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Paul@BYC November 1st 10 09:40 PM

Why so few boating related posts?
 
On 11/1/2010 4:10 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In , says...

On 11/1/10 4:05 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In articlevYydnRDXte6ZhlLRnZ2dnUVZ_hWdnZ2d@earthlink .com,
says...

On 11/1/10 3:45 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On 11/1/10 2:18 PM, YukonBound wrote:


wrote in message
...
On 11/1/10 1:32 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On 11/1/10 12:18 PM, jps wrote:
On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 10:26:40 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sat, 30 Oct 2010 18:35:32 -0400, I am Tosk
wrote:

In ,
says...

On Sat, 30 Oct 2010 17:42:38 -0400, Secular Humouresque
wrote:

On 10/30/10 5:37 PM, Gene wrote:
On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 16:53:35 -0400, "Paul@BYC"
wrote:

I know the season is ending.

What do you do with your boat(s) over the winter if you are
not in the
southern climes?

I store my old classic in a shed. My newer boat spends the
winter on the
hard in a nearby boatyard, in a cradle the previous owner had
built for
her. The cradle has an A-frame that can be erected to support
a couple
of tarps.

The old boat has a simple inboard marine engine that's easy
enough to
service. The newer boat has a pair of diesels that i have an
outside
contractor service. I take the batteries home.

Looks like it is a little better than it was at the end of the
year.... what I find striking is how few posts and posters....
and
the absence of most of those that were here a few years ago.



We have a goodly number of posters here who either have no
interest in
boating or very little interest in boating, and are here *only*
to stir
up crap against posters they don't like. Whatever excuses they
offer up
for their behavior, the fact remains that they and they alone are
responsible for how they behave.

That's the reality of rec.boats, Gene.

Well, it certainly seems that I haven't missed a lot in the last 11
months..... though it *is* a little better than it was the last
time I
checked in.... July 4th weekend.

I still hate the web groups, but they *are* moderated.... and I do
get useful information and advice...

How've you been? What's this I read about a new boat? You didn't
keep
Yo-Ho long!

It started about a week ago... me and Harry got on board, that
made it a
lot easier. The spoofers have outlived their usefulness and when
we had
the opportunity we all remembered why we came here in the first
place,
adn here we are about a week later with a fairly stable base to
work our
way back from... Glad to have you back.. Big hugs from Scottysnerk

Looks like I checked in at the right time. It still was crap here in
July.

Hope things stay on track....

"me and Harry got on board, that made it a lot eaisier."

yikes.



The ID spoofers are active again...this newsgroup is not on track and
will never be.

It's just the one... Just hold fire, and use your kill file.



That's what the ID spoofer wants...to "killfile" HarryK or any other
ID I use. Surely you understand that, right?

The game seems to be to try and marginalize you. If everyone filters the
spoofers each time they act up, your voice is effectively silenced in
this newsgroup.
Quite the little conspiracy!


That is their game.

I don't see why Don cares, he is still stirring up the pot and name
calling... Either way, since you guys keep harping on it, I have an
opinion on the spoofers too. They indeed were here to marginalize one
poster, that is a fact, I do know the original spoofer quite well but he
only spoofed for a day or two and was replaced by a much more prolific
poster. I get the impression he was happy to step aside and watch...
Quite frankly, maybe with the delicate touch of an Atomic Bomb, after
all was said and done, it worked. Yes there was some collateral damage,
and like any battle the "battle plan" went out the window on day one,
but in the end, it worked. I have serious doubts that the target would
be on board with the new policies of the oh so wise Great Sage of Zoar
if he and/or his audience wasn't getting smashed into nonexistence by
the spoofers... Just my opinion, since you all are posting yours, over
and over again.

Me? I'm just happy we got the group back with the exception of a couple
who just can't help but troll.. It's the best it's been in nearly a
decade. Buck up kids, talk about something fun before I have to post
more motorcycle stuff....



One of my nephews started a mid-level job with a federal agency a few
months ago in the area of computer security, specifically cryptology. I
have no idea what he does for a living now, even if he explained it to
me. What we both know, though, is that I paid for about half his college
expenses through the master's degree he got last May. I do believe,
though, that "resolving" usenet IDs and finding out the actual names of
spoofers would be something he could do while comatose.

I've been toying with the idea of asking him to do so with a couple of
the spoofers here, just for grins, of course. I wouldn't do anything
with the information.

Oh...the "original spoofer" was Tom. The more prolific poster is flajim.

no... I was the original spoofer.. About ten posts over three days then
I was pushed out of the way so I sat back and watched from that point
on.


So, *you* started the mess, eh? Cute.


Clean slate, right?


I'm really sorry to see this, Tosk. It just reinforces my earlier
statement today regarding tuning out this newsgroup.

YukonBound November 1st 10 10:18 PM

Why so few boating related posts?
 


"I am Tosk" wrote in message
...
In article , says...

On 11/1/10 4:05 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In articlevYydnRDXte6ZhlLRnZ2dnUVZ_hWdnZ2d@earthlink .com,
says...

On 11/1/10 3:45 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On 11/1/10 2:18 PM, YukonBound wrote:


wrote in message
...
On 11/1/10 1:32 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,

says...

