On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 14:28:31 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 13:52:15 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

I am willing to go back to the Clinton era tax rates where you think
the world was perfect. There is no making you happy is there?

you mean when we had full employment and a balanced budget??

uh...yeah. i'll take those days vs bush's depression era economics.



So we can stop hearing you bitch about not having a raise for 37
years?.
It was great when Clinton and Carter were there.

let's see...incomes go UP under democrats for the middle class and
DOWN under the GOP

that's why the middle class hasnt had an increase you right wing MORON

How is that Obama raise working out for you?

since the GOP destroyed america, not so good

On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 15:35:48 -0700 (PDT), Jack
wrote:

On Aug 14, 3:00*pm, Jack wrote:
On Aug 14, 1:50*pm, bpuharic wrote:

On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 09:00:29 -0700 (PDT), Jack
wrote:
See table 4 athttp://www.taxfoundation.org/news/show/323.html

The top 20% pays 81% of the taxes, and the top 5% pays 60%. *Stop your
whining.

more rightwing bull****

Wrong.. non-partisan data. *Facts.

Here's more for you...http://www.taxfoundation.org/taxdata/show/24955.html
In fact, you should do some reading on that site. *You'll see how
you're being fed lies and half-truths.

More cricket? C'mon bob! Afraid you might stumble on the truth?

fine. you go show me where the middle class has had a 500% pay
increase in the last 37 years like the rich have

then we can talk tax policy

crickets? you're the sound of 1 hand masturbating

On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 23:21:40 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 20:48:48 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 14:28:31 -0400, wrote:


let's see...incomes go UP under democrats for the middle class and
DOWN under the GOP

that's why the middle class hasnt had an increase you right wing

You don't even read your own rants, or you don't believe them. The
rich got plenty rich in the 90s,

their income has gone up 500% in the last 37 years.

You were the one bitching about the
umbrella stand. That was Clinton's watch.

the middle class DID get raises during the clinton administrations.
the GOP administrations saw reversals in those increases

You also bitch that you were
not getting a raise then either. Humor me and admit it wasn't that
wonderful for the middle class then either unless you were playing the
market that you admit you are not smart enough to do ...

how's the middle class doing today?

under clinton unemployment was about 5%. today, after the right has
run rampant it's double that.

yes, the middle class made more money and had lower unemployment under
clinton than under bush.

no jobs were created under bush.

and, as i pointed out, while the middle class got 1.5% of their income
back in taxes, the wealthy got 3.8.

the tax cuts went to the rich.


How is that Obama raise working out for you?

since the GOP destroyed america, not so good

I thought we were getting hope and change.
You can hope but nothing is changing.

we have healthcare.

we have regulation of wall street.

neither of which right wingers did.

Notice the rich are STILL getting richer?

really? is that why the chamber of commerce almost put a contract out
on obama? why 75% of wall street lobbying money since january has gone
to the GOP?

On Aug 14, 10:59*pm, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 15:35:48 -0700 (PDT), Jack
wrote:





On Aug 14, 3:00*pm, Jack wrote:
On Aug 14, 1:50*pm, bpuharic wrote:

On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 09:00:29 -0700 (PDT), Jack
wrote:
See table 4 athttp://www.taxfoundation.org/news/show/323.html

The top 20% pays 81% of the taxes, and the top 5% pays 60%. *Stop your
whining.

more rightwing bull****

Wrong.. non-partisan data. *Facts.

Here's more for you...http://www.taxfoundation.org/taxdata/show/24955.html
In fact, you should do some reading on that site. *You'll see how
you're being fed lies and half-truths.

More cricket? *C'mon bob! *Afraid you might stumble on the truth?

fine. you go show me where the middle class has had a 500% pay
increase in the last 37 years like the rich have

then we can talk tax policy

Nope... we're not going to change the subject just because you realize
you're wrong. We're so close to a breakthough!

Say it with me... "The Bush tax cuts were for *everyone*, not just the
rich." Once you can accept that you were lied to, and have been
repeating the lies, then the healing can begin.

wrote:
On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 23:42:02 -0400, bpuharic wrote:


Notice the rich are STILL getting richer?
really? is that why the chamber of commerce almost put a contract out
on obama? why 75% of wall street lobbying money since january has gone
to the GOP?

That is because it was the GOP that wanted STRONGER regulation

Wall Street gives to GOP because Wall Street wants to be more strongly
regulated by the federal government of Obama, Reid and Pelosi.
Proving that you're just as nuts as Bob.
The thread title is "Logic." Where did it go wrong?

Jim - True colors always show.

