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HarryK[_8_] February 22nd 11 04:14 PM

4 sailors killed by pirates
 
google the story

jps February 22nd 11 06:46 PM

4 sailors killed by pirates
 
On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 13:04:06 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 11:14:09 -0500, HarryK
wrote:

google the story


If they killed all the hostages the answer is simple, sink the boat
and leave the survivors bobbing in the sea.


They're on a very nice sailboat owned by the dead hostage.

HarryK[_8_] February 22nd 11 10:31 PM

4 sailors killed by pirates
 
On 2/22/2011 4:36 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 10:46:03 -0800, wrote:

On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 13:04:06 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 11:14:09 -0500,
wrote:

google the story
If they killed all the hostages the answer is simple, sink the boat
and leave the survivors bobbing in the sea.

They're on a very nice sailboat owned by the dead hostage.

They no longer have need of it. The sailboat is a pirate ship now. Lob
a few 5" HE rounds into it from a couple miles away and come home.

If we really want to stop this crap we can.
Use aerial surveillance to profile the mother ships, monitor them from
over the horizon and when they start an attack, be there with air
power.. If you sink a few of these, the pirates may decide pirating is
not worth the risk.

Then what?Pirating is 100% of the Somali GNP.

jps February 22nd 11 11:19 PM

4 sailors killed by pirates
 
On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 16:36:17 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 10:46:03 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 13:04:06 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 11:14:09 -0500, HarryK
wrote:

google the story

If they killed all the hostages the answer is simple, sink the boat
and leave the survivors bobbing in the sea.


They're on a very nice sailboat owned by the dead hostage.


They no longer have need of it. The sailboat is a pirate ship now. Lob
a few 5" HE rounds into it from a couple miles away and come home.

If we really want to stop this crap we can.
Use aerial surveillance to profile the mother ships, monitor them from
over the horizon and when they start an attack, be there with air
power.. If you sink a few of these, the pirates may decide pirating is
not worth the risk.


We need to recover the sailboat so we can tax it as an asset as it's
going from parents to children.

[email protected] February 22nd 11 11:23 PM

4 sailors killed by pirates
 
On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 16:36:17 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 10:46:03 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 13:04:06 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 11:14:09 -0500, HarryK
wrote:

google the story

If they killed all the hostages the answer is simple, sink the boat
and leave the survivors bobbing in the sea.


They're on a very nice sailboat owned by the dead hostage.


They no longer have need of it. The sailboat is a pirate ship now. Lob
a few 5" HE rounds into it from a couple miles away and come home.

If we really want to stop this crap we can.
Use aerial surveillance to profile the mother ships, monitor them from
over the horizon and when they start an attack, be there with air
power.. If you sink a few of these, the pirates may decide pirating is
not worth the risk.


Why don't we use Predators? Seems like it would be a lot for a the
buck. If they carry bombs, well, you know there aren't going to be too
many innocents involved.

[email protected] February 23rd 11 12:14 AM

4 sailors killed by pirates
 
On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 19:01:47 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 15:23:12 -0800,
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 16:36:17 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 10:46:03 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 13:04:06 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 11:14:09 -0500, HarryK
wrote:

google the story

If they killed all the hostages the answer is simple, sink the boat
and leave the survivors bobbing in the sea.

They're on a very nice sailboat owned by the dead hostage.

They no longer have need of it. The sailboat is a pirate ship now. Lob
a few 5" HE rounds into it from a couple miles away and come home.

If we really want to stop this crap we can.
Use aerial surveillance to profile the mother ships, monitor them from
over the horizon and when they start an attack, be there with air
power.. If you sink a few of these, the pirates may decide pirating is
not worth the risk.


Why don't we use Predators? Seems like it would be a lot for a the
buck. If they carry bombs, well, you know there aren't going to be too
many innocents involved.


That is what I was thinking and use a global hawk for the
surveillance.
One advantage of drones is we wouldn't have the problem of taking
prisoners.That seems pretty effective in Afghanistan. Just kill them
all and let god sort them out.

The idea of putting these guys in an American prison as some kind of
deterrent is ridiculous. If you are a Somali pirate, Pelican Bay is a
health spa. Did you see the smile on the face of the guy they took on
the Maersk Alabama while they were hauling him off to prison?
Maybe it is time we brought back "walking the plank" for these
pirates.


