"Colonel Kurtz" wrote in message
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On 8-Sep-2010, Wayne.B wrote:

There are no complicated concepts in Rand's books. The books are
long-winded, but they're pretty straightforward. They're fiction, but
the

neocons used them as a blueprint for wrecking the US economy. They
haven't
given up.

I'd be interested in hearing about exactly what you think the so
called "neocons" did to wreck the US economy. The war in Iraq was
ill advised and increased debt but hardly wrecked the economy. The
deregulation of Wall Street was already well along under the Clinton
administration. Relaxation of mortgage lending standards began in
the Clinton administration. What else?

One way trade agreements that bled all productivity from the U.S.,
initiated
by Clinton with the most favorite nation status, and NAFTA, originally
promoted by Bush 1. The maniacs however all blame W because they want
higher welfare checks and didn't think it might happen until the current
jackass took office. It WON'T happen (lowest income rate goes up 50% on
January 1, 2011) now either, but the mindless worship will continue. The
key word is mindless.

Well, wait a sec. You're a maniac and you don't blame W.

"Colonel Kurtz" wrote in message
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On 8-Sep-2010, "nom=de=plume" wrote:

99% of the posters here couldn't read Ayn Rand - too many big words, no
bedwetting welfare philiosophy, it's takes more than 30 minutes, and it
would interrupt Dancing for Dollars.

There are no complicated concepts in Rand's books. The books are
long-winded, but they're pretty straightforward. They're fiction, but the
neocons used them as a blueprint for wrecking the US economy. They
haven't

given up.

When the concepts implied in the writings were in place, the U.S. was
growing exponentially, uneducated millions were making good wages and all
were successful. Now (since the 70's) handouts from the productive
minority
(who are now gone) have taken priority, and the masses have to move back
to
concrete housing complexes.

Productivity and profit are the goals (your wages are YOUR profit) but
they're undermined by the slime you've elected. No more handouts due to
bankruptcy, no more core industries, no more jobs. Handouts WHICH CAME
FROM
YOU IN THE FIRST PLACE cannot make you whole, and are making you broke.

You're the slime in this conversation.

On Wed, 08 Sep 2010 17:25:15 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Wed, 8 Sep 2010 10:07:05 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

There are no complicated concepts in Rand's books. The books are
long-winded, but they're pretty straightforward. They're fiction, but the
neocons used them as a blueprint for wrecking the US economy. They haven't
given up.

I'd be interested in hearing about exactly what you think the so
called "neocons" did to wreck the US economy.

American imperialism in the mid-east to the tune of 3 trillion,
giveaways to the rich to the tune of 1 trillion. Rabid support of the
push for least cost labor that's undermined the US economy and the
entire middle class.

Need more?

On Wed, 8 Sep 2010 19:56:20 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 8 Sep 2010 15:31:49 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Oh come on Wayne... the neocons stated objective is to destroy the middle
class and the economy in general

I've never heard anyone say that, right, left, or middle of the road.
You are regurgitating the talking points of the left without adding
any substance.


It is classic disaster capitalism, and was openly stated by several in the
previous administration, e.g., Paul Wolfowitz. Read Naomi Wolf's The Shock
Doctrine and get back to us. You don't read enough, apparently.

I have always tried to keep the wolves from the door, fairly
successfully I might add.

It seems strange to me that anyone advocating the destruction of the
economy and the middle class wouldn't have gotten more publicity.
Perhaps you are misinterpreting?

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 8 Sep 2010 19:56:20 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 8 Sep 2010 15:31:49 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Oh come on Wayne... the neocons stated objective is to destroy the middle
class and the economy in general

I've never heard anyone say that, right, left, or middle of the road.
You are regurgitating the talking points of the left without adding
any substance.


It is classic disaster capitalism, and was openly stated by several in the
previous administration, e.g., Paul Wolfowitz. Read Naomi Wolf's The Shock
Doctrine and get back to us. You don't read enough, apparently.

I have always tried to keep the wolves from the door, fairly
successfully I might add.

It seems strange to me that anyone advocating the destruction of the
economy and the middle class wouldn't have gotten more publicity.
Perhaps you are misinterpreting?

