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Because that's what our screwed up laws prescribe... God forbid we'd try to control the distribution of guns. BATTLE GROUND, Wash. (AP) - The 3-year-old son of a Clark County sheriff's detective has died after police say the boy accidentally shot himself in the head at the family's Battle Ground home. The Columbian says Ryan Owens died early Wednesday at Legacy Emanuel Hospital in Portland. Police say the boy's father, Detective Ed Owens, was off-duty and at home at the time of the shooting late Tuesday night. Police say the gun was not a sheriff's department-issued weapon and it was not immediately clear how the child obtained it. The sheriff's office mandates that its guns be kept in a safe when officers are at home. Sheriff Garry Lucas spent the night at the hospital with the boy's parents. On Wednesday, Lucas told reporters, "This is a tragedy for the family involved and our agency." Battle Ground police, Vancouver police and the sheriff's office are investigating. |
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On 9/16/2010 11:54 AM, jps wrote:
Because that's what our screwed up laws prescribe... God forbid we'd try to control the distribution of guns. BATTLE GROUND, Wash. (AP) - The 3-year-old son of a Clark County sheriff's detective has died after police say the boy accidentally shot himself in the head at the family's Battle Ground home. The Columbian says Ryan Owens died early Wednesday at Legacy Emanuel Hospital in Portland. Police say the boy's father, Detective Ed Owens, was off-duty and at home at the time of the shooting late Tuesday night. Police say the gun was not a sheriff's department-issued weapon and it was not immediately clear how the child obtained it. The sheriff's office mandates that its guns be kept in a safe when officers are at home. Sheriff Garry Lucas spent the night at the hospital with the boy's parents. On Wednesday, Lucas told reporters, "This is a tragedy for the family involved and our agency." Battle Ground police, Vancouver police and the sheriff's office are investigating. Leave it to gun baanning meddlers to say things like that. Accidents happen. There is no way to be totally safe. The family is devistated because of the death of the child by accident. perhaps we should prosecute your parents for your accidental conception. |
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On 9/16/10 4:07 PM, Lil Abner wrote:
On 9/16/2010 11:54 AM, jps wrote: Because that's what our screwed up laws prescribe... God forbid we'd try to control the distribution of guns. BATTLE GROUND, Wash. (AP) - The 3-year-old son of a Clark County sheriff's detective has died after police say the boy accidentally shot himself in the head at the family's Battle Ground home. The Columbian says Ryan Owens died early Wednesday at Legacy Emanuel Hospital in Portland. Police say the boy's father, Detective Ed Owens, was off-duty and at home at the time of the shooting late Tuesday night. Police say the gun was not a sheriff's department-issued weapon and it was not immediately clear how the child obtained it. The sheriff's office mandates that its guns be kept in a safe when officers are at home. Sheriff Garry Lucas spent the night at the hospital with the boy's parents. On Wednesday, Lucas told reporters, "This is a tragedy for the family involved and our agency." Battle Ground police, Vancouver police and the sheriff's office are investigating. Leave it to gun baanning meddlers to say things like that. Accidents happen. There is no way to be totally safe. The family is devistated because of the death of the child by accident. perhaps we should prosecute your parents for your accidental conception. A three year old is killed while playing with one of daddy's loaded guns and you call it an accident? It was negligence at the very least. The father should be brought up on criminal charges. |
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Secular Humorist wrote:
On 9/16/10 4:07 PM, Lil Abner wrote: On 9/16/2010 11:54 AM, jps wrote: Because that's what our screwed up laws prescribe... God forbid we'd try to control the distribution of guns. BATTLE GROUND, Wash. (AP) - The 3-year-old son of a Clark County sheriff's detective has died after police say the boy accidentally shot himself in the head at the family's Battle Ground home. The Columbian says Ryan Owens died early Wednesday at Legacy Emanuel Hospital in Portland. Police say the boy's father, Detective Ed Owens, was off-duty and at home at the time of the shooting late Tuesday night. Police say the gun was not a sheriff's department-issued weapon and it was not immediately clear how the child obtained it. The sheriff's office mandates that its guns be kept in a safe when officers are at home. Sheriff Garry Lucas spent the night at the hospital with the boy's parents. On Wednesday, Lucas told reporters, "This is a tragedy for the family involved and our agency." Battle Ground police, Vancouver police and the sheriff's office are investigating. Leave it to gun baanning meddlers to say things like that. Accidents happen. There is no way to be totally safe. The family is devistated because of the death of the child by accident. perhaps we should prosecute your parents for your accidental conception. A three year old is killed while playing with one of daddy's loaded guns and you call it an accident? It was negligence at the very least. The father should be brought up on criminal charges. Asshole. If he was letting his kid run the chain saw or cut wood on the table saw or run the riding mower you might have a point. But guns are American, and the kid died like an American. Jim - You want my gun? Take it from my kid's cold dead hands. |
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On 9/16/2010 4:43 PM, Jim wrote:
Secular Humorist wrote: On 9/16/10 4:07 PM, Lil Abner wrote: On 9/16/2010 11:54 AM, jps wrote: Because that's what our screwed up laws prescribe... God forbid we'd try to control the distribution of guns. BATTLE GROUND, Wash. (AP) - The 3-year-old son of a Clark County sheriff's detective has died after police say the boy accidentally shot himself in the head at the family's Battle Ground home. The Columbian says Ryan Owens died early Wednesday at Legacy Emanuel Hospital in Portland. Police say the boy's father, Detective Ed Owens, was off-duty and at home at the time of the shooting late Tuesday night. Police say the gun was not a sheriff's department-issued weapon and it was not immediately clear how the child obtained it. The sheriff's office mandates that its guns be kept in a safe when officers are at home. Sheriff Garry Lucas spent the night at the hospital with the boy's parents. On Wednesday, Lucas told reporters, "This is a tragedy for the family involved and our agency." Battle Ground police, Vancouver police and the sheriff's office are investigating. Leave it to gun baanning meddlers to say things like that. Accidents happen. There is no way to be totally safe. The family is devistated because of the death of the child by accident. perhaps we should prosecute your parents for your accidental conception. A three year old is killed while playing with one of daddy's loaded guns and you call it an accident? It was negligence at the very least. The father should be brought up on criminal charges. Asshole. If he was letting his kid run the chain saw or cut wood on the table saw or run the riding mower you might have a point. But guns are American, and the kid died like an American. Jim - You want my gun? Take it from my kid's cold dead hands. nutcase |
