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On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 20:10:03 -0500, W1TEF
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On Sun, 19 Dec 2010 21:57:05 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Dec 2010 19:57:42 -0500, BAR wrote:

http://www.independent.co.uk/environ...-just-a-thing-
of-the-past-724017.html


That article is 10 years old. THIS year, Europe has been clobbered
with snow....just as predicted by the global increase in
temperature....


If only there were some natural mechanism for explaining the warming
and cooling of the earth.

It would have to be unreasonably large, however -- on the scale of our
own sun.

Oh wait - yes there is!!!!

http://www.solarcycle24.com/pictures/spots.jpg

See Dalton Minimum for more information. :)


As I said, if you don't know the science, then you can't make an
informed judgment.
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On 12/20/10 8:44 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 20:10:03 -0500,
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Dec 2010 21:57:05 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Dec 2010 19:57:42 -0500, wrote:

http://www.independent.co.uk/environ...-just-a-thing-
of-the-past-724017.html

That article is 10 years old. THIS year, Europe has been clobbered
with snow....just as predicted by the global increase in
temperature....

If only there were some natural mechanism for explaining the warming
and cooling of the earth.

It would have to be unreasonably large, however -- on the scale of our
own sun.

Oh wait - yes there is!!!!

http://www.solarcycle24.com/pictures/spots.jpg

See Dalton Minimum for more information. :)


As I said, if you don't know the science, then you can't make an
informed judgment.


What if you know the science is fudged? I mean we have proof of that. On
the same hand, you don't have proof that my "faith" is fudged, yet you
are quick to dismiss that, it just doesn't add up really...


"We" have proof of that? "We"? Something you heard on Faux News?
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On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 21:31:53 -0500, Gene
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On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 20:44:40 -0500, I am Tosk
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In article ,
says...

On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 20:10:03 -0500, W1TEF
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Dec 2010 21:57:05 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Dec 2010 19:57:42 -0500, BAR wrote:

http://www.independent.co.uk/environ...-just-a-thing-
of-the-past-724017.html

That article is 10 years old. THIS year, Europe has been clobbered
with snow....just as predicted by the global increase in
temperature....

If only there were some natural mechanism for explaining the warming
and cooling of the earth.

It would have to be unreasonably large, however -- on the scale of our
own sun.

Oh wait - yes there is!!!!

http://www.solarcycle24.com/pictures/spots.jpg

See Dalton Minimum for more information. :)

As I said, if you don't know the science, then you can't make an
informed judgment.


What if you know the science is fudged? I mean we have proof of that. On
the same hand, you don't have proof that my "faith" is fudged, yet you
are quick to dismiss that, it just doesn't add up really...



Please cite......


Fox News Channel is likely his best cite.
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In article ,
says...

On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 21:31:53 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 20:44:40 -0500, I am Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 20:10:03 -0500, W1TEF
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Dec 2010 21:57:05 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Dec 2010 19:57:42 -0500, BAR wrote:

http://www.independent.co.uk/environ...-just-a-thing-
of-the-past-724017.html

That article is 10 years old. THIS year, Europe has been clobbered
with snow....just as predicted by the global increase in
temperature....

If only there were some natural mechanism for explaining the warming
and cooling of the earth.

It would have to be unreasonably large, however -- on the scale of our
own sun.

Oh wait - yes there is!!!!

http://www.solarcycle24.com/pictures/spots.jpg

See Dalton Minimum for more information. :)

As I said, if you don't know the science, then you can't make an
informed judgment.

What if you know the science is fudged? I mean we have proof of that. On
the same hand, you don't have proof that my "faith" is fudged, yet you
are quick to dismiss that, it just doesn't add up really...



Please cite......


Fox News Channel is likely his best cite.


Did you read Trenbath's hit piece in the latest issue of Science?


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On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 21:31:53 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 20:44:40 -0500, I am Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 20:10:03 -0500, W1TEF
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Dec 2010 21:57:05 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Dec 2010 19:57:42 -0500, BAR wrote:

http://www.independent.co.uk/environ...-just-a-thing-
of-the-past-724017.html

That article is 10 years old. THIS year, Europe has been clobbered
with snow....just as predicted by the global increase in
temperature....

If only there were some natural mechanism for explaining the warming
and cooling of the earth.

It would have to be unreasonably large, however -- on the scale of our
own sun.

Oh wait - yes there is!!!!

http://www.solarcycle24.com/pictures/spots.jpg

See Dalton Minimum for more information. :)

As I said, if you don't know the science, then you can't make an
informed judgment.


What if you know the science is fudged? I mean we have proof of that. On
the same hand, you don't have proof that my "faith" is fudged, yet you
are quick to dismiss that, it just doesn't add up really...



Please cite......


Oh he's talking about some stolen emails that really don't have much
to do with the overall conclusions.


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On 12/20/10 11:21 PM, I am Tosk wrote:


No, I am talking about the deliberate manipulation


Ahhh...Faux News at its best!

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On Tue, 21 Dec 2010 17:02:09 -0500, Harryk
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On 12/20/10 11:21 PM, I am Tosk wrote:


No, I am talking about the deliberate manipulation


Ahhh...Faux News at its best!


