On 3/1/2011 4:13 AM, TopBassDog wrote:
On Feb 28, 10:44 pm, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 22:11:23 -0500, wrote:

Bush screwed us. That
doesn't need to be proved, since it's a fact.
You're telling us that Bush stooped to low to screw you and JPS both?
Truly the man was desperate.

I don't think JPS was involved. It was a manage-a-trois among her,
Jessica, and the other guy. And we thought Clinton chose the bottom of
the barrel for his interludes.

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says...

On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 08:26:27 -0500, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 23:11:09 -0500, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article fcdaebbc-51ec-495e-af98-6905b1e75ce1
, says...

On Feb 28, 9:32*pm, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In article 264b75d3-377c-404f-ac36-ac4e7b398883@
18g2000prd.googlegroups.com, says...



On Feb 28, 9:11 pm, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 18:17:13 -0800, wrote:
What?? We're certainly not doing that in Afg. Bush is the one who
wouldn't commit troops there when we could have caught him. I guess
OBL wasn't that important... But, you want to commit 300K troops in
Somalia.

I never said I would put ONE ...

Anybody want some popcorn?

I don't know who is to blame for Egypt but Greg wants to shoot all the
baby deer in the woods! *Oh, and he hates the number 4 too, just like
all the other corporate clowns!! snerk

And more popcorn

Well, i dont' know about any of that, but this here slug-fest is
getting interesting.

One uses logic, and the other is a button pusher.

me? I dont' know a good and fair answer, and at the moment I'm sitting
sitting in the grand stand watching the show.

I am just sitting here in shock. I made a mistake today that is gonna'
have a huge effect on the race team this season. I broke an engine while
prepping a bike for a guy who was gonna' buy it... I am such an idiot.

I could use some popcorn, and a beer.. Well I have a beer here I think
but yech, that doesn't sound good right now either. I am still in
shock...



That's some **** news. Now you'll have something to spend all that money on.
What did you break in the engine?


I somehow I dropped a screw down in the cylinder, found out as soon as
it kicked over Hey, **** happens. We were going to use the cash to
send the race bike to the builder for some extra "fun".

It goes something like this..
Racer: How fast can you make it go?
Engine Builder: As fast as you want, how much money do you want to
spend?

... so, do we go fast, or get new uniforms this season? Guess I better
get out the brush and the old pink motowash, cause we do want it to go
fast

Just another setback, but "that's racin". We will be ready though, Jessi
has been in the gym like a maniac over the winter and she is just about
where we need to be mentally too... The racebike is just about ready for
the builder, we are waiting for one part but it will be here in plenty
of time.

Anyway, wish us luck, this should be a transition year for us..


I can't imagine that, unless you had the head off. I broke a ring in my last
Guzzi and had to replace piston, rings, cylinder, and the head. Did both sides.
Parts cost right at $500, but that was in Germany and about 20 years ago. I
learned a lot about motorcycle engines doing it.

I was chasing a thread on the intake and in a hurry. After I ran a bolt
through I somehow dropped it into the intake and I just don't know. I
did have a chaser, and a small wrench in the hand as I turned away, and
just never noticed the small "test" bolt was not there... I still can't
believe it...

On 2/28/2011

Iran).


Em says
Which has nothing to do with Somali pirates, who are mostly fishermen
and criminals. OBL for all his faults is well educated.

A wise man observes
Smells like you'd like to crawl in his filthy sack with him


I don't think Tosk is evil. I think he's a moron and an
asshole/stalker. Don't blame me... you brought him up.
And you are a retarded bitch, so what?
(Krowse, butting his head in, deleted)
I think Tosk pretty much summed up who he is with his one line
response.
An excellent judge of character seems to be who he is.

On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 08:52:06 -0500, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 08:26:27 -0500, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 23:11:09 -0500, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article fcdaebbc-51ec-495e-af98-6905b1e75ce1
, says...

