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says... "Secular Humoresque" wrote in message ... In article , says... "bpuharic" wrote in message ... On Mon, 04 Oct 2010 19:58:51 -0400, LG wrote: bpuharic wrote: On Sun, 3 Oct 2010 20:08:43 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: wrote in message ... On Sat, 2 Oct 2010 10:43:26 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: gee. buchanan wasn't president in 1864. how'd that work out? Huh? buchanan was pres before lincoln. he had an opportunity to prevent the civil war. lincoln cleaned up his mess As Republicans often do... HHAHAHAHAHA!! you really give me a laff every time i read you... bush cleaned up a mess!! you could be a stand up comic!! very funny! Naw, Ditzy is just.... ditzy. Don if you are going to reply please reply with something sensible, or at least witty. I'm more into factual. Then you missed big time. |
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On Mon, 4 Oct 2010 20:09:22 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote: "bpuharic" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 4 Oct 2010 10:29:28 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "During his presidency Buchanan supported the attempt to establish Kansas as a slave state. He also failed to take decisive action when South Carolina left the Union. Buchanan argued that the Constitution granted the federal government no power to "coerce a State into submission." He also recommended that the Constitution should be amended to guarantee slavery where it already existed." calif bill will just shrugs his shoulders and say 'so?' The civil war was not about slavery. yes, it was. Was economics and states rights as the driving forces. ROFLMAO!! hey genius...you think slaves had nothing to do with states rights and economics?? HAHAHAHAHA Lincoln did not issue an executive order, the Emancipation Proclamation, until 1863. to prevent europeans from throwing in their lot with the south in a balance of power play The war started in 1861. The fact that Lincoln, a Republican, the party of anti-slavery was elected POTUS, was a driving force for the South to start seceding, but was enough to cause states to start seceding. You do realize the Emancipation Proclamation did not free all the slaves? Only the slaves in Northern (Union) controlled states there were almost no slaves in the north. some in maryland...a few in other states.. |
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bpuharic wrote:
On Mon, 04 Oct 2010 20:00:22 -0400, wrote: bpuharic wrote: On Mon, 4 Oct 2010 10:29:28 -0700, wrote: "During his presidency Buchanan supported the attempt to establish Kansas as a slave state. He also failed to take decisive action when South Carolina left the Union. Buchanan argued that the Constitution granted the federal government no power to "coerce a State into submission." He also recommended that the Constitution should be amended to guarantee slavery where it already existed." calif bill will just shrugs his shoulders and say 'so?' How's that battery charger, Bob? why? cant figure yours out? No need. The alternator on my boat keeps mine charged. Using your boat will have the same results. |
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"bpuharic" wrote in message ... On Mon, 4 Oct 2010 20:09:22 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: "bpuharic" wrote in message . .. On Mon, 4 Oct 2010 10:29:28 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "During his presidency Buchanan supported the attempt to establish Kansas as a slave state. He also failed to take decisive action when South Carolina left the Union. Buchanan argued that the Constitution granted the federal government no power to "coerce a State into submission." He also recommended that the Constitution should be amended to guarantee slavery where it already existed." calif bill will just shrugs his shoulders and say 'so?' The civil war was not about slavery. yes, it was. Was economics and states rights as the driving forces. ROFLMAO!! hey genius...you think slaves had nothing to do with states rights and economics?? HAHAHAHAHA Lincoln did not issue an executive order, the Emancipation Proclamation, until 1863. to prevent europeans from throwing in their lot with the south in a balance of power play The war started in 1861. The fact that Lincoln, a Republican, the party of anti-slavery was elected POTUS, was a driving force for the South to start seceding, but was enough to cause states to start seceding. You do realize the Emancipation Proclamation did not free all the slaves? Only the slaves in Northern (Union) controlled states there were almost no slaves in the north. some in maryland...a few in other states.. the North controlled some southern states by then. But the fear was antislavery, but not slavery per se. Hell, only 26% of North Carolina family's owned slaves. And some slave owners were black. Imagine that. |
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bpuharic wrote:
On Mon, 04 Oct 2010 19:58:51 -0400, wrote: bpuharic wrote: On Sun, 3 Oct 2010 20:08:43 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: wrote in message ... On Sat, 2 Oct 2010 10:43:26 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: gee. buchanan wasn't president in 1864. how'd that work out? Huh? buchanan was pres before lincoln. he had an opportunity to prevent the civil war. lincoln cleaned up his mess As Republicans often do... HHAHAHAHAHA!! you really give me a laff every time i read you... bush cleaned up a mess!! you could be a stand up comic!! very funny! WTF? I know you are nearly blind but you CAN still read, eh? |
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On Tue, 5 Oct 2010 16:44:57 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote: "bpuharic" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 4 Oct 2010 20:09:22 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: to prevent europeans from throwing in their lot with the south in a balance of power play The war started in 1861. The fact that Lincoln, a Republican, the party of anti-slavery was elected POTUS, was a driving force for the South to start seceding, but was enough to cause states to start seceding. You do realize the Emancipation Proclamation did not free all the slaves? Only the slaves in Northern (Union) controlled states there were almost no slaves in the north. some in maryland...a few in other states.. the North controlled some southern states by then. But the fear was antislavery, but not slavery per se. Hell, only 26% of North Carolina family's owned slaves. And some slave owners were black. Imagine that. didnt matter. the perception of the right to own slaves was more important than slavery. and almost no blacks owned slaves |
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On Tue, 05 Oct 2010 19:45:48 -0400, LG wrote:
bpuharic wrote: On Mon, 04 Oct 2010 19:58:51 -0400, wrote: bpuharic wrote: On Sun, 3 Oct 2010 20:08:43 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: buchanan was pres before lincoln. he had an opportunity to prevent the civil war. lincoln cleaned up his mess As Republicans often do... HHAHAHAHAHA!! you really give me a laff every time i read you... bush cleaned up a mess!! you could be a stand up comic!! very funny! WTF? I know you are nearly blind but you CAN still read, eh? bush and his rich budddies treat the middle class like an ATM |
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On Tue, 05 Oct 2010 19:44:49 -0400, LG wrote:
bpuharic wrote: On Mon, 04 Oct 2010 20:00:22 -0400, wrote: why? cant figure yours out? No need. The alternator on my boat keeps mine charged. Using your boat will have the same results. your ignorance abounds. overwhelms. it's a wonder of nature |
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