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A problem with deep-sixing pirates....
On 3/1/2011 4:13 AM, TopBassDog wrote:
On Feb 28, 10:44 pm, wrote: On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 22:11:23 -0500, wrote: Bush screwed us. That doesn't need to be proved, since it's a fact. You're telling us that Bush stooped to low to screw you and JPS both? Truly the man was desperate. I don't think JPS was involved. It was a manage-a-trois among her, Jessica, and the other guy. And we thought Clinton chose the bottom of the barrel for his interludes. |
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On 2/28/2011
Iran). Em says Which has nothing to do with Somali pirates, who are mostly fishermen and criminals. OBL for all his faults is well educated. A wise man observes Smells like you'd like to crawl in his filthy sack with him I don't think Tosk is evil. I think he's a moron and an asshole/stalker. Don't blame me... you brought him up. And you are a retarded bitch, so what? (Krowse, butting his head in, deleted) I think Tosk pretty much summed up who he is with his one line response. An excellent judge of character seems to be who he is. |
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On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 08:52:06 -0500, I_am_Tosk
wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 08:26:27 -0500, I_am_Tosk wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 23:11:09 -0500, I_am_Tosk wrote: In article fcdaebbc-51ec-495e-af98-6905b1e75ce1 , says... On Feb 28, 9:32*pm, I_am_Tosk wrote: In article 264b75d3-377c-404f-ac36-ac4e7b398883@ 18g2000prd.googlegroups.com, says... On Feb 28, 9:11 pm, wrote: On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 18:17:13 -0800, wrote: What?? We're certainly not doing that in Afg. Bush is the one who wouldn't commit troops there when we could have caught him. I guess OBL wasn't that important... But, you want to commit 300K troops in Somalia. I never said I would put ONE ... Anybody want some popcorn? I don't know who is to blame for Egypt but Greg wants to shoot all the baby deer in the woods! *Oh, and he hates the number 4 too, just like all the other corporate clowns!! snerk And more popcorn;) Well, i dont' know about any of that, but this here slug-fest is getting interesting. One uses logic, and the other is a button pusher. me? I dont' know a good and fair answer, and at the moment I'm sitting sitting in the grand stand watching the show. I am just sitting here in shock. I made a mistake today that is gonna' have a huge effect on the race team this season. I broke an engine while prepping a bike for a guy who was gonna' buy it... I am such an idiot. I could use some popcorn, and a beer.. Well I have a beer here I think but yech, that doesn't sound good right now either. I am still in shock... That's some **** news. Now you'll have something to spend all that money on. What did you break in the engine? I somehow I dropped a screw down in the cylinder, found out as soon as it kicked over:( Hey, **** happens. We were going to use the cash to send the race bike to the builder for some extra "fun". It goes something like this.. Racer: How fast can you make it go? Engine Builder: As fast as you want, how much money do you want to spend? ... so, do we go fast, or get new uniforms this season? Guess I better get out the brush and the old pink motowash;), cause we do want it to go fast;) Just another setback, but "that's racin". We will be ready though, Jessi has been in the gym like a maniac over the winter and she is just about where we need to be mentally too... The racebike is just about ready for the builder, we are waiting for one part but it will be here in plenty of time. Anyway, wish us luck, this should be a transition year for us.. I can't imagine that, unless you had the head off. I broke a ring in my last Guzzi and had to replace piston, rings, cylinder, and the head. Did both sides. Parts cost right at $500, but that was in Germany and about 20 years ago. I learned a lot about motorcycle engines doing it. I was chasing a thread on the intake and in a hurry. After I ran a bolt through I somehow dropped it into the intake and I just don't know. I did have a chaser, and a small wrench in the hand as I turned away, and just never noticed the small "test" bolt was not there... I still can't believe it... Did it get into the cylinder, or caught by a valve? Did you start the engine after dropping the bolt? I guess you must've or the problem wouldn't be as big. |
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In article ,
