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Should I, or should I not? I've about decided that diesel pickups are too damn
expensive. I'm looking pretty seriously at this: http://tinyurl.com/27ehnzo Any comments? Any experience with this beast? Consumer Reports gives it a great rating, and the damn thing will tow over 10K pounds. -- John H All decisions are the result of binary thinking. |
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On 10/15/10 1:24 PM, John H wrote:
Should I, or should I not? I've about decided that diesel pickups are too damn expensive. I'm looking pretty seriously at this: http://tinyurl.com/27ehnzo Any comments? Any experience with this beast? Consumer Reports gives it a great rating, and the damn thing will tow over 10K pounds. Definitely. It makes perfect sense to spend $34,000 on a used truck three model years old and pay $700 more to get it here. Go for it! -- I'm not a warlock . . . I'm you! |
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"Secular Humouresque" wrote in message ... On 10/15/10 1:24 PM, John H wrote: Should I, or should I not? I've about decided that diesel pickups are too damn expensive. I'm looking pretty seriously at this: http://tinyurl.com/27ehnzo Any comments? Any experience with this beast? Consumer Reports gives it a great rating, and the damn thing will tow over 10K pounds. Definitely. It makes perfect sense to spend $34,000 on a used truck three model years old and pay $700 more to get it here. Go for it! -- Not to mention it's only a 2WD model. If I was going that deep in the hole.... especially for a used truck, it would be 4WD |
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On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 13:33:53 -0400, Secular Humouresque wrote:
On 10/15/10 1:24 PM, John H wrote: Should I, or should I not? I've about decided that diesel pickups are too damn expensive. I'm looking pretty seriously at this: http://tinyurl.com/27ehnzo Any comments? Any experience with this beast? Consumer Reports gives it a great rating, and the damn thing will tow over 10K pounds. Definitely. It makes perfect sense to spend $34,000 on a used truck three model years old and pay $700 more to get it here. Go for it! Thanks for your input, Harry. -- John H All decisions are the result of binary thinking. |
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"John H" wrote in message ... Should I, or should I not? I've about decided that diesel pickups are too damn expensive. I'm looking pretty seriously at this: http://tinyurl.com/27ehnzo Any comments? Any experience with this beast? Consumer Reports gives it a great rating, and the damn thing will tow over 10K pounds. -- John H All decisions are the result of binary thinking. Too expensive. a 3 year old diesel would be the same or cheaper. Nice truck, but the 10K tow rating is max and towing the gas mileage sucks. |
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On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 11:47:00 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote: "John H" wrote in message .. . Should I, or should I not? I've about decided that diesel pickups are too damn expensive. I'm looking pretty seriously at this: http://tinyurl.com/27ehnzo Any comments? Any experience with this beast? Consumer Reports gives it a great rating, and the damn thing will tow over 10K pounds. -- John H All decisions are the result of binary thinking. Too expensive. a 3 year old diesel would be the same or cheaper. Nice truck, but the 10K tow rating is max and towing the gas mileage sucks. Well, I have to admit I like this one also. http://tinyurl.com/25mfnlh -- John H All decisions are the result of binary thinking. |
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says... Should I, or should I not? I've about decided that diesel pickups are too damn expensive. I'm looking pretty seriously at this: http://tinyurl.com/27ehnzo Any comments? Any experience with this beast? Consumer Reports gives it a great rating, and the damn thing will tow over 10K pounds. The best thing about that truck is the ARE tonneau cover on the bed. I've had one for nearly 10 years on my F-150 SuperCrew and it has kept the dry inside. I would pull out the hard liner and put in a Bed Rug. If you are going to get a goose neck some day you might want to reconsider. You really need the full size bed to accommodate the 5th wheel. |
