I am re-wiring the trailer. I need to decide which trailer connector
(4-, 5-, 6- or 7-pole) to use. The trailer has a surge brake that is
a disc brake. The minimum requirements for the new wiring are to do
these:
Left turn signal
Right turn signal
Running lights (marker and clearance)
Brake signal
Disengage the disc brake when the car is in reverse

Optionally I would like to be able to do this:
Power an electric winch

Which trailer connector do I need to match the minimum requirement?
Which trailer connector do I need to also match the optional
requirement?

I am under the impression that as a minimum, I should use 5-pole flat
connector and use the 5-th wire to connect to the reverse circuit in
my car in order to disengage the disc brake when the car is in
reverse. But there is one thing that I don't understand: The 5-th
wire (the blue one) is supposed to be for brake. Does this mean that
I don't have any more brake light if I use the 5-th wire for reverse?
Is that 5-th wire for "electric" brake that is irrelevant to me and is
OK to use it for reverse?

If I really want to use the electric powered winch, I need to go for 6-
pole or 7-pole trailer connector, right?

Sorry if these questions are too basic. I am very surprised that I
cannot find any info about these when I "google" or "wiki". May be I
didn't use the correct key words.

By the way, my car is a 2008 Highlander that can handle up to 5000-
lbs. And my boat is 18-ft fiberglass center console weight around
2300-lbs. I am not sure if these info are relevant or not.

Thanks for any info in advance.

Jay Chan

On 8/11/10 4:45 PM, wrote:
I am re-wiring the trailer. I need to decide which trailer connector
(4-, 5-, 6- or 7-pole) to use. The trailer has a surge brake that is
a disc brake. The minimum requirements for the new wiring are to do
these:
Left turn signal
Right turn signal
Running lights (marker and clearance)
Brake signal
Disengage the disc brake when the car is in reverse

Optionally I would like to be able to do this:
Power an electric winch

Which trailer connector do I need to match the minimum requirement?
Which trailer connector do I need to also match the optional
requirement?

I am under the impression that as a minimum, I should use 5-pole flat
connector and use the 5-th wire to connect to the reverse circuit in
my car in order to disengage the disc brake when the car is in
reverse. But there is one thing that I don't understand: The 5-th
wire (the blue one) is supposed to be for brake. Does this mean that
I don't have any more brake light if I use the 5-th wire for reverse?
Is that 5-th wire for "electric" brake that is irrelevant to me and is
OK to use it for reverse?

If I really want to use the electric powered winch, I need to go for 6-
pole or 7-pole trailer connector, right?

Sorry if these questions are too basic. I am very surprised that I
cannot find any info about these when I "google" or "wiki". May be I
didn't use the correct key words.

By the way, my car is a 2008 Highlander that can handle up to 5000-
lbs. And my boat is 18-ft fiberglass center console weight around
2300-lbs. I am not sure if these info are relevant or not.

Thanks for any info in advance.

Jay Chan

I'll be glad to jump in here, especially since I've never had a boat
trailer with a power winch.

I've looked at several power winch/trailer setups at the local boat
ramp. When I had a 25' trailer boat, the possibility of an electric
winch intrigued me. It seems to be that the winch was hooked up to its
own plug at the back of the vehicle, and not to the trailer lights plug.
I don't see how the typical trailer lights plug could handle the amperage.

Be careful with that 5000-pound capacity. Is that 2300 pounds the total
for your boat sans engine, gas, batteries, gear? You probably have a
400-pound outboard. Gas is roughly 6.5 pounds a gallon. Batteries are 50
pounds each. And your trailer probably weighs at least 1,000 pounds.
You're damned close to the limit for your vehicles.

Harry (I post with a Mac, check the headers for ID spoofers who don't)
wrote:
On 8/11/10 4:45 PM, wrote:
I am re-wiring the trailer. I need to decide which trailer connector
(4-, 5-, 6- or 7-pole) to use. The trailer has a surge brake that is
a disc brake. The minimum requirements for the new wiring are to do
these:
Left turn signal
Right turn signal
Running lights (marker and clearance)
Brake signal
Disengage the disc brake when the car is in reverse

Optionally I would like to be able to do this:
Power an electric winch

Which trailer connector do I need to match the minimum requirement?
Which trailer connector do I need to also match the optional
requirement?

