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On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:06:24 -0700, jps wrote:

Maybe it is time for a real thrust to buy American but that never
really takes off when you see the price tags.

Really? I bought a 23 year old german car rather than a new American
car. Why? Quality. The 23 year old car rides, drives better despite
lacking 23 years of technical progress.

The 23 year old car was more expensive than most modern American boxes
but it won't depreciate like the American pieces of crap.

I'd much rather purchase a superior American product, even at a higher
price. They aren't offered anymore because cheap **** imported by
Walmart, Target and others have flooded the shelves.

You just said two different things.

He just loves his German screw drivers. I wonder if there are any
quality
American toolmakers left?- Hide quoted text -

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It is difficult to find a lot of items of any quality anymore, even if
you spend the dollars. From clothes, to services, to restraunts...
Nobody cares enough about quality to build it, and our (Americans)
interest in it went out the window decades ago...


Whoops... wholesale inventories rise - seven months in a row. It must be
Obama's fault!

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=127901911



Retail ain't buying.

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On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:06:24 -0700, jps wrote:

Maybe it is time for a real thrust to buy American but that never
really takes off when you see the price tags.

Really? I bought a 23 year old german car rather than a new American
car. Why? Quality. The 23 year old car rides, drives better
despite
lacking 23 years of technical progress.

The 23 year old car was more expensive than most modern American
boxes
but it won't depreciate like the American pieces of crap.

I'd much rather purchase a superior American product, even at a
higher
price. They aren't offered anymore because cheap **** imported by
Walmart, Target and others have flooded the shelves.

You just said two different things.

He just loves his German screw drivers. I wonder if there are any
quality
American toolmakers left?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

It is difficult to find a lot of items of any quality anymore, even if
you spend the dollars. From clothes, to services, to restraunts...
Nobody cares enough about quality to build it, and our (Americans)
interest in it went out the window decades ago...


Whoops... wholesale inventories rise - seven months in a row. It must be
Obama's fault!

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=127901911



Retail ain't buying.


You didn't even read the article. Inventories are up. Buying is sluggish,
but the seven month rise in inventories is a very good sign, as much as
you'd like to think otherwise.


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On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 21:42:23 GMT, "Colonel Kurtz"
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On 10-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote:

the
door at Walmart.

Thought you should have an update - the jackass in the White House just
announced an intent to grant tax breaks for the evil "rich


actually for small businesses...quite a different thing


You missed the asshole's point - it's to businesses - the people you losers
blame for your lack of a decent income.


at this point, saving jobs is priority 1. of course america will
NEVER go for redressing the inequity in wages. americans love the
rich more than they love their children

It is good for him to do, however,
investment for R & D will develop new tool designs and processes so the
products can be produced economically overseas. He (President Dip****) was
just pandering to the few companies left in the United States.


fine. when you can show me that his tax cut goes overseas you'll have
an argument.

until then, it's just more right wing bull****


What the dumb ******* SHOULD do is invite owners and CEO's of every industry
that had to flee the U.S. to the White House and ask them what is needed for
them to produce in the U.S. That won't happen as long as he gets votes for
sending your money to people for studying the sexual proclivities of
earthworms, while pandering to the lazy masses that the evil "corporations"
are their enemy.


we already KNOW what's needed to produce in the US. an international
agreement limiting wage CUTS and forcing companies to spend more on
their WORKERS

but the right would NEVER go for this. to them, only the rich are
important


You can't cure stupid, and it reproduces rapidly.


i know. that's why the GOP will wiln the next election

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On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 21:49:46 GMT, "Colonel Kurtz"
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On 10-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote:

door at Walmart.


?? uh...if you define the middle class as the middle 70% or so of wage
earners, then they can, by all means, be poor AND getting poorer
compared to their own history.


That would make sense to anyone that couldn't pass a breatylizer.


IOW you think the idea of middle class hasnt changed in 100 years.

uh huh. so what's your drink of choice?



you seem to have a thing about wal mart, not realizing that people
shop there BECAUSE that's in lieu of a pay in crease that right
wingers have denied middle class workers


They pay 2 to 3 times as much than if they bought a product that would last
more than a couple weeks. Based on your "theory," the "poor" are making
themselves poorer.


uh no. you seem to ignore that only the US has a 'great divergence'
problem...a. BIG spread between the middle class and the rich. ONLY
the US.



All the foreign crap you buy is not from Walmart - all retail marketing
companies sell everything foreign - being the biggest, they're (Walmart) is
just symbolic of the greater problem. That will never be understood by the
waddling masses.


the foreign crap is irrelevant. we buy foreign because the rich limit
our wage increases. you continue to blame main street.


What's so difficult to comprehend about sending the majority of your wages
overseas or to the government with the result of being unemployed?


what's so hard to understand that the middle class has had NO real
increase in wages in almost 4 decades?

what does that have to do with walmart?

answer: nothing.

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On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:06:24 -0700, jps wrote:

Maybe it is time for a real thrust to buy American but that never
really takes off when you see the price tags.

Really? I bought a 23 year old german car rather than a new
American
car. Why? Quality. The 23 year old car rides, drives better
despite
lacking 23 years of technical progress.