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On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:07:39 -0400, Lil Abner wrote:
On 9/16/2010 11:54 AM, jps wrote: Because that's what our screwed up laws prescribe... God forbid we'd try to control the distribution of guns. BATTLE GROUND, Wash. (AP) - The 3-year-old son of a Clark County sheriff's detective has died after police say the boy accidentally shot himself in the head at the family's Battle Ground home. The Columbian says Ryan Owens died early Wednesday at Legacy Emanuel Hospital in Portland. Police say the boy's father, Detective Ed Owens, was off-duty and at home at the time of the shooting late Tuesday night. Police say the gun was not a sheriff's department-issued weapon and it was not immediately clear how the child obtained it. The sheriff's office mandates that its guns be kept in a safe when officers are at home. Sheriff Garry Lucas spent the night at the hospital with the boy's parents. On Wednesday, Lucas told reporters, "This is a tragedy for the family involved and our agency." Battle Ground police, Vancouver police and the sheriff's office are investigating. Leave it to gun baanning meddlers to say things like that. Accidents happen. There is no way to be totally safe. The family is devistated because of the death of the child by accident. perhaps we should prosecute your parents for your accidental conception. That's funny but I was planned. Accidents really can't be afforded in these situations. This can't be explained by "**** happens." A small child is dead and the parent is to blame. And, because we've let the cat out of the bag on small arms, the best thing our lawmakers can do is punish those who are stupid enough to leave their weapons within reach of innocents. The law in Washington State and plenty of others is to prosecute. Doesn't that seem real ****ed up to you? Is that the best we can do? This is the third or fourth incident in our (outlying) area in the past several months in which a young life was taken. Doesn't it make any impact on you second amendment folks? Do you think we may have played a little too loose and fast with guns, forgetting basic human nature is likely to cause a good many regrettable incidents where innocents loose their very existence? Anyone who thinks guns and humans are a good mix in volume is a bloody dunderhead. |
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On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 15:43:54 -0500, Jim wrote:
Secular Humorist wrote: On 9/16/10 4:07 PM, Lil Abner wrote: On 9/16/2010 11:54 AM, jps wrote: Because that's what our screwed up laws prescribe... God forbid we'd try to control the distribution of guns. BATTLE GROUND, Wash. (AP) - The 3-year-old son of a Clark County sheriff's detective has died after police say the boy accidentally shot himself in the head at the family's Battle Ground home. The Columbian says Ryan Owens died early Wednesday at Legacy Emanuel Hospital in Portland. Police say the boy's father, Detective Ed Owens, was off-duty and at home at the time of the shooting late Tuesday night. Police say the gun was not a sheriff's department-issued weapon and it was not immediately clear how the child obtained it. The sheriff's office mandates that its guns be kept in a safe when officers are at home. Sheriff Garry Lucas spent the night at the hospital with the boy's parents. On Wednesday, Lucas told reporters, "This is a tragedy for the family involved and our agency." Battle Ground police, Vancouver police and the sheriff's office are investigating. Leave it to gun baanning meddlers to say things like that. Accidents happen. There is no way to be totally safe. The family is devistated because of the death of the child by accident. perhaps we should prosecute your parents for your accidental conception. A three year old is killed while playing with one of daddy's loaded guns and you call it an accident? It was negligence at the very least. The father should be brought up on criminal charges. Asshole. If he was letting his kid run the chain saw or cut wood on the table saw or run the riding mower you might have a point. But guns are American, and the kid died like an American. Jim - You want my gun? Take it from my kid's cold dead hands. Well said. |
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On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:48:50 -0400, Lil Abner wrote:
On 9/16/2010 4:43 PM, Jim wrote: Secular Humorist wrote: On 9/16/10 4:07 PM, Lil Abner wrote: On 9/16/2010 11:54 AM, jps wrote: Because that's what our screwed up laws prescribe... God forbid we'd try to control the distribution of guns. BATTLE GROUND, Wash. (AP) - The 3-year-old son of a Clark County sheriff's detective has died after police say the boy accidentally shot himself in the head at the family's Battle Ground home. The Columbian says Ryan Owens died early Wednesday at Legacy Emanuel Hospital in Portland. Police say the boy's father, Detective Ed Owens, was off-duty and at home at the time of the shooting late Tuesday night. Police say the gun was not a sheriff's department-issued weapon and it was not immediately clear how the child obtained it. The sheriff's office mandates that its guns be kept in a safe when officers are at home. Sheriff Garry Lucas spent the night at the hospital with the boy's parents. On Wednesday, Lucas told reporters, "This is a tragedy for the family involved and our agency." Battle Ground police, Vancouver police and the sheriff's office are investigating. Leave it to gun baanning meddlers to say things like that. Accidents happen. There is no way to be totally safe. The family is devistated because of the death of the child by accident. perhaps we should prosecute your parents for your accidental conception. A three year old is killed while playing with one of daddy's loaded guns and you call it an accident? It was negligence at the very least. The father should be brought up on criminal charges. Asshole. If he was letting his kid run the chain saw or cut wood on the table saw or run the riding mower you might have a point. But guns are American, and the kid died like an American. Jim - You want my gun? Take it from my kid's cold dead hands. nutcase More proof that you lack any sense of humor. |
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On Sep 16, 4:09*pm, Secular Humorist wrote:
On 9/16/10 4:07 PM, Lil Abner wrote: On 9/16/2010 11:54 AM, jps wrote: Because that's what our screwed up laws prescribe... God forbid we'd try to control the distribution of guns. BATTLE GROUND, Wash. (AP) - The 3-year-old son of a Clark County sheriff's detective has died after police say the boy accidentally shot himself in the head at the family's Battle Ground home. The Columbian says Ryan Owens died early Wednesday at Legacy Emanuel Hospital in Portland. Police say the boy's father, Detective Ed Owens, was off-duty and at home at the time of the shooting late Tuesday night. Police say the gun was not a sheriff's department-issued weapon and it was not immediately clear how the child obtained it. The sheriff's office mandates that its guns be kept in a safe when officers are at home. Sheriff Garry Lucas spent the night at the hospital with the boy's parents. On Wednesday, Lucas told reporters, "This is a tragedy for the family involved and our agency." Battle Ground police, Vancouver police and the sheriff's office are investigating. Leave it to gun baanning meddlers to say things like that. Accidents happen. There is no way to be totally safe. The family is devistated because of the death of the child by accident. perhaps we should prosecute your parents for your accidental conception.. A three year old is killed while playing with one of daddy's loaded guns and you call it an accident? It was negligence at the very least. The father should be brought up on criminal charges. Criminal charges like JustHateaTosk should be brought up on for mis- treating his now dead father? |
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On 9/16/2010 6:31 PM, jps wrote:
On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:48:50 -0400, Lil wrote: On 9/16/2010 4:43 PM, Jim wrote: Secular Humorist wrote: On 9/16/10 4:07 PM, Lil Abner wrote: On 9/16/2010 11:54 AM, jps wrote: Because that's what our screwed up laws prescribe... God forbid we'd try to control the distribution of guns. BATTLE GROUND, Wash. (AP) - The 3-year-old son of a Clark County sheriff's detective has died after police say the boy accidentally shot himself in the head at the family's Battle Ground home. The Columbian says Ryan Owens died early Wednesday at Legacy Emanuel Hospital in Portland. Police say the boy's father, Detective Ed Owens, was off-duty and at home at the time of the shooting late Tuesday night. Police say the gun was not a sheriff's department-issued weapon and it was not immediately clear how the child obtained it. The sheriff's office mandates that its guns be kept in a safe when officers are at home. Sheriff Garry Lucas spent the night at the hospital with the boy's parents. On Wednesday, Lucas told reporters, "This is a tragedy for the family involved and our agency." Battle Ground police, Vancouver police and the sheriff's office are investigating. Leave it to gun baanning meddlers to say things like that. Accidents happen. There is no way to be totally safe. The family is devistated because of the death of the child by accident. perhaps we should prosecute your parents for your accidental conception. A three year old is killed while playing with one of daddy's loaded guns and you call it an accident? It was negligence at the very least. The father should be brought up on criminal charges. Asshole. If he was letting his kid run the chain saw or cut wood on the table saw or run the riding mower you might have a point. But guns are American, and the kid died like an American. Jim - You want my gun? Take it from my kid's cold dead hands. nutcase More proof that you lack any sense of humor. I thought it was witty in a not too over enthusiastic way. |
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On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:07:39 -0400, Lil Abner wrote: On 9/16/2010 11:54 AM, jps wrote: Because that's what our screwed up laws prescribe... God forbid we'd try to control the distribution of guns. BATTLE GROUND, Wash. (AP) - The 3-year-old son of a Clark County sheriff's detective has died after police say the boy accidentally shot himself in the head at the family's Battle Ground home. The Columbian says Ryan Owens died early Wednesday at Legacy Emanuel Hospital in Portland. Police say the boy's father, Detective Ed Owens, was off-duty and at home at the time of the shooting late Tuesday night. Police say the gun was not a sheriff's department-issued weapon and it was not immediately clear how the child obtained it. The sheriff's office mandates that its guns be kept in a safe when officers are at home. Sheriff Garry Lucas spent the night at the hospital with the boy's parents. On Wednesday, Lucas told reporters, "This is a tragedy for the family involved and our agency." Battle Ground police, Vancouver police and the sheriff's office are investigating. Leave it to gun baanning meddlers to say things like that. Accidents happen. There is no way to be totally safe. The family is devistated because of the death of the child by accident. perhaps we should prosecute your parents for your accidental conception. That's funny but I was planned. Accidents really can't be afforded in these situations. This can't be explained by "**** happens." A small child is dead and the parent is to blame. And, because we've let the cat out of the bag on small arms, the best thing our lawmakers can do is punish those who are stupid enough to leave their weapons within reach of innocents. Honestly, JPS, these sad incidents involving guns is not really why you want guns banned. |
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Secular Humorist wrote: On 9/16/10 4:07 PM, Lil Abner wrote: On 9/16/2010 11:54 AM, jps wrote: Because that's what our screwed up laws prescribe... God forbid we'd try to control the distribution of guns. BATTLE GROUND, Wash. (AP) - The 3-year-old son of a Clark County sheriff's detective has died after police say the boy accidentally shot himself in the head at the family's Battle Ground home. The Columbian says Ryan Owens died early Wednesday at Legacy Emanuel Hospital in Portland. Police say the boy's father, Detective Ed Owens, was off-duty and at home at the time of the shooting late Tuesday night. Police say the gun was not a sheriff's department-issued weapon and it was not immediately clear how the child obtained it. The sheriff's office mandates that its guns be kept in a safe when officers are at home. Sheriff Garry Lucas spent the night at the hospital with the boy's parents. On Wednesday, Lucas told reporters, "This is a tragedy for the family involved and our agency." Battle Ground police, Vancouver police and the sheriff's office are investigating. Leave it to gun baanning meddlers to say things like that. Accidents happen. There is no way to be totally safe. The family is devistated because of the death of the child by accident. perhaps we should prosecute your parents for your accidental conception. A three year old is killed while playing with one of daddy's loaded guns and you call it an accident? It was negligence at the very least. The father should be brought up on criminal charges. Asshole. If he was letting his kid run the chain saw or cut wood on the table saw or run the riding mower you might have a point. But guns are American, and the kid died like an American. Jim - You want my gun? Take it from my kid's cold dead hands. You have no shame, huh Hertvik? |
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says... In article , says... This is the third or fourth incident in our (outlying) area in the past several months in which a young life was taken. It's always entertaining reading your harrytales... "Third or Fourth"? What? German Screwdriver used to make a point??? Cite the three of four gun deaths (kids playing with guns, not just murder) in your area in the last few months? Oh wait, not "in your area" cause "your" area is special so it has to be "outlying", with the emphasis on "lying" to be sure. snerk I don't have to. Do you think I'd lie? |