says... On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 08:52:06 -0500, I_am_Tosk wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 08:26:27 -0500, I_am_Tosk wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 23:11:09 -0500, I_am_Tosk wrote: In article fcdaebbc-51ec-495e-af98-6905b1e75ce1 , says... On Feb 28, 9:32*pm, I_am_Tosk wrote: In article 264b75d3-377c-404f-ac36-ac4e7b398883@ 18g2000prd.googlegroups.com, says... On Feb 28, 9:11 pm, wrote: On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 18:17:13 -0800, wrote: What?? We're certainly not doing that in Afg. Bush is the one who wouldn't commit troops there when we could have caught him. I guess OBL wasn't that important... But, you want to commit 300K troops in Somalia. I never said I would put ONE ... Anybody want some popcorn? I don't know who is to blame for Egypt but Greg wants to shoot all the baby deer in the woods! *Oh, and he hates the number 4 too, just like all the other corporate clowns!! snerk And more popcorn;) Well, i dont' know about any of that, but this here slug-fest is getting interesting. One uses logic, and the other is a button pusher. me? I dont' know a good and fair answer, and at the moment I'm sitting sitting in the grand stand watching the show. I am just sitting here in shock. I made a mistake today that is gonna' have a huge effect on the race team this season. I broke an engine while prepping a bike for a guy who was gonna' buy it... I am such an idiot. I could use some popcorn, and a beer.. Well I have a beer here I think but yech, that doesn't sound good right now either. I am still in shock... That's some **** news. Now you'll have something to spend all that money on. What did you break in the engine? I somehow I dropped a screw down in the cylinder, found out as soon as it kicked over:( Hey, **** happens. We were going to use the cash to send the race bike to the builder for some extra "fun". It goes something like this.. Racer: How fast can you make it go? Engine Builder: As fast as you want, how much money do you want to spend? ... so, do we go fast, or get new uniforms this season? Guess I better get out the brush and the old pink motowash;), cause we do want it to go fast;) Just another setback, but "that's racin". We will be ready though, Jessi has been in the gym like a maniac over the winter and she is just about where we need to be mentally too... The racebike is just about ready for the builder, we are waiting for one part but it will be here in plenty of time. Anyway, wish us luck, this should be a transition year for us.. I can't imagine that, unless you had the head off. I broke a ring in my last Guzzi and had to replace piston, rings, cylinder, and the head. Did both sides. Parts cost right at $500, but that was in Germany and about 20 years ago. I learned a lot about motorcycle engines doing it. I was chasing a thread on the intake and in a hurry. After I ran a bolt through I somehow dropped it into the intake and I just don't know. I did have a chaser, and a small wrench in the hand as I turned away, and just never noticed the small "test" bolt was not there... I still can't believe it... Did it get into the cylinder, or caught by a valve? Did you start the engine after dropping the bolt? I guess you must've or the problem wouldn't be as big. I think it's jammed between the crank and the case. I "started" to start, but it only turned over a couple rpm's. It never got to speed so we might be ok. I am about done taking the engine out of the frame and I am gonna' pull the cylinder off, then my bud is gonna' come over and split the case for me and inspect for damage. Hoping for the best, but expecting the worst. Worst case scenario I have to part the bike out, but at the same time, I would make a lot more for it if I did. The front forks and shock alone are worth about 600, it has a Bills pipe (400), and a pro-circuit rear suspension setup that is nearly 400 new from the factory.. Then there is the frame, tripleclamps, engine parts, clutch baskets. Option 3 is to shelf it and spend a few hundred over the summer to put it together and ride it again. I do love the bike after all.... Either way, I am gonna' learn how to split a case tonight so all is not lost. This will save me hundreds of dollars later in our adventure! Not to mention a re-learned hard lesson on working on bikes and being in a hurry... |
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On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 08:52:06 -0500, I_am_Tosk
wrote: I was chasing a thread on the intake and in a hurry. After I ran a bolt through I somehow dropped it into the intake That's too bad, no doubt an expensive lesson there someplace. I hear stories about how the top notch racing team mechanics keep their work area scrupulously clean and well organized. We have several acquaintances that used to manage their own teams. Both of them claim to have had their engines torn down after every race, replaced critical components and inspected everything. I've also known several mechanics who work with a partner, someone who acts as a second pair of eyes and hands. |
