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On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 20:46:54 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 10:32:09 -0700, jps wrote:

On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 11:30:35 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 16:37:44 -0400, "Paul@BYC"
wrote:

I trust you have the best intentions... I just know how tough it is for
my kid to be in a Social Studies class with a openly regressive teacher
who's car sports a bumper sticker saying "impeach Bush, torture Cheney".
She is a bright kid and knows how to play the game, she has the highest
grades in the class and it's not even her they are grading;)


You present an interesting paradox. On the one hand, you lament what you
perceive as a decline in freedom of speech and on the other hand, you
lament your kid's teacher expressing his or her freedom of speech on a
bumper sticker.

I suppose it is just context. Are you saying Helen Thomas, Rick
Sanchez and Juan Williams should not have been fired?

Freedom of speech and being paid as a journalist (not a paid
pontificator) are two different things.

Juan Williams was out of line but probably shouldn't have been fired
for the specific offense. He has certainly been treading on thin ice
with his ever larger presence at Fox -- who, by the way, is not a free
speech advocate but certainly welcomed Williams' endorsement of Muslim
fear.

Helen Thomas let her personal feelings get in the way of reporting and
Sanchez simply ****ed off the people who employed him by spitting in
their faces.

I don't think I'd be eager to keep an employee who spit in my face.

I think a teacher also has a responsibility to keep their personal
prejudices out of their realm of influence. I know if this is a
liberal teacher you think I am wrong but what if a teacher was a
holocaust denier or a racist? The policy needs to be uniform.

Wasn't the long-haired kook from Colorado a holocaust denier?
--

Hope you're having a great day!

John H

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On Oct 28, 7:53*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 17:36:40 -0400, "Paul@BYC"

wrote:
Don Imus made some grossly racist remarks and deserved firing by a
network that had no business engaging in such behavior by one of its
hosts. I lost track of him; what's he doing these days?

Imus still has his radio show on WABC and Fox Business simulcasts it
on TV

I never was a fan of Imus. On TV sitting at a studio mic wearing a
cowboy hat, staring downward, chewing gum, and saying almost nothing.
Inever saw what gave him such celeb. status in the world of media.

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On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 17:54:19 -0400, Secular Humouresque
wrote:

On 10/28/2010 1:16 PM, jps wrote:

The process of weeding out the truly idiotic will take a while.

Then why not filter yourself and speed up the process?

I'd weed you out if you could separate your nose from Harry's butt.

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On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 17:20:54 -0400, "Paul@BYC"
wrote:

On 10/28/2010 1:25 PM, jps wrote:
On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 12:04:12 -0400, "Paul@BYC"
wrote:

On 10/28/2010 11:27 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 11:35:32 -0700, wrote:

It's pretty obvious you're not a subscriber to higher ed.

I think the idea that everyone should go to college is probably not
valid.
There are plenty of people with liberal arts degrees who never learned
anything helpful in finding a job, yet they are saddled with a
$100,000 student loan that may end up costing them $200,000 or more by
the time they pay it off..
My biggest complaint with the American education establishment is the
degree of vertical integration. There is very little contact with the
real world. The system is dominated by generations of people who went
to school when they were 6 and never left.

Some colleges and universities have programs through which smart
students without financial resources can attend and graduate without
incurring significant debt. I'm not talking about traditional
"scholarship programs.

College placement offices are pretty good at helping graduating students
find jobs. You can lead students to the water, but they have to be
self-motivated enough to drink.

A small but growing number of graduating students are turning their
backs on the United States and finding good employment overseas, where
their abilities and education may be more appreciated.

The last paragraph is a sad statement of affairs. We're exporting our
technologies and now talent, plus we're educating the world only to
lose that investment back their home countries.

England, here we come...


I read that the Peoples Republic of China now lays claim to the world's
fastest supercomputer. I don't know if any of the scientists involved in
that project were trained in the United States, but it would not
surprise me to learn some were.

I think the sun is setting on the United States for many reasons.


People have said that before. I think that it's actually a good thing
that we give back talent to the world. What goes around, comes around,
and we have a lot to give, and we deserve to get back a lot. Not a lot
of people are that interested in moving to China.
--
Nom=de=Plume

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On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 19:30:05 -0400, "Paul@BYC"
wrote:

On 10/28/2010 5:58 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 17:20:54 -0400, "Paul@BYC"
wrote:

I read that the Peoples Republic of China now lays claim to the world's
fastest supercomputer. I don't know if any of the scientists involved in
that project were trained in the United States, but it would not
surprise me to learn some were.

I think the sun is setting on the United States for many reasons.

You may be right but that's a political statement anyway you slice it.
This is supposed to be (mostly) a boating group and past history here
is that nothing will get a food fight going faster than political or
religious pronouncements.