I have a feeling Pelican Bay might change is attitude.

Canuck57[_9_] February 23rd 11 12:20 AM

4 sailors killed by pirates
 
On 22/02/2011 9:14 AM, HarryK wrote:

google the story


Ya, and they should have just fed the fish with the 13 they caught.

Send out a training carrier. Park it right off Somalia. Drove some
fliers of in Mogadishu to whatever the hole is called. The message
should read, "If you are outside of the 25nm shore limit, we shoot
without notice.

Every few hours an Apache or tomcat takes off and shoots up anything
outside of the 25mn limit it can't identify as friendly.

When pirates cease coming home, they will cease pirating.

To get things on the roll, send in the Delta Force and Special Ops to
clean up and move the 35 shops or so in the ransom queue. If they are
not friendly, shoot.

I really think it is time to nail them hard.
--
Socialism is a great ideal as long as someone else pays for it. And when
no one is left to pay for it, they all can share nothing.

Canuck57[_9_] February 23rd 11 12:21 AM

4 sailors killed by pirates
 
On 22/02/2011 11:04 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 11:14:09 -0500,
wrote:

google the story


If they killed all the hostages the answer is simple, sink the boat
and leave the survivors bobbing in the sea.


Yep, feed the fish!

--
Socialism is a great ideal as long as someone else pays for it. And when
no one is left to pay for it, they all can share nothing.

Canuck57[_9_] February 23rd 11 12:22 AM

4 sailors killed by pirates
 
On 22/02/2011 3:31 PM, HarryK wrote:
On 2/22/2011 4:36 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 10:46:03 -0800, wrote:

On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 13:04:06 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 11:14:09 -0500,
wrote:

google the story
If they killed all the hostages the answer is simple, sink the boat
and leave the survivors bobbing in the sea.
They're on a very nice sailboat owned by the dead hostage.

They no longer have need of it. The sailboat is a pirate ship now. Lob
a few 5" HE rounds into it from a couple miles away and come home.

If we really want to stop this crap we can.
Use aerial surveillance to profile the mother ships, monitor them from
over the horizon and when they start an attack, be there with air
power.. If you sink a few of these, the pirates may decide pirating is
not worth the risk.

Then what?Pirating is 100% of the Somali GNP.


It isn't, dope is the other part.

--
Socialism is a great ideal as long as someone else pays for it. And when
no one is left to pay for it, they all can share nothing.

Canuck57[_9_] February 23rd 11 12:25 AM

4 sailors killed by pirates
 
On 22/02/2011 5:01 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 15:23:12 -0800,
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 16:36:17 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 10:46:03 -0800, wrote:

On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 13:04:06 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 11:14:09 -0500,
wrote:

google the story

If they killed all the hostages the answer is simple, sink the boat
and leave the survivors bobbing in the sea.

They're on a very nice sailboat owned by the dead hostage.

They no longer have need of it. The sailboat is a pirate ship now. Lob
a few 5" HE rounds into it from a couple miles away and come home.

If we really want to stop this crap we can.
Use aerial surveillance to profile the mother ships, monitor them from
over the horizon and when they start an attack, be there with air
power.. If you sink a few of these, the pirates may decide pirating is
not worth the risk.


Why don't we use Predators? Seems like it would be a lot for a the
buck. If they carry bombs, well, you know there aren't going to be too
many innocents involved.


That is what I was thinking and use a global hawk for the
surveillance.
One advantage of drones is we wouldn't have the problem of taking
prisoners.That seems pretty effective in Afghanistan. Just kill them
all and let god sort them out.

The idea of putting these guys in an American prison as some kind of
deterrent is ridiculous. If you are a Somali pirate, Pelican Bay is a
health spa. Did you see the smile on the face of the guy they took on
the Maersk Alabama while they were hauling him off to prison?
Maybe it is time we brought back "walking the plank" for these
pirates.


Agreed. Seems stupid to give them club fed.

Slit the wrists and walk the plank is the right thing to do. Worked
rather well in the old days.


--
Socialism is a great ideal as long as someone else pays for it. And when
no one is left to pay for it, they all can share nothing.


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