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On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 01:03:17 -0500, wrote:
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 17:30:28 -0800, wrote: It's a military prison is it not? You claiming that all those patriots in such a place would try and kill him? Do you really believe that he's got to be confined 23.5 hours per day and have the lights left on 24/7 in order for him to be safe? That is pretty much SOP in a supermax He's not a danger to himself or others. He's not a violent criminal. Assuming he broke the law, which hasn't yet been decided by a court, he deserves to be treated humanely. That doesn't seem to be happening. |
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On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 21:40:55 -0500, wrote:
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:30:46 -0800, wrote: On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 13:22:05 -0500, wrote: That is an internal problem in the US that should be addressed. Maybe when that Manning kid gets 20 years in Leavenworth people will start respecting the security clearances they have. The "good democrat" president, FDR, would have had Manning shot by now Those were different times and the circumstances are totally different. That said, I do think he should go to prison for a long time. He broke the law. I don't think he should be isolated and perhaps psychologically tortured, which is what seems to be happening If the stuck him in a marine "red line" brig like Portsmouth he would long for the peace and quiet of his little cell. I do think they should have charged him with something by now. They can charge him with a UCMJ violation (like an article 134) that would not prevent further federal charges and they would have a legal reason to keep him locked up until Holder figures out what he is going to do. The fact still remains, military justice is not civilian justice and lots of things you think of as rights do not exist. That is something they tell you on day one of boot camp. This is still an improvement over the old "articles of war" the military used to abide by. Which has nothing to do with how he's being treated. |
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says... On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 09:05:12 -0500, "MMC" wrote: "Califbill" wrote in message om... "L G" wrote in message m... I_am_Tosk wrote: In om, says... In article933d9a82-a0c4-4a54-9c0f-733d53524607 @m7g2000vbq.googlegroups.com, says... is that they are possible going to bring children (future buccaneers) with them as innocent human shields. Shag a couple boats loaded with the just and the unjust alike and sooner or later the world court[s] will hear about it and then condemnation will hit like the swarms of Egypt. Is a 14 year old holding an AK-47 on a pirate ship the same as a 14 year old holding a Glock at the gas station? It doesn't make any sense. We know the DOD monitors every inch of the gulf, they surely must know which mother ship a skiff came from. As to the "world courts", if you vaporize the mother ship and skiffs, there will be nothing left for court;) If Obama wanted to, he could stop this overnight... He could have closed Gitmo, too. Wasn't that his first promise? Reply: Close Gitmo, transparency of government. Neither are happening. Publish on the web White House visitors list. He would not even reveal the coal industry lobbyists under a FOI act suit. ========== He may not look like the other lying politicians that have been in that chair but his actions are the same. Total bs. Bush lied to the American people for 8+ years. Obama is at least trying to do what's best for the country. Yeah, pushing revolution in the East, shutting down oil production, deflating the dollar, running up the debt beyond recovery, sending bus loads of mobs to private citizens homes and businesses to intimidate them, yeah, a real hero.. snerk |
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On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 02:18:55 -0500, wrote:
On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 12:01:38 -0800, wrote: I think we are only going to put a halt to the piracy when we sacrifice a few hundred hostages held in Somalia and drop some huge conventional bombs on the home areas of the pirates. Let god sort out who gets to go to heaven and who goes elsewhere. Make the penalty huge for piracy. We will not do it because of the collateral damage but that is probably one of the only ways to stop the pirates. Most of the ones we kill are minor players. Not the chiefs who are taking 80% of the ransom. Or figure out who the chiefs are and destroy there home area. So, it's ok to kill a bunch of innocent civilians? I guess there's no reason to believe that most of these pirates are just acting out of economic reality. The ultimate solution is a better economy in the region. $100m ransoms are not basic subsistence in a country where the average annual income is about the price on an I phone. Some day we will be asking "where is the money going"? ...OR ... ... We may be standing over another smoking hole in the ground and know where some of it went. Huh? Your solution is to bomb Somalia? |
A problem with deep-sixing pirates....
$100m ransoms are not basic subsistence in a country where the average annual income is about the price on an I phone. Some day we will be asking "where is the money going"? ...OR ... ... We may be standing over another smoking hole in the ground and know where some of it went. Huh? Your solution is to bomb Somalia? You don't think that would work? Do tell. We're all ears. |
A problem with deep-sixing pirates....
On 2/26/11 12:38 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 02:18:55 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 12:01:38 -0800, wrote: I think we are only going to put a halt to the piracy when we sacrifice a few hundred hostages held in Somalia and drop some huge conventional bombs on the home areas of the pirates. Let god sort out who gets to go to heaven and who goes elsewhere. Make the penalty huge for piracy. We will not do it because of the collateral damage but that is probably one of the only ways to stop the pirates. Most of the ones we kill are minor players. Not the chiefs who are taking 80% of the ransom. Or figure out who the chiefs are and destroy there home area. So, it's ok to kill a bunch of innocent civilians? I guess there's no reason to believe that most of these pirates are just acting out of economic reality. The ultimate solution is a better economy in the region. $100m ransoms are not basic subsistence in a country where the average annual income is about the price on an I phone. Some day we will be asking "where is the money going"? ...OR ... ... We may be standing over another smoking hole in the ground and know where some of it went. Huh? Your solution is to bomb Somalia? Well, we do have those thousands of nukes stockpiled, and no Soviet Union on which to drop them... :) |
A problem with deep-sixing pirates....
Huh? Your solution is to bomb Somalia? Well, we do have those thousands of nukes stockpiled, and no Soviet Union on which to drop them... :) Waste not want not. Eh? |
A problem with deep-sixing pirates....