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says... On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 15:00:19 -0300, "YukonBound" wrote: "Secular Humouresque" wrote in message ... On 10/15/10 1:24 PM, John H wrote: Should I, or should I not? I've about decided that diesel pickups are too damn expensive. I'm looking pretty seriously at this: http://tinyurl.com/27ehnzo Any comments? Any experience with this beast? Consumer Reports gives it a great rating, and the damn thing will tow over 10K pounds. Definitely. It makes perfect sense to spend $34,000 on a used truck three model years old and pay $700 more to get it here. Go for it! -- Not to mention it's only a 2WD model. If I was going that deep in the hole.... especially for a used truck, it would be 4WD I am not sure why anyone in Northern Va would need a 4wd. That is needless complexity and lower gas mileage for a feature you might only use once or twice a year in a freak snow storm. I had a Jeep for 5 years across the river from him and I may have actually used the 4wd for something where I really needed it 6 or 7 times. I probably should have stayed home and enjoyed my fireplace but I had a Jeep.. Most of the time I was just out on the beltway heating up 2 extra gear cases full of 90 wt. When I bought my truck I saved the $3,500 on the sticker by going 4X2 and I saved on the mileage by going with the 15 to 19 rather than the 13 to 17. |
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Great looking truck and color also. Looks just like my 2004 Crewcab diesel
that I paid less than that for in 2004. And depending on what you are going to be towing, I would get a 3/4 ton if you go for a 5th wheel. "John H" wrote in message ... On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 11:47:00 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: "John H" wrote in message . .. Should I, or should I not? I've about decided that diesel pickups are too damn expensive. I'm looking pretty seriously at this: http://tinyurl.com/27ehnzo Any comments? Any experience with this beast? Consumer Reports gives it a great rating, and the damn thing will tow over 10K pounds. -- John H All decisions are the result of binary thinking. Too expensive. a 3 year old diesel would be the same or cheaper. Nice truck, but the 10K tow rating is max and towing the gas mileage sucks. Well, I have to admit I like this one also. http://tinyurl.com/25mfnlh -- John H All decisions are the result of binary thinking. |
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wrote in message ... On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 15:00:19 -0300, "YukonBound" wrote: "Secular Humouresque" wrote in message ... On 10/15/10 1:24 PM, John H wrote: Should I, or should I not? I've about decided that diesel pickups are too damn expensive. I'm looking pretty seriously at this: http://tinyurl.com/27ehnzo Any comments? Any experience with this beast? Consumer Reports gives it a great rating, and the damn thing will tow over 10K pounds. Definitely. It makes perfect sense to spend $34,000 on a used truck three model years old and pay $700 more to get it here. Go for it! -- Not to mention it's only a 2WD model. If I was going that deep in the hole.... especially for a used truck, it would be 4WD I am not sure why anyone in Northern Va would need a 4wd. That is needless complexity and lower gas mileage for a feature you might only use once or twice a year in a freak snow storm. I had a Jeep for 5 years across the river from him and I may have actually used the 4wd for something where I really needed it 6 or 7 times. I probably should have stayed home and enjoyed my fireplace but I had a Jeep.. Most of the time I was just out on the beltway heating up 2 extra gear cases full of 90 wt. I was thinking for boat launching/recovery on sub-standard ramps. |
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On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 14:27:16 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote: Great looking truck and color also. Looks just like my 2004 Crewcab diesel that I paid less than that for in 2004. And depending on what you are going to be towing, I would get a 3/4 ton if you go for a 5th wheel. "John H" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 11:47:00 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: "John H" wrote in message ... Should I, or should I not? I've about decided that diesel pickups are too damn expensive. I'm looking pretty seriously at this: http://tinyurl.com/27ehnzo Any comments? Any experience with this beast? Consumer Reports gives it a great rating, and the damn thing will tow over 10K pounds. -- John H All decisions are the result of binary thinking. Too expensive. a 3 year old diesel would be the same or cheaper. Nice truck, but the 10K tow rating is max and towing the gas mileage sucks. Well, I have to admit I like this one also. http://tinyurl.com/25mfnlh -- John H All decisions are the result of binary thinking. It's being transferred to the local Carmax. Don't know if the link still works. The sales guy said he was taking it off the market. -- John H All decisions are the result of binary thinking. |
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On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 17:07:19 -0400, BAR wrote:
In article , says... Should I, or should I not? I've about decided that diesel pickups are too damn expensive. I'm looking pretty seriously at this: http://tinyurl.com/27ehnzo Any comments? Any experience with this beast? Consumer Reports gives it a great rating, and the damn thing will tow over 10K pounds. The best thing about that truck is the ARE tonneau cover on the bed. I've had one for nearly 10 years on my F-150 SuperCrew and it has kept the dry inside. I would pull out the hard liner and put in a Bed Rug. If you are going to get a goose neck some day you might want to reconsider. You really need the full size bed to accommodate the 5th wheel. I've asked about that, and the folks with the fifth wheelers say it's not a problem, except when making a very tight turn. Then the front of the trailer may hit the cab of the truck. My wife and I have agreed to go look at this one as soon as it gets here. Should be in a couple days. http://tinyurl.com/25mfnlh -- John H All decisions are the result of binary thinking. |
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On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 21:31:00 GMT, "A.Boater" wrote:
John, I don't know what you are thinking. Harry is entirely correct. Personally, having owned one Jap piece of junk, I'd never go there again. Currently, I own a domestic 1/2 ton that will pull over 10,000 pounds. I get 17 MPG City and 21 MPG Hwy and that, with a 4WD model. If you are going to tow the boat out of steep slimy boat ramps, you WANT 4wd. One important point to consider is that a lot of these (especially foreign) engines are designed to produce torque and horsepower at higher RPM. That makes sense for a car, but a truck is going to drive you nuts when towing as it tachs 4,000 RPM, most of the time, and eats fuel at that rate. Yeah, and do you REALLY want gangsta tires and wheels on a truck? I'll be doing more towing in the future and my next truck will be a diesel. It makes a LOT more sense as a tow vehicle, has hugely better longevity, and a much better resale. It isn't a coincidence that all long haul trucks are diesel. This is a large ticket item. The bitter taste of poor quality lingers far longer than the initial sweetness of a cheap price. And it does so, in proportion to the sticker price. But, your call. Thanks for the input. I've been doing more looking, and have pretty much settled (for today anyway) on this: http://tinyurl.com/25mfnlh Hopefully the link will still work. The sales guy said he was taking the page down to keep anyone else from buying it. -- John H All decisions are the result of binary thinking. |
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On 10/15/10 7:13 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
I have been pretty busy the last few days with Jess back on track as it were after teh injury Racing injury or aftermath of a date with loogy? -- Guns Don't Kill People -- Fundamentalist Religion Kills People! |
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"Secular Humouresque" wrote in message ... On 10/15/10 7:13 PM, I am Tosk wrote: I have been pretty busy the last few days with Jess back on track as it were after teh injury Racing injury or aftermath of a date with loogy? -- I was wondering what exactly a "teh injury" is. |
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This isn't my pic but I have one exactly like this. it's the closest
thing to a pick up that I need at the moment. It tows my boats jsut fine. now the pontoon? eh, I use my brothers Dodge/Cummins for that one. http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2601/...5d38e021_z.jpg |
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On 10/15/10 5:31 PM, A.Boater wrote:
John, I don't know what you are thinking. Harry is entirely correct. Personally, having owned one Jap piece of junk, I'd never go there again. Currently, I own a domestic 1/2 ton that will pull over 10,000 pounds. I get 17 MPG City and 21 MPG Hwy and that, with a 4WD model. If you are going to tow the boat out of steep slimy boat ramps, you WANT 4wd. One important point to consider is that a lot of these (especially foreign) engines are designed to produce torque and horsepower at higher RPM. That makes sense for a car, but a truck is going to drive you nuts when towing as it tachs 4,000 RPM, most of the time, and eats fuel at that rate. Yeah, and do you REALLY want gangsta tires and wheels on a truck? I'll be doing more towing in the future and my next truck will be a diesel. It makes a LOT more sense as a tow vehicle, has hugely better longevity, and a much better resale. It isn't a coincidence that all long haul trucks are diesel. This is a large ticket item. The bitter taste of poor quality lingers far longer than the initial sweetness of a cheap price. And it does so, in proportion to the sticker price. But, your call. I towed a 7000-pound plus boat behind a Toyota Tundra and later a Toyota 4-Runner with Toyota's V8 engine. One in a great while, while towing up a steep grade, the engines might have spun up to 2700 rpm. At normal, safe highway towing speeds, the engines loafed along at 2200-2300 rpm. I expect the newer, larger Toyota V8 to tow its full capacity loads at similar RPMs. That said, I'd also go for a diesel if I were towing a boat rig or other trailer of 10000 pounds or more. But...I wouldn't buy a 10000-pound plus "trailer" boat. My guess is that Herring is going to have $70,000 tied up in that used truck and heavy duty camper. That's a real example of the aphorism about a fool and his money. -- Guns Don't Kill People -- Fundamentalist Religion Kills People! |
