On Oct 27, 9:41*pm, BAR wrote:
In article , hawaii-50
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On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 00:45:43 -0700, jps wrote:

On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 20:41:08 -0700, Eddie
wrote:

On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 07:48:39 -0400, John H
wrote:

After all y'all's comments about the 4WD, and the fact that I'm not too desirous
of a white truck, I went with this one:

http://tinyurl.com/2a7lejw

Hopefully they'll leave that page up for a few days.

I drove it home last night. It drives well. But, it's definitely in a bigger
league than the 4Runner.

Now if I can just find a nice place for the "Save the Bay" bumper sticker.

That's more than what I paid for my house!
ok, so that was back in 1976. *
Eddie

Ridiculous. *It'll be worth half that in two years.
Are you referring to the boat or to my house? *The car?, good, now I
feel better. *My house at one time was worth 18 times what I paid for
it. *It's now worth only about 12 times what I paid for it.
Wonder what the Chevy will be worth when it's 35 years old?
Eddie

It ain't a Corvette so it will be worth its weight in scrap.

Vettes arent worth their weight in scrap.

On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 13:03:06 -0700, Eddie
wrote:

On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 00:45:43 -0700, jps wrote:

On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 20:41:08 -0700, Eddie
wrote:

On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 07:48:39 -0400, John H
wrote:

After all y'all's comments about the 4WD, and the fact that I'm not too desirous
of a white truck, I went with this one:

http://tinyurl.com/2a7lejw

Hopefully they'll leave that page up for a few days.

I drove it home last night. It drives well. But, it's definitely in a bigger
league than the 4Runner.

Now if I can just find a nice place for the "Save the Bay" bumper sticker.

That's more than what I paid for my house!
ok, so that was back in 1976.
Eddie

Ridiculous. It'll be worth half that in two years.

Are you referring to the boat or to my house? The car?, good, now I
feel better. My house at one time was worth 18 times what I paid for
it. It's now worth only about 12 times what I paid for it.
Wonder what the Chevy will be worth when it's 35 years old?
Eddie

I was indeed referring to the Chevy. Any boat would maintain a higher
resale value than that truck.

On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 08:22:10 -0400, I am Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

After all y'all's comments about the 4WD, and the fact that I'm not too desirous
of a white truck, I went with this one:

http://tinyurl.com/2a7lejw

Hopefully they'll leave that page up for a few days.

I drove it home last night. It drives well. But, it's definitely in a bigger
league than the 4Runner.

Now if I can just find a nice place for the "Save the Bay" bumper sticker.

Nice lookin' truck John...Jealous me, I be...'

Thanks, Scotty. It'll be something my grandkids can fight over when I kick the
bucket.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

John H

On Nov 2, 5:27*pm, Gene wrote:
On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 07:48:39 -0400, John H
wrote:

After all y'all's comments about the 4WD, and the fact that I'm not too desirous
of a white truck, I went with this one:

http://tinyurl.com/2a7lejw

Hopefully they'll leave that page up for a few days.

I drove it home last night. It drives well. But, it's definitely in a bigger
league than the 4Runner.

Now if I can just find a nice place for the "Save the Bay" bumper sticker.

On Nov 2, 8:42*pm, Gene wrote:
On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 16:55:15 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:



On Nov 2, 5:27 pm, Gene wrote:
On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 07:48:39 -0400, John H
wrote:

After all y'all's comments about the 4WD, and the fact that I'm not too desirous
of a white truck, I went with this one:

http://tinyurl.com/2a7lejw

Hopefully they'll leave that page up for a few days.

I drove it home last night. It drives well. But, it's definitely in a bigger
league than the 4Runner.

Now if I can just find a nice place for the "Save the Bay" bumper sticker.

I, for one, would be very interested in frequent updates, opinions,
and squawks. I'm seriously considering a K2500 or K3500 dually for a
replacement for the current truck....

--
It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are
enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.
-Thomas Sowell

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
http://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net/boating/the_boat/my_boat.htm

Fort Agent 6.00 Build 1186

One problem with * dualies is that unless you're loaded with
something, they can be fairly worthless on snow, ice or even heavy
rain. *Too much flotation in the back end.

Of course, you might not have a problem w/that out on the east coast.

Never had a problem with that... the trick is narrow tires. Hugely
wide tires, the wider the better, make sense on sand, not so with the
Piedmont hard red clay and snow and ice....