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On 3/1/11 11:41 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 08:52:06 -0500, I_am_Tosk wrote: I was chasing a thread on the intake and in a hurry. After I ran a bolt through I somehow dropped it into the intake That's too bad, no doubt an expensive lesson there someplace. I hear stories about how the top notch racing team mechanics keep their work area scrupulously clean and well organized. We have several acquaintances that used to manage their own teams. Both of them claim to have had their engines torn down after every race, replaced critical components and inspected everything. I've also known several mechanics who work with a partner, someone who acts as a second pair of eyes and hands. Way back when, there was a boat dealer in New Haven, I don't remember the name of his business, but the dealer's name was Art Vreeland. His store was near the lighthouse in New Haven. Anyway, Art, a delightful guy and a friend of my dad's, was a first-rate mechanic, or so everyone said. I was too young to know. He sold Mercury outboards and Lyman runabouts. His shop was an absolute disaster. Every square inch of workbench space was covered with pieces, parts, tools, empty sodapop bottles, cigar butts, you name it, it was there. Yet, I remember my father saying that "Art could strip down one of those junky Mercs and rebuild it faster than anyone." At the time, my father was an Evinrude dealer and had a low opinion of Merc outboards. A decade later, he became a Merc dealer. I'll always remember my visits to Art's dealership. Art himself was a pretty colorful character, as were most of the dealers I met who got into the biz right after WW II. |
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@mypacks.net says... On 3/1/11 11:41 AM, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 08:52:06 -0500, I_am_Tosk wrote: I was chasing a thread on the intake and in a hurry. After I ran a bolt through I somehow dropped it into the intake That's too bad, no doubt an expensive lesson there someplace. I hear stories about how the top notch racing team mechanics keep their work area scrupulously clean and well organized. We have several acquaintances that used to manage their own teams. Both of them claim to have had their engines torn down after every race, replaced critical components and inspected everything. I've also known several mechanics who work with a partner, someone who acts as a second pair of eyes and hands. Way back when, there was a boat dealer in New Haven, I don't remember the name of his business, but the dealer's name was Art Vreeland. His store was near the lighthouse in New Haven. Anyway, Art, a delightful guy and a friend of my dad's, was a first-rate mechanic, or so everyone said. I was too young to know. He sold Mercury outboards and Lyman runabouts. His shop was an absolute disaster. Every square inch of workbench space was covered with pieces, parts, tools, empty sodapop bottles, cigar butts, you name it, it was there. Yet, I remember my father saying that "Art could strip down one of those junky Mercs and rebuild it faster than anyone." At the time, my father was an Evinrude dealer and had a low opinion of Merc outboards. A decade later, he became a Merc dealer. I'll always remember my visits to Art's dealership. Art himself was a pretty colorful character, as were most of the dealers I met who got into the biz right after WW II. More WAFA bull****. |
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On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 16:03:01 -0500, I_am_Tosk
wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 11:52:38 -0500, I_am_Tosk wrote: Especially when you consider the original mistake was forgetting that just because a plug comes new in a box, it's good.. Yep, could have avoided this if I had taken that into consideration.. A very costly mistake indeed... This is on topic so I split it out I trust a spark plug that has been running 1000 hours more than a new one, until I see it run. The only "testing" the manufacturers do these days is that it fits in the box. New defective parts are fairly rare and that just makes it harder when you are trying to fix something. In trouble shooting it is a good idea to back out new parts that didn't fix anything before you replace something else. Another lesson re-learned. I have the engine out and am about to take off the head. One of the officials from the league we race is going to have me over to split the cases in his shop. He says the only thing is we may have to make a splitter/puller for the crankcase. It's just a straight slotted bar with three tapped holes, just add bolts... It sounds pretty straight forward, and I have been going through the manual and the explosions, and I think I got it. I forgot to mention it's a two stroke so it's not as bad as it could have been... Of course I haven't seen the inside of the engine yet either:( Soooooo glad it wasn't the four stroke! The best of luck to you! |