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"Secular Humouresque" wrote in message ... On 10/15/10 5:31 PM, A.Boater wrote: John, I don't know what you are thinking. Harry is entirely correct. Personally, having owned one Jap piece of junk, I'd never go there again. Currently, I own a domestic 1/2 ton that will pull over 10,000 pounds. I get 17 MPG City and 21 MPG Hwy and that, with a 4WD model. If you are going to tow the boat out of steep slimy boat ramps, you WANT 4wd. One important point to consider is that a lot of these (especially foreign) engines are designed to produce torque and horsepower at higher RPM. That makes sense for a car, but a truck is going to drive you nuts when towing as it tachs 4,000 RPM, most of the time, and eats fuel at that rate. Yeah, and do you REALLY want gangsta tires and wheels on a truck? I'll be doing more towing in the future and my next truck will be a diesel. It makes a LOT more sense as a tow vehicle, has hugely better longevity, and a much better resale. It isn't a coincidence that all long haul trucks are diesel. This is a large ticket item. The bitter taste of poor quality lingers far longer than the initial sweetness of a cheap price. And it does so, in proportion to the sticker price. But, your call. I towed a 7000-pound plus boat behind a Toyota Tundra and later a Toyota 4-Runner with Toyota's V8 engine. One in a great while, while towing up a steep grade, the engines might have spun up to 2700 rpm. At normal, safe highway towing speeds, the engines loafed along at 2200-2300 rpm. I expect the newer, larger Toyota V8 to tow its full capacity loads at similar RPMs. That said, I'd also go for a diesel if I were towing a boat rig or other trailer of 10000 pounds or more. But...I wouldn't buy a 10000-pound plus "trailer" boat. My guess is that Herring is going to have $70,000 tied up in that used truck and heavy duty camper. That's a real example of the aphorism about a fool and his money. His money... an unending supply from Uncle Sam to his bank account courtesy of the American taxpayer. I would think money is the last of his problems.... I'd be nervous of him handling anything that big towing a travel trailer larger than his current one. |
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On Oct 16, 9:26*am, "YukonBound" wrote:
"Secular Humouresque" wrote in message ... On 10/15/10 5:31 PM, A.Boater wrote: John, I don't know what you are thinking. Harry is entirely correct. Personally, having owned one Jap piece of junk, I'd never go there again. Currently, I own a domestic 1/2 ton that will pull over 10,000 pounds. I get 17 MPG City and 21 MPG Hwy and that, with a 4WD model. If you are going to tow the boat out of steep slimy boat ramps, you WANT 4wd. One important point to consider is that a lot of these (especially foreign) engines are designed to produce torque and horsepower at higher RPM. That makes sense for a car, but a truck is going to drive you nuts when towing as it tachs 4,000 RPM, most of the time, and eats fuel at that rate. Yeah, and do you REALLY want gangsta tires and wheels on a truck? I'll be doing more towing in the future and my next truck will be a diesel. It makes a LOT more sense as a tow vehicle, has hugely better longevity, and a much better resale. It isn't a coincidence that all long haul trucks are diesel. This is a large ticket item. The bitter taste of poor quality lingers far longer than the initial sweetness of a cheap price. And it does so, in proportion to the sticker price. But, your call. I towed a 7000-pound plus boat behind a Toyota Tundra and later a Toyota 4-Runner with Toyota's V8 engine. One in a great while, while towing up a steep grade, the engines might have spun up to 2700 rpm. At normal, safe highway towing speeds, the engines loafed along at 2200-2300 rpm. I expect the newer, larger Toyota V8 to tow its full capacity loads at similar RPMs. That said, I'd also go for a diesel if I were towing a boat rig or other trailer of 10000 pounds or more. But...I wouldn't buy a 10000-pound plus "trailer" boat. My guess is that Herring is going to have $70,000 tied up in that used truck and heavy duty camper. That's a real example of the aphorism about a fool and his money. His money... an unending supply from Uncle Sam to his bank account courtesy of the American taxpayer. I would think money is the last of his problems.... I'd be nervous of him handling anything that big towing a travel trailer larger than his current one.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - BFD what you think.. You are a poorly educated, broom pusher from some slum 1000 miles north of anybody who counts. I see you and the boys are still infatuated with me, something like 75 posts a day about me from the three of you.. Sweet... |