On 11/1/10 12:18 PM, jps wrote:
On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 10:26:40 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sat, 30 Oct 2010 18:35:32 -0400, I am Tosk
wrote:

In ,
says...

On Sat, 30 Oct 2010 17:42:38 -0400, Secular Humouresque
wrote:

On 10/30/10 5:37 PM, Gene wrote:
On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 16:53:35 -0400, "Paul@BYC"
wrote:

I know the season is ending.

What do you do with your boat(s) over the winter if you
are
not in the
southern climes?

I store my old classic in a shed. My newer boat spends
the
winter on the
hard in a nearby boatyard, in a cradle the previous owner
had
built for
her. The cradle has an A-frame that can be erected to
support
a couple
of tarps.

The old boat has a simple inboard marine engine that's
easy
enough to
service. The newer boat has a pair of diesels that i have
an
outside
contractor service. I take the batteries home.

Looks like it is a little better than it was at the end of
the
year.... what I find striking is how few posts and
posters....
and
the absence of most of those that were here a few years
ago.



We have a goodly number of posters here who either have no
interest in
boating or very little interest in boating, and are here
*only*
to stir
up crap against posters they don't like. Whatever excuses
they
offer up
for their behavior, the fact remains that they and they
alone are
responsible for how they behave.

That's the reality of rec.boats, Gene.

Well, it certainly seems that I haven't missed a lot in the
last 11
months..... though it *is* a little better than it was the
last
time I
checked in.... July 4th weekend.

I still hate the web groups, but they *are* moderated....
and I do
get useful information and advice...

How've you been? What's this I read about a new boat? You
didn't
keep
Yo-Ho long!

It started about a week ago... me and Harry got on board,
that
made it a
lot easier. The spoofers have outlived their usefulness and
when
we had
the opportunity we all remembered why we came here in the
first
place,
adn here we are about a week later with a fairly stable base
to
work our
way back from... Glad to have you back.. Big hugs from
Scottysnerk

Looks like I checked in at the right time. It still was crap
here in
July.

Hope things stay on track....

"me and Harry got on board, that made it a lot eaisier."

yikes.



The ID spoofers are active again...this newsgroup is not on
track and
will never be.

It's just the one... Just hold fire, and use your kill file.



That's what the ID spoofer wants...to "killfile" HarryK or any
other
ID I use. Surely you understand that, right?

The game seems to be to try and marginalize you. If everyone
filters the
spoofers each time they act up, your voice is effectively silenced
in
this newsgroup.
Quite the little conspiracy!


That is their game.

I don't see why Don cares, he is still stirring up the pot and name
calling... Either way, since you guys keep harping on it, I have an
opinion on the spoofers too. They indeed were here to marginalize one
poster, that is a fact, I do know the original spoofer quite well but
he
only spoofed for a day or two and was replaced by a much more
prolific
poster. I get the impression he was happy to step aside and watch...
Quite frankly, maybe with the delicate touch of an Atomic Bomb, after
all was said and done, it worked. Yes there was some collateral
damage,
and like any battle the "battle plan" went out the window on day one,
but in the end, it worked. I have serious doubts that the target
would
be on board with the new policies of the oh so wise Great Sage of
Zoar
if he and/or his audience wasn't getting smashed into nonexistence by
the spoofers... Just my opinion, since you all are posting yours,
over
and over again.

Me? I'm just happy we got the group back with the exception of a
couple
who just can't help but troll.. It's the best it's been in nearly a
decade. Buck up kids, talk about something fun before I have to post
more motorcycle stuff....



One of my nephews started a mid-level job with a federal agency a few
months ago in the area of computer security, specifically cryptology.
I
have no idea what he does for a living now, even if he explained it to
me. What we both know, though, is that I paid for about half his
college
expenses through the master's degree he got last May. I do believe,
though, that "resolving" usenet IDs and finding out the actual names
of
spoofers would be something he could do while comatose.

I've been toying with the idea of asking him to do so with a couple of
the spoofers here, just for grins, of course. I wouldn't do anything
with the information.

Oh...the "original spoofer" was Tom. The more prolific poster is
flajim.

no... I was the original spoofer.. About ten posts over three days then
I was pushed out of the way so I sat back and watched from that point
on.


So, *you* started the mess, eh? Cute.


Clean slate, right?

--


"Clean slate"??
Your activities could be viewed as a war crime.


HarryK November 1st 10 11:05 PM

Why so few boating related posts?
 
On 11/1/2010 2:18 PM, YukonBound wrote:


"HarryK" wrote in message
...
On 11/1/10 1:32 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In , says...

On 11/1/10 12:18 PM, jps wrote:
On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 10:26:40 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sat, 30 Oct 2010 18:35:32 -0400, I am Tosk
wrote:

In ,
says...

On Sat, 30 Oct 2010 17:42:38 -0400, Secular Humouresque
wrote:

On 10/30/10 5:37 PM, Gene wrote:
On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 16:53:35 -0400, "Paul@BYC"
wrote:

I know the season is ending.

What do you do with your boat(s) over the winter if you are
not in the
southern climes?

I store my old classic in a shed. My newer boat spends the
winter on the
hard in a nearby boatyard, in a cradle the previous owner had
built for
her. The cradle has an A-frame that can be erected to support
a couple
of tarps.