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On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 22:39:38 -0400, wrote:
On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 15:41:01 -0700, jps wrote: On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 18:31:43 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:09:17 -0400, Secular Humorist wrote: A three year old is killed while playing with one of daddy's loaded guns and you call it an accident? It was negligence at the very least. The father should be brought up on criminal charges. I don't disagree as I said in my last note but being devil's advocate, would you feel the same way if the kid found the car keys and drove the car out in front of a school bus full of handicapped kids, driven by a pregnant woman? The even bigger question is how does the three year old tell the difference between your example bus and a bus filled with normal kids being driven by a barren woman? Given the choice, what which bus would the three year old hit? OK I just threw in the school bus, the handicapped kids and the pregnant woman to push as many buttons as possible but back to the point Would you throw a parent in jail if their kid found the car keys, got in the car and killed themselves someone else? It is a similar weapon, potentially deadly for whoever it hits. There is only one kind of dead. My point is: That this trouble with guns is so out of control that our best answer to negligence in gun safety has us prosecuting parents of dead kids? WTF is wrong with this picture? The cat is out of the bag and now we're coming up with idiotic answers because lawmakers are too scared of the gun lobby, it's money and political clout. |
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On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 08:24:13 -0400, Secular Humorist
wrote: jps wrote: On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:07:39 -0400, Lil Abner wrote: On 9/16/2010 11:54 AM, jps wrote: Because that's what our screwed up laws prescribe... God forbid we'd try to control the distribution of guns. BATTLE GROUND, Wash. (AP) - The 3-year-old son of a Clark County sheriff's detective has died after police say the boy accidentally shot himself in the head at the family's Battle Ground home. The Columbian says Ryan Owens died early Wednesday at Legacy Emanuel Hospital in Portland. Police say the boy's father, Detective Ed Owens, was off-duty and at home at the time of the shooting late Tuesday night. Police say the gun was not a sheriff's department-issued weapon and it was not immediately clear how the child obtained it. The sheriff's office mandates that its guns be kept in a safe when officers are at home. Sheriff Garry Lucas spent the night at the hospital with the boy's parents. On Wednesday, Lucas told reporters, "This is a tragedy for the family involved and our agency." Battle Ground police, Vancouver police and the sheriff's office are investigating. Leave it to gun baanning meddlers to say things like that. Accidents happen. There is no way to be totally safe. The family is devistated because of the death of the child by accident. perhaps we should prosecute your parents for your accidental conception. That's funny but I was planned. Accidents really can't be afforded in these situations. This can't be explained by "**** happens." A small child is dead and the parent is to blame. And, because we've let the cat out of the bag on small arms, the best thing our lawmakers can do is punish those who are stupid enough to leave their weapons within reach of innocents. Honestly, JPS, these sad incidents involving guns is not really why you want guns banned. OK, tell me why I want guns banned. Which, by the way, is not something I've said. |
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On 9/17/10 12:13 PM, jps wrote:
On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 22:39:38 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 15:41:01 -0700, wrote: On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 18:31:43 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:09:17 -0400, Secular Humorist wrote: A three year old is killed while playing with one of daddy's loaded guns and you call it an accident? It was negligence at the very least. The father should be brought up on criminal charges. I don't disagree as I said in my last note but being devil's advocate, would you feel the same way if the kid found the car keys and drove the car out in front of a school bus full of handicapped kids, driven by a pregnant woman? The even bigger question is how does the three year old tell the difference between your example bus and a bus filled with normal kids being driven by a barren woman? Given the choice, what which bus would the three year old hit? OK I just threw in the school bus, the handicapped kids and the pregnant woman to push as many buttons as possible but back to the point Would you throw a parent in jail if their kid found the car keys, got in the car and killed themselves someone else? It is a similar weapon, potentially deadly for whoever it hits. There is only one kind of dead. My point is: That this trouble with guns is so out of control that our best answer to negligence in gun safety has us prosecuting parents of dead kids? WTF is wrong with this picture? The cat is out of the bag and now we're coming up with idiotic answers because lawmakers are too scared of the gun lobby, it's money and political clout. Fretwell doesn't want anything done about anything, because everything is morally equivalent. Or some such nonsense. |
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On 9/17/10 12:15 PM, jps wrote:
On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 08:24:13 -0400, Secular Humorist wrote: jps wrote: On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:07:39 -0400, Lil wrote: On 9/16/2010 11:54 AM, jps wrote: Because that's what our screwed up laws prescribe... God forbid we'd try to control the distribution of guns. BATTLE GROUND, Wash. (AP) - The 3-year-old son of a Clark County sheriff's detective has died after police say the boy accidentally shot himself in the head at the family's Battle Ground home. The Columbian says Ryan Owens died early Wednesday at Legacy Emanuel Hospital in Portland. Police say the boy's father, Detective Ed Owens, was off-duty and at home at the time of the shooting late Tuesday night. Police say the gun was not a sheriff's department-issued weapon and it was not immediately clear how the child obtained it. The sheriff's office mandates that its guns be kept in a safe when officers are at home. Sheriff Garry Lucas spent the night at the hospital with the boy's parents. On Wednesday, Lucas told reporters, "This is a tragedy for the family involved and our agency." Battle Ground police, Vancouver police and the sheriff's office are investigating. Leave it to gun baanning meddlers to say things like that. Accidents happen. There is no way to be totally safe. The family is devistated because of the death of the child by accident. perhaps we should prosecute your parents for your accidental conception. That's funny but I was planned. Accidents really can't be afforded in these situations. This can't be explained by "**** happens." A small child is dead and the parent is to blame. And, because we've let the cat out of the bag on small arms, the best thing our lawmakers can do is punish those who are stupid enough to leave their weapons within reach of innocents. Honestly, JPS, these sad incidents involving guns is not really why you want guns banned. OK, tell me why I want guns banned. Which, by the way, is not something I've said. Sadly, you are responding to the ID spoofer, not me. He knows you aren't going to respond to him unless he pretends to be someone else. |