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On 10/16/10 9:31 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote:
BFD what you think.. You are a poorly educated, broom pusher from some slum 1000 miles north of anybody who counts. I see you and the boys are still infatuated with me, something like 75 posts a day about me from the three of you.. Sweet... Now that is a really funny post from our favorite little right-wing twerp, the very same fellow who has no education and couldn't hang onto a job cleaning out a horse stable. It's not that we're infatuated with you, it's just that you are very much like a wreck on the highway...there's almost a compulsion to slow down and take a look. Besides, you're my *designated" moron. You're the only one of the moronic ID spoofers whose posts I read. Be thankful. -- Guns Don't Kill People -- Fundamentalist Religion Kills People! |
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"John H" wrote in message ... Should I, or should I not? I've about decided that diesel pickups are too damn expensive. I'm looking pretty seriously at this: http://tinyurl.com/27ehnzo Any comments? Any experience with this beast? Consumer Reports gives it a great rating, and the damn thing will tow over 10K pounds. -- John H All decisions are the result of binary thinking. When I did the build your own thing at Toyota.com, a double cab 4x2 with 5.7L v-8, off road pkg and spray in bed liner the price was $34-35k. Cloth seats instead of leather, etc. but new. |
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On 10/16/10 10:40 AM, MMC wrote:
"John H" wrote in message ... Should I, or should I not? I've about decided that diesel pickups are too damn expensive. I'm looking pretty seriously at this: http://tinyurl.com/27ehnzo Any comments? Any experience with this beast? Consumer Reports gives it a great rating, and the damn thing will tow over 10K pounds. -- John H All decisions are the result of binary thinking. When I did the build your own thing at Toyota.com, a double cab 4x2 with 5.7L v-8, off road pkg and spray in bed liner the price was $34-35k. Cloth seats instead of leather, etc. but new. And that's probably the MSRP... -- Guns Don't Kill People -- Fundamentalist Religion Kills People! |
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"YukonBound" wrote in message ...
"Secular Humouresque" wrote in message ... On 10/15/10 1:24 PM, John H wrote: Should I, or should I not? I've about decided that diesel pickups are too damn expensive. I'm looking pretty seriously at this: http://tinyurl.com/27ehnzo Any comments? Any experience with this beast? Consumer Reports gives it a great rating, and the damn thing will tow over 10K pounds. Definitely. It makes perfect sense to spend $34,000 on a used truck three model years old and pay $700 more to get it here. Go for it! -- Not to mention it's only a 2WD model. If I was going that deep in the hole.... especially for a used truck, it would be 4WD And what would A RAV 4 grocery hauler station wagon driver know about trucks? -- I'm the real Harry, and I post from a PC or a MAC, as virtually everyone knows. If a post is attributed to me, and it isn't from a PC or a MAC, it's from an ID spoofer who hasn't the balls to post with his current ID. The magnificent Boatless Harry |
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"John H" wrote in message ...
On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 13:33:53 -0400, Secular Humouresque wrote: On 10/15/10 1:24 PM, John H wrote: Should I, or should I not? I've about decided that diesel pickups are too damn expensive. I'm looking pretty seriously at this: http://tinyurl.com/27ehnzo Any comments? Any experience with this beast? Consumer Reports gives it a great rating, and the damn thing will tow over 10K pounds. Definitely. It makes perfect sense to spend $34,000 on a used truck three model years old and pay $700 more to get it here. Go for it! Thanks for your input, Harry. -- John H All decisions are the result of binary thinking. I'm just wondering how they pack all them horsies into 5.7L. -- I'm the real Harry, and I post from a PC or a MAC, as virtually everyone knows. If a post is attributed to me, and it isn't from a PC or a MAC, it's from an ID spoofer who hasn't the balls to post with his current ID. The magnificent Boatless Harry |
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"John H" wrote in message ...
