On Sep 29, 2:09*am, "Califbill" wrote:
"LG" wrote in message

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John H wrote:
Trying to decide which to get - between Toyota, Ford, GMC. Toyota doesn't
make a
diesel, but the question becomes, 'Why diesel'? The price of the truck is
about
$8K more than the gasser. The diesels get better mileage, supposedly, but
diesel
also costs more.

Any ideas out there?

Don't buy into that E85 Flex fuel bull**** from Dodge and GMC. *The fuel
economy drops at roughly the same percentage as the fuel savings. *In the
end you just fill up more often.

Diesels last a long, long time and have a ton of torque. *You don't need
the torque unless a 30 footer is in your future!

Depends where you tow, and what you tow. *I drive a crewcab 2004 Chevy
diesel. *I tow a 4400# boat over 9-10,000' passes. *Love the power. *Also
like the mileage. * The newer trucks get a little more mileage as they have
an extra gear in the tranny. *Towing the boat at 65 and with the popup slide
in camper, which adds 1500# to the truck and 8" to the height I get about
13-14.5 mpg. * Driving to Los Angeles and the truck without camper gets
about 19 mpg at 80 mph. *Maintenance is about 2x for oil changes. *The new
Tundra's are nice, and have a 10,000# tow rating, but the mileage sucks when
towing, and about average for any of the trucks when not towing. *My son in
laws older Tundra is still running good at 150k. *But he also does not tow.
Towing and not needing mountain climbing power, I would get a gas rig, as
the difference buys a lot of gas. *The difference is less than $8k as the
extra money normally includes a lot of nice options. *Which ever vehicle you
buy, get the power extension mirrors if towing.

Lots of good info there. Thanks. The latest 'Diesel Power' magazine
ran a test of the three USA diesels. You're right about the fuel
usage. They were all in the 13-14 mpg range.

TRUCK: MILEAGE (EMPTY): MILEAGE (WITH 10,000-POUND TRAILER):
Ford F-250 17.61 mpg 13.25 mpg
Chevy 2500 20.14 mpg 13.53 mpg
Ram 2500 17.49 mpg 12.58 mpg
TRUCK: MILEAGE (EMPTY): MILEAGE (WITH 12,000-POUND TRAILER):
Ford F-350 17.04 mpg 12.45 mpg
GMC 3500 17.83 mpg 11.02 mpg

From: http://www.dieselpowermag.com/featur...uck/index.html