The old boat has a simple inboard marine engine that's easy
enough to
service. The newer boat has a pair of diesels that i have an
outside
contractor service. I take the batteries home.

Looks like it is a little better than it was at the end of the
year.... what I find striking is how few posts and posters....
and
the absence of most of those that were here a few years ago.



We have a goodly number of posters here who either have no
interest in
boating or very little interest in boating, and are here *only*
to stir
up crap against posters they don't like. Whatever excuses they
offer up
for their behavior, the fact remains that they and they alone are
responsible for how they behave.

That's the reality of rec.boats, Gene.

Well, it certainly seems that I haven't missed a lot in the last 11
months..... though it *is* a little better than it was the last
time I
checked in.... July 4th weekend.

I still hate the web groups, but they *are* moderated.... and I do
get useful information and advice...

How've you been? What's this I read about a new boat? You didn't
keep
Yo-Ho long!

It started about a week ago... me and Harry got on board, that
made it a
lot easier. The spoofers have outlived their usefulness and when
we had
the opportunity we all remembered why we came here in the first
place,
adn here we are about a week later with a fairly stable base to
work our
way back from... Glad to have you back.. Big hugs from Scottysnerk

Looks like I checked in at the right time. It still was crap here in
July.

Hope things stay on track....

"me and Harry got on board, that made it a lot eaisier."

yikes.



The ID spoofers are active again...this newsgroup is not on track and
will never be.

It's just the one... Just hold fire, and use your kill file.



That's what the ID spoofer wants...to "killfile" HarryK or any other
ID I use. Surely you understand that, right?


The game seems to be to try and marginalize you. If everyone filters the
spoofers each time they act up, your voice is effectively silenced in
this newsgroup.
Quite the little conspiracy!


I will never be silenced, Don. You should know that by now.

HarryK November 1st 10 11:09 PM

Why so few boating related posts?
 
On 11/1/2010 3:54 PM, HarryK wrote:
On 11/1/10 3:45 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In , says...

On 11/1/10 2:18 PM, YukonBound wrote:


wrote in message
...
On 11/1/10 1:32 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On 11/1/10 12:18 PM, jps wrote:
On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 10:26:40 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sat, 30 Oct 2010 18:35:32 -0400, I am Tosk
wrote:

In ,
says...

On Sat, 30 Oct 2010 17:42:38 -0400, Secular Humouresque
wrote:

On 10/30/10 5:37 PM, Gene wrote:
On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 16:53:35 -0400, "Paul@BYC"
wrote:

I know the season is ending.

What do you do with your boat(s) over the winter if you are
not in the
southern climes?

I store my old classic in a shed. My newer boat spends the
winter on the
hard in a nearby boatyard, in a cradle the previous owner had
built for
her. The cradle has an A-frame that can be erected to support
a couple
of tarps.

The old boat has a simple inboard marine engine that's easy
enough to
service. The newer boat has a pair of diesels that i have an
outside
contractor service. I take the batteries home.

Looks like it is a little better than it was at the end of the
year.... what I find striking is how few posts and posters....
and
the absence of most of those that were here a few years ago.



We have a goodly number of posters here who either have no
interest in
boating or very little interest in boating, and are here *only*
to stir
up crap against posters they don't like. Whatever excuses they
offer up
for their behavior, the fact remains that they and they
alone are
responsible for how they behave.

That's the reality of rec.boats, Gene.

Well, it certainly seems that I haven't missed a lot in the
last 11
months..... though it *is* a little better than it was the last
time I
checked in.... July 4th weekend.

I still hate the web groups, but they *are* moderated.... and
I do
get useful information and advice...

How've you been? What's this I read about a new boat? You didn't
keep
Yo-Ho long!

It started about a week ago... me and Harry got on board, that
made it a
lot easier. The spoofers have outlived their usefulness and when
we had
the opportunity we all remembered why we came here in the first
place,
adn here we are about a week later with a fairly stable base to
work our
way back from... Glad to have you back.. Big hugs from
Scottysnerk

Looks like I checked in at the right time. It still was crap
here in
July.

Hope things stay on track....

"me and Harry got on board, that made it a lot eaisier."

yikes.



The ID spoofers are active again...this newsgroup is not on track
and
will never be.

It's just the one... Just hold fire, and use your kill file.



That's what the ID spoofer wants...to "killfile" HarryK or any other
ID I use. Surely you understand that, right?

The game seems to be to try and marginalize you. If everyone filters
the
spoofers each time they act up, your voice is effectively silenced in
this newsgroup.
Quite the little conspiracy!


That is their game.


I don't see why Don cares, he is still stirring up the pot and name
calling... Either way, since you guys keep harping on it, I have an
opinion on the spoofers too. They indeed were here to marginalize one
poster, that is a fact, I do know the original spoofer quite well but he
only spoofed for a day or two and was replaced by a much more prolific
poster. I get the impression he was happy to step aside and watch...
Quite frankly, maybe with the delicate touch of an Atomic Bomb, after
all was said and done, it worked. Yes there was some collateral damage,
and like any battle the "battle plan" went out the window on day one,
but in the end, it worked. I have serious doubts that the target would
be on board with the new policies of the oh so wise Great Sage of Zoar
if he and/or his audience wasn't getting smashed into nonexistence by
the spoofers... Just my opinion, since you all are posting yours, over
and over again.