On Feb 28, 9:32*pm, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In article 264b75d3-377c-404f-ac36-ac4e7b398883@
18g2000prd.googlegroups.com, says...



On Feb 28, 9:11 pm, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 18:17:13 -0800, wrote:
What?? We're certainly not doing that in Afg. Bush is the one who
wouldn't commit troops there when we could have caught him. I guess
OBL wasn't that important... But, you want to commit 300K troops in
Somalia.

I never said I would put ONE ...

Anybody want some popcorn?

I don't know who is to blame for Egypt but Greg wants to shoot all the
baby deer in the woods! *Oh, and he hates the number 4 too, just like
all the other corporate clowns!! snerk

And more popcorn

Well, i dont' know about any of that, but this here slug-fest is
getting interesting.

One uses logic, and the other is a button pusher.

me? I dont' know a good and fair answer, and at the moment I'm sitting
sitting in the grand stand watching the show.

I am just sitting here in shock. I made a mistake today that is gonna'
have a huge effect on the race team this season. I broke an engine while
prepping a bike for a guy who was gonna' buy it... I am such an idiot.

I could use some popcorn, and a beer.. Well I have a beer here I think
but yech, that doesn't sound good right now either. I am still in
shock...



That's some **** news. Now you'll have something to spend all that money on.
What did you break in the engine?


I somehow I dropped a screw down in the cylinder, found out as soon as
it kicked over Hey, **** happens. We were going to use the cash to
send the race bike to the builder for some extra "fun".

It goes something like this..
Racer: How fast can you make it go?
Engine Builder: As fast as you want, how much money do you want to
spend?

... so, do we go fast, or get new uniforms this season? Guess I better
get out the brush and the old pink motowash, cause we do want it to go
fast

Just another setback, but "that's racin". We will be ready though, Jessi
has been in the gym like a maniac over the winter and she is just about
where we need to be mentally too... The racebike is just about ready for
the builder, we are waiting for one part but it will be here in plenty
of time.

Anyway, wish us luck, this should be a transition year for us..


I can't imagine that, unless you had the head off. I broke a ring in my last
Guzzi and had to replace piston, rings, cylinder, and the head. Did both sides.
Parts cost right at $500, but that was in Germany and about 20 years ago. I
learned a lot about motorcycle engines doing it.

I was chasing a thread on the intake and in a hurry. After I ran a bolt
through I somehow dropped it into the intake and I just don't know. I
did have a chaser, and a small wrench in the hand as I turned away, and
just never noticed the small "test" bolt was not there... I still can't
believe it...

Did it get into the cylinder, or caught by a valve? Did you start the engine
after dropping the bolt? I guess you must've or the problem wouldn't be as big.

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 08:52:06 -0500, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 08:26:27 -0500, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 23:11:09 -0500, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article fcdaebbc-51ec-495e-af98-6905b1e75ce1
, says...

On Feb 28, 9:32*pm, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In article 264b75d3-377c-404f-ac36-ac4e7b398883@
18g2000prd.googlegroups.com, says...



On Feb 28, 9:11 pm, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 18:17:13 -0800, wrote:
What?? We're certainly not doing that in Afg. Bush is the one who
wouldn't commit troops there when we could have caught him. I guess
OBL wasn't that important... But, you want to commit 300K troops in
Somalia.

I never said I would put ONE ...

Anybody want some popcorn?

I don't know who is to blame for Egypt but Greg wants to shoot all the
baby deer in the woods! *Oh, and he hates the number 4 too, just like
all the other corporate clowns!! snerk

And more popcorn

Well, i dont' know about any of that, but this here slug-fest is
getting interesting.

One uses logic, and the other is a button pusher.

me? I dont' know a good and fair answer, and at the moment I'm sitting
sitting in the grand stand watching the show.

I am just sitting here in shock. I made a mistake today that is gonna'
have a huge effect on the race team this season. I broke an engine while
prepping a bike for a guy who was gonna' buy it... I am such an idiot.