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"jps" wrote in message ... On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 22:39:38 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 15:41:01 -0700, jps wrote: On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 18:31:43 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:09:17 -0400, Secular Humorist wrote: A three year old is killed while playing with one of daddy's loaded guns and you call it an accident? It was negligence at the very least. The father should be brought up on criminal charges. I don't disagree as I said in my last note but being devil's advocate, would you feel the same way if the kid found the car keys and drove the car out in front of a school bus full of handicapped kids, driven by a pregnant woman? The even bigger question is how does the three year old tell the difference between your example bus and a bus filled with normal kids being driven by a barren woman? Given the choice, what which bus would the three year old hit? OK I just threw in the school bus, the handicapped kids and the pregnant woman to push as many buttons as possible but back to the point Would you throw a parent in jail if their kid found the car keys, got in the car and killed themselves someone else? It is a similar weapon, potentially deadly for whoever it hits. There is only one kind of dead. My point is: That this trouble with guns is so out of control that our best answer to negligence in gun safety has us prosecuting parents of dead kids? WTF is wrong with this picture? The cat is out of the bag and now we're coming up with idiotic answers because lawmakers are too scared of the gun lobby, it's money and political clout. Well, adults are typically legally responsible for their children's behavior, so from a legal standpoint, it makes some sense. You're right that it doesn't help much after the fact of the death, but by that logic we might as well let murderers go without penalty, or at least the ones that murdered with some justification... spousal abuse reaction, whatever. I don't know if gun locks are worth it or not, but if you saw Moore's Bowling for Columbine, it isn't about the number of guns. It's about the society in which they exist. |
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On 9/17/10 2:50 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
"jps" wrote in message ... On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 22:39:38 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 15:41:01 -0700, jps wrote: On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 18:31:43 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:09:17 -0400, Secular Humorist wrote: A three year old is killed while playing with one of daddy's loaded guns and you call it an accident? It was negligence at the very least. The father should be brought up on criminal charges. I don't disagree as I said in my last note but being devil's advocate, would you feel the same way if the kid found the car keys and drove the car out in front of a school bus full of handicapped kids, driven by a pregnant woman? The even bigger question is how does the three year old tell the difference between your example bus and a bus filled with normal kids being driven by a barren woman? Given the choice, what which bus would the three year old hit? OK I just threw in the school bus, the handicapped kids and the pregnant woman to push as many buttons as possible but back to the point Would you throw a parent in jail if their kid found the car keys, got in the car and killed themselves someone else? It is a similar weapon, potentially deadly for whoever it hits. There is only one kind of dead. My point is: That this trouble with guns is so out of control that our best answer to negligence in gun safety has us prosecuting parents of dead kids? WTF is wrong with this picture? The cat is out of the bag and now we're coming up with idiotic answers because lawmakers are too scared of the gun lobby, it's money and political clout. Well, adults are typically legally responsible for their children's behavior, so from a legal standpoint, it makes some sense. You're right that it doesn't help much after the fact of the death, but by that logic we might as well let murderers go without penalty, or at least the ones that murdered with some justification... spousal abuse reaction, whatever. I don't know if gun locks are worth it or not, but if you saw Moore's Bowling for Columbine, it isn't about the number of guns. It's about the society in which they exist. I'm in favor of loading up the teaparty ninnies with firearms and crank, and turning 'em loose on each other. You know, to improve the gene pool. :) |
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On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:50:14 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote: "jps" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 22:39:38 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 15:41:01 -0700, jps wrote: On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 18:31:43 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:09:17 -0400, Secular Humorist wrote: A three year old is killed while playing with one of daddy's loaded guns and you call it an accident? It was negligence at the very least. The father should be brought up on criminal charges. I don't disagree as I said in my last note but being devil's advocate, would you feel the same way if the kid found the car keys and drove the car out in front of a school bus full of handicapped kids, driven by a pregnant woman? The even bigger question is how does the three year old tell the difference between your example bus and a bus filled with normal kids being driven by a barren woman? Given the choice, what which bus would the three year old hit? OK I just threw in the school bus, the handicapped kids and the pregnant woman to push as many buttons as possible but back to the point Would you throw a parent in jail if their kid found the car keys, got in the car and killed themselves someone else? It is a similar weapon, potentially deadly for whoever it hits. There is only one kind of dead. My point is: That this trouble with guns is so out of control that our best answer to negligence in gun safety has us prosecuting parents of dead kids? WTF is wrong with this picture? The cat is out of the bag and now we're coming up with idiotic answers because lawmakers are too scared of the gun lobby, it's money and political clout. Well, adults are typically legally responsible for their children's behavior, so from a legal standpoint, it makes some sense. You're right that it doesn't help much after the fact of the death, but by that logic we might as well let murderers go without penalty, or at least the ones that murdered with some justification... spousal abuse reaction, whatever. I don't know if gun locks are worth it or not, but if you saw Moore's Bowling for Columbine, it isn't about the number of guns. It's about the society in which they exist. Yes, proof positive that our society and guns don't mix well. Let's get more and cheaper out there and take ****ing forever to close the gun show loophole. The loon shot in DC today will get sentenced and serve whatever time, is then free to jump in his car and head right to Virginia for a gun show where they couldn't care liess if the guy is insane, a criminal or criminally insane. If we can't even control that situation, what's the chance of having a reasonable approach to gun ownership and safety. These gun freaks should all have to serve time in a trauma unit. |