Me? I'm just happy we got the group back with the exception of a couple
who just can't help but troll.. It's the best it's been in nearly a
decade. Buck up kids, talk about something fun before I have to post
more motorcycle stuff....



One of my nephews started a mid-level job with a federal agency a few
months ago in the area of computer security, specifically cryptology. I
have no idea what he does for a living now, even if he explained it to
me. What we both know, though, is that I paid for about half his college
expenses through the master's degree he got last May. I do believe,
though, that "resolving" usenet IDs and finding out the actual names of
spoofers would be something he could do while comatose.

I've been toying with the idea of asking him to do so with a couple of
the spoofers here, just for grins, of course. I wouldn't do anything
with the information.

Oh...the "original spoofer" was Tom. The more prolific poster is flajim.


Of course, I don't wamt to appear as a total ass. So I'll admit I did
some ID spoofing also.

HarryK November 1st 10 11:10 PM

Why so few boating related posts?
 
On 11/1/2010 5:40 PM, Paul@BYC wrote:
On 11/1/2010 4:10 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In , says...

On 11/1/10 4:05 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In articlevYydnRDXte6ZhlLRnZ2dnUVZ_hWdnZ2d@earthlink .com,
says...

On 11/1/10 3:45 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On 11/1/10 2:18 PM, YukonBound wrote:


wrote in message
...
On 11/1/10 1:32 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,

says...

On 11/1/10 12:18 PM, jps wrote:
On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 10:26:40 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sat, 30 Oct 2010 18:35:32 -0400, I am Tosk
wrote:

In ,
says...

On Sat, 30 Oct 2010 17:42:38 -0400, Secular Humouresque
wrote:

On 10/30/10 5:37 PM, Gene wrote:
On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 16:53:35 -0400, "Paul@BYC"
wrote:

I know the season is ending.

What do you do with your boat(s) over the winter if
you are
not in the
southern climes?

I store my old classic in a shed. My newer boat spends
the
winter on the
hard in a nearby boatyard, in a cradle the previous
owner had
built for
her. The cradle has an A-frame that can be erected to
support
a couple
of tarps.

The old boat has a simple inboard marine engine that's
easy
enough to
service. The newer boat has a pair of diesels that i
have an
outside
contractor service. I take the batteries home.

Looks like it is a little better than it was at the end
of the
year.... what I find striking is how few posts and
posters....
and
the absence of most of those that were here a few years
ago.



We have a goodly number of posters here who either have no
interest in
boating or very little interest in boating, and are here
*only*
to stir
up crap against posters they don't like. Whatever
excuses they
offer up
for their behavior, the fact remains that they and they
alone are
responsible for how they behave.

That's the reality of rec.boats, Gene.

Well, it certainly seems that I haven't missed a lot in
the last 11
months..... though it *is* a little better than it was
the last
time I
checked in.... July 4th weekend.

I still hate the web groups, but they *are* moderated....
and I do
get useful information and advice...

How've you been? What's this I read about a new boat? You
didn't
keep
Yo-Ho long!

It started about a week ago... me and Harry got on board,
that
made it a
lot easier. The spoofers have outlived their usefulness
and when
we had
the opportunity we all remembered why we came here in the
first
place,
adn here we are about a week later with a fairly stable
base to
work our
way back from... Glad to have you back.. Big hugs from
Scottysnerk

Looks like I checked in at the right time. It still was
crap here in
July.

Hope things stay on track....

"me and Harry got on board, that made it a lot eaisier."

yikes.



The ID spoofers are active again...this newsgroup is not on
track and
will never be.

It's just the one... Just hold fire, and use your kill file.



That's what the ID spoofer wants...to "killfile" HarryK or any
other
ID I use. Surely you understand that, right?

The game seems to be to try and marginalize you. If everyone
filters the
spoofers each time they act up, your voice is effectively
silenced in
this newsgroup.
Quite the little conspiracy!


That is their game.

I don't see why Don cares, he is still stirring up the pot and name
calling... Either way, since you guys keep harping on it, I have an
opinion on the spoofers too. They indeed were here to marginalize one
poster, that is a fact, I do know the original spoofer quite well
but he
only spoofed for a day or two and was replaced by a much more
prolific
poster. I get the impression he was happy to step aside and watch...
Quite frankly, maybe with the delicate touch of an Atomic Bomb, after
all was said and done, it worked. Yes there was some collateral
damage,
and like any battle the "battle plan" went out the window on day one,
but in the end, it worked. I have serious doubts that the target
would
be on board with the new policies of the oh so wise Great Sage of
Zoar
if he and/or his audience wasn't getting smashed into nonexistence by
the spoofers... Just my opinion, since you all are posting yours,
over
and over again.

Me? I'm just happy we got the group back with the exception of a
couple
who just can't help but troll.. It's the best it's been in nearly a
decade. Buck up kids, talk about something fun before I have to post
more motorcycle stuff....



One of my nephews started a mid-level job with a federal agency a few
months ago in the area of computer security, specifically
cryptology. I
have no idea what he does for a living now, even if he explained it to
me. What we both know, though, is that I paid for about half his
college
expenses through the master's degree he got last May. I do believe,
though, that "resolving" usenet IDs and finding out the actual
names of
spoofers would be something he could do while comatose.