The 23 year old car was more expensive than most modern American
boxes
but it won't depreciate like the American pieces of crap.

I'd much rather purchase a superior American product, even at a
higher
price. They aren't offered anymore because cheap **** imported by
Walmart, Target and others have flooded the shelves.

You just said two different things.

He just loves his German screw drivers. I wonder if there are any
quality
American toolmakers left?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

It is difficult to find a lot of items of any quality anymore, even if
you spend the dollars. From clothes, to services, to restraunts...
Nobody cares enough about quality to build it, and our (Americans)
interest in it went out the window decades ago...

Whoops... wholesale inventories rise - seven months in a row. It must
be
Obama's fault!

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=127901911



Retail ain't buying.


You didn't even read the article. Inventories are up. Buying is sluggish,
but the seven month rise in inventories is a very good sign, as much as
you'd like to think otherwise.


Huh?
I was curious about your first comment on this but rising inventories
is not a good thing. That is "built and unsold".

They have more product on the shelf gathering dust than they can sell.
It means they are ready to shut down the line.


Well, you'd be wrong. Manufacturers don't make more of something without the
likelihood the somethings are going to sell. If you had read the article,
you would have read that they're right where they should be. Rising
inventories are a good thing.


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On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:06:24 -0700, jps wrote:

Maybe it is time for a real thrust to buy American but that never
really takes off when you see the price tags.

Really? I bought a 23 year old german car rather than a new
American
car. Why? Quality. The 23 year old car rides, drives better
despite
lacking 23 years of technical progress.

The 23 year old car was more expensive than most modern American
boxes
but it won't depreciate like the American pieces of crap.

I'd much rather purchase a superior American product, even at a
higher
price. They aren't offered anymore because cheap **** imported by
Walmart, Target and others have flooded the shelves.

You just said two different things.

He just loves his German screw drivers. I wonder if there are any
quality
American toolmakers left?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

It is difficult to find a lot of items of any quality anymore, even if
you spend the dollars. From clothes, to services, to restraunts...
Nobody cares enough about quality to build it, and our (Americans)
interest in it went out the window decades ago...

Whoops... wholesale inventories rise - seven months in a row. It must
be
Obama's fault!

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=127901911



Retail ain't buying.

You didn't even read the article. Inventories are up. Buying is sluggish,
but the seven month rise in inventories is a very good sign, as much as
you'd like to think otherwise.


Huh?
I was curious about your first comment on this but rising inventories
is not a good thing. That is "built and unsold".

They have more product on the shelf gathering dust than they can sell.
It means they are ready to shut down the line.


Well, you'd be wrong. Manufacturers don't make more of something without the
likelihood the somethings are going to sell. If you had read the article,
you would have read that they're right where they should be. Rising
inventories are a good thing.



I wish for you an ever rising inventory, you dip****.
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On Wed, 08 Sep 2010 23:35:54 -0700, jps wrote:

On Thu, 09 Sep 2010 01:22:46 -0400,
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On Wed, 08 Sep 2010 21:31:57 -0400, lil abner wrote:

One small business went out
that was building construction materials. However Lowes and Home Depot
are still around.

They sell Chinese products on the cheap. They are still pretty slow.
You certainly have no problem finding a parking space. Finding someone
who knows anything in the store is tough tho. They are running pretty
lean.
Their business model is "this is a do it yourself store", If you want
to find something, do it yourself. If you want it tied on your car, do
it yourself. Most HD/Lowes these days even want you to check your
stuff out yourself.

I hate all the Chinese crap they sell. I look for alternatives
whenever possible. It's getting harder every day.


Maybe it is time for a real thrust to buy American but that never
really takes off when you see the price tags.


Really? I bought a 23 year old german car rather than a new American
car. Why? Quality. The 23 year old car rides, drives better despite
lacking 23 years of technical progress.

The 23 year old car was more expensive than most modern American boxes
but it won't depreciate like the American pieces of crap.

I'd much rather purchase a superior American product, even at a higher
price. They aren't offered anymore because cheap **** imported by
Walmart, Target and others have flooded the shelves.


What is the cost of repairing your 23 year old german car?


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On 10-Sep-2010, lil abner wrote:

There is no equity in contracts. Their goal of depressing Americans
economy to bring us to parity with the third world is fast approaching.


I've been explaining that for 20 years - when equilibrium is reached,
production might return to the U,.S. Unfortunately for those that lived when
the U.S. was successful, equilibrium will be achieved by the 3rd world
moving slightly up, and the U.S. moving severely down.
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On 10-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote:

It is good for him to do, however,
investment for R & D will develop new tool designs and processes so the
products can be produced economically overseas. He (President Dip****)
was
just pandering to the few companies left in the United States.


fine. when you can show me that his tax cut goes overseas you'll have
an argument.


I have NO argument, just information for those who are unable to observe
their surroundings.

The tax advantages promised (not implemented) will spurn development that
will result in jobs in Japan, Korea, China, India and Viet Nam. Obama won't
send money there; you will. You don't want to do anything about that.


until then, it's just more right wing bull****


THEN, more inhabitants waiting for someone ELSE to "do something!!!"
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