential depends mostly on their
parents.
Initially charter schools get good performance because guess what?
Involved parents are required to get kids in charter schools.
Most have a waiting list for admission.
Who is most responsible for getting the kids on the list?
Involved parents. That's what gets successful education for kids.
This whole deal about charter schools is pretty much misguided except
it can allow some kids to get into a better environment for learning.
That's good.
Doesn't help those whose parents don't get them into a charter school.
And way too many won't make that effort.
It mostly comes down to parents, not teachers or schools.