I've been toying with the idea of asking him to do so with a couple of
the spoofers here, just for grins, of course. I wouldn't do anything
with the information.

Oh...the "original spoofer" was Tom. The more prolific poster is
flajim.

no... I was the original spoofer.. About ten posts over three days then
I was pushed out of the way so I sat back and watched from that point
on.


So, *you* started the mess, eh? Cute.


Clean slate, right?


I'm really sorry to see this, Tosk. It just reinforces my earlier
statement today regarding tuning out this newsgroup.


You *really* thought this was going to last?

JustWaitAFrekinMinute! November 1st 10 11:18 PM

Why so few boating related posts?
 
On Nov 1, 7:10*pm, HarryK wrote:
On 11/1/2010 5:40 PM, Paul@BYC wrote:





On 11/1/2010 4:10 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In , says...


On 11/1/10 4:05 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In articlevYydnRDXte6ZhlLRnZ2dnUVZ_hWdn...@earthlink .com,
says...


On 11/1/10 3:45 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In , says....


On 11/1/10 2:18 PM, YukonBound wrote:


wrote in message
...
On 11/1/10 1:32 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...


On 11/1/10 12:18 PM, jps wrote:
On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 10:26:40 -0400, Gene
wrote:


On Sat, 30 Oct 2010 18:35:32 -0400, I am Tosk
wrote:


In ,
says...


On Sat, 30 Oct 2010 17:42:38 -0400, Secular Humouresque
wrote:


On 10/30/10 5:37 PM, Gene wrote:
On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 16:53:35 -0400, "Paul@BYC"
wrote:


I know the season is ending.


What do you do with your boat(s) over the winter if
you are
not in the
southern climes?


I store my old classic in a shed. My newer boat spends
the
winter on the
hard in a nearby boatyard, in a cradle the previous
owner had
built for
her. The cradle has an A-frame that can be erected to
support
a couple
of tarps.


The old boat has a simple inboard marine engine that's
easy
enough to
service. The newer boat has a pair of diesels that i
have an
outside
contractor service. I take the batteries home.


Looks like it is a little better than it was at the end
of the
year.... what I find striking is how few posts and
posters....
and
the absence of most of those that were here a few years
ago.


We have a goodly number of posters here who either have no
interest in
boating or very little interest in boating, and are here
*only*
to stir
up crap against posters they don't like. Whatever
excuses they
offer up
for their behavior, the fact remains that they and they
alone are
responsible for how they behave.


That's the reality of rec.boats, Gene.


Well, it certainly seems that I haven't missed a lot in
the last 11
months..... though it *is* a little better than it was
the last
time I
checked in.... July 4th weekend.


I still hate the web groups, but they *are* moderated....
and I do
get useful information and advice...


How've you been? What's this I read about a new boat? You
didn't
keep
Yo-Ho long!


It started about a week ago... me and Harry got on board,
that
made it a
lot easier. The spoofers have outlived their usefulness
and when
we had
the opportunity we all remembered why we came here in the
first
place,
adn here we are about a week later with a fairly stable
base to
work our
way back from... Glad to have you back.. Big hugs from
Scottysnerk


Looks like I checked in at the right time. It still was
crap here in
July.


Hope things stay on track....


"me and Harry got on board, that made it a lot eaisier."


yikes.


The ID spoofers are active again...this newsgroup is not on
track and
will never be.


It's just the one... Just hold fire, and use your kill file.


That's what the ID spoofer wants...to "killfile" HarryK or any
other
ID I use. Surely you understand that, right?


The game seems to be to try and marginalize you. If everyone
filters the
spoofers each time they act up, your voice is effectively
silenced in
this newsgroup.
Quite the little conspiracy!


That is their game.


I don't see why Don cares, he is still stirring up the pot and name
calling... Either way, since you guys keep harping on it, I have an
opinion on the spoofers too. They indeed were here to marginalize one
poster, that is a fact, I do know the original spoofer quite well
but he
only spoofed for a day or two and was replaced by a much more
prolific
poster. I get the impression he was happy to step aside and watch....
Quite frankly, maybe with the delicate touch of an Atomic Bomb, after
all was said and done, it worked. Yes there was some collateral
damage,
and like any battle the "battle plan" went out the window on day one,
but in the end, it worked. I have serious doubts that the target
would
be on board with the new policies of the oh so wise Great Sage of
Zoar
if he and/or his audience wasn't getting smashed into nonexistence by
the spoofers... Just my opinion, since you all are posting yours,
over
and over again.


Me? I'm just happy we got the group back with the exception of a
couple
who just can't help but troll.. It's the best it's been in nearly a
decade. Buck up kids, talk about something fun before I have to post
more motorcycle stuff....


One of my nephews started a mid-level job with a federal agency a few
months ago in the area of computer security, specifically
cryptology. I
have no idea what he does for a living now, even if he explained it to
me. What we both know, though, is that I paid for about half his
college
expenses through the master's degree he got last May. I do believe,
though, that "resolving" usenet IDs and finding out the actual
names of
spoofers would be something he could do while comatose.