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On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:19:43 -0400, Secular Humorist
wrote: On 9/17/10 12:15 PM, jps wrote: On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 08:24:13 -0400, Secular Humorist wrote: jps wrote: On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:07:39 -0400, Lil wrote: On 9/16/2010 11:54 AM, jps wrote: Because that's what our screwed up laws prescribe... God forbid we'd try to control the distribution of guns. BATTLE GROUND, Wash. (AP) - The 3-year-old son of a Clark County sheriff's detective has died after police say the boy accidentally shot himself in the head at the family's Battle Ground home. The Columbian says Ryan Owens died early Wednesday at Legacy Emanuel Hospital in Portland. Police say the boy's father, Detective Ed Owens, was off-duty and at home at the time of the shooting late Tuesday night. Police say the gun was not a sheriff's department-issued weapon and it was not immediately clear how the child obtained it. The sheriff's office mandates that its guns be kept in a safe when officers are at home. Sheriff Garry Lucas spent the night at the hospital with the boy's parents. On Wednesday, Lucas told reporters, "This is a tragedy for the family involved and our agency." Battle Ground police, Vancouver police and the sheriff's office are investigating. Leave it to gun baanning meddlers to say things like that. Accidents happen. There is no way to be totally safe. The family is devistated because of the death of the child by accident. perhaps we should prosecute your parents for your accidental conception. That's funny but I was planned. Accidents really can't be afforded in these situations. This can't be explained by "**** happens." A small child is dead and the parent is to blame. And, because we've let the cat out of the bag on small arms, the best thing our lawmakers can do is punish those who are stupid enough to leave their weapons within reach of innocents. Honestly, JPS, these sad incidents involving guns is not really why you want guns banned. OK, tell me why I want guns banned. Which, by the way, is not something I've said. Sadly, you are responding to the ID spoofer, not me. He knows you aren't going to respond to him unless he pretends to be someone else. Sorry, I thought you were being coy so I was interested. Should have known it was from a dweeb. |
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jps wrote:
On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 22:39:38 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 15:41:01 -0700, wrote: On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 18:31:43 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:09:17 -0400, Secular Humorist wrote: A three year old is killed while playing with one of daddy's loaded guns and you call it an accident? It was negligence at the very least. The father should be brought up on criminal charges. I don't disagree as I said in my last note but being devil's advocate, would you feel the same way if the kid found the car keys and drove the car out in front of a school bus full of handicapped kids, driven by a pregnant woman? The even bigger question is how does the three year old tell the difference between your example bus and a bus filled with normal kids being driven by a barren woman? Given the choice, what which bus would the three year old hit? OK I just threw in the school bus, the handicapped kids and the pregnant woman to push as many buttons as possible but back to the point Would you throw a parent in jail if their kid found the car keys, got in the car and killed themselves someone else? It is a similar weapon, potentially deadly for whoever it hits. There is only one kind of dead. My point is: That this trouble with guns is so out of control that our best answer to negligence in gun safety has us prosecuting parents of dead kids? WTF is wrong with this picture? The cat is out of the bag and now we're coming up with idiotic answers because lawmakers are too scared of the gun lobby, it's money and political clout. Darwinism. |
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On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 21:47:18 -0400, LG wrote:
jps wrote: On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 22:39:38 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 15:41:01 -0700, wrote: On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 18:31:43 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:09:17 -0400, Secular Humorist wrote: A three year old is killed while playing with one of daddy's loaded guns and you call it an accident? It was negligence at the very least. The father should be brought up on criminal charges. I don't disagree as I said in my last note but being devil's advocate, would you feel the same way if the kid found the car keys and drove the car out in front of a school bus full of handicapped kids, driven by a pregnant woman? The even bigger question is how does the three year old tell the difference between your example bus and a bus filled with normal kids being driven by a barren woman? Given the choice, what which bus would the three year old hit? OK I just threw in the school bus, the handicapped kids and the pregnant woman to push as many buttons as possible but back to the point Would you throw a parent in jail if their kid found the car keys, got in the car and killed themselves someone else? It is a similar weapon, potentially deadly for whoever it hits. There is only one kind of dead. My point is: That this trouble with guns is so out of control that our best answer to negligence in gun safety has us prosecuting parents of dead kids? WTF is wrong with this picture? The cat is out of the bag and now we're coming up with idiotic answers because lawmakers are too scared of the gun lobby, it's money and political clout. Darwinism. You're going to use darwin to explain the death of a 3 year old? |
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says... In article , says... You're going to use darwin to explain the death of a 3 year old? Should the parents of a 3 year old who is not in a car seat be thrown in jail if the child is killed in an accident? Yes! -- OH, I could do the 105 footer, but I would hate to waste the last few seconds of my life with my eyes closed, screaming like a little girl...;) |