On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 12:43:28 -0500, Harryk
wrote: On 2/26/11 12:38 PM, wrote: On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 02:18:55 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 12:01:38 -0800, wrote: I think we are only going to put a halt to the piracy when we sacrifice a few hundred hostages held in Somalia and drop some huge conventional bombs on the home areas of the pirates. Let god sort out who gets to go to heaven and who goes elsewhere. Make the penalty huge for piracy. We will not do it because of the collateral damage but that is probably one of the only ways to stop the pirates. Most of the ones we kill are minor players. Not the chiefs who are taking 80% of the ransom. Or figure out who the chiefs are and destroy there home area. So, it's ok to kill a bunch of innocent civilians? I guess there's no reason to believe that most of these pirates are just acting out of economic reality. The ultimate solution is a better economy in the region. $100m ransoms are not basic subsistence in a country where the average annual income is about the price on an I phone. Some day we will be asking "where is the money going"? ...OR ... ... We may be standing over another smoking hole in the ground and know where some of it went. Huh? Your solution is to bomb Somalia? Well, we do have those thousands of nukes stockpiled, and no Soviet Union on which to drop them... :) Sick, sick! :) |
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says... On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 09:38:08 -0800, wrote: On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 02:18:55 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 12:01:38 -0800, wrote: I think we are only going to put a halt to the piracy when we sacrifice a few hundred hostages held in Somalia and drop some huge conventional bombs on the home areas of the pirates. Let god sort out who gets to go to heaven and who goes elsewhere. Make the penalty huge for piracy. We will not do it because of the collateral damage but that is probably one of the only ways to stop the pirates. Most of the ones we kill are minor players. Not the chiefs who are taking 80% of the ransom. Or figure out who the chiefs are and destroy there home area. So, it's ok to kill a bunch of innocent civilians? I guess there's no reason to believe that most of these pirates are just acting out of economic reality. The ultimate solution is a better economy in the region. $100m ransoms are not basic subsistence in a country where the average annual income is about the price on an I phone. Some day we will be asking "where is the money going"? ...OR ... ... We may be standing over another smoking hole in the ground and know where some of it went. Huh? Your solution is to bomb Somalia? Try to keep up, I am the guy who wants to profile the mother ships and sink them. I still think this is a lot more serious than a few people being killed or kidnapped. Have we ever really figured out who is getting this money and what they are doing with it? They are certainly not ****ing it away on hookers and beer. Exactly, that's not "Somali" money, that's AlQueda money. There isn't enough to buy in Somalia for them to ask for that much... |
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On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 20:09:03 -0500, wrote:
On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 09:38:08 -0800, wrote: On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 02:18:55 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 12:01:38 -0800, wrote: I think we are only going to put a halt to the piracy when we sacrifice a few hundred hostages held in Somalia and drop some huge conventional bombs on the home areas of the pirates. Let god sort out who gets to go to heaven and who goes elsewhere. Make the penalty huge for piracy. We will not do it because of the collateral damage but that is probably one of the only ways to stop the pirates. Most of the ones we kill are minor players. Not the chiefs who are taking 80% of the ransom. Or figure out who the chiefs are and destroy there home area. So, it's ok to kill a bunch of innocent civilians? I guess there's no reason to believe that most of these pirates are just acting out of economic reality. The ultimate solution is a better economy in the region. $100m ransoms are not basic subsistence in a country where the average annual income is about the price on an I phone. Some day we will be asking "where is the money going"? ...OR ... ... We may be standing over another smoking hole in the ground and know where some of it went. Huh? Your solution is to bomb Somalia? Try to keep up, I am the guy who wants to profile the mother ships and sink them. I didn't realize that blowing up a mother ship would create a smoking hole in the ground. Perhaps you can clarify. I still think this is a lot more serious than a few people being killed or kidnapped. Have we ever really figured out who is getting this money and what they are doing with it? They are certainly not ****ing it away on hookers and beer. http://publicintelligence.net/money-...good-business/ |
A problem with deep-sixing pirates....
On Feb 26, 8:38*pm, wrote:
On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 20:09:03 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 09:38:08 -0800, wrote: On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 02:18:55 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 12:01:38 -0800, wrote: I think we are only going to put a halt to the piracy when we sacrifice a few hundred hostages held in Somalia and drop some huge conventional bombs on the home areas of the pirates. *Let god sort out who gets to go to heaven and who goes elsewhere. *Make the penalty huge for piracy. *We will not do it because of the collateral damage but that is probably one of the only ways to stop the pirates. *Most of the ones we kill are minor players. *Not the chiefs who are taking 80% of the ransom. *Or figure out who the chiefs are and destroy there home area. So, it's ok to kill a bunch of innocent civilians? I guess there's no reason to believe that most of these pirates are just acting out of economic reality. The ultimate solution is a better economy in the region. $100m ransoms are not basic subsistence in a country where the average annual income is about the price on an I phone. Some day we will be asking "where is the money going"? ...OR ... ... We may be standing over another smoking hole in the ground and know where some of it went. Huh? Your solution is to bomb Somalia? Try to keep up, I am the guy who wants to profile the mother ships and sink them. I didn't realize that blowing up a mother ship would create a smoking hole in the ground. Perhaps you can clarify. I still think this is a lot more serious than a few people being killed or kidnapped. Have we ever really figured out who is getting this money and what they are doing with it? They are certainly not ****ing it away on hookers and beer. http://publicintelligence.net/money-...li-pirates-is-... Blowing up a mother ship would not create a "smoking hole in the ground" D'Plume. It is a ship. If anything, the vessel would become a smoking hull on the water. And thank you for providing a link to someone's opinion. |
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On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 23:46:53 -0500, wrote:
On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 18:38:47 -0800, wrote: On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 20:09:03 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 09:38:08 -0800, wrote: On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 02:18:55 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 12:01:38 -0800, wrote: I think we are only going to put a halt to the piracy when we sacrifice a few hundred hostages held in Somalia and drop some huge conventional bombs on the home areas of the pirates. Let god sort out who gets to go to heaven and who goes elsewhere. Make the penalty huge for piracy. We will not do it because of the collateral damage but that is probably one of the only ways to stop the pirates. Most of the ones we kill are minor players. Not the chiefs who are taking 80% of the ransom. Or figure out who the chiefs are and destroy there home area. So, it's ok to kill a bunch of innocent civilians? I guess there's no reason to believe that most of these pirates are just acting out of economic reality. The ultimate solution is a better economy in the region. $100m ransoms are not basic subsistence in a country where the average annual income is about the price on an I phone. Some day we will be asking "where is the money going"? ...OR ... ... We may be standing over another smoking hole in the ground and know where some of it went. Huh? Your solution is to bomb Somalia? Try to keep up, I am the guy who wants to profile the mother ships and sink them. I didn't realize that blowing up a mother ship would create a smoking hole in the ground. Perhaps you can clarify. I still think this is a lot more serious than a few people being killed or kidnapped. Have we ever really figured out who is getting this money and what they are doing with it? They are certainly not ****ing it away on hookers and beer. http://publicintelligence.net/money-...good-business/ The total cost of 9-11 was estimated to be less than $500,000 and you are not concerned about $100 million dollar ransoms in a place where Al Qaeda is one of the most powerful forces. That can easily lead to another big smoking hole in the downtown of some big city.. The total cost of 9/11 is about $2 TRILLION AND CLIMBING. Bush ignored warnings that it was going to happen, then invaded a country that had nothing to do with it. I guess when you get a memo that says OBL determined to attack the US, it's ok to file it in the round file. You have demonstrated how easy it is to launder money and you know there are 100 guys as smart as bin laden, just not as rich. Now they are rich. This piracy is a clear and present danger to the US, certainly more than some broke assed Taliban guys running around Kanahar. Sounds like revisionist history to me. Maybe NOW the Taliban aren't rich (OBL certainly still is) and they aren't attacking the US sans a few people who were warned about going there (kind of reminds me of those hikers who got arrested by Iran). |
