On 9/29/10 8:00 AM, BAR wrote:
In articleavmdnUed1_nRGD_RnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@giganews. com,
says...

John H wrote:
Trying to decide which to get - between Toyota, Ford, GMC. Toyota doesn't make a
diesel, but the question becomes, 'Why diesel'? The price of the truck is about
$8K more than the gasser. The diesels get better mileage, supposedly, but diesel
also costs more.

Any ideas out there?

Don't buy into that E85 Flex fuel bull**** from Dodge and GMC. The fuel
economy drops at roughly the same percentage as the fuel savings. In
the end you just fill up more often.

My mechanic told that you really need to fill up with the 93 octane gas
to overcome all of the crap they put into fuel these days to make it
more fuel friendly.

Diesels last a long, long time and have a ton of torque. You don't need
the torque unless a 30 footer is in your future!




Toyota sells diesel-powered pickup trucks in Europe. There have been
rumors that it would also sell them in the USA.

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"Secular Humourist" wrote in message
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On 9/29/10 8:00 AM, BAR wrote:
In articleavmdnUed1_nRGD_RnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@giganews. com,
says...

John H wrote:
Trying to decide which to get - between Toyota, Ford, GMC. Toyota
doesn't make a
diesel, but the question becomes, 'Why diesel'? The price of the truck
is about
$8K more than the gasser. The diesels get better mileage, supposedly,
but diesel
also costs more.

Any ideas out there?

Don't buy into that E85 Flex fuel bull**** from Dodge and GMC. The fuel
economy drops at roughly the same percentage as the fuel savings. In
the end you just fill up more often.

My mechanic told that you really need to fill up with the 93 octane gas
to overcome all of the crap they put into fuel these days to make it
more fuel friendly.

Diesels last a long, long time and have a ton of torque. You don't need
the torque unless a 30 footer is in your future!




Toyota sells diesel-powered pickup trucks in Europe. There have been
rumors that it would also sell them in the USA.

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals


Every manufacturer sells diesel powered cars and trucks outside the USA.
Including the Ford focus. 60-80 mpg. But the EPA says they are too dirty
to sell here. How much difference is the pollution per mile? Can not be
much different when you are getting 2-3x the milage.

In article ,
says...

"Secular Humourist" wrote in message
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On 9/29/10 8:00 AM, BAR wrote:
In articleavmdnUed1_nRGD_RnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@giganews. com,
says...

John H wrote:
Trying to decide which to get - between Toyota, Ford, GMC. Toyota
doesn't make a
diesel, but the question becomes, 'Why diesel'? The price of the truck
is about
$8K more than the gasser. The diesels get better mileage, supposedly,
but diesel
also costs more.

Any ideas out there?

Don't buy into that E85 Flex fuel bull**** from Dodge and GMC. The fuel
economy drops at roughly the same percentage as the fuel savings. In
the end you just fill up more often.

My mechanic told that you really need to fill up with the 93 octane gas
to overcome all of the crap they put into fuel these days to make it
more fuel friendly.

Diesels last a long, long time and have a ton of torque. You don't need
the torque unless a 30 footer is in your future!




Toyota sells diesel-powered pickup trucks in Europe. There have been
rumors that it would also sell them in the USA.

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals


Every manufacturer sells diesel powered cars and trucks outside the USA.
Including the Ford focus. 60-80 mpg. But the EPA says they are too dirty
to sell here. How much difference is the pollution per mile? Can not be
much different when you are getting 2-3x the milage.

This has been my issue with the oxygenated gasoline we have to by in the
DC area every October 15 to March 15. You get 15 to 20 percent less
mileage. What is the point. You still have to burn the same amount of
gasoline to go the same distance. And, the law was requiring MTBE as the
oxygenator in gas until they found out it was bad. Way to go government
make us pay more for fuel and destroy the environment by force of law.

On 9/28/10 6:02 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 17:25:09 -0400, John
wrote:

Trying to decide which to get - between Toyota, Ford, GMC. Toyota doesn't make a
diesel, but the question becomes, 'Why diesel'? The price of the truck is about
$8K more than the gasser. The diesels get better mileage, supposedly, but diesel
also costs more.

Any ideas out there?

Be a little careful about new diesels. The new ones have a urea system
in them that could leave you stuck on the side of the road. At this
point, the dealer is the only one that can refill the tank. It is
supposed to last quite a while but when it is empty you are done.


What could be better than Herring stuck on the side of the road at night
adjacent to a neighborhood full of those dark-skinned Americans he so
fears and hates?

Bring it on!