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"jps" wrote in message ... On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 22:39:38 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 15:41:01 -0700, jps wrote: On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 18:31:43 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:09:17 -0400, Secular Humorist wrote: A three year old is killed while playing with one of daddy's loaded guns and you call it an accident? It was negligence at the very least. The father should be brought up on criminal charges. I don't disagree as I said in my last note but being devil's advocate, would you feel the same way if the kid found the car keys and drove the car out in front of a school bus full of handicapped kids, driven by a pregnant woman? The even bigger question is how does the three year old tell the difference between your example bus and a bus filled with normal kids being driven by a barren woman? Given the choice, what which bus would the three year old hit? OK I just threw in the school bus, the handicapped kids and the pregnant woman to push as many buttons as possible but back to the point Would you throw a parent in jail if their kid found the car keys, got in the car and killed themselves someone else? It is a similar weapon, potentially deadly for whoever it hits. There is only one kind of dead. My point is: That this trouble with guns is so out of control that our best answer to negligence in gun safety has us prosecuting parents of dead kids? WTF is wrong with this picture? WTF is wrong with holding people responsible for their actions??? |
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On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 11:33:11 -0400, BAR wrote: In article , says... You're going to use darwin to explain the death of a 3 year old? Should the parents of a 3 year old who is not in a car seat be thrown in jail if the child is killed in an accident? Again, just like the gun, they would charge the parent in Florida for a child not in a car seat. I suppose that is OK too. In the infamous "moral equivalency" business, what is the difference? We have decided there are no accidents, only criminal offenses, if a kid is killed. I suppose you know, the National Electrical Code now requires all receptacles are child proof (shuttered). What a load of BS. You're qualifying as a gun-nut real fast. You and the others talking about rocks, knives and cars are just full of ****. Probably just don't like jps. Got nothing to do "moral equivalency." Got nothing to do with rocks, cars, knives or electricity. They ain't designed to kill. Guns are designed to kill. The purpose of a gun is to kill. And for daddy, it worked as designed on his 3 year-old. There was no ****ing "accident." The gun worked perfectly and did its job. Daddy did no different than if he ushered a lion or grizzly bear into his 3 year-old's bedroom and shut the door. I don't care one way or another about guns. Outlaw them or make everybody carry. Probably won't make difference. But it really takes a gun nut to defend this prick daddy. I don't say throw him in jail, because he killed his own blood. If it was neighbors kid he should get 20 years in the clink. But he should never be allowed to possess a firearm again. You're either for "personal responsibility" or you ain't. Jim - Lame arguments are still better than name-calling I say. |
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wrote: On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 11:33:11 -0400, BAR wrote: In article , says... You're going to use darwin to explain the death of a 3 year old? Should the parents of a 3 year old who is not in a car seat be thrown in jail if the child is killed in an accident? Again, just like the gun, they would charge the parent in Florida for a child not in a car seat. I suppose that is OK too. In the infamous "moral equivalency" business, what is the difference? We have decided there are no accidents, only criminal offenses, if a kid is killed. I suppose you know, the National Electrical Code now requires all receptacles are child proof (shuttered). What a load of BS. You're qualifying as a gun-nut real fast. You and the others talking about rocks, knives and cars are just full of ****. Probably just don't like jps. Got nothing to do "moral equivalency." Got nothing to do with rocks, cars, knives or electricity. They ain't designed to kill. Guns are designed to kill. The purpose of a gun is to kill. And for daddy, it worked as designed on his 3 year-old. There was no ****ing "accident." The gun worked perfectly and did its job. Daddy did no different than if he ushered a lion or grizzly bear into his 3 year-old's bedroom and shut the door. I don't care one way or another about guns. Outlaw them or make everybody carry. Probably won't make difference. But it really takes a gun nut to defend this prick daddy. I don't say throw him in jail, because he killed his own blood. If it was neighbors kid he should get 20 years in the clink. But he should never be allowed to possess a firearm again. You're either for "personal responsibility" or you ain't. Jim - Lame arguments are still better than name-calling I say. Knives are designed to kill. Swords are designed to kill. Arrows are designed to kill. It is not the object it is the intent of the user of the object. The object just makes it easier and faster for the user to implement his intent. |
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says... My point is: That this trouble with guns is so out of control that our best answer to negligence in gun safety has us prosecuting parents of dead kids? WTF is wrong with this picture? The cat is out of the bag and now we're coming up with idiotic answers because lawmakers are too scared of the gun lobby, it's money and political clout. Fretwell doesn't want anything done about anything, because everything is morally equivalent. Or some such nonsense. It is called freedom. Once we decide it is OK to ban something because it might hurt someone where do you stop. Cars kill as many as guns. Why not start there? How about banning boats? Maybe just restricting them to 5 MPH? Oops, that has already happened here over hundreds of square miles., not to save humans, to save manatees. http://www.nj.com/hobokennow/index.s..._woman_says_bo yfrie.html Ban all cats! |
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wrote in message ... On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:16:39 -0400, Secular Humorist wrote: On 9/17/10 12:13 PM, jps wrote: On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 22:39:38 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 15:41:01 -0700, wrote: On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 18:31:43 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:09:17 -0400, Secular Humorist wrote: A three year old is killed while playing with one of daddy's loaded guns and you call it an accident? It was negligence at the very least. The father should be brought up on criminal charges. I don't disagree as I said in my last note but being devil's advocate, would you feel the same way if the kid found the car keys and drove the car out in front of a school bus full of handicapped kids, driven by a pregnant woman? The even bigger question is how does the three year old tell the difference between your example bus and a bus filled with normal kids being driven by a barren woman? Given the choice, what which bus would the three year old hit? OK