Another oil rig explodes in the Gulf
 

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Sun, 5 Sep 2010 20:02:22 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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If there is ignition, there is a wave formed.

Absolutely incorrect.


I guess you never heard of pre-ignition, like in a car. The ignition of the
gas causes a shock wave, which is a ping.

Here's one I doubt you've heard of...

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20663374

How about shock waves from an earthquake? No explosion there.

Another oil rig explodes in the Gulf
 

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Sun, 5 Sep 2010 16:43:57 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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No mention of shock wave here... so are you making things up?

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/explosion

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Carefully read the second sentence:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosion

No shockwave, no explosion.

On the other hand I'm sure you got your money's worth with the free
dictionary.

How is that sailboat purchase coming along?


Just fine. We're edging closer to a decision.

Another oil rig explodes in the Gulf
 

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Sun, 5 Sep 2010 20:02:22 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

If there is ignition, there is a wave formed.

Absolutely incorrect.


Like you said before, she's reading from a Wiki. If you want to play her
game you need to quote a Wiki that contradicts her Wiki.

Another oil rig explodes in the Gulf
 

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Sun, 5 Sep 2010 20:02:22 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

If there is ignition, there is a wave formed.

Absolutely incorrect.


Good answer. No need to elaborate.

Another oil rig explodes in the Gulf
 

"Jim" wrote

Don't need no safety procedures.
Just ask them.

Jim - Speculate until proven wrong, then go into denial mode.

Men who work in the oilfield with that attitude make up the statistics of
injured/fatal workplace accidents. They ARE a tough crew, but even the
toughest stupidest man I met out there knows that he has a better shot at
going at it with the safety equipment than his own way. There are
situations where one's escape route is cut off, etc, and in those cases,
these men have no problem jumping 100' down to the water, even those with a
fear of heights. They can make that split second decision to fry or swim.
Believe me, any man who has been on a rig for more than a month has seen
what doing one's own thing can do versus following the book, and knows the
right path.

In every post accident analysis, there are always guys who did not do the
"right" thing, and sometimes they come out of it, and sometimes they don't.
And then sometimes there's nothing that can save you.

Steve

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wrote

I was in ordinance for 6 years I know what an explosion is.

I set a lot of shaped charges and PETN cord charges. Seen them go off and
what they can do. Seen perforating guns go off on deck.

It is difficult to explain to someone who has only seen it on television
from Hollywood what the difference is. Every Hollywood explosion has the
gratuitous fireball, even explosions that in real life would produce no
similar visuals.

Even the public demolitions use explosives, but they are wrapped and
contained and muffled so much. An equal discharge of the same amount of
explosives at the same site above ground and uncontained would shatter a lot
of glass and eardrums. Set off 10# of buried TNT. Boomph! Set off ten
pounds of TNT on a ten foot tower. BLAM!

But what we see on TV and movies makes us all experts.

Steve

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Escape capsules are mandatory.

Oilfield platform escape capsules are self contained. They seal. They have
an internal compressed air supply for the passengers. There is a compressed
air supply for the engine so that it can drive through burning oil. There
is a pump that sprays seawater over the top of the capsule. They have a
decent range to get out away from the fire.

just an added addendum....

Steve

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"Harry ¿" wrote in message
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Sun, 5 Sep 2010 20:02:22 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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If there is ignition, there is a wave formed.

Absolutely incorrect.


Like you said before, she's reading from a Wiki. If you want to play her
game you need to quote a Wiki that contradicts her Wiki.

Like I said before, you're not much of a man.

Another oil rig explodes in the Gulf
 

"Harry ¿" wrote in message
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Sun, 5 Sep 2010 20:02:22 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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If there is ignition, there is a wave formed.

Absolutely incorrect.


Good answer. No need to elaborate.

Moron response from a mini-man.

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"Jordon" wrote in message
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http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/09/02/rescue-efforts-underway-after-oil-rig-accident-in-gulf/?hpt=T2

Drill baby drill
Burn baby burn
Lie baby lie


This may actually be an example of the system working.
If the reports are right there were no fatalities and no oil was
spilled. That is better than the normal drive time experience in your
major city. Oil rig worker is a safer job than cab driver

There's a mile-long slick, according the news. An explosion is the
"system
working"???


Knee jerk reaction. No oil escaped. You are a moron.

In any case, the "system" didn't work. When the "system" works, there's no
fire, explosion, and people in the water.


Right, every job on the planet should be 100% safe. No risk of injury.
Never. I guess the unions will make teachers wear gloves to avoid paper
cuts?