On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 11:47:00 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: "John H" wrote in message . .. Should I, or should I not? I've about decided that diesel pickups are too damn expensive. I'm looking pretty seriously at this: http://tinyurl.com/27ehnzo Any comments? Any experience with this beast? Consumer Reports gives it a great rating, and the damn thing will tow over 10K pounds. -- John H All decisions are the result of binary thinking. Too expensive. a 3 year old diesel would be the same or cheaper. Nice truck, but the 10K tow rating is max and towing the gas mileage sucks. Well, I have to admit I like this one also. http://tinyurl.com/25mfnlh -- John H All decisions are the result of binary thinking. Someone else seems to have beat you to it. -- I'm the real Harry, and I post from a PC or a MAC, as virtually everyone knows. If a post is attributed to me, and it isn't from a PC or a MAC, it's from an ID spoofer who hasn't the balls to post with his current ID. The magnificent Boatless Harry |
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wrote in message ...
On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 15:00:19 -0300, "YukonBound" wrote: "Secular Humouresque" wrote in message ... On 10/15/10 1:24 PM, John H wrote: Should I, or should I not? I've about decided that diesel pickups are too damn expensive. I'm looking pretty seriously at this: http://tinyurl.com/27ehnzo Any comments? Any experience with this beast? Consumer Reports gives it a great rating, and the damn thing will tow over 10K pounds. Definitely. It makes perfect sense to spend $34,000 on a used truck three model years old and pay $700 more to get it here. Go for it! -- Not to mention it's only a 2WD model. If I was going that deep in the hole.... especially for a used truck, it would be 4WD I am not sure why anyone in Northern Va would need a 4wd. That is needless complexity and lower gas mileage for a feature you might only use once or twice a year in a freak snow storm. I had a Jeep for 5 years across the river from him and I may have actually used the 4wd for something where I really needed it 6 or 7 times. I probably should have stayed home and enjoyed my fireplace but I had a Jeep.. Most of the time I was just out on the beltway heating up 2 extra gear cases full of 90 wt. Boat launching and off road camping come to mind. And there is the occasional ice storm. -- I'm the real Harry, and I post from a PC or a MAC, as virtually everyone knows. If a post is attributed to me, and it isn't from a PC or a MAC, it's from an ID spoofer who hasn't the balls to post with his current ID. The magnificent Boatless Harry |
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On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 22:56:06 GMT, "A.Boater" wrote:
Well, since it looks like you've made the plunge, I, for one, would like your impressions on the towing experiences of the truck. Personally, I think you could have made a better choice, but maybe your experiences will prove me wrong. What would you have suggested? I'm not tied into this one yet. It's getting moved to Potomac Mills, but I'm under no obligations. Even if I put the money down, I've got five days to return it for a full refund. -- John H All decisions are the result of binary thinking. |
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On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 23:05:27 GMT, "A.Boater" wrote:
Well, let me know how it turns out. If you made a stupid purchase, I would have been right in line just ahead or behind you. You will, of course, have to listen to the anal twits here and their Guvmint Motors, crap, but I think you made a very wise choice. I made a pass on the diesel, this time, betting on the investments GM has made in the product line. I don't know if you are keeping up, but the 2011+ diesel product lines offer a LOT of promises and innovations. I'm assuming you got the Allison 6 speed. What is the rear axle ratio 3.73? I haven't got it yet, and it's been taken off the site. Crap. -- John H All decisions are the result of binary thinking. |
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On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 19:28:26 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
This isn't my pic but I have one exactly like this. it's the closest thing to a pick up that I need at the moment. It tows my boats jsut fine. now the pontoon? eh, I use my brothers Dodge/Cummins for that one. http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2601/...5d38e021_z.jpg With a few minutes and a torch, you could turn that thing into a pickup pretty easily! -- John H All decisions are the result of binary thinking. |
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On 10/16/10 11:06 AM, John H wrote:
On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 22:56:06 GMT, wrote: Well, since it looks like you've made the plunge, I, for one, would like your impressions on the towing experiences of the truck. Personally, I think you could have made a better choice, but maybe your experiences will prove me wrong. What would you have suggested? I'm not tied into this one yet. It's getting moved to Potomac Mills, but I'm under no obligations. Even if I put the money down, I've got five days to return it for a full refund. http://tinyurl.com/3ynlbyd -- Guns Don't Kill People -- Fundamentalist Religion Kills People! |