--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals

On Sep 28, 6:05*pm, Secular Humourist wrote:
On 9/28/10 6:02 PM, wrote:

On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 17:25:09 -0400, John
wrote:

Trying to decide which to get - between Toyota, Ford, GMC. Toyota doesn't make a
diesel, but the question becomes, 'Why diesel'? The price of the truck is about
$8K more than the gasser. The diesels get better mileage, supposedly, but diesel
also costs more.

Any ideas out there?

Be a little careful about new diesels. The new ones have a urea system
in them that could leave you stuck on the side of the road. At this
point, the dealer is the only one that can refill the tank. It is
supposed to last quite a while but when it is empty you are done.

What could be better than Herring stuck on the side of the road at night
adjacent to a neighborhood full of those dark-skinned Americans he so
fears and hates?

Bring it on!

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals

Please feel free to post THOSE pictures...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

"Secular Humourist" wrote in message
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On 9/28/10 6:02 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 17:25:09 -0400, John
wrote:

Trying to decide which to get - between Toyota, Ford, GMC. Toyota
doesn't make a
diesel, but the question becomes, 'Why diesel'? The price of the truck
is about
$8K more than the gasser. The diesels get better mileage, supposedly,
but diesel
also costs more.

Any ideas out there?

Be a little careful about new diesels. The new ones have a urea system
in them that could leave you stuck on the side of the road. At this
point, the dealer is the only one that can refill the tank. It is
supposed to last quite a while but when it is empty you are done.


What could be better than Herring stuck on the side of the road at night
adjacent to a neighborhood full of those dark-skinned Americans he so
fears and hates?

Someone of color who actually stops and helps him... Maybe he'll do a George
Wallace.

In article ,
says...

On 9/28/10 6:02 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 17:25:09 -0400, John
wrote:

Trying to decide which to get - between Toyota, Ford, GMC. Toyota doesn't make a
diesel, but the question becomes, 'Why diesel'? The price of the truck is about
$8K more than the gasser. The diesels get better mileage, supposedly, but diesel
also costs more.

Any ideas out there?

Be a little careful about new diesels. The new ones have a urea system
in them that could leave you stuck on the side of the road. At this
point, the dealer is the only one that can refill the tank. It is
supposed to last quite a while but when it is empty you are done.


What could be better than Herring stuck on the side of the road at night
adjacent to a neighborhood full of those dark-skinned Americans he so
fears and hates?

Bring it on!

Spoofer alert! That reply was just as stupid as some of my little buddy
Don's.

wrote:
On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 17:25:09 -0400, John
wrote:


Trying to decide which to get - between Toyota, Ford, GMC. Toyota doesn't make a
diesel, but the question becomes, 'Why diesel'? The price of the truck is about
$8K more than the gasser. The diesels get better mileage, supposedly, but diesel
also costs more.

Any ideas out there?

Be a little careful about new diesels. The new ones have a urea system
in them that could leave you stuck on the side of the road. At this
point, the dealer is the only one that can refill the tank. It is
supposed to last quite a while but when it is empty you are done.

In my case, the emissions aren't as clean when it's empty but I can
still drive it.

"LG" wrote in message
news
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 17:25:09 -0400, John
wrote:


Trying to decide which to get - between Toyota, Ford, GMC. Toyota
doesn't make a
diesel, but the question becomes, 'Why diesel'? The price of the truck
is about
$8K more than the gasser. The diesels get better mileage, supposedly,
but diesel
also costs more.

Any ideas out there?

Be a little careful about new diesels. The new ones have a urea system
in them that could leave you stuck on the side of the road. At this
point, the dealer is the only one that can refill the tank. It is
supposed to last quite a while but when it is empty you are done.

In my case, the emissions aren't as clean when it's empty but I can still
drive it.

You can probably get some antibiotic for that.

On Sep 28, 8:19*pm, LG wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 17:25:09 -0400, John
wrote:

Trying to decide which to get - between Toyota, Ford, GMC. Toyota doesn't make a
diesel, but the question becomes, 'Why diesel'? The price of the truck is about
$8K more than the gasser. The diesels get better mileage, supposedly, but diesel
also costs more.

Any ideas out there?

Be a little careful about new diesels. The new ones have a urea system
in them that could leave you stuck on the side of the road. At this
point, the dealer is the only one that can refill the tank. It is
supposed to last quite a while but when it is empty you are done.

In my case, the emissions aren't as clean when it's empty but I can
still drive it.

Your " emissions " in this NG are quite noticeable. They reek of ****,
and Panty Liners menstrual blood.