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On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 15:24:35 -0500, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 20:44:46 -0800, wrote: It is one thing to put Delta teams on the ground, they are trained to move like that but putting regular troops on the ground and feeding them takes time. Your homework, how long did it take to get the troops in for most recent surge in Afghanistan and we were already there in force. (Hint: it was a number of months) What was the rush? We had intel about where he was. Bush left it to the war lords since there were no troops available. You are arguing with yourself now. "The rush" was to get him before he could move about 31 miles into Pakistan. How did that work out? Read up on what actually happened. Turns out, the Special Forces were told to stand down. Why? |
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On Mar 1, 7:26*am, I_am_Tosk wrote:
It goes something like this.. Racer: How fast can you make it go? Engine Builder: As fast as you want, how much money do you want to spend? The Wayne County Speed Shop used to have a sign above the counter that said: "SPEED COSTS MONEY- HOW FAST DO YOU WANT TO GO?" |
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In article 189172ee-5193-4bc5-a5a9-
, says... On Mar 1, 7:26*am, I_am_Tosk wrote: It goes something like this.. Racer: How fast can you make it go? Engine Builder: As fast as you want, how much money do you want to spend? The Wayne County Speed Shop used to have a sign above the counter that said: "SPEED COSTS MONEY- HOW FAST DO YOU WANT TO GO?" Yeah, and for the po' kids, it's speed takes work, how fast can you get to the gym? ;) |
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On Mar 1, 2:35*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 11:52:38 -0500, I_am_Tosk wrote: Especially when you consider the original mistake was forgetting that just because a plug comes new in a box, it's good.. Yep, could have avoided this if I had taken that into consideration.. A very costly mistake indeed... This is on topic so I split it out I trust a spark plug that has been running 1000 hours more than a new one, until I see it run. The only "testing" the manufacturers do these days is that it fits in the box. New defective parts are fairly rare and that just makes it harder when you are trying to fix something. In trouble shooting it is a good idea to back out new parts that didn't fix anything before you replace something else. Tell me about it. "It can't be bad... it's NEW!" wanna bet? If i could see inside the box and sort though and return all the defective parts I get, I'd be beyond a millionaire! |
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On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 22:57:31 -0500, wrote:
On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 16:35:23 -0800, wrote: On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 15:24:35 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 20:44:46 -0800, wrote: It is one thing to put Delta teams on the ground, they are trained to move like that but putting regular troops on the ground and feeding them takes time. Your homework, how long did it take to get the troops in for most recent surge in Afghanistan and we were already there in force. (Hint: it was a number of months) What was the rush? We had intel about where he was. Bush left it to the war lords since there were no troops available. You are arguing with yourself now. "The rush" was to get him before he could move about 31 miles into Pakistan. How did that work out? Read up on what actually happened. Turns out, the Special Forces were told to stand down. Why? Because we did not want to start a war with Pakistan? Because Rumsfeld failed as the Sec. of Def. This was in Afg. not Pak. I bet that sounded reasonable at the time. The real problem was the original plan counted on help from the locals and that worked fine until we got to a place where the locals liked Bin Laden better than they liked us. 50,000 troops and 10 years has not done much to control that area but you think Bush had a magic bullet in his gun he could have deployed in a week or two. If we had had the troops there, we wouldn't have needed the locals. |
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On 24/02/2011 5:38 PM, L G wrote:
I_am_Tosk wrote: In om, says... In article933d9a82-a0c4-4a54-9c0f-733d53524607 @m7g2000vbq.googlegroups.com, says... is that they are possible going to bring children (future buccaneers) with them as innocent human shields. Shag a couple boats loaded with the just and the unjust alike and sooner or later the world court[s] will hear about it and then condemnation will hit like the swarms of Egypt. Is a 14 year old holding an AK-47 on a pirate ship the same as a 14 year old holding a Glock at the gas station? It doesn't make any sense. We know the DOD monitors every inch of the gulf, they surely must know which mother ship a skiff came from. As to the "world courts", if you vaporize the mother ship and skiffs, there will be nothing left for court;) If Obama wanted to, he could stop this overnight... He could have closed Gitmo, too. Wasn't that his first promise? Closing Gitmo is far too small. Lefties have made the US government BROKE!!! Worse than GM even. Try 65% reduction in military expenditures, 1/2 of everything else. And they still might have to raise taxes. US government now debt spends more dollars than Americans consume in individual sheets of toilet paper! And until DC gets grip on reality, look for ongoing hyper inflation. -- Socialism is a great ideal as long as someone else pays for it. And when no one is left to pay for it, they all can share nothing. |
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On 26/02/2011 8:33 AM, BAR wrote:
In , says... To not see what is going on, is stupid on so many levels... These people tell you what they are doing and planning in their own words, and you are still in denial. Okay, so just when did Obama, "in his own words" say that he has "no interest in anything that would bring stability to that area of the world"? Just when did Obama say "in his own words" that "oil need to go to 200 a barrel so he can finish collapsing the economy"? And what proof do you have that he is "now paying thugs in Wisconsin, Ohio, and CT"? Actions, actions speak louder than words. I would not count on much from Obama, all mouth and no action. -- Socialism is a great ideal as long as someone else pays for it. And when no one is left to pay for it, they all can share nothing. |
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On 25/02/2011 1:06 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 09:05:12 -0500, wrote: "Califbill" wrote in message m... "L G" wrote in message ... I_am_Tosk wrote: In om, says... In article933d9a82-a0c4-4a54-9c0f-733d53524607 @m7g2000vbq.googlegroups.com, says... is that they are possible going to bring children (future buccaneers) with them as innocent human shields. Shag a couple boats loaded with the just and the unjust alike and sooner or later the world court[s] will hear about it and then condemnation will hit like the swarms of Egypt. Is a 14 year old holding an AK-47 on a pirate ship the same as a 14 year old holding a Glock at the gas station? It doesn't make any sense. We know the DOD monitors every inch of the gulf, they surely must know which mother ship a skiff came from. As to the "world courts", if you vaporize the mother ship and skiffs, there will be nothing left for court;) If Obama wanted to, he could stop this overnight... He could have closed Gitmo, too. Wasn't that his first promise? Reply: Close Gitmo, transparency of government. Neither are happening. Publish on the web White House visitors list. He would not even reveal the coal industry lobbyists under a FOI act suit. ========== He may not look like the other lying politicians that have been in that chair but his actions are the same. Total bs. Bush lied to the American people for 8+ years. Obama is at least trying to do what's best for the country. Not like Obama. Obama is now the worlds biggest debtor. Biggest liar. Destroying America from the inside. Obama should clearly step down. -- Socialism is a great ideal as long as someone else pays for it. And when no one is left to pay for it, they all can share nothing. |
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On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 00:49:55 -0500, wrote:
On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 21:28:17 -0800, wrote: On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 22:57:31 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 16:35:23 -0800, wrote: On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 15:24:35 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 20:44:46 -0800, wrote: It is one thing to put Delta teams on the ground, they are trained to move like that but putting regular troops on the ground and feeding them takes time. Your homework, how long did it take to get the troops in for most recent surge in Afghanistan and we were already there in force. (Hint: it was a number of months) What was the rush? We had intel about where he was. Bush left it to the war lords since there were no troops available. You are arguing with yourself now. "The