I could use some popcorn, and a beer.. Well I have a beer here I think
but yech, that doesn't sound good right now either. I am still in
shock...



That's some **** news. Now you'll have something to spend all that money on.
What did you break in the engine?


I somehow I dropped a screw down in the cylinder, found out as soon as
it kicked over Hey, **** happens. We were going to use the cash to
send the race bike to the builder for some extra "fun".

It goes something like this..
Racer: How fast can you make it go?
Engine Builder: As fast as you want, how much money do you want to
spend?

... so, do we go fast, or get new uniforms this season? Guess I better
get out the brush and the old pink motowash, cause we do want it to go
fast

Just another setback, but "that's racin". We will be ready though, Jessi
has been in the gym like a maniac over the winter and she is just about
where we need to be mentally too... The racebike is just about ready for
the builder, we are waiting for one part but it will be here in plenty
of time.

Anyway, wish us luck, this should be a transition year for us..


I can't imagine that, unless you had the head off. I broke a ring in my last
Guzzi and had to replace piston, rings, cylinder, and the head. Did both sides.
Parts cost right at $500, but that was in Germany and about 20 years ago. I
learned a lot about motorcycle engines doing it.

I was chasing a thread on the intake and in a hurry. After I ran a bolt
through I somehow dropped it into the intake and I just don't know. I
did have a chaser, and a small wrench in the hand as I turned away, and
just never noticed the small "test" bolt was not there... I still can't
believe it...

Did it get into the cylinder, or caught by a valve? Did you start the engine
after dropping the bolt? I guess you must've or the problem wouldn't be as big.

I think it's jammed between the crank and the case. I "started" to
start, but it only turned over a couple rpm's. It never got to speed so
we might be ok.

I am about done taking the engine out of the frame and I am gonna' pull
the cylinder off, then my bud is gonna' come over and split the case for
me and inspect for damage. Hoping for the best, but expecting the worst.

Worst case scenario I have to part the bike out, but at the same time, I
would make a lot more for it if I did. The front forks and shock alone
are worth about 600, it has a Bills pipe (400), and a pro-circuit rear
suspension setup that is nearly 400 new from the factory.. Then there is
the frame, tripleclamps, engine parts, clutch baskets.

Option 3 is to shelf it and spend a few hundred over the summer to put
it together and ride it again. I do love the bike after all....

Either way, I am gonna' learn how to split a case tonight so all is not
lost. This will save me hundreds of dollars later in our adventure! Not
to mention a re-learned hard lesson on working on bikes and being in a
hurry...

On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 08:52:06 -0500, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

I was chasing a thread on the intake and in a hurry. After I ran a bolt
through I somehow dropped it into the intake

That's too bad, no doubt an expensive lesson there someplace.

I hear stories about how the top notch racing team mechanics keep
their work area scrupulously clean and well organized. We have
several acquaintances that used to manage their own teams. Both of
them claim to have had their engines torn down after every race,
replaced critical components and inspected everything. I've also
known several mechanics who work with a partner, someone who acts as a
second pair of eyes and hands.

On 3/1/11 11:41 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 08:52:06 -0500, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

I was chasing a thread on the intake and in a hurry. After I ran a bolt
through I somehow dropped it into the intake

That's too bad, no doubt an expensive lesson there someplace.

I hear stories about how the top notch racing team mechanics keep
their work area scrupulously clean and well organized. We have
several acquaintances that used to manage their own teams. Both of
them claim to have had their engines torn down after every race,
replaced critical components and inspected everything. I've also
known several mechanics who work with a partner, someone who acts as a
second pair of eyes and hands.



Way back when, there was a boat dealer in New Haven, I don't remember
the name of his business, but the dealer's name was Art Vreeland. His
store was near the lighthouse in New Haven.