I just threw in the school bus, the handicapped kids and the pregnant woman to push as many buttons as possible but back to the point Would you throw a parent in jail if their kid found the car keys, got in the car and killed themselves someone else? It is a similar weapon, potentially deadly for whoever it hits. There is only one kind of dead. My point is: That this trouble with guns is so out of control that our best answer to negligence in gun safety has us prosecuting parents of dead kids? WTF is wrong with this picture? The cat is out of the bag and now we're coming up with idiotic answers because lawmakers are too scared of the gun lobby, it's money and political clout. Fretwell doesn't want anything done about anything, because everything is morally equivalent. Or some such nonsense. It is called freedom. Once we decide it is OK to ban something because it might hurt someone where do you stop. Cars kill as many as guns. Why not start there? How about banning boats? Maybe just restricting them to 5 MPH? Oops, that has already happened here over hundreds of square miles., not to save humans, to save manatees. Completely fallacious argument. By that logic, we should have no regulations, no criminal laws, and total anarchy. Oops... we already have speed limits for cars. Get used to it! |
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wrote in message ... On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 11:33:11 -0400, BAR wrote: In article , says... You're going to use darwin to explain the death of a 3 year old? Should the parents of a 3 year old who is not in a car seat be thrown in jail if the child is killed in an accident? Again, just like the gun, they would charge the parent in Florida for a child not in a car seat. I suppose that is OK too. In the infamous "moral equivalency" business, what is the difference? We have decided there are no accidents, only criminal offenses, if a kid is killed. I suppose you know, the National Electrical Code now requires all receptacles are child proof (shuttered). So, to hell with child safety? That's what you're arguing for... let's go back to the robber barrons... http://tinyurl.com/2f57cwl |
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"BAR" wrote in message . .. In article , says... wrote: On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 11:33:11 -0400, BAR wrote: In article , says... You're going to use darwin to explain the death of a 3 year old? Should the parents of a 3 year old who is not in a car seat be thrown in jail if the child is killed in an accident? Again, just like the gun, they would charge the parent in Florida for a child not in a car seat. I suppose that is OK too. In the infamous "moral equivalency" business, what is the difference? We have decided there are no accidents, only criminal offenses, if a kid is killed. I suppose you know, the National Electrical Code now requires all receptacles are child proof (shuttered). What a load of BS. You're qualifying as a gun-nut real fast. You and the others talking about rocks, knives and cars are just full of ****. Probably just don't like jps. Got nothing to do "moral equivalency." Got nothing to do with rocks, cars, knives or electricity. They ain't designed to kill. Guns are designed to kill. The purpose of a gun is to kill. And for daddy, it worked as designed on his 3 year-old. There was no ****ing "accident." The gun worked perfectly and did its job. Daddy did no different than if he ushered a lion or grizzly bear into his 3 year-old's bedroom and shut the door. I don't care one way or another about guns. Outlaw them or make everybody carry. Probably won't make difference. But it really takes a gun nut to defend this prick daddy. I don't say throw him in jail, because he killed his own blood. If it was neighbors kid he should get 20 years in the clink. But he should never be allowed to possess a firearm again. You're either for "personal responsibility" or you ain't. Jim - Lame arguments are still better than name-calling I say. Knives are designed to kill. Swords are designed to kill. Arrows are designed to kill. It is not the object it is the intent of the user of the object. The object just makes it easier and faster for the user to implement his intent. No they aren't. They're designed to cut. Some swords are ceremonial. Arrows? Like this: --- Seems harmless enough. |
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In article , says... wrote: On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 11:33:11 -0400, BAR wrote: In article , says... You're going to use darwin to explain the death of a 3 year old? Should the parents of a 3 year old who is not in a car seat be thrown in jail if the child is killed in an accident? Again, just like the gun, they would charge the parent in Florida for a child not in a car seat. I suppose that is OK too. In the infamous "moral equivalency" business, what is the difference? We have decided there are no accidents, only criminal offenses, if a kid is killed. I suppose you know, the National Electrical Code now requires all receptacles are child proof (shuttered). What a load of BS. You're qualifying as a gun-nut real fast. You and the others talking about rocks, knives and cars are just full of ****. Probably just don't like jps. Got nothing to do "moral equivalency." Got nothing to do with rocks, cars, knives or electricity. They ain't designed to kill. Guns are designed to kill. The purpose of a gun is to kill. And for daddy, it worked as designed on his 3 year-old. There was no ****ing "accident." The gun worked perfectly and did its job. Daddy did no different than if he ushered a lion or grizzly bear into his 3 year-old's bedroom and shut the door. I don't care one way or another about guns. Outlaw them or make everybody carry. Probably won't make difference. But it really takes a gun nut to defend this prick daddy. I don't say throw him in jail, because he killed his own blood. If it was neighbors kid he should get 20 years in the clink. But he should never be allowed to possess a firearm again. You're either for "personal responsibility" or you ain't. Jim - Lame arguments are still better than name-calling I say. Knives are designed to kill. Swords are designed to kill. Arrows are designed to kill. It is not the object it is the intent of the user of the object. The object just makes it easier and faster for the user to implement his intent. Stone-age thoughts from a stone-age mind. Bring that **** to a gun fight. Don't forget your sling and javelin. If you don't know the difference between leaving that stone-age crap or a loaded firearm where your 3 year-old kid can get to it, you'll never understand the concept of personal responsibility. Probably don't even know a 3 year-old kid can't blow his brains clear out with a finger squeeze on that stone-age crap either. Others here were talking about the 3 year-old grabbing the car keys and taking a spin. Then they start talking about rocks and baby seats and the ****ing National Electric Code. Now here you are saying a 3 year-old will blow his brains out with an arrow or hari-kari his brains out with a sword anyway. So hell, a loaded gun is no worse. It's all the same. Jim - Figured I'd hear this kind of nonsense. It's rec.boats. |
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