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On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 13:32:54 -0500, wrote:
On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 09:51:28 -0800, wrote: On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 23:46:53 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 18:38:47 -0800, wrote: On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 20:09:03 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 09:38:08 -0800, wrote: On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 02:18:55 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 12:01:38 -0800, wrote: I think we are only going to put a halt to the piracy when we sacrifice a few hundred hostages held in Somalia and drop some huge conventional bombs on the home areas of the pirates. Let god sort out who gets to go to heaven and who goes elsewhere. Make the penalty huge for piracy. We will not do it because of the collateral damage but that is probably one of the only ways to stop the pirates. Most of the ones we kill are minor players. Not the chiefs who are taking 80% of the ransom. Or figure out who the chiefs are and destroy there home area. So, it's ok to kill a bunch of innocent civilians? I guess there's no reason to believe that most of these pirates are just acting out of economic reality. The ultimate solution is a better economy in the region. $100m ransoms are not basic subsistence in a country where the average annual income is about the price on an I phone. Some day we will be asking "where is the money going"? ...OR ... ... We may be standing over another smoking hole in the ground and know where some of it went. Huh? Your solution is to bomb Somalia? Try to keep up, I am the guy who wants to profile the mother ships and sink them. I didn't realize that blowing up a mother ship would create a smoking hole in the ground. Perhaps you can clarify. I still think this is a lot more serious than a few people being killed or kidnapped. Have we ever really figured out who is getting this money and what they are doing with it? They are certainly not ****ing it away on hookers and beer. http://publicintelligence.net/money-...good-business/ The total cost of 9-11 was estimated to be less than $500,000 and you are not concerned about $100 million dollar ransoms in a place where Al Qaeda is one of the most powerful forces. That can easily lead to another big smoking hole in the downtown of some big city.. The total cost of 9/11 is about $2 TRILLION AND CLIMBING. Bush ignored warnings that it was going to happen, then invaded a country that had nothing to do with it. I guess when you get a memo that says OBL determined to attack the US, it's ok to file it in the round file. Another non-responsive answer. My error... you were talking about the cost of 9/11 to the terrorists. Sorry. OBL had/has $100M to play with. Yet, the Somali pirates are not terrorists. They're criminals. Since they're the ones who are getting the money, an attack on the US from them is pretty unlikely. I know you'd like to make the case that there is some equivalency between the two, but there isn't. Bush tried that, unfortunately successfully. We were talking about where the NEXT attack may come from and where the money to finance is coming from. While Al Qaeda is amassing millions in Somalia, we are still attacking goat herders in Pakistan and Afghanistan who don't have 2 nickels to rub together. OBL was just the money, not the brains. You have demonstrated how easy it is to launder money and you know there are 100 guys as smart as bin laden, just not as rich. Now they are rich. This piracy is a clear and present danger to the US, certainly more than some broke assed Taliban guys running around Kanahar. Sounds like revisionist history to me. Maybe NOW the Taliban aren't rich (OBL certainly still is) and they aren't attacking the US sans a few people who were warned about going there (kind of reminds me of those hikers who got arrested by Iran). OBL is very well cut off from his money ... if he still has any. We have been targeting his finances for a decade. Which has nothing to do with Somali pirates, who are mostly fishermen and criminals. OBL for all his faults is well educated. |
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On 2/27/11 2:51 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 13:32:54 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 09:51:28 -0800, wrote: On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 23:46:53 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 18:38:47 -0800, wrote: On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 20:09:03 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 09:38:08 -0800, wrote: On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 02:18:55 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 12:01:38 -0800, wrote: I think we are only going to put a halt to the piracy when we sacrifice a few hundred hostages held in Somalia and drop some huge conventional bombs on the home areas of the pirates. Let god sort out who gets to go to heaven and who goes elsewhere. Make the penalty huge for piracy. We will not do it because of the collateral damage but that is probably one of the only ways to stop the pirates. Most of the ones we kill are minor players. Not the chiefs who are taking 80% of the ransom. Or figure out who the chiefs are and destroy there home area. So, it's ok to kill a bunch of innocent civilians? I guess there's no reason to believe that most of these pirates are just acting out of economic reality. The ultimate solution is a better economy in the region. $100m ransoms are not basic subsistence in a country where the average annual income is about the price on an I phone. Some day we will be asking "where is the money going"? ...OR ... ... We may be standing over another smoking hole in the ground and know where some of it went. Huh? Your solution is to bomb Somalia? Try to keep up, I am the guy who wants to profile the mother ships and sink them. I didn't realize that blowing up a mother ship would create a smoking hole in the ground. Perhaps you can clarify. I still think this is a lot more serious than a few people being killed or kidnapped. Have we ever really figured out who is getting this money and what they are doing with it? They are certainly not ****ing it away on hookers and beer. http://publicintelligence.net/money-...good-business/ The total cost of 9-11 was estimated to be less than $500,000 and you are not concerned about $100 million dollar ransoms in a place where Al Qaeda is one of the most powerful forces. That can easily lead to another big smoking hole in the downtown of some big city.. The total cost of 9/11 is about $2 TRILLION AND CLIMBING. Bush ignored warnings that it was going to happen, then invaded a country that had nothing to do with it. I guess when you get a memo that says OBL determined to attack the US, it's ok to file it in the round file. Another non-responsive answer. My error... you were talking about the cost of 9/11 to the terrorists. Sorry. OBL had/has $100M to play with. Yet, the Somali pirates are not terrorists. They're criminals. Since they're the ones who are getting the money, an attack on the US from them is pretty unlikely. I know you'd like to make the case that there is some equivalency between the two, but there isn't. Bush tried that, unfortunately successfully. We were talking about where the NEXT attack may come from and where the money to finance is coming from. While Al Qaeda is amassing millions in Somalia, we are still attacking goat herders in Pakistan and Afghanistan who don't have 2 nickels to rub together. OBL was just the money, not the brains. You have demonstrated how easy it is to launder money and you know there are 100 guys as smart as bin laden, just not as rich. Now they are rich. This piracy is a clear and present danger to the US, certainly more than some broke assed Taliban guys running around Kanahar. Sounds like revisionist history to me. Maybe NOW the Taliban aren't rich (OBL certainly still is) and they aren't attacking the US sans a few people who were warned about going there (kind of reminds me of those hikers who got arrested by Iran). OBL is very well cut off from his money ... if he still has any. We have been targeting his finances for a decade. Which has nothing to do with Somali pirates, who are mostly fishermen and criminals. OBL for all his faults is well educated. I wonder if the pirates are incorporated in Delaware with officers and a board of directors. They certainly emulate land-based multinational corporations in many ways. |