I've been toying with the idea of asking him to do so with a couple of
the spoofers here, just for grins, of course. I wouldn't do anything
with the information.


Oh...the "original spoofer" was Tom. The more prolific poster is
flajim.


no... I was the original spoofer.. About ten posts over three days then
I was pushed out of the way so I sat back and watched from that point
on.


So, *you* started the mess, eh? Cute.


Clean slate, right?


I'm really sorry to see this, Tosk. It just reinforces my earlier
statement today regarding tuning out this newsgroup.


You *really* thought this was going to last?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


What's the matter? Plonk the name callers and the spoofer, and
everything else is going pretty smoothly, unless you are looking for a
way out?

Paul@BYC November 2nd 10 12:11 AM

Why so few boating related posts?
 
On 11/1/2010 7:18 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote:
On Nov 1, 7:10 pm, wrote:
On 11/1/2010 5:40 PM, Paul@BYC wrote:





On 11/1/2010 4:10 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In , says...


On 11/1/10 4:05 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In articlevYydnRDXte6ZhlLRnZ2dnUVZ_hWdn...@earthlink .com,
says...


On 11/1/10 3:45 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In , says...


On 11/1/10 2:18 PM, YukonBound wrote:


wrote in message
...
On 11/1/10 1:32 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...


On 11/1/10 12:18 PM, jps wrote:
On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 10:26:40 -0400, Gene
wrote:


On Sat, 30 Oct 2010 18:35:32 -0400, I am Tosk
wrote:


In ,
says...


On Sat, 30 Oct 2010 17:42:38 -0400, Secular Humouresque
wrote:


On 10/30/10 5:37 PM, Gene wrote:
On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 16:53:35 -0400, "Paul@BYC"
wrote:


I know the season is ending.


What do you do with your boat(s) over the winter if
you are
not in the
southern climes?


I store my old classic in a shed. My newer boat spends
the
winter on the
hard in a nearby boatyard, in a cradle the previous
owner had
built for
her. The cradle has an A-frame that can be erected to
support
a couple
of tarps.


The old boat has a simple inboard marine engine that's
easy
enough to
service. The newer boat has a pair of diesels that i
have an
outside
contractor service. I take the batteries home.


Looks like it is a little better than it was at the end
of the
year.... what I find striking is how few posts and
posters....
and
the absence of most of those that were here a few years
ago.


We have a goodly number of posters here who either have no
interest in
boating or very little interest in boating, and are here
*only*
to stir
up crap against posters they don't like. Whatever
excuses they
offer up
for their behavior, the fact remains that they and they
alone are
responsible for how they behave.


That's the reality of rec.boats, Gene.


Well, it certainly seems that I haven't missed a lot in
the last 11
months..... though it *is* a little better than it was
the last
time I
checked in.... July 4th weekend.


I still hate the web groups, but they *are* moderated....
and I do
get useful information and advice...


How've you been? What's this I read about a new boat? You
didn't
keep
Yo-Ho long!


It started about a week ago... me and Harry got on board,
that
made it a
lot easier. The spoofers have outlived their usefulness
and when
we had
the opportunity we all remembered why we came here in the
first
place,
adn here we are about a week later with a fairly stable
base to
work our
way back from... Glad to have you back.. Big hugs from
Scottysnerk


Looks like I checked in at the right time. It still was
crap here in
July.


Hope things stay on track....


"me and Harry got on board, that made it a lot eaisier."


yikes.


The ID spoofers are active again...this newsgroup is not on
track and
will never be.


It's just the one... Just hold fire, and use your kill file.


That's what the ID spoofer wants...to "killfile" HarryK or any
other
ID I use. Surely you understand that, right?


The game seems to be to try and marginalize you. If everyone
filters the
spoofers each time they act up, your voice is effectively
silenced in
this newsgroup.
Quite the little conspiracy!


That is their game.


I don't see why Don cares, he is still stirring up the pot and name
calling... Either way, since you guys keep harping on it, I have an
opinion on the spoofers too. They indeed were here to marginalize one
poster, that is a fact, I do know the original spoofer quite well
but he
only spoofed for a day or two and was replaced by a much more
prolific
poster. I get the impression he was happy to step aside and watch...
Quite frankly, maybe with the delicate touch of an Atomic Bomb, after
all was said and done, it worked. Yes there was some collateral
damage,
and like any battle the "battle plan" went out the window on day one,
but in the end, it worked. I have serious doubts that the target
would
be on board with the new policies of the oh so wise Great Sage of
Zoar
if he and/or his audience wasn't getting smashed into nonexistence by
the spoofers... Just my opinion, since you all are posting yours,
over
and over again.


Me? I'm just happy we got the group back with the exception of a
couple
who just can't help but troll.. It's the best it's been in nearly a
decade. Buck up kids, talk about something fun before I have to post
more motorcycle stuff....


One of my nephews started a mid-level job with a federal agency a few
months ago in the area of computer security, specifically
cryptology. I
have no idea what he does for a living now, even if he explained it to
me. What we both know, though, is that I paid for about half his
college
expenses through the master's degree he got last May. I do believe,
though, that "resolving" usenet IDs and finding out the actual
names of
spoofers would be something he could do while comatose.


I've been toying with the idea of asking him to do so with a couple of
the spoofers here, just for grins, of course. I wouldn't do anything
with the information.