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On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 10:40:13 -0400, "MMC" wrote:
"John H" wrote in message .. . Should I, or should I not? I've about decided that diesel pickups are too damn expensive. I'm looking pretty seriously at this: http://tinyurl.com/27ehnzo Any comments? Any experience with this beast? Consumer Reports gives it a great rating, and the damn thing will tow over 10K pounds. -- John H All decisions are the result of binary thinking. When I did the build your own thing at Toyota.com, a double cab 4x2 with 5.7L v-8, off road pkg and spray in bed liner the price was $34-35k. Cloth seats instead of leather, etc. but new. The Carmax one had all the bells and whistles, which can add $10-15K pretty quickly. -- John H All decisions are the result of binary thinking. |
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On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 10:51:19 -0400, Harry® wrote:
"John H" wrote in message ... On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 11:47:00 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: "John H" wrote in message ... Should I, or should I not? I've about decided that diesel pickups are too damn expensive. I'm looking pretty seriously at this: http://tinyurl.com/27ehnzo Any comments? Any experience with this beast? Consumer Reports gives it a great rating, and the damn thing will tow over 10K pounds. -- John H All decisions are the result of binary thinking. Too expensive. a 3 year old diesel would be the same or cheaper. Nice truck, but the 10K tow rating is max and towing the gas mileage sucks. Well, I have to admit I like this one also. http://tinyurl.com/25mfnlh -- John H All decisions are the result of binary thinking. Someone else seems to have beat you to it. No, the salesman took it down last night because he's having it sent to Virginia for me to look at. -- John H All decisions are the result of binary thinking. |
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On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 10:47:48 -0400, Harry® wrote:
"YukonBound" wrote in message ... "Secular Humouresque" wrote in message ... On 10/15/10 1:24 PM, John H wrote: Should I, or should I not? I've about decided that diesel pickups are too damn expensive. I'm looking pretty seriously at this: http://tinyurl.com/27ehnzo Any comments? Any experience with this beast? Consumer Reports gives it a great rating, and the damn thing will tow over 10K pounds. Definitely. It makes perfect sense to spend $34,000 on a used truck three model years old and pay $700 more to get it here. Go for it! -- Not to mention it's only a 2WD model. If I was going that deep in the hole.... especially for a used truck, it would be 4WD And what would A RAV 4 grocery hauler station wagon driver know about trucks? And who said anything about going 'deep in the hole'? -- John H All decisions are the result of binary thinking. |
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On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 06:58:27 -0400, Secular Humouresque
wrote: On 10/15/10 5:31 PM, A.Boater wrote: John, I don't know what you are thinking. Harry is entirely correct. Personally, having owned one Jap piece of junk, I'd never go there again. Currently, I own a domestic 1/2 ton that will pull over 10,000 pounds. I get 17 MPG City and 21 MPG Hwy and that, with a 4WD model. If you are going to tow the boat out of steep slimy boat ramps, you WANT 4wd. One important point to consider is that a lot of these (especially foreign) engines are designed to produce torque and horsepower at higher RPM. That makes sense for a car, but a truck is going to drive you nuts when towing as it tachs 4,000 RPM, most of the time, and eats fuel at that rate. Yeah, and do you REALLY want gangsta tires and wheels on a truck? I'll be doing more towing in the future and my next truck will be a diesel. It makes a LOT more sense as a tow vehicle, has hugely better longevity, and a much better resale. It isn't a coincidence that all long haul trucks are diesel. This is a large ticket item. The bitter taste of poor quality lingers far longer than the initial sweetness of a cheap price. And it does so, in proportion to the sticker price. But, your call. I towed a 7000-pound plus boat behind a Toyota Tundra and later a Toyota 4-Runner with Toyota's V8 engine. One in a great while, while towing up a steep grade, the engines might have spun up to 2700 rpm. At normal, safe highway towing speeds, the engines loafed along at 2200-2300 rpm. I expect the newer, larger Toyota V8 to tow its full capacity loads at similar RPMs. That said, I'd also go for a diesel if I were towing a boat rig or other trailer of 10000 pounds or more. But...I wouldn't buy a 10000-pound plus "trailer" boat. My guess is that Herring is going to have $70,000 tied up in that used truck and heavy duty camper. That's a real example of the aphorism about a fool and his money. Again, Harry, thanks for your input. I'd mention a few fitting aphorisms, but it would serve no purpose. -- John H All decisions are the result of binary thinking. |
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New truck?