rush" was to get him before he could move about 31 miles into Pakistan. How did that work out? Read up on what actually happened. Turns out, the Special Forces were told to stand down. Why? Because we did not want to start a war with Pakistan? Because Rumsfeld failed as the Sec. of Def. This was in Afg. not Pak. It was 31 miles from Pakistan and we are not sure Bin L:aden was actually in Tora Bora. He may have already slipped away. Actually, we are. He was sighted by one of the US troops on the ground.. I believe I saw an interview with the guy on 60 minutes (or similar). I bet that sounded reasonable at the time. The real problem was the original plan counted on help from the locals and that worked fine until we got to a place where the locals liked Bin Laden better than they liked us. 50,000 troops and 10 years has not done much to control that area but you think Bush had a magic bullet in his gun he could have deployed in a week or two. If we had had the troops there, we wouldn't have needed the locals. There was no way to get that many troops there in the time we had, that was why we used locals. It was working until we ran out of friendly locals. Yes, there was. If we had started the deployment with more, we would have had more. In time for what? There was a big delay anyway. |
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On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 14:15:04 -0500, wrote:
On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 10:15:58 -0800, wrote: It was 31 miles from Pakistan and we are not sure Bin L:aden was actually in Tora Bora. He may have already slipped away. Actually, we are. He was sighted by one of the US troops on the ground.. I believe I saw an interview with the guy on 60 minutes (or similar). They saw someone they identified as Bin Laden before the attack, but we are not sure how fast he got out. Fast enough I guess. It certainly takes longer to fly from the US to Afghanistan than it takes for a motivated squad to hump 31 miles, even those troops were sitting on the tarmac with the engines warmed up. Yet, if we had the troops there in the country, they wouldn't have had to fly from the US. I bet that sounded reasonable at the time. The real problem was the original plan counted on help from the locals and that worked fine until we got to a place where the locals liked Bin Laden better than they liked us. 50,000 troops and 10 years has not done much to control that area but you think Bush had a magic bullet in his gun he could have deployed in a week or two. If we had had the troops there, we wouldn't have needed the locals. There was no way to get that many troops there in the time we had, that was why we used locals. It was working until we ran out of friendly locals. Yes, there was. If we had started the deployment with more, we would have had more. In time for what? There was a big delay anyway. We were trying to do this without an invasion of Afghanistan. Time has shown the original plan was the better option. There has been very little to show for a 10 year war there. ?? WHAT? Rumsfeld was advised about how many it would take to do the job. He IGNORED the advice. He decided that he wanted a small military, and he got it. Yes we should have "let him go" after Tora Bora. He would have popped up somewhere and we could have had another shot at him. We just drove him deeper under cover. ?? We DID let him go. Rumsfeld blew it. |
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On 24/02/2011 6:26 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 12:07:19 -0700, wrote: On 23/02/2011 11:26 PM, wrote: On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 21:31:55 -0800 (PST), wrote: The best way to do this would be totally black. Never admit we did anything. Let the pirates think Allah blew up their boat. There is no reason they ever have to see the drone that tracked them or the drone that fired the Hellfire missile Drones might be good to spot, but an Apache 30mm rounds might be cheaper than missiles. If you are involving a pilot, an A10 is probably a better choice. Same gun but you also have the capability for a lot of wing mounted ordinance and you have a lot of range. They can also operate out of primitive air fields like you might have in Africa or south Asia. We have a buttload of them sitting out in the desert. I believe they can do a carrier too. They can all practice together. Move the practice to the coast of Somalia. Minimizes costs and maximizes the efforts. It does violate the rule of big government though. That is, find new more creative ways to waste taxpayers dollars so to ask for more. -- Socialism is a great ideal as long as someone else pays for it. And when no one is left to pay for it, they all can share nothing. |
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