--
It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are
enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.
*-Thomas Sowell

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
*http://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net/boating/the_boat/my_boat.htm

Fort Agent 6.00 Build 1186

Could be, Gene. i know of several guys ehre who have dualies who have
been stuck because mud caked up between the rims. Of course, if
you're in mud like that, then there's a lot of pilot error and
misjudgment, though.But where a normal 3/4 ton pickup would go, I
have witnessed people slipping and slithering around on snow with them.

On Tue, 02 Nov 2010 21:42:01 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 16:55:15 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Nov 2, 5:27*pm, Gene wrote:
On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 07:48:39 -0400, John H
wrote:

After all y'all's comments about the 4WD, and the fact that I'm not too desirous
of a white truck, I went with this one:

http://tinyurl.com/2a7lejw

Hopefully they'll leave that page up for a few days.

I drove it home last night. It drives well. But, it's definitely in a bigger
league than the 4Runner.

Now if I can just find a nice place for the "Save the Bay" bumper sticker.

I, for one, would be very interested in frequent updates, opinions,
and squawks. I'm seriously considering a K2500 or K3500 dually for a
replacement for the current truck....

--
It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are
enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.
*-Thomas Sowell

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
*http://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net/boating/the_boat/my_boat.htm

Forté Agent 6.00 Build 1186

One problem with dualies is that unless you're loaded with
something, they can be fairly worthless on snow, ice or even heavy
rain. Too much flotation in the back end.

Of course, you might not have a problem w/that out on the east coast.

Never had a problem with that... the trick is narrow tires. Hugely
wide tires, the wider the better, make sense on sand, not so with the
Piedmont hard red clay and snow and ice....

I've read that dualies cut down on your mileage significantly. Are you sure you
need 'em?
--

Hope you're having a great day!

John H

On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 21:27:12 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 20:10:39 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 02 Nov 2010 21:42:01 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 16:55:15 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Nov 2, 5:27*pm, Gene wrote:
On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 07:48:39 -0400, John H
wrote:

After all y'all's comments about the 4WD, and the fact that I'm not too desirous
of a white truck, I went with this one:

http://tinyurl.com/2a7lejw

Hopefully they'll leave that page up for a few days.

I drove it home last night. It drives well. But, it's definitely in a bigger
league than the 4Runner.

Now if I can just find a nice place for the "Save the Bay" bumper sticker.

I, for one, would be very interested in frequent updates, opinions,
and squawks. I'm seriously considering a K2500 or K3500 dually for a
replacement for the current truck....

--
It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are
enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.
*-Thomas Sowell

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
*http://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net/boating/the_boat/my_boat.htm

Forté Agent 6.00 Build 1186

One problem with dualies is that unless you're loaded with
something, they can be fairly worthless on snow, ice or even heavy
rain. Too much flotation in the back end.

Of course, you might not have a problem w/that out on the east coast.

Never had a problem with that... the trick is narrow tires. Hugely
wide tires, the wider the better, make sense on sand, not so with the
Piedmont hard red clay and snow and ice....

I've read that dualies cut down on your mileage significantly. Are you sure you
need 'em?

Probably not. I haven't found that they cut down on mileage, but they
are damn expensive to buy. They add a LOT of stability....

I'm really leaning toward super singles....

I'm not planning on any races down Splugen Pass, so I've not worried about the
stability. This pass, BTW, made my wife famous in our group of motorcyclists for
having done it on her motorcycle.

http://tinyurl.com/24xudu6
--

Hope you're having a great day!

John H

On Nov 4, 6:38*am, John H wrote:
On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 21:27:12 -0400, Gene
wrote:



On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 20:10:39 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 02 Nov 2010 21:42:01 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 16:55:15 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Nov 2, 5:27 pm, Gene wrote:
On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 07:48:39 -0400, John H
wrote:

After all y'all's comments about the 4WD, and the fact that I'm not too desirous
of a white truck, I went with this one:

http://tinyurl.com/2a7lejw

Hopefully they'll leave that page up for a few days.

I drove it home last night. It drives well. But, it's definitely in a bigger
league than the 4Runner.

Now if I can just find a nice place for the "Save the Bay" bumper sticker.

I, for one, would be very interested in frequent updates, opinions,
and squawks. I'm seriously considering a K2500 or K3500 dually for a
replacement for the current truck....

--
It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are
enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.
-Thomas Sowell

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
http://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net/boating/the_boat/my_boat.htm

Fort Agent 6.00 Build 1186

One problem with * dualies is that unless you're loaded with
something, they can be fairly worthless on snow, ice or even heavy
rain. *Too much flotation in the back end.

Of course, you might not have a problem w/that out on the east coast.