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On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 14:55:24 -0500, Harryk
wrote: On 2/27/11 2:51 PM, wrote: On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 13:32:54 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 09:51:28 -0800, wrote: On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 23:46:53 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 18:38:47 -0800, wrote: On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 20:09:03 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 09:38:08 -0800, wrote: On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 02:18:55 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 12:01:38 -0800, wrote: I think we are only going to put a halt to the piracy when we sacrifice a few hundred hostages held in Somalia and drop some huge conventional bombs on the home areas of the pirates. Let god sort out who gets to go to heaven and who goes elsewhere. Make the penalty huge for piracy. We will not do it because of the collateral damage but that is probably one of the only ways to stop the pirates. Most of the ones we kill are minor players. Not the chiefs who are taking 80% of the ransom. Or figure out who the chiefs are and destroy there home area. So, it's ok to kill a bunch of innocent civilians? I guess there's no reason to believe that most of these pirates are just acting out of economic reality. The ultimate solution is a better economy in the region. $100m ransoms are not basic subsistence in a country where the average annual income is about the price on an I phone. Some day we will be asking "where is the money going"? ...OR ... ... We may be standing over another smoking hole in the ground and know where some of it went. Huh? Your solution is to bomb Somalia? Try to keep up, I am the guy who wants to profile the mother ships and sink them. I didn't realize that blowing up a mother ship would create a smoking hole in the ground. Perhaps you can clarify. I still think this is a lot more serious than a few people being killed or kidnapped. Have we ever really figured out who is getting this money and what they are doing with it? They are certainly not ****ing it away on hookers and beer. http://publicintelligence.net/money-...good-business/ The total cost of 9-11 was estimated to be less than $500,000 and you are not concerned about $100 million dollar ransoms in a place where Al Qaeda is one of the most powerful forces. That can easily lead to another big smoking hole in the downtown of some big city.. The total cost of 9/11 is about $2 TRILLION AND CLIMBING. Bush ignored warnings that it was going to happen, then invaded a country that had nothing to do with it. I guess when you get a memo that says OBL determined to attack the US, it's ok to file it in the round file. Another non-responsive answer. My error... you were talking about the cost of 9/11 to the terrorists. Sorry. OBL had/has $100M to play with. Yet, the Somali pirates are not terrorists. They're criminals. Since they're the ones who are getting the money, an attack on the US from them is pretty unlikely. I know you'd like to make the case that there is some equivalency between the two, but there isn't. Bush tried that, unfortunately successfully. We were talking about where the NEXT attack may come from and where the money to finance is coming from. While Al Qaeda is amassing millions in Somalia, we are still attacking goat herders in Pakistan and Afghanistan who don't have 2 nickels to rub together. OBL was just the money, not the brains. You have demonstrated how easy it is to launder money and you know there are 100 guys as smart as bin laden, just not as rich. Now they are rich. This piracy is a clear and present danger to the US, certainly more than some broke assed Taliban guys running around Kanahar. Sounds like revisionist history to me. Maybe NOW the Taliban aren't rich (OBL certainly still is) and they aren't attacking the US sans a few people who were warned about going there (kind of reminds me of those hikers who got arrested by Iran). OBL is very well cut off from his money ... if he still has any. We have been targeting his finances for a decade. Which has nothing to do with Somali pirates, who are mostly fishermen and criminals. OBL for all his faults is well educated. I wonder if the pirates are incorporated in Delaware with officers and a board of directors. They certainly emulate land-based multinational corporations in many ways. They're certainly closer to the pirates of Wall Street than they are to OBL. |
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@mypacks.net says... OBL is very well cut off from his money ... if he still has any. We have been targeting his finances for a decade. Which has nothing to do with Somali pirates, who are mostly fishermen and criminals. OBL for all his faults is well educated. I wonder if the pirates are incorporated in Delaware with officers and a board of directors. They certainly emulate land-based multinational corporations in many ways. The union's pension funds are invested in OBL international. |
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On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 01:38:24 -0500, wrote:
On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 11:51:00 -0800, wrote: On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 13:32:54 -0500, wrote: The total cost of 9/11 is about $2 TRILLION AND CLIMBING. Bush ignored warnings that it was going to happen, then invaded a country that had nothing to do with it. I guess when you get a memo that says OBL determined to attack the US, it's ok to file it in the round file. Another non-responsive answer. My error... you were talking about the cost of 9/11 to the terrorists. Sorry. OBL had/has $100M to play with. Yet, the Somali pirates are not terrorists. They're criminals. Since they're the ones who are getting the money, an attack on the US from them is pretty unlikely. I know you'd like to make the case that there is some equivalency between the two, but there isn't. Bush tried that, unfortunately successfully. "Gad" is the operative word. Our government thinks they have sequestered/confiscated his money and there really are not that many ATMs in the mountains of Pakistan anyway. We don't have a clue who the Somali pirates are or who is behind them. There is plenty of Al Qaeda activity in Somalia and is unreasonable to think they don't have an eye on that money. You admitted Somalia could be a problem about a month ago and said we should invade them too if we could prove it. I never said that. Prove it. Most of the people who are profiting are war lords and have no great interest in attacking the US. That's just nonsense. Personally I think it is better to just cut off the money. How? Who should we starve this time? We were talking about where the NEXT attack may come from and where the money to finance is coming from. While Al Qaeda is amassing millions in Somalia, we are still attacking goat herders in Pakistan and Afghanistan who don't have 2 nickels to rub together. OBL was just the money, not the brains. You have demonstrated how easy it is to launder money and you know there are 100 guys as smart as bin laden, just not as rich. Now they are rich. This piracy is a clear and present danger to the US, certainly more than some broke assed Taliban guys running around Kanahar. Sounds like revisionist history to me. Maybe NOW the Taliban aren't rich (OBL certainly still is) and they aren't attacking the US sans a few people who were warned about going there (kind of reminds me of those hikers who got arrested by Iran). OBL is very well cut off from his money ... if he still has any. We have been targeting his finances for a decade. Which has nothing to do with Somali pirates, who are mostly fishermen and criminals. OBL for all his faults is well educated. How long are you going to fight the last war? OBL has not been involved in any attacks since 9-11. The recent ones came out of Yemen, right across the straight from Somalia. ?? So we should let bygones be bygones? Bush screwed up big time by letting him slip away. Feel free to keep defending that loser. |
A problem with deep-sixing pirates....