Oh...the "original spoofer" was Tom. The more prolific poster is
flajim.


no... I was the original spoofer.. About ten posts over three days then
I was pushed out of the way so I sat back and watched from that point
on.


So, *you* started the mess, eh? Cute.


Clean slate, right?


I'm really sorry to see this, Tosk. It just reinforces my earlier
statement today regarding tuning out this newsgroup.


You *really* thought this was going to last?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


What's the matter? Plonk the name callers and the spoofer, and
everything else is going pretty smoothly, unless you are looking for a
way out?



Your inheritor, the ID Spoofer who followed in your footsteps, is now ID
spoofing HarryK's ID again.

You started this, you said. Now you see where it has led.



Paul@BYC November 2nd 10 01:12 AM

Why so few boating related posts?
 
On 11/1/2010 8:22 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On 11/1/2010 7:18 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote:
On Nov 1, 7:10 pm, wrote:
On 11/1/2010 5:40 PM, Paul@BYC wrote:





On 11/1/2010 4:10 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In , says...

On 11/1/10 4:05 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In articlevYydnRDXte6ZhlLRnZ2dnUVZ_hWdn...@earthlink .com,
says...

On 11/1/10 3:45 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In , says...

On 11/1/10 2:18 PM, YukonBound wrote:

wrote in message
...
On 11/1/10 1:32 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On 11/1/10 12:18 PM, jps wrote:
On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 10:26:40 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sat, 30 Oct 2010 18:35:32 -0400, I am Tosk
wrote:

In ,
says...

On Sat, 30 Oct 2010 17:42:38 -0400, Secular Humouresque
wrote:

On 10/30/10 5:37 PM, Gene wrote:
On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 16:53:35 -0400, "Paul@BYC"
wrote:

I know the season is ending.

What do you do with your boat(s) over the winter if
you are
not in the
southern climes?

I store my old classic in a shed. My newer boat spends
the
winter on the
hard in a nearby boatyard, in a cradle the previous
owner had
built for
her. The cradle has an A-frame that can be erected to
support
a couple
of tarps.

The old boat has a simple inboard marine engine that's
easy
enough to
service. The newer boat has a pair of diesels that i
have an
outside
contractor service. I take the batteries home.

Looks like it is a little better than it was at the end
of the
year.... what I find striking is how few posts and
posters....
and
the absence of most of those that were here a few years
ago.

We have a goodly number of posters here who either have no
interest in
boating or very little interest in boating, and are here
*only*
to stir
up crap against posters they don't like. Whatever
excuses they
offer up
for their behavior, the fact remains that they and they
alone are
responsible for how they behave.

That's the reality of rec.boats, Gene.

Well, it certainly seems that I haven't missed a lot in
the last 11
months..... though it *is* a little better than it was
the last
time I
checked in.... July 4th weekend.

I still hate the web groups, but they *are* moderated....
and I do
get useful information and advice...

How've you been? What's this I read about a new boat? You
didn't
keep
Yo-Ho long!

It started about a week ago... me and Harry got on board,
that
made it a
lot easier. The spoofers have outlived their usefulness
and when
we had
the opportunity we all remembered why we came here in the
first
place,
adn here we are about a week later with a fairly stable
base to
work our
way back from... Glad to have you back.. Big hugs from
Scottysnerk

Looks like I checked in at the right time. It still was
crap here in
July.

Hope things stay on track....

"me and Harry got on board, that made it a lot eaisier."

yikes.

The ID spoofers are active again...this newsgroup is not on
track and
will never be.

It's just the one... Just hold fire, and use your kill file.

That's what the ID spoofer wants...to "killfile" HarryK or any
other
ID I use. Surely you understand that, right?

The game seems to be to try and marginalize you. If everyone
filters the
spoofers each time they act up, your voice is effectively
silenced in
this newsgroup.
Quite the little conspiracy!

That is their game.

I don't see why Don cares, he is still stirring up the pot and name
calling... Either way, since you guys keep harping on it, I have an
opinion on the spoofers too. They indeed were here to marginalize one
poster, that is a fact, I do know the original spoofer quite well
but he
only spoofed for a day or two and was replaced by a much more
prolific
poster. I get the impression he was happy to step aside and watch...
Quite frankly, maybe with the delicate touch of an Atomic Bomb, after
all was said and done, it worked. Yes there was some collateral
damage,
and like any battle the "battle plan" went out the window on day one,
but in the end, it worked. I have serious doubts that the target
would
be on board with the new policies of the oh so wise Great Sage of
Zoar
if he and/or his audience wasn't getting smashed into nonexistence by
the spoofers... Just my opinion, since you all are posting yours,
over
and over again.

Me? I'm just happy we got the group back with the exception of a
couple
who just can't help but troll.. It's the best it's been in nearly a
decade. Buck up kids, talk about something fun before I have to post
more motorcycle stuff....

One of my nephews started a mid-level job with a federal agency a few
months ago in the area of computer security, specifically
cryptology. I
have no idea what he does for a living now, even if he explained it to
me. What we both know, though, is that I paid for about half his
college
expenses through the master's degree he got last May. I do believe,
though, that "resolving" usenet IDs and finding out the actual
names of
spoofers would be something he could do while comatose.

