"Jim -" wrote in message
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Poor Jim/Dennis...can't even compete with a blue collar auto worker.

Based on the intention of that remark, you obviously think little of the
blue collar
auto worker you claim to defend. You are a total farce.


Notice that he never disputes the Dennis/Jim thing? Funny, him calling
someone else a farce. I'll bet he's neither Jim nor Dennis.

Maybe a wash out auto worker named Denice?

Maybe he's Skipper?


"jps" wrote in message
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"Jim -" wrote in message
et...

Poor Jim/Dennis...can't even compete with a blue collar auto worker.

Based on the intention of that remark, you obviously think little of the
blue collar
auto worker you claim to defend. You are a total farce.


Notice that he never disputes the Dennis/Jim thing? Funny, him calling
someone else a farce. I'll bet he's neither Jim nor Dennis.

Maybe a wash out auto worker named Denice?

Cost of closing a plant is almost more than keeping it open. When the UAW
worker gets laid off, or furloughed, they get 95% of the pay they get when
working. Do not know for how long, but 2 years sticks in the memory. Then
the remaining workers go out for any perceived slight.
Bill

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
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Blame both GM and the unions. The plant closing is due exclusively to
neither
party.

However, with increased automation in an attempt to cut costs, union
labor
workforces
have been cut...perhaps due to the high costs of those union workers.

One also has to wonder about the efficiency of an old plant like that and
whether or
not GM attempted to modernize it to keep it as efficient as possible.

I would have to agree. The way they make cars these days, it doesn't
matter
very much if the guys on the line are getting
$8 an hour or a decent, living wage.

Being competitive today is more about robotics and automation than whether
the
workforce has been hired for the lowest conceivable dollar. There aren't
as
many man hours in a car as just several years ago.

The old plant was probably not suitable for upgrade to the next generation
of
automation. That would be a death knell, even if they had convict labor
working
for
35 cents an hour.

NOYB wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:

"basskisser" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message news:8lsbb.21089
No wonder GM finds it hard to compete. I'm sure it has been
modernized
that plant over the years, but the age of the facility speaks
volumes
about what is wrong with the management of America's car
manufacturers.


No kidding. Management should have shut it down years ago in favor
of
opening a more profitable non-union plant. I guess it took 68 years
of
"negotiations" with UAW to finally win concessions for closing the
place.

Please provide...

No. *You* prove I'm wrong.




No one has to. You're 30 years old and have led a sheltered life. What
the hell would you know about working at an auto plant, or, for that
matter, any other factory job?

What would *you* know about it? You peck away at a keyboard, and before
that a type-writer, writing "we hate management" slogans meant to incite
anger in people out there doing real work. You represent a group that first
sparks the outrage, and then reaps the benefits in the form of union dues.
That makes you a low-life, exploitive, flim flam man...who's ****ed you
couldn't pass "p-chem" so that you could have pursued a "real" profession.
Your failed miserable life, combined with extreme Narcissistic Personality
Disorder, make you a time bomb ready to go off when it becomes apparent that
your entire life's "work" has gone for naught. Pretty sad...


I've had both factory and construction jobs, little boy.

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Jim - wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Jim - wrote:

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Blame both GM and the unions. The plant closing is due exclusively to neither
party.

However, with increased automation in an attempt to cut costs, union labor
workforces
have been cut...perhaps due to the high costs of those union workers.

One also has to wonder about the efficiency of an old plant like that and
whether or
not GM attempted to modernize it to keep it as efficient as possible.

I would have to agree. The way they make cars these days, it doesn't matter
very much if the guys on the line are getting
$8 an hour or a decent, living wage.

Being competitive today is more about robotics and automation than whether the
workforce has been hired for the lowest conceivable dollar. There aren't as
many man hours in a car as just several years ago.

The old plant was probably not suitable for upgrade to the next generation of
automation. That would be a death knell, even if they had convict labor working
for
35 cents an hour.



What auto worker do you know that is making $8/hour? Try $26-$30/hour plus another
$35/hour in benefits.
http://www.uaw.org/barg/03/barg02.cfm



Poor Jim/Dennis...can't even compete with a blue collar auto worker.