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 19:29:37 -0500, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 11:16:59 -0800, wrote: On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 01:38:24 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 11:51:00 -0800, wrote: On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 13:32:54 -0500, wrote: The total cost of 9/11 is about $2 TRILLION AND CLIMBING. Bush ignored warnings that it was going to happen, then invaded a country that had nothing to do with it. I guess when you get a memo that says OBL determined to attack the US, it's ok to file it in the round file. Another non-responsive answer. My error... you were talking about the cost of 9/11 to the terrorists. Sorry. OBL had/has $100M to play with. Yet, the Somali pirates are not terrorists. They're criminals. Since they're the ones who are getting the money, an attack on the US from them is pretty unlikely. I know you'd like to make the case that there is some equivalency between the two, but there isn't. Bush tried that, unfortunately successfully. "Gad" is the operative word. Our government thinks they have sequestered/confiscated his money and there really are not that many ATMs in the mountains of Pakistan anyway. We don't have a clue who the Somali pirates are or who is behind them. There is plenty of Al Qaeda activity in Somalia and is unreasonable to think they don't have an eye on that money. You admitted Somalia could be a problem about a month ago and said we should invade them too if we could prove it. I never said that. Prove it. Most of the people who are profiting are war lords and have no great interest in attacking the US. That's just nonsense. And you know this how? Even if you are right and is only a few who are Al Qaeda, it only takes one. I've already posted links to this. Feel free to do your own research! So, you believe in Cheney's 1% solution. Classic. Personally I think it is better to just cut off the money. How? Who should we starve this time? You cut off the money by stopping the pirates ?? Maybe you can freeze their BofA checking accounts. We were talking about where the NEXT attack may come from and where the money to finance is coming from. While Al Qaeda is amassing millions in Somalia, we are still attacking goat herders in Pakistan and Afghanistan who don't have 2 nickels to rub together. OBL was just the money, not the brains. You have demonstrated how easy it is to launder money and you know there are 100 guys as smart as bin laden, just not as rich. Now they are rich. This piracy is a clear and present danger to the US, certainly more than some broke assed Taliban guys running around Kanahar. Sounds like revisionist history to me. Maybe NOW the Taliban aren't rich (OBL certainly still is) and they aren't attacking the US sans a few people who were warned about going there (kind of reminds me of those hikers who got arrested by Iran). OBL is very well cut off from his money ... if he still has any. We have been targeting his finances for a decade. Which has nothing to do with Somali pirates, who are mostly fishermen and criminals. OBL for all his faults is well educated. How long are you going to fight the last war? OBL has not been involved in any attacks since 9-11. The recent ones came out of Yemen, right across the straight from Somalia. ?? So we should let bygones be bygones? Bush screwed up big time by letting him slip away. Feel free to keep defending that loser. You are willing to bomb and kill thousands of Afghanis for a decade because some guy passed through there 10 years ago but you think Tosk is evil because he wants to bomb some fishing villages that sponsor pirates. What?? We're certainly not doing that in Afg. Bush is the one who wouldn't commit troops there when we could have caught him. I guess OBL wasn't that important... But, you want to commit 300K troops in Somalia. I don't think Tosk is evil. I think he's a moron and an asshole/stalker. Don't blame me... you brought him up. |
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says... On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 19:29:37 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 11:16:59 -0800, wrote: On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 01:38:24 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 11:51:00 -0800, wrote: On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 13:32:54 -0500, wrote: The total cost of 9/11 is about $2 TRILLION AND CLIMBING. Bush ignored warnings that it was going to happen, then invaded a country that had nothing to do with it. I guess when you get a memo that says OBL determined to attack the US, it's ok to file it in the round file. Another non-responsive answer. My error... you were talking about the cost of 9/11 to the terrorists. Sorry. OBL had/has $100M to play with. Yet, the Somali pirates are not terrorists. They're criminals. Since they're the ones who are getting the money, an attack on the US from them is pretty unlikely. I know you'd like to make the case that there is some equivalency between the two, but there isn't. Bush tried that, unfortunately successfully. "Gad" is the operative word. Our government thinks they have sequestered/confiscated his money and there really are not that many ATMs in the mountains of Pakistan anyway. We don't have a clue who the Somali pirates are or who is behind them. There is plenty of Al Qaeda activity in Somalia and is unreasonable to think they don't have an eye on that money. You admitted Somalia could be a problem about a month ago and said we should invade them too if we could prove it. I never said that. Prove it. Most of the people who are profiting are war lords and have no great interest in attacking the US. That's just nonsense. And you know this how? Even if you are right and is only a few who are Al Qaeda, it only takes one. I've already posted links to this. Feel free to do your own research! So, you believe in Cheney's 1% solution. Classic. Personally I think it is better to just cut off the money. How? Who should we starve this time? You cut off the money by stopping the pirates ?? Maybe you can freeze their BofA checking accounts. We were talking about where the NEXT attack may come from and where the money to finance is coming from. While Al Qaeda is amassing millions in Somalia, we are still attacking goat herders in Pakistan and Afghanistan who don't have 2 nickels to rub together. OBL was just the money, not the brains. You have demonstrated how easy it is to launder money and you know there are 100 guys as smart as bin laden, just not as rich. Now they are rich. This piracy is a clear and present danger to the US, certainly more than some broke assed Taliban guys running around Kanahar. Sounds like revisionist history to me. Maybe NOW the Taliban aren't rich (OBL certainly still is) and they aren't attacking the US sans a few people who were warned about going there (kind of reminds me of those hikers who got arrested by Iran). OBL is very well cut off from his money ... if he still has any. We have been targeting his finances for a decade. Which has nothing to do with Somali pirates, who are mostly fishermen and criminals. OBL for all his faults is well educated. How long are you going to fight the last war? OBL has not been involved in any attacks since 9-11. The recent ones came out of Yemen, right across the straight from Somalia. ?? So we should let bygones be bygones? Bush screwed up big time by letting him slip away. Feel free to keep defending that loser. You are willing to bomb and kill thousands of Afghanis for a decade because some guy passed through there 10 years ago but you think Tosk is evil because he wants to bomb some fishing villages that sponsor pirates. What?? We're certainly not doing that in Afg. Bush is the one who wouldn't commit troops there when we could have caught him. I guess OBL wasn't that important... But, you want to commit 300K troops in Somalia. I don't think Tosk is evil. I think he's a moron and an asshole/stalker. Don't blame me... you brought him up. And you are a retarded bitch, so what? |
A problem with deep-sixing pirates....