I am under the impression that as a minimum, I should use 5-pole flat
connector and use the 5-th wire to connect to the reverse circuit in
my car in order to disengage the disc brake when the car is in
reverse. But there is one thing that I don't understand: The 5-th
wire (the blue one) is supposed to be for brake. Does this mean that
I don't have any more brake light if I use the 5-th wire for reverse?
Is that 5-th wire for "electric" brake that is irrelevant to me and is
OK to use it for reverse?

If I really want to use the electric powered winch, I need to go for 6-
pole or 7-pole trailer connector, right?

Sorry if these questions are too basic. I am very surprised that I
cannot find any info about these when I "google" or "wiki". May be I
didn't use the correct key words.

By the way, my car is a 2008 Highlander that can handle up to 5000-
lbs. And my boat is 18-ft fiberglass center console weight around
2300-lbs. I am not sure if these info are relevant or not.

Thanks for any info in advance.

Jay Chan

I'll be glad to jump in here, especially since I've never had a boat
trailer with a power winch.

I've looked at several power winch/trailer setups at the local boat
ramp. When I had a 25' trailer boat, the possibility of an electric
winch intrigued me. It seems to be that the winch was hooked up to its
own plug at the back of the vehicle, and not to the trailer lights plug.
I don't see how the typical trailer lights plug could handle the amperage.

Be careful with that 5000-pound capacity. Is that 2300 pounds the total
for your boat sans engine, gas, batteries, gear? You probably have a
400-pound outboard. Gas is roughly 6.5 pounds a gallon. Batteries are 50
pounds each. And your trailer probably weighs at least 1,000 pounds.
You're damned close to the limit for your vehicles.


I meant to add that when I was trailering my 36' lobsta boat, I had a
pickup truck rated for an 8500-pound towing capacity. I was dammed close
to the limit on that truck.

But the truck came in damned handy when I discovered a burglar in my
garage. I was able to pin him to the wall with the truck until the
police arrived.

I remember when my father discovered a squatter in one of the boats
belonging to a customer in the marina he owned. He locked the cabin door
to the boat and left the guy in there for 4 days, if I remember
correctly. When he finally let the guy out, the guy took off faster than
Herring can tell a racist joke. My father never had a problem with that
squatter again.

I meant to add that when I was trailering my 36' lobsta boat, I had a
pickup truck rated for an 8500-pound towing capacity. I was dammed close
to the limit on that truck.


You can't be Harry...you're not posting with a mac. You're just a
****-for-brains ID spoofer.

Harry (I post with a Mac, check the headers for ID spoofers who don't)
wrote:


I meant to add that when I was trailering my 36' lobsta boat, I had a
pickup truck rated for an 8500-pound towing capacity. I was dammed close
to the limit on that truck.


You can't be Harry...you're not posting with a mac. You're just a
****-for-brains ID spoofer.

It's you who's not Harry...you're posting with mac. You're the schitt
for brains spoofer.

Harry (I post with a PC, check the headers for ID spoofers who don't) wrote:
Harry (I post with a Mac, check the headers for ID spoofers who don't)
wrote:


I meant to add that when I was trailering my 36' lobsta boat, I had a
pickup truck rated for an 8500-pound towing capacity. I was dammed close
to the limit on that truck.


You can't be Harry...you're not posting with a mac. You're just a
****-for-brains ID spoofer.

It's you who's not Harry...you're posting with mac. You're the schitt
for brains spoofer.

Like I said, you can't be Harry. Check the headers...I post with a mac.
You're just part of the right-wing conservatrash which infests this
newsgroup.

In article ,
says...

Harry (I post with a Mac, check the headers for ID spoofers who don't)
wrote:


I meant to add that when I was trailering my 36' lobsta boat, I had a
pickup truck rated for an 8500-pound towing capacity. I was dammed close
to the limit on that truck.


You can't be Harry...you're not posting with a mac. You're just a
****-for-brains ID spoofer.

It's you who's not Harry...you're posting with mac. You're the schitt
for brains spoofer.

Hey, dumfoch little schitt, I'm Harry, from Huntingtown, MD. If you
don't believe me, I can post my address and phone numbers for you.