Don't start undoing your good work !


Political? A non-partisan observation about this country is political?
So, if I posted that "Democracy in the United States has worked well,"
that would be political?

How about, "The sun is setting on new boat sales in the United States
because of the price of fuel, the economy, and the closure of many boat
manufacturers and dealerships."

Better?

Is it political to discuss the lack of dredging in the ICW?

I thought the idea was to avoid partisan political posting.


It doesn't matter what you say here. There are some who'll find
political fault with it. Mostly, they're mean-spirited little men.
--
Nom=de=Plume

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On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 20:43:06 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 10:23:46 -0700, jps wrote:

On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 11:27:33 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 11:35:32 -0700, jps wrote:

It's pretty obvious you're not a subscriber to higher ed.

I think the idea that everyone should go to college is probably not
valid.
There are plenty of people with liberal arts degrees who never learned
anything helpful in finding a job, yet they are saddled with a
$100,000 student loan that may end up costing them $200,000 or more by
the time they pay it off..
My biggest complaint with the American education establishment is the
degree of vertical integration. There is very little contact with the
real world. The system is dominated by generations of people who went
to school when they were 6 and never left.

College is certainly not for everyone but who's making a living
outside of professional life?

Sales still has good opportunities but if Americans don't have
disposable income the field is limited.

Blue collar work is being shipped overseas.

Service work doesn't pay unless you're the business owner.

My wife is making 60 running the maintenance dept at golf course/HOA
and that is righteous bucks for a girl in SW Florida. Her boss the GM
is making over 100.
There are still people making good money building big houses. The
little houses are stuck in the mud but if you are up in 7 figures they
are still moving around here.

So, I guess the economy is improving, despite the right-wing talking
points.
--
Nom=de=Plume

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On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 14:21:47 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 12:07:15 -0400, "Paul@BYC"
wrote:

I've noticed that a couple of those on your blocked list appear to be
behaving. There are a couple whose posts I haven't seen yet. The three
ID spoofers are now on my blocked list because I see no reason to
encourage that sort of bad behavior. Second hand, I've noticed that at
least one of them seems to relish being the bad boy, thus proving the
correctness of my decision to block his posts.

Excellent, good start.

Now stop quoting the original 100+ lines of nonsesnse that none of us
wanted to see the first time, let alone the second or third.

Wayne, when I did that, I was castigated for doing it.
--
Nom=de=Plume

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On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 20:16:33 -0700, wrote:

Now stop quoting the original 100+ lines of nonsesnse that none of us
wanted to see the first time, let alone the second or third.

Wayne, when I did that, I was castigated for doing it.

Not by me.

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On Oct 28, 11:13*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 19:30:05 -0400, "Paul@BYC"





wrote:
On 10/28/2010 5:58 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 17:20:54 -0400, "Paul@BYC"
*wrote:

I read that the Peoples Republic of China now lays claim to the world's
fastest supercomputer. I don't know if any of the scientists involved in
that project were trained in the United States, but it would not
surprise me to learn some were.

I think the sun is setting on the United States for many reasons.

You may be right but that's a political statement anyway you slice it.
This is supposed to be (mostly) a boating group and past history here
is that nothing will get a food fight going faster than political or
religious pronouncements.

Don't start undoing your good work !

Political? A non-partisan observation about this country is political?
So, if I posted that "Democracy in the United States has worked well,"
that would be political?

How about, "The sun is setting on new boat sales in the United States
because of the price of fuel, the economy, and the closure of many boat
manufacturers and dealerships."

Better?

Is it political to discuss the lack of dredging in the ICW?

I thought the idea was to avoid partisan political posting.

It doesn't matter what you say here. There are some who'll find
political fault with it. Mostly, they're mean-spirited little men.
--
Nom=de=Plume
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Apparently is doesn't matter what we say here, you are still stuck on
name calling...

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On 10/28/2010 9:37 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In articleed89edbc-fa21-476a-8cff-445dd5ead457
@j25g2000yqa.googlegroups.com, says...

On Oct 28, 7:53 pm, wrote:
On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 17:36:40 -0400, "Paul@BYC"

wrote:
Don Imus made some grossly racist remarks and deserved firing by a
network that had no business engaging in such behavior by one of its
hosts. I lost track of him; what's he doing these days?

Imus still has his radio show on WABC and Fox Business simulcasts it
on TV

I never was a fan of Imus. On TV sitting at a studio mic wearing a
cowboy hat, staring downward, chewing gum, and saying almost nothing.
Inever saw what gave him such celeb. status in the world of media.

Yeah I got that from him too...


I saw Imus once or twice when his radio show was simulcast on TV. To me,
he wasn't interesting. He wasn't even articulate. This was several years
ago.