On Oct 16, 10:51*am, Harry® wrote:
"John H" wrote in messagenews:blahb6hkvrt6k2gciplqseot328a527htg@4ax .com... On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 11:47:00 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: "John H" wrote in message . .. Should I, or should I not? I've about decided that diesel pickups are too damn expensive. I'm looking pretty seriously at this: http://tinyurl.com/27ehnzo Any comments? Any experience with this beast? Consumer Reports gives it a great rating, and the damn thing will tow over 10K pounds. -- John H All decisions are the result of binary thinking. Too expensive. *a 3 year old diesel would be the same or cheaper. *Nice truck, but the 10K tow rating is max and towing the gas mileage sucks. Well, I have to admit I like this one also. http://tinyurl.com/25mfnlh -- John H All decisions are the result of binary thinking. Someone else seems to have beat you to it. -- I'm the real Harry, and I post from a PC or a MAC, as virtually everyone knows. If a post is attributed to me, and it isn't from a PC or a MAC, it's from an ID spoofer who hasn't the balls to post with his current ID. The magnificent Boatless Harry Carmax put up a site I can access. Here's the truck: http://tinyurl.com/2a7lejw |
New truck?
On Oct 16, 11:09*am, Secular Humouresque wrote:
On 10/16/10 11:06 AM, John H wrote: On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 22:56:06 GMT, *wrote: Well, since it looks like you've made the plunge, I, for one, would like your impressions on the towing experiences of the truck. Personally, I think you could have made a better choice, but maybe your experiences will prove me wrong. What would you have suggested? I'm not tied into this one yet. It's getting moved to Potomac Mills, but I'm under no obligations. Even if I put the money down, I've got five days to return it for a full refund. http://tinyurl.com/3ynlbyd -- Guns Don't Kill People -- Fundamentalist Religion Kills People! Thanks for your input, Harry. |
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On Oct 15, 7:05*pm, "A.Boater" wrote:
Well, let me know how it turns out. If you made a stupid purchase, I would have been right in line just ahead or behind you. You will, of course, have to listen to the anal twits here and their Guvmint Motors, crap, but I think you made a very wise choice. I made a pass on the diesel, this time, betting on the investments GM has made in the product line. I don't know if you are keeping up, but the 2011+ diesel product lines offer a LOT of promises and innovations. I'm assuming you got the Allison 6 speed. What is the rear axle ratio 3.73? They put the site back up for me. Here's all the poop. Not sure if the rear end is shown. http://tinyurl.com/2a7lejw |
New truck?
"Harry®" wrote in message ... "YukonBound" wrote in message ... "Secular Humouresque" wrote in message ... On 10/15/10 1:24 PM, John H wrote: Should I, or should I not? I've about decided that diesel pickups are too damn expensive. I'm looking pretty seriously at this: http://tinyurl.com/27ehnzo Any comments? Any experience with this beast? Consumer Reports gives it a great rating, and the damn thing will tow over 10K pounds. Definitely. It makes perfect sense to spend $34,000 on a used truck three model years old and pay $700 more to get it here. Go for it! -- Not to mention it's only a 2WD model. If I was going that deep in the hole.... especially for a used truck, it would be 4WD And what would A RAV 4 grocery hauler station wagon driver know about trucks? -- Duh..... I only bought the RAV4 18 months ago after the lease on my Ford Ranger 2WD expired. After driving front wheel drive vehicles since 1984...... that truck made me nervous in the snow. The rear end sure liked to jump out..... I had 100 lbs of bagged sand in the bed although I only had the original equipment all season tires. |
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