Golly, let's hope Snotty didn't witness Shep Smith dressing down the
Republicans for holding up the 911 bill.

It might've caused a spontaneous cranial implosion.
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On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 21:47:10 -0500, Short Wave Sportfishing
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On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 17:38:19 -0800, wrote:

On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 20:10:03 -0500, W1TEF
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Dec 2010 21:57:05 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Dec 2010 19:57:42 -0500, BAR wrote:

http://www.independent.co.uk/environ...-just-a-thing-
of-the-past-724017.html

That article is 10 years old. THIS year, Europe has been clobbered
with snow....just as predicted by the global increase in
temperature....

If only there were some natural mechanism for explaining the warming
and cooling of the earth.

It would have to be unreasonably large, however -- on the scale of our
own sun.

Oh wait - yes there is!!!!

http://www.solarcycle24.com/pictures/spots.jpg

See Dalton Minimum for more information. :)


As I said, if you don't know the science, then you can't make an
informed judgment.


You know what I find highly amusing?

Idiots like you who don't understand that the largest source of energy
that affects our planet on a day-to-day basis - the Sun - has more to
do with weather and climate than anthropogenic hocus pocus, flim flam
zam.

It must be voo doo that events like the Oort Minimum (1010 - 1080),
Wolf Minimum (1280 - 1350), Sporer Minimum (1450 - 1540), Maunder
Minimum (1645-1715), Dalton Minimum (1790 - 1820) just happened to
coincidentally occur when there were cold periods in our climate. Must
be voo doo that the Medieval Maximum (1100 - 1250) happened to be a
huge warm period. Must not be that Earth is on the down slope of a
Modern Maximum and heading into a secondary Dalton Minimum.

An atmospheric carbon cycle that coincides with these solar events is
all fake science right? Only deniers believe in faked fudged facts
and make **** up right?

Speaking of making **** up - what's the latest on the good old "hockey
stick" theory? How about all those penguins who drowned when all the
ice melted in the Arctic? And what ever happened to the CCX - the
Chicago Carbon Exchange? Is that even still around?

Back to the point - solar science and it's effect on our atmosphere,
climate and weather is bull**** right? No science there. I mean, I
can understand your view point - the sun is a bizillion gazillion
miles from Earth - can't have a freakin' thing to do with Earth's
weather. Things like solar flux, magnetic density around the Earth -
it's all hore**** - real science depends on politics and sound
reasoning right?

Do me a favor - bend over, stick your head between your legs and check
out check out the view - it's proably the South bound end of a North
bound horse.


Whew.. somebody sure is angry they didn't spend more time studying in
high school...
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On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 21:47:10 -0500, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 17:38:19 -0800, wrote:

On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 20:10:03 -0500, W1TEF
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Dec 2010 21:57:05 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Dec 2010 19:57:42 -0500, BAR wrote:

http://www.independent.co.uk/environ...-just-a-thing-
of-the-past-724017.html

That article is 10 years old. THIS year, Europe has been clobbered
with snow....just as predicted by the global increase in
temperature....

If only there were some natural mechanism for explaining the warming
and cooling of the earth.

It would have to be unreasonably large, however -- on the scale of our
own sun.

Oh wait - yes there is!!!!

http://www.solarcycle24.com/pictures/spots.jpg

See Dalton Minimum for more information. :)


As I said, if you don't know the science, then you can't make an
informed judgment.


You know what I find highly amusing?

Idiots like you who don't understand that the largest source of energy
that affects our planet on a day-to-day basis - the Sun - has more to
do with weather and climate than anthropogenic hocus pocus, flim flam
zam.

It must be voo doo that events like the Oort Minimum (1010 - 1080),
Wolf Minimum (1280 - 1350), Sporer Minimum (1450 - 1540), Maunder
Minimum (1645-1715), Dalton Minimum (1790 - 1820) just happened to
coincidentally occur when there were cold periods in our climate. Must
be voo doo that the Medieval Maximum (1100 - 1250) happened to be a
huge warm period. Must not be that Earth is on the down slope of a
Modern Maximum and heading into a secondary Dalton Minimum.

An atmospheric carbon cycle that coincides with these solar events is
all fake science right? Only deniers believe in faked fudged facts
and make **** up right?

Speaking of making **** up - what's the latest on the good old "hockey
stick" theory? How about all those penguins who drowned when all the
ice melted in the Arctic? And what ever happened to the CCX - the
Chicago Carbon Exchange? Is that even still around?

Back to the point - solar science and it's effect on our atmosphere,
climate and weather is bull**** right? No science there. I mean, I
can understand your view point - the sun is a bizillion gazillion
miles from Earth - can't have a freakin' thing to do with Earth's
weather. Things like solar flux, magnetic density around the Earth -
it's all hore**** - real science depends on politics and sound
reasoning right?

Do me a favor - bend over, stick your head between your legs and check
out check out the view - it's proably the South bound end of a North
bound horse.


And your take should therefore eclipse the majority of scientists on
the planet. Trained scientists who live and breathe the scientific
method. I know you're a smart guy but you're putting your solar
science theory up against the majority of working scientists who think
that man has a hand in the warming equation?

Really?


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