I've been toying with the idea of asking him to do so with a couple of
the spoofers here, just for grins, of course. I wouldn't do anything
with the information.

Oh...the "original spoofer" was Tom. The more prolific poster is
flajim.

no... I was the original spoofer.. About ten posts over three days then
I was pushed out of the way so I sat back and watched from that point
on.

So, *you* started the mess, eh? Cute.

Clean slate, right?

I'm really sorry to see this, Tosk. It just reinforces my earlier
statement today regarding tuning out this newsgroup.

You *really* thought this was going to last?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

What's the matter? Plonk the name callers and the spoofer, and
everything else is going pretty smoothly, unless you are looking for a
way out?



Your inheritor, the ID Spoofer who followed in your footsteps, is now ID
spoofing HarryK's ID again.

You started this, you said. Now you see where it has led.


You are totally uninformed... We have tried to fill you in. Use me as a
scapegoat if you wish, but what I did was instrumental in getting us
here, period. Take it or leave it, we have all tried to fill you in, if
you won't/can't listen, not our problem anymore. Quit your crying and
post something interesting, or just go ahead and move along like you
keep threatening.. We have seen literally hundreds just like you over
the years, when you go, or go to the dark side, another will come in
your place. Personally, I hope you just buck up and post something...


Well, as a newbie, you didn't get me anywhere. I started reading this
newsgroup to learn more about boats, to share a hobby, et cetera. It
seems that what you did by starting the ID spoofing was give several
other posters the idea that it was "The Thing" to do.

It is fascinating how you refuse to take responsibility for a mess you
have had a heavy hand in creating by your own admission. If you were
sincere, you would do whatever was possible to convince the ID spoofers
and others who misbehave to stop.

Instead, you think a newsgroup that is filled with juvenile delinquents
has somehow evolved.

jps November 2nd 10 07:18 AM

Why so few boating related posts?
 
On Mon, 01 Nov 2010 14:34:11 -0400, HarryK wrote:

On 11/1/10 2:15 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote:
On Nov 1, 1:46 pm, wrote:
On 11/1/10 1:35 PM, I am Tosk wrote:





In , says...

On 11/1/10 12:42 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 01 Nov 2010 12:25:51 -0400, wrote:

The ID spoofers are active again...this newsgroup is not on track and
will never be.

That's too negative. A lot of progress has been made.

Not with the right-wing ID spoofers active.

Looks like the spoofer is going to win if you are going to start lashing
out with the political trolls again. This spoofer has nothing to do at
all with *ANY* of the conservative posters here, period.. Now if you are
just looking for an excuse to jump off, here you go...

How would you know the political leanings of the active ID spoofer(s)?

Virtually all of the ID spoofers who have been active here recently have
been on your side of the political spectrum. The exception was the one
many thought was Loogy.

I don't see a problem discussing a current problem here. There's no way
to resolve it, of course.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Besides, you are wrong.. Of the posters here who are still calling
names, JPS, Don, Plume, and Slammer all lean in your direction
politically... None of them are "righties".. so your obversations are
skewed.. BTW, I haven't seen you oppose any of them for continuing to
play the troll game, at the same time you are calling me out for not
attacking a spoofer???


It's easy to block posts from JPS, Don, Plume and Slammer, if that is
what you want to do, because they are not posting with the IDs of other
posters, as far as I know.


Uh oh, I'm a name-caller. Something to do with a spade I suppose.

HarryK November 2nd 10 10:32 AM

Why so few boating related posts?
 
On 11/2/10 3:18 AM, jps wrote:
On Mon, 01 Nov 2010 14:34:11 -0400, wrote:

On 11/1/10 2:15 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote:
On Nov 1, 1:46 pm, wrote:
On 11/1/10 1:35 PM, I am Tosk wrote:





In , says...

On 11/1/10 12:42 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 01 Nov 2010 12:25:51 -0400, wrote:

The ID spoofers are active again...this newsgroup is not on track and
will never be.

That's too negative. A lot of progress has been made.

Not with the right-wing ID spoofers active.

Looks like the spoofer is going to win if you are going to start lashing
out with the political trolls again. This spoofer has nothing to do at
all with *ANY* of the conservative posters here, period.. Now if you are
just looking for an excuse to jump off, here you go...

How would you know the political leanings of the active ID spoofer(s)?

Virtually all of the ID spoofers who have been active here recently have
been on your side of the political spectrum. The exception was the one
many thought was Loogy.

I don't see a problem discussing a current problem here. There's no way
to resolve it, of course.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Besides, you are wrong.. Of the posters here who are still calling
names, JPS, Don, Plume, and Slammer all lean in your direction
politically... None of them are "righties".. so your obversations are
skewed.. BTW, I haven't seen you oppose any of them for continuing to
play the troll game, at the same time you are calling me out for not
attacking a spoofer???


It's easy to block posts from JPS, Don, Plume and Slammer, if that is
what you want to do, because they are not posting with the IDs of other
posters, as far as I know.


Uh oh, I'm a name-caller. Something to do with a spade I suppose.



Tosk is working overtime to rationalize *his* bad behavior. He couldn't
control himself and he provided a bad example for others, and somehow
that is *your* fault. What's the matter, don't you get it? :)


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