On 2/28/11 9:31 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In , says... On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 19:29:37 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 11:16:59 -0800, wrote: On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 01:38:24 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 11:51:00 -0800, wrote: On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 13:32:54 -0500, wrote: The total cost of 9/11 is about $2 TRILLION AND CLIMBING. Bush ignored warnings that it was going to happen, then invaded a country that had nothing to do with it. I guess when you get a memo that says OBL determined to attack the US, it's ok to file it in the round file. Another non-responsive answer. My error... you were talking about the cost of 9/11 to the terrorists. Sorry. OBL had/has $100M to play with. Yet, the Somali pirates are not terrorists. They're criminals. Since they're the ones who are getting the money, an attack on the US from them is pretty unlikely. I know you'd like to make the case that there is some equivalency between the two, but there isn't. Bush tried that, unfortunately successfully. "Gad" is the operative word. Our government thinks they have sequestered/confiscated his money and there really are not that many ATMs in the mountains of Pakistan anyway. We don't have a clue who the Somali pirates are or who is behind them. There is plenty of Al Qaeda activity in Somalia and is unreasonable to think they don't have an eye on that money. You admitted Somalia could be a problem about a month ago and said we should invade them too if we could prove it. I never said that. Prove it. Most of the people who are profiting are war lords and have no great interest in attacking the US. That's just nonsense. And you know this how? Even if you are right and is only a few who are Al Qaeda, it only takes one. I've already posted links to this. Feel free to do your own research! So, you believe in Cheney's 1% solution. Classic. Personally I think it is better to just cut off the money. How? Who should we starve this time? You cut off the money by stopping the pirates ?? Maybe you can freeze their BofA checking accounts. We were talking about where the NEXT attack may come from and where the money to finance is coming from. While Al Qaeda is amassing millions in Somalia, we are still attacking goat herders in Pakistan and Afghanistan who don't have 2 nickels to rub together. OBL was just the money, not the brains. You have demonstrated how easy it is to launder money and you know there are 100 guys as smart as bin laden, just not as rich. Now they are rich. This piracy is a clear and present danger to the US, certainly more than some broke assed Taliban guys running around Kanahar. Sounds like revisionist history to me. Maybe NOW the Taliban aren't rich (OBL certainly still is) and they aren't attacking the US sans a few people who were warned about going there (kind of reminds me of those hikers who got arrested by Iran). OBL is very well cut off from his money ... if he still has any. We have been targeting his finances for a decade. Which has nothing to do with Somali pirates, who are mostly fishermen and criminals. OBL for all his faults is well educated. How long are you going to fight the last war? OBL has not been involved in any attacks since 9-11. The recent ones came out of Yemen, right across the straight from Somalia. ?? So we should let bygones be bygones? Bush screwed up big time by letting him slip away. Feel free to keep defending that loser. You are willing to bomb and kill thousands of Afghanis for a decade because some guy passed through there 10 years ago but you think Tosk is evil because he wants to bomb some fishing villages that sponsor pirates. What?? We're certainly not doing that in Afg. Bush is the one who wouldn't commit troops there when we could have caught him. I guess OBL wasn't that important... But, you want to commit 300K troops in Somalia. I don't think Tosk is evil. I think he's a moron and an asshole/stalker. Don't blame me... you brought him up. And you are a retarded bitch, so what? I was at one of our local supermarkets earlier this evening, and when I finished shopping, I struck up a conversation with the porter there, a nice young man who is developmentally disabled but despite his handicap works hard at his job, which he has held for more than 10 years. He's a fellow who is getting along in this world, and he's obviously more employable than you are. |
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In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says... I was at one of our local supermarkets earlier this evening, and when I finished shopping, I struck up a conversation with the porter there, a nice young man who is developmentally disabled but despite his handicap works hard at his job, which he has held for more than 10 years. He's a fellow who is getting along in this world, and he's obviously more employable than you are. I am surprised the evil union busting *******s the Cohen's sold their business to are still hiring the disabled as bag loaders and cart stackers. I still don't shop at Giant except for a couple of items that Safeway doesn't stock. The cost of a trip to Giant is about 15% more than a trip to Safeway. And the evil ******* union that has a hold over employment at Giant sucks dues from high school kids when they are away on vacation with their families and not working. |
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On Feb 28, 9:11*pm, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 18:17:13 -0800, wrote: What?? We're certainly not doing that in Afg. Bush is the one who wouldn't commit troops there when we could have caught him. I guess OBL wasn't that important... But, you want to commit 300K troops in Somalia. I never said I would put ONE ... Anybody want some popcorn? |
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In article 264b75d3-377c-404f-ac36-ac4e7b398883@
18g2000prd.googlegroups.com, says... On Feb 28, 9:11*pm, wrote: On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 18:17:13 -0800, wrote: What?? We're certainly not doing that in Afg. Bush is the one who wouldn't commit troops there when we could have caught him. I guess OBL wasn't that important... But, you want to commit 300K troops in Somalia. I never said I would put ONE ... Anybody want some popcorn? I don't know who is to blame for Egypt but Greg wants to shoot all the baby deer in the woods! Oh, and he hates the number 4 too, just like all the other corporate clowns!! snerk And more popcorn;) |
A problem with deep-sixing pirates....
On Feb 28, 9:32*pm, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In article 264b75d3-377c-404f-ac36-ac4e7b398883@ 18g2000prd.googlegroups.com, says... On Feb 28, 9:11 pm, wrote: On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 18:17:13 -0800, wrote: What?? We're certainly not doing that in Afg. Bush is the one who wouldn't commit troops there when we could have caught him. I guess OBL wasn't that important... But, you want to commit 300K troops in Somalia. I never said I would put ONE ... Anybody want some popcorn? I don't know who is to blame for Egypt but Greg wants to shoot all the baby deer in the woods! *Oh, and he hates the number 4 too, just like all the other corporate clowns!! snerk And more popcorn;) Well, i dont' know about any of that, but this here slug-fest is getting interesting. One uses logic, and the other is a button pusher. me? I dont' know a good and fair answer, and at the moment I'm sitting sitting in the grand stand watching the show. |
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On Feb 28, 9:40*pm, Tim wrote:
me? I dont' know a good and fair answer, and at the moment I'm sitting sitting in the grand stand watching the show. Hmmm... time for a PayDay and a soda.... |
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A problem with deep-sixing pirates....
On Feb 28, 10:11*pm, I_am_Tosk
wrote: In article fcdaebbc-51ec-495e-af98-6905b1e75ce1 @t16g2000vbi.googlegroups.com, says... On Feb 28, 9:32 pm, I_am_Tosk wrote: In article 264b75d3-377c-404f-ac36-ac4e7b398883@ 18g2000prd.googlegroups.com, says... On Feb 28, 9:11 pm, wrote: On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 18:17:13 -0800, wrote: What?? We're certainly not doing that in Afg. Bush is the one who wouldn't commit troops there when we could have caught him. I guess OBL wasn't that important... But, you want to commit 300K troops in Somalia. I never said I would put ONE ... Anybody want some popcorn? I don't know who is to blame for Egypt but Greg wants to shoot all the baby deer in the woods! Oh, and he hates the number 4 too, just like all the other corporate clowns!! snerk And more popcorn;) Well, i dont' know about any of that, but this here slug-fest is getting interesting. One uses logic, and the other is a button pusher. me? I dont' know a good and fair answer, and at the moment I'm sitting sitting in the grand stand watching the show. I am just sitting here in shock. I made a mistake today that is gonna' have a huge effect on the race team this season. I broke an engine while prepping a bike for a guy who was gonna' buy it... I am such an idiot. I could use some popcorn, and a beer.. Well I have a beer here I think but yech, that doesn't sound good right now either. I am still in shock... that sux! |
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A problem with deep-sixing pirates....