--
The stupider you sound, the more Republican votes you'll get

In article ,
says...


I meant to add that when I was trailering my 36' lobsta boat, I had a
pickup truck rated for an 8500-pound towing capacity. I was dammed close
to the limit on that truck.


You can't be Harry...you're not posting with a mac. You're just a
****-for-brains ID spoofer.

Ha ha.. you are such an asshole nobody even cares! Can't tell which of
your posts are you and which are not so like most here, I just block the
ones that are not smart and or funny... But if this turns out to really
be you, I will plonk it too

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!

"I am Tosk" wrote in message
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In article ,
says...


I meant to add that when I was trailering my 36' lobsta boat, I had a
pickup truck rated for an 8500-pound towing capacity. I was dammed
close
to the limit on that truck.


You can't be Harry...you're not posting with a mac. You're just a
****-for-brains ID spoofer.

Ha ha.. you are such an asshole nobody even cares! Can't tell which of
your posts are you and which are not so like most here, I just block the
ones that are not smart and or funny... But if this turns out to really
be you, I will plonk it too

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!

Anyone with half a brain can
tell.............................................. ...

In article ,
says...

Harry (I post with a Mac, check the headers for ID spoofers who don't)
wrote:
On 8/11/10 4:45 PM, wrote:
I am re-wiring the trailer. I need to decide which trailer connector
(4-, 5-, 6- or 7-pole) to use. The trailer has a surge brake that is
a disc brake. The minimum requirements for the new wiring are to do
these:
Left turn signal
Right turn signal
Running lights (marker and clearance)
Brake signal
Disengage the disc brake when the car is in reverse

Optionally I would like to be able to do this:
Power an electric winch

Which trailer connector do I need to match the minimum requirement?
Which trailer connector do I need to also match the optional
requirement?

I am under the impression that as a minimum, I should use 5-pole flat
connector and use the 5-th wire to connect to the reverse circuit in
my car in order to disengage the disc brake when the car is in
reverse. But there is one thing that I don't understand: The 5-th
wire (the blue one) is supposed to be for brake. Does this mean that
I don't have any more brake light if I use the 5-th wire for reverse?
Is that 5-th wire for "electric" brake that is irrelevant to me and is
OK to use it for reverse?

If I really want to use the electric powered winch, I need to go for 6-
pole or 7-pole trailer connector, right?

Sorry if these questions are too basic. I am very surprised that I
cannot find any info about these when I "google" or "wiki". May be I
didn't use the correct key words.

By the way, my car is a 2008 Highlander that can handle up to 5000-
lbs. And my boat is 18-ft fiberglass center console weight around
2300-lbs. I am not sure if these info are relevant or not.

Thanks for any info in advance.

Jay Chan

I'll be glad to jump in here, especially since I've never had a boat
trailer with a power winch.

I've looked at several power winch/trailer setups at the local boat
ramp. When I had a 25' trailer boat, the possibility of an electric
winch intrigued me. It seems to be that the winch was hooked up to its
own plug at the back of the vehicle, and not to the trailer lights plug.
I don't see how the typical trailer lights plug could handle the amperage.

Be careful with that 5000-pound capacity. Is that 2300 pounds the total
for your boat sans engine, gas, batteries, gear? You probably have a
400-pound outboard. Gas is roughly 6.5 pounds a gallon. Batteries are 50
pounds each. And your trailer probably weighs at least 1,000 pounds.
You're damned close to the limit for your vehicles.


I meant to add that when I was trailering my 36' lobsta boat, I had a
pickup truck rated for an 8500-pound towing capacity. I was dammed close
to the limit on that truck.

But the truck came in damned handy when I discovered a burglar in my
garage. I was able to pin him to the wall with the truck until the
police arrived.

I remember when my father discovered a squatter in one of the boats
belonging to a customer in the marina he owned. He locked the cabin door
to the boat and left the guy in there for 4 days, if I remember
correctly. When he finally let the guy out, the guy took off faster than
Herring can tell a racist joke. My father never had a problem with that
squatter again.

Maybe he pinned him up against the wall with a 36 coupe just like you
did to that guy in your garage?

It's so funny. I rarely see any posts that I think are actually from
Harry, but the spoofers get through fine, either way, they are much
smarter than harry and much more interesting...

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!