Based on the intention of that remark, you obviously think little of the blue collar
auto worker you claim to defend. You are a total farce.



Poor dumb Jim/Dennis. Incontinent to the end.

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jps wrote:

"Jim -" wrote in message
et...

Poor Jim/Dennis...can't even compete with a blue collar auto worker.

Based on the intention of that remark, you obviously think little of the
blue collar
auto worker you claim to defend. You are a total farce.


Notice that he never disputes the Dennis/Jim thing? Funny, him calling
someone else a farce. I'll bet he's neither Jim nor Dennis.

Maybe a wash out auto worker named Denice?



He's just another right-wing rectal fissure, full of pus.

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"NOYB" wrote in message
hlink.net...
Maybe he's Skipper?

Not a chance. This fluffer (I love that) makes Skippy look like a genius.

Couldn't hold down a job, eh?


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"NOYB" wrote in message news:8lsbb.21089
No wonder GM finds it hard to compete. I'm sure it has been
modernized
that plant over the years, but the age of the facility speaks
volumes
about what is wrong with the management of America's car
manufacturers.


No kidding. Management should have shut it down years ago in
favor
of
opening a more profitable non-union plant. I guess it took 68
years
of
"negotiations" with UAW to finally win concessions for closing the
place.

Please provide...

No. *You* prove I'm wrong.




No one has to. You're 30 years old and have led a sheltered life. What
the hell would you know about working at an auto plant, or, for that
matter, any other factory job?

What would *you* know about it? You peck away at a keyboard, and before
that a type-writer, writing "we hate management" slogans meant to incite
anger in people out there doing real work. You represent a group that
first
sparks the outrage, and then reaps the benefits in the form of union
dues.
That makes you a low-life, exploitive, flim flam man...who's ****ed you
couldn't pass "p-chem" so that you could have pursued a "real"
profession.
Your failed miserable life, combined with extreme Narcissistic
Personality
Disorder, make you a time bomb ready to go off when it becomes apparent
that
your entire life's "work" has gone for naught. Pretty sad...


I've had both factory and construction jobs, little boy.

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NOYB wrote:

Couldn't hold down a job, eh?


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"NOYB" wrote in message news:8lsbb.21089
No wonder GM finds it hard to compete. I'm sure it has been
modernized
that plant over the years, but the age of the facility speaks
volumes
about what is wrong with the management of America's car
manufacturers.


No kidding. Management should have shut it down years ago in
favor
of
opening a more profitable non-union plant. I guess it took 68
years
of
"negotiations" with UAW to finally win concessions for closing the
place.

Please provide...

No. *You* prove I'm wrong.




No one has to. You're 30 years old and have led a sheltered life. What
the hell would you know about working at an auto plant, or, for that
matter, any other factory job?

What would *you* know about it? You peck away at a keyboard, and before
that a type-writer, writing "we hate management" slogans meant to incite
anger in people out there doing real work. You represent a group that
first
sparks the outrage, and then reaps the benefits in the form of union
dues.
That makes you a low-life, exploitive, flim flam man...who's ****ed you
couldn't pass "p-chem" so that you could have pursued a "real"
profession.
Your failed miserable life, combined with extreme Narcissistic
Personality
Disorder, make you a time bomb ready to go off when it becomes apparent
that
your entire life's "work" has gone for naught. Pretty sad...


I've had both factory and construction jobs, little boy.

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Yeah, right. You see, I always wanted to be a dentist, because I have
this obsession with rotten teeth, bad breath, and inflicting dental pain.




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Harry,
Do you honest believe calling someone a fluffer has any content whatsoever.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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jps wrote:

"Jim -" wrote in message
et...

Poor Jim/Dennis...can't even compete with a blue collar auto worker.

Based on the intention of that remark, you obviously think little of
the
blue collar
auto worker you claim to defend. You are a total farce.


Notice that he never disputes the Dennis/Jim thing? Funny, him calling
someone else a farce. I'll bet he's neither Jim nor Dennis.

Maybe a wash out auto worker named Denice?



He's just another right-wing rectal fissure, full of pus.

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