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 21:48:10 -0500, Harryk
wrote: On 2/28/11 9:31 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote: In , says... On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 19:29:37 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 11:16:59 -0800, wrote: On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 01:38:24 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 11:51:00 -0800, wrote: On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 13:32:54 -0500, wrote: The total cost of 9/11 is about $2 TRILLION AND CLIMBING. Bush ignored warnings that it was going to happen, then invaded a country that had nothing to do with it. I guess when you get a memo that says OBL determined to attack the US, it's ok to file it in the round file. Another non-responsive answer. My error... you were talking about the cost of 9/11 to the terrorists. Sorry. OBL had/has $100M to play with. Yet, the Somali pirates are not terrorists. They're criminals. Since they're the ones who are getting the money, an attack on the US from them is pretty unlikely. I know you'd like to make the case that there is some equivalency between the two, but there isn't. Bush tried that, unfortunately successfully. "Gad" is the operative word. Our government thinks they have sequestered/confiscated his money and there really are not that many ATMs in the mountains of Pakistan anyway. We don't have a clue who the Somali pirates are or who is behind them. There is plenty of Al Qaeda activity in Somalia and is unreasonable to think they don't have an eye on that money. You admitted Somalia could be a problem about a month ago and said we should invade them too if we could prove it. I never said that. Prove it. Most of the people who are profiting are war lords and have no great interest in attacking the US. That's just nonsense. And you know this how? Even if you are right and is only a few who are Al Qaeda, it only takes one. I've already posted links to this. Feel free to do your own research! So, you believe in Cheney's 1% solution. Classic. Personally I think it is better to just cut off the money. How? Who should we starve this time? You cut off the money by stopping the pirates ?? Maybe you can freeze their BofA checking accounts. We were talking about where the NEXT attack may come from and where the money to finance is coming from. While Al Qaeda is amassing millions in Somalia, we are still attacking goat herders in Pakistan and Afghanistan who don't have 2 nickels to rub together. OBL was just the money, not the brains. You have demonstrated how easy it is to launder money and you know there are 100 guys as smart as bin laden, just not as rich. Now they are rich. This piracy is a clear and present danger to the US, certainly more than some broke assed Taliban guys running around Kanahar. Sounds like revisionist history to me. Maybe NOW the Taliban aren't rich (OBL certainly still is) and they aren't attacking the US sans a few people who were warned about going there (kind of reminds me of those hikers who got arrested by Iran). OBL is very well cut off from his money ... if he still has any. We have been targeting his finances for a decade. Which has nothing to do with Somali pirates, who are mostly fishermen and criminals. OBL for all his faults is well educated. How long are you going to fight the last war? OBL has not been involved in any attacks since 9-11. The recent ones came out of Yemen, right across the straight from Somalia. ?? So we should let bygones be bygones? Bush screwed up big time by letting him slip away. Feel free to keep defending that loser. You are willing to bomb and kill thousands of Afghanis for a decade because some guy passed through there 10 years ago but you think Tosk is evil because he wants to bomb some fishing villages that sponsor pirates. What?? We're certainly not doing that in Afg. Bush is the one who wouldn't commit troops there when we could have caught him. I guess OBL wasn't that important... But, you want to commit 300K troops in Somalia. I don't think Tosk is evil. I think he's a moron and an asshole/stalker. Don't blame me... you brought him up. And you are a retarded bitch, so what? I was at one of our local supermarkets earlier this evening, and when I finished shopping, I struck up a conversation with the porter there, a nice young man who is developmentally disabled but despite his handicap works hard at his job, which he has held for more than 10 years. He's a fellow who is getting along in this world, and he's obviously more employable than you are. I think Tosk pretty much summed up who he is with his one line response. |
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On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 22:06:00 -0500, BAR wrote:
In article , payer3389 says... I was at one of our local supermarkets earlier this evening, and when I finished shopping, I struck up a conversation with the porter there, a nice young man who is developmentally disabled but despite his handicap works hard at his job, which he has held for more than 10 years. He's a fellow who is getting along in this world, and he's obviously more employable than you are. I am surprised the evil union busting *******s the Cohen's sold their business to are still hiring the disabled as bag loaders and cart stackers. I still don't shop at Giant except for a couple of items that Safeway doesn't stock. The cost of a trip to Giant is about 15% more than a trip to Safeway. And the evil ******* union that has a hold over employment at Giant sucks dues from high school kids when they are away on vacation with their families and not working. You should feel right at home at Wal-Mart then. |
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On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 22:11:23 -0500, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 18:17:13 -0800, wrote: What?? We're certainly not doing that in Afg. Bush is the one who wouldn't commit troops there when we could have caught him. I guess OBL wasn't that important... But, you want to commit 300K troops in Somalia. I never said I would put ONE ****ING GUY on the ground in Somalia. I only said if I did I would send 100,000 (using the Peteaus or Powell doctrine) if I went and that is probably not enough. Personally I think invading Africa is as stupid as invading Afghanistan. It is actually worse politically. And, in the next sentence you said it would be a disaster. So, let me summarize... you wouldn't do it, but if you did it would be a mistake. As for OBL, it is far from certain 50,000 troops would have had any better luck in catching him without also doing a mass invasion of Pakistan, something Bush wisely did not want to do. It wouldn't have been certain, but it would have been more likely. Bush/Rumsfeld couldn't use 50K troops because they didn't think it was necessary. The screwed it up. It is one thing to put Delta teams on the ground, they are trained to move like that but putting regular troops on the ground and feeding them takes time. Your homework, how long did it take to get the troops in for most recent surge in Afghanistan and we were already there in force. (Hint: it was a number of months) What was the rush? We had intel about where he was. Bush left it to the war lords since there were no troops available. I know there were some old Delta guys on TV saying "if I just had X", everyone has an excuse for failing but there is no real proof it would have actually worked. Bush screwed us, our troops, the Afghanis and the Iraqis over. That doesn't need to be proved, since it's a fact. |
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On Feb 28, 10:44*pm, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 22:11:23 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 18:17:13 -0800, wrote: What?? We're certainly not doing that in Afg. Bush is the one who wouldn't commit troops there when we could have caught him. I guess OBL wasn't that important... But, you want to commit 300K troops in Somalia. I never said I would put ONE ****ING GUY on the ground in Somalia. I only said if I did I would send 100,000 (using the Peteaus or Powell doctrine) if I went and that is probably not enough. Personally I think invading Africa is as stupid as invading Afghanistan. It is actually worse politically. And, in the next sentence you said it would be a disaster. So, let me summarize... you wouldn't do it, but if you did it would be a mistake. As for OBL, it is far from certain 50,000 troops would have had any better luck in catching him without also doing a mass invasion of Pakistan, something Bush wisely did not want to do. It wouldn't have been certain, but it would have been more likely. Bush/Rumsfeld couldn't use 50K troops because they didn't think it was necessary. The screwed it up. "The screwed up." excellent D'Plume? Bush screwed us, our troops, the Afghanis and the Iraqis over. That doesn't need to be proved, since it's a fact. You're telling us that Bush stooped to low to screw you and JPS both? Truly the man was desperate. |