She probably got it from Olbermann or Matthews.. They often start
questions or interviews with lies like that, it's just what political
activists do.

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!

On 9/9/10 10:08 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On Wed, 8 Sep 2010 19:56:20 -0700,
wrote:


wrote in message
...
On Wed, 8 Sep 2010 15:31:49 -0700,
wrote:

Oh come on Wayne... the neocons stated objective is to destroy the middle
class and the economy in general

I've never heard anyone say that, right, left, or middle of the road.
You are regurgitating the talking points of the left without adding
any substance.


It is classic disaster capitalism, and was openly stated by several in the
previous administration, e.g., Paul Wolfowitz. Read Naomi Wolf's The Shock
Doctrine and get back to us. You don't read enough, apparently.

I have always tried to keep the wolves from the door, fairly
successfully I might add.

It seems strange to me that anyone advocating the destruction of the
economy and the middle class wouldn't have gotten more publicity.
Perhaps you are misinterpreting?

She probably got it from Olbermann or Matthews.. They often start
questions or interviews with lies like that, it's just what political
activists do.


So early in the am, and you're already under the influence, eh?

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On Wed, 8 Sep 2010 19:56:20 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 8 Sep 2010 15:31:49 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Oh come on Wayne... the neocons stated objective is to destroy the
middle
class and the economy in general

I've never heard anyone say that, right, left, or middle of the road.
You are regurgitating the talking points of the left without adding
any substance.


It is classic disaster capitalism, and was openly stated by several in the
previous administration, e.g., Paul Wolfowitz. Read Naomi Wolf's The Shock
Doctrine and get back to us. You don't read enough, apparently.

I have always tried to keep the wolves from the door, fairly
successfully I might add.

It seems strange to me that anyone advocating the destruction of the
economy and the middle class wouldn't have gotten more publicity.
Perhaps you are misinterpreting?



I guess you never heard of the neocons who were running this country for the
last couple of decades? Their stated plan is to bankrupt the federal
government and make over the country based on their twisted notion of free
market uber alles.

http://www.slate.com/id/2231268/

"I am Tosk" wrote in message
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In article ,
says...

On Wed, 8 Sep 2010 19:56:20 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 8 Sep 2010 15:31:49 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Oh come on Wayne... the neocons stated objective is to destroy the
middle
class and the economy in general

I've never heard anyone say that, right, left, or middle of the road.
You are regurgitating the talking points of the left without adding
any substance.


It is classic disaster capitalism, and was openly stated by several in
the
previous administration, e.g., Paul Wolfowitz. Read Naomi Wolf's The
Shock
Doctrine and get back to us. You don't read enough, apparently.

I have always tried to keep the wolves from the door, fairly
successfully I might add.

It seems strange to me that anyone advocating the destruction of the
economy and the middle class wouldn't have gotten more publicity.
Perhaps you are misinterpreting?

She probably got it from Olbermann or Matthews.. They often start
questions or interviews with lies like that, it's just what political
activists do.

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!

You probably get your news from Beck/Palin. When is the former and the
republican leadership going to stand up and say no to book burning?

On 9-Sep-2010, "nom=de=plume" wrote:

It seems strange to me that anyone advocating the destruction of the
economy and the middle class wouldn't have gotten more publicity.
Perhaps you are misinterpreting?



I guess you never heard of the neocons who were running this country for
the
last couple of decades? Their stated plan is to bankrupt the federal
government and make over the country based on their twisted notion of free

market uber alles.

You were correct - he gets this kind of rant from the idiot box. This is
what happens when you have no useful skills or education.

On 8-Sep-2010, "nom=de=plume" wrote:

One way trade agreements that bled all productivity from the U.S.,
initiated
by Clinton with the most favorite nation status, and NAFTA, originally
promoted by Bush 1. The maniacs however all blame W because they want
higher welfare checks and didn't think it might happen until the current
jackass took office. It WON'T happen (lowest income rate goes up 50% on
January 1, 2011) now either, but the mindless worship will continue.
The
key word is mindless.

Well, wait a sec. You're a maniac and you don't blame W.

By himself, no - there's been no one in the executive branch (except Cheney)
worth the office since Truman said "bomb the *******s." Congress has long
been an embarassment - it truly reflects the population.