Never had a problem with that... the trick is narrow tires. Hugely
wide tires, the wider the better, make sense on sand, not so with the
Piedmont hard red clay and snow and ice....

I've read that dualies cut down on your mileage significantly. Are you sure you
need 'em?

Probably not. I haven't found that they cut down on mileage, but they
are damn expensive to buy. They add a LOT of stability....

I'm really leaning toward super singles....

I'm not planning on any races down Splugen Pass, so I've not worried about the
stability. This pass, BTW, made my wife famous in our group of motorcyclists for
having done it on her motorcycle.

http://tinyurl.com/24xudu6
--

Hope you're having a great day!

John H

Looks like you could kick the bike into neutral and coast the way
down, John.

On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 05:01:34 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Nov 4, 6:38*am, John H wrote:
On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 21:27:12 -0400, Gene
wrote:



On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 20:10:39 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 02 Nov 2010 21:42:01 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 16:55:15 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Nov 2, 5:27 pm, Gene wrote:
On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 07:48:39 -0400, John H
wrote:

After all y'all's comments about the 4WD, and the fact that I'm not too desirous
of a white truck, I went with this one:

http://tinyurl.com/2a7lejw

Hopefully they'll leave that page up for a few days.

I drove it home last night. It drives well. But, it's definitely in a bigger
league than the 4Runner.

Now if I can just find a nice place for the "Save the Bay" bumper sticker.

I, for one, would be very interested in frequent updates, opinions,
and squawks. I'm seriously considering a K2500 or K3500 dually for a
replacement for the current truck....

--
It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are
enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.
-Thomas Sowell

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
http://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net/boating/the_boat/my_boat.htm

Fort Agent 6.00 Build 1186

One problem with * dualies is that unless you're loaded with
something, they can be fairly worthless on snow, ice or even heavy
rain. *Too much flotation in the back end.

Of course, you might not have a problem w/that out on the east coast.

Never had a problem with that... the trick is narrow tires. Hugely
wide tires, the wider the better, make sense on sand, not so with the
Piedmont hard red clay and snow and ice....

I've read that dualies cut down on your mileage significantly. Are you sure you
need 'em?

Probably not. I haven't found that they cut down on mileage, but they
are damn expensive to buy. They add a LOT of stability....

I'm really leaning toward super singles....

I'm not planning on any races down Splugen Pass, so I've not worried about the
stability. This pass, BTW, made my wife famous in our group of motorcyclists for
having done it on her motorcycle.

http://tinyurl.com/24xudu6
--

Hope you're having a great day!

John H

Looks like you could kick the bike into neutral and coast the way
down, John.

Nope, damn near have to stop for the switchbacks. It was a hard ride with rain
almost to the top where it turned to snow. At the top was a small customs shack
and a small coffee shop with a wood stove. It was the most beautiful thing in
the world. It's probably a good thing it was raining. If I could have looked
down and seen that view, I'd probably have called for a helicopter to get me
down!
--

Hope you're having a great day!

John H

On 11/3/2010 9:27 PM, Gene wrote:
On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 20:10:39 -0400, John
wrote:

On Tue, 02 Nov 2010 21:42:01 -0400,
wrote:

On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 16:55:15 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Nov 2, 5:27 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 07:48:39 -0400, John
wrote:

After all y'all's comments about the 4WD, and the fact that I'm not too desirous
of a white truck, I went with this one:

http://tinyurl.com/2a7lejw

Hopefully they'll leave that page up for a few days.

I drove it home last night. It drives well. But, it's definitely in a bigger
league than the 4Runner.

Now if I can just find a nice place for the "Save the Bay" bumper sticker.

I, for one, would be very interested in frequent updates, opinions,
and squawks. I'm seriously considering a K2500 or K3500 dually for a
replacement for the current truck....

--
It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are
enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.
-Thomas Sowell

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
http://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net/boating/the_boat/my_boat.htm

Forté Agent 6.00 Build 1186

One problem with dualies is that unless you're loaded with
something, they can be fairly worthless on snow, ice or even heavy
rain. Too much flotation in the back end.

Of course, you might not have a problem w/that out on the east coast.

Never had a problem with that... the trick is narrow tires. Hugely
wide tires, the wider the better, make sense on sand, not so with the
Piedmont hard red clay and snow and ice....

I've read that dualies cut down on your mileage significantly. Are you sure you
need 'em?

Probably not. I haven't found that they cut down on mileage, but they
are damn expensive to buy. They add a LOT of stability....

I'm really leaning toward super singles....



One of the joys of owning a small boat that can be trailered is that you
don't need a humongous truck to tow it.