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On 2/28/11 11:11 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
I am just sitting here in shock. I made a mistake today that is gonna' have a huge effect on the race team this season. I broke an engine while prepping a bike for a guy who was gonna' buy it... I am such an idiot. Perhaps we can take up a collection...how much do you need, $5.00? |
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On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 23:11:09 -0500, I_am_Tosk
wrote: In article fcdaebbc-51ec-495e-af98-6905b1e75ce1 , says... On Feb 28, 9:32*pm, I_am_Tosk wrote: In article 264b75d3-377c-404f-ac36-ac4e7b398883@ 18g2000prd.googlegroups.com, says... On Feb 28, 9:11 pm, wrote: On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 18:17:13 -0800, wrote: What?? We're certainly not doing that in Afg. Bush is the one who wouldn't commit troops there when we could have caught him. I guess OBL wasn't that important... But, you want to commit 300K troops in Somalia. I never said I would put ONE ... Anybody want some popcorn? I don't know who is to blame for Egypt but Greg wants to shoot all the baby deer in the woods! *Oh, and he hates the number 4 too, just like all the other corporate clowns!! snerk And more popcorn;) Well, i dont' know about any of that, but this here slug-fest is getting interesting. One uses logic, and the other is a button pusher. me? I dont' know a good and fair answer, and at the moment I'm sitting sitting in the grand stand watching the show. I am just sitting here in shock. I made a mistake today that is gonna' have a huge effect on the race team this season. I broke an engine while prepping a bike for a guy who was gonna' buy it... I am such an idiot. I could use some popcorn, and a beer.. Well I have a beer here I think but yech, that doesn't sound good right now either. I am still in shock... That's some **** news. Now you'll have something to spend all that money on. What did you break in the engine? |
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says... On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 23:11:09 -0500, I_am_Tosk wrote: In article fcdaebbc-51ec-495e-af98-6905b1e75ce1 , says... On Feb 28, 9:32*pm, I_am_Tosk wrote: In article 264b75d3-377c-404f-ac36-ac4e7b398883@ 18g2000prd.googlegroups.com, says... On Feb 28, 9:11 pm, wrote: On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 18:17:13 -0800, wrote: What?? We're certainly not doing that in Afg. Bush is the one who wouldn't commit troops there when we could have caught him. I guess OBL wasn't that important... But, you want to commit 300K troops in Somalia. I never said I would put ONE ... Anybody want some popcorn? I don't know who is to blame for Egypt but Greg wants to shoot all the baby deer in the woods! *Oh, and he hates the number 4 too, just like all the other corporate clowns!! snerk And more popcorn;) Well, i dont' know about any of that, but this here slug-fest is getting interesting. One uses logic, and the other is a button pusher. me? I dont' know a good and fair answer, and at the moment I'm sitting sitting in the grand stand watching the show. I am just sitting here in shock. I made a mistake today that is gonna' have a huge effect on the race team this season. I broke an engine while prepping a bike for a guy who was gonna' buy it... I am such an idiot. I could use some popcorn, and a beer.. Well I have a beer here I think but yech, that doesn't sound good right now either. I am still in shock... That's some **** news. Now you'll have something to spend all that money on. What did you break in the engine? I somehow I dropped a screw down in the cylinder, found out as soon as it kicked over:( Hey, **** happens. We were going to use the cash to send the race bike to the builder for some extra "fun". It goes something like this.. Racer: How fast can you make it go? Engine Builder: As fast as you want, how much money do you want to spend? .... so, do we go fast, or get new uniforms this season? Guess I better get out the brush and the old pink motowash;), cause we do want it to go fast;) Just another setback, but "that's racin". We will be ready though, Jessi has been in the gym like a maniac over the winter and she is just about where we need to be mentally too... The racebike is just about ready for the builder, we are waiting for one part but it will be here in plenty of time. Anyway, wish us luck, this should be a transition year for us.. |
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On 2/28/2011 10:22 PM, Tim wrote:
On Feb 28, 9:11 pm, wrote: On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 18:17:13 -0800, wrote: What?? We're certainly not doing that in Afg. Bush is the one who wouldn't commit troops there when we could have caught him. I guess OBL wasn't that important... But, you want to commit 300K troops in Somalia. I never said I would put ONE ... Anybody want some popcorn? This is the kind of show where you can tune in any time, have a few laughs, then leave. If you like the Greg and Jessica Da Plume show. You'd love Abbot and Costello. Particularly the "Who's on first" episode. |
A problem with deep-sixing pirates....
On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 08:26:27 -0500, I_am_Tosk
wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 23:11:09 -0500, I_am_Tosk wrote: In article fcdaebbc-51ec-495e-af98-6905b1e75ce1 , says... On Feb 28, 9:32*pm, I_am_Tosk wrote: In article 264b75d3-377c-404f-ac36-ac4e7b398883@ 18g2000prd.googlegroups.com, says... On Feb 28, 9:11 pm, wrote: On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 18:17:13 -0800, wrote: What?? We're certainly not doing that in Afg. Bush is the one who wouldn't commit troops there when we could have caught him. I guess OBL wasn't that important... But, you want to commit 300K troops in Somalia. I never said I would put ONE ... Anybody want some popcorn? I don't know who is to blame for Egypt but Greg wants to shoot all the baby deer in the woods! *Oh, and he hates the number 4 too, just like all the other corporate clowns!! snerk And more popcorn;) Well, i dont' know about any of that, but this here slug-fest is getting interesting. One uses logic, and the other is a button pusher. me? I dont' know a good and fair answer, and at the moment I'm sitting sitting in the grand stand watching the show. I am just sitting here in shock. I made a mistake today that is gonna' have a huge effect on the race team this season. I broke an engine while prepping a bike for a guy who was gonna' buy it... I am such an idiot. I could use some popcorn, and a beer.. Well I have a beer here I think but yech, that doesn't sound good right now either. I am still in shock... That's some **** news. Now you'll have something to spend all that money on. What did you break in the engine? I somehow I dropped a screw down in the cylinder, found out as soon as it kicked over:( Hey, **** happens. We were going to use the cash to send the race bike to the builder for some extra "fun". It goes something like this.. Racer: How fast can you make it go? Engine Builder: As fast as you want, how much money do you want to spend? ... so, do we go fast, or get new uniforms this season? Guess I better get out the brush and the old pink motowash;), cause we do want it to go fast;) Just another setback, but "that's racin". We will be ready though, Jessi has been in the gym like a maniac over the winter and she is just about where we need to be mentally too... The racebike is just about ready for the builder, we are waiting for one part but it will be here in plenty of time. Anyway, wish us luck, this should be a transition year for us.. I can't imagine that, unless you had the head off. I broke a ring in my last Guzzi and had to replace piston, rings, cylinder, and the head. Did both sides. Parts cost right at $500, but that was in Germany and about 20 years ago. I learned a lot about motorcycle engines doing it. |
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