Anyway, Art, a delightful guy and a friend of my dad's, was a first-rate
mechanic, or so everyone said. I was too young to know. He sold Mercury
outboards and Lyman runabouts. His shop was an absolute disaster. Every
square inch of workbench space was covered with pieces, parts, tools,
empty sodapop bottles, cigar butts, you name it, it was there. Yet, I
remember my father saying that "Art could strip down one of those junky
Mercs and rebuild it faster than anyone." At the time, my father was an
Evinrude dealer and had a low opinion of Merc outboards. A decade later,
he became a Merc dealer.

I'll always remember my visits to Art's dealership. Art himself was a
pretty colorful character, as were most of the dealers I met who got
into the biz right after WW II.

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 08:52:06 -0500, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

I was chasing a thread on the intake and in a hurry. After I ran a bolt
through I somehow dropped it into the intake

That's too bad, no doubt an expensive lesson there someplace.

I hear stories about how the top notch racing team mechanics keep
their work area scrupulously clean and well organized. We have
several acquaintances that used to manage their own teams. Both of
them claim to have had their engines torn down after every race,
replaced critical components and inspected everything. I've also
known several mechanics who work with a partner, someone who acts as a
second pair of eyes and hands.

Ideally I try to work like that, at least I did when I worked on cars. I
could reach into a drawer and grab an 11mm without even looking. This
time I let my emotion get to me and didn't prepare properly or think
things out well... An expensive mistake.

Especially when you consider the original mistake was forgetting that
just because a plug comes new in a box, it's good.. Yep, could have
avoided this if I had taken that into consideration.. A very costly
mistake indeed...

In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says...

On 3/1/11 11:41 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 08:52:06 -0500, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

I was chasing a thread on the intake and in a hurry. After I ran a bolt
through I somehow dropped it into the intake

That's too bad, no doubt an expensive lesson there someplace.

I hear stories about how the top notch racing team mechanics keep
their work area scrupulously clean and well organized. We have
several acquaintances that used to manage their own teams. Both of
them claim to have had their engines torn down after every race,
replaced critical components and inspected everything. I've also
known several mechanics who work with a partner, someone who acts as a
second pair of eyes and hands.



Way back when, there was a boat dealer in New Haven, I don't remember
the name of his business, but the dealer's name was Art Vreeland. His
store was near the lighthouse in New Haven.

Anyway, Art, a delightful guy and a friend of my dad's, was a first-rate
mechanic, or so everyone said. I was too young to know. He sold Mercury
outboards and Lyman runabouts. His shop was an absolute disaster. Every
square inch of workbench space was covered with pieces, parts, tools,
empty sodapop bottles, cigar butts, you name it, it was there. Yet, I
remember my father saying that "Art could strip down one of those junky
Mercs and rebuild it faster than anyone." At the time, my father was an
Evinrude dealer and had a low opinion of Merc outboards. A decade later,
he became a Merc dealer.

I'll always remember my visits to Art's dealership. Art himself was a
pretty colorful character, as were most of the dealers I met who got
into the biz right after WW II.

More WAFA bull****.

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 11:52:38 -0500, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

Especially when you consider the original mistake was forgetting that
just because a plug comes new in a box, it's good.. Yep, could have
avoided this if I had taken that into consideration.. A very costly
mistake indeed...

This is on topic so I split it out

I trust a spark plug that has been running 1000 hours more than a new
one, until I see it run.

The only "testing" the manufacturers do these days is that it fits in
the box.
New defective parts are fairly rare and that just makes it harder when
you are trying to fix something. In trouble shooting it is a good idea
to back out new parts that didn't fix anything before you replace
something else.

Another lesson re-learned. I have the engine out and am about to take
off the head. One of the officials from the league we race is going to
have me over to split the cases in his shop. He says the only thing is
we may have to make a splitter/puller for the crankcase. It's just a
straight slotted bar with three tapped holes, just add bolts...

It sounds pretty straight forward, and I have been going through the
manual and the explosions, and I think I got it. I forgot to mention
it's a two stroke so it's not as bad as it could have been... Of course
I haven't seen the inside of the engine yet either

Soooooo glad it wasn't the four stroke!