On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 06:58:41 -0700 (PDT), Jack
wrote:

On Aug 14, 10:59*pm, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 15:35:48 -0700 (PDT), Jack
wrote:



Wrong.. non-partisan data. *Facts.

Here's more for you...http://www.taxfoundation.org/taxdata/show/24955.html
In fact, you should do some reading on that site. *You'll see how
you're being fed lies and half-truths.

More cricket? *C'mon bob! *Afraid you might stumble on the truth?

fine. you go show me where the middle class has had a 500% pay
increase in the last 37 years like the rich have

then we can talk tax policy

Nope... we're not going to change the subject just because you realize
you're wrong. We're so close to a breakthough!

uh no. you seem to think the middle class income is irrelevant to
policy. you seem to think the MASSIVE transfer of weatlh that's
happened over the last 37 years makes no difference

try again


Say it with me... "The Bush tax cuts were for *everyone*, not just the
rich." Once you can accept that you were lied to, and have been
repeating the lies, then the healing can begin.

they were for everyone

except they were for the rich more than for normal people

but, you ignore that. as always. you seem not to realize such policies
lead to the US bieng like mexico.

your lies have destroyed the US middle class

On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 12:14:44 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 23:42:02 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

O

the middle class DID get raises during the clinton administrations.
the GOP administrations saw reversals in those increases

So you have been lying about not getting a raise for 30 years.
Thanks

ROFLMAO!!!

to you, the fact that the tide comes in and goes out means we'll all
be under water soon!

HAHAHAHAH!!


You also bitch that you were
not getting a raise then either. Humor me and admit it wasn't that
wonderful for the middle class then either unless you were playing the
market that you admit you are not smart enough to do ...

how's the middle class doing today?

under clinton unemployment was about 5%. today, after the right has
run rampant it's double that.

How was that unemployment in 2000 when the tech bubble crashed?

not as high as it is under bush's depression. and the economy
recovered

this economy will not recover...the right and the wealthy have
destroyed the imddle class


yes, the middle class made more money and had lower unemployment under
clinton than under bush.

no jobs were created under bush.

Who was building all of those houses?

tell you what

you look up unemployment in 2001.

then look it up in 2008

let me know what you find, OK?


I thought we were getting hope and change.
You can hope but nothing is changing.

we have healthcare.


Very expensive health care.


HAHAHAHAHA!!!

we have the MOST EXPENSIVE HEALTHCARE IN THE WORLD!!!

boy you right wingers live in a plastic bubble dont you?


we have regulation of wall street.


Not really much regulation

proprietary trading? gone.

that's a big deal.

increased capital reserves? that's a big deal.

oh. you didn't know what was in the bill


really? is that why the chamber of commerce almost put a contract out
on obama? why 75% of wall street lobbying money since january has gone
to the GOP?

That is because it was the GOP that wanted STRONGER regulation

ROFLMAO!!!

is that what they told you?

boy you are gullible...you still believe in the easter bunny?

On 8/15/10 3:47 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 12:14:44 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 23:42:02 -0400, wrote:

O

the middle class DID get raises during the clinton administrations.
the GOP administrations saw reversals in those increases

So you have been lying about not getting a raise for 30 years.
Thanks

ROFLMAO!!!

to you, the fact that the tide comes in and goes out means we'll all
be under water soon!

HAHAHAHAH!!


You also bitch that you were
not getting a raise then either. Humor me and admit it wasn't that
wonderful for the middle class then either unless you were playing the
market that you admit you are not smart enough to do ...

how's the middle class doing today?

under clinton unemployment was about 5%. today, after the right has
run rampant it's double that.

How was that unemployment in 2000 when the tech bubble crashed?

not as high as it is under bush's depression. and the economy
recovered

this economy will not recover...the right and the wealthy have
destroyed the imddle class


yes, the middle class made more money and had lower unemployment under
clinton than under bush.

no jobs were created under bush.

Who was building all of those houses?

tell you what

you look up unemployment in 2001.

then look it up in 2008

let me know what you find, OK?


I thought we were getting hope and change.
You can hope but nothing is changing.

we have healthcare.


Very expensive health care.


HAHAHAHAHA!!!

we have the MOST EXPENSIVE HEALTHCARE IN THE WORLD!!!

boy you right wingers live in a plastic bubble dont you?


we have regulation of wall street.


Not really much regulation

proprietary trading? gone.

that's a big deal.

increased capital reserves? that's a big deal.

oh. you didn't know what was in the bill


really? is that why the chamber of commerce almost put a contract out
on obama? why 75% of wall street lobbying money since january has gone
to the GOP?

That is because it was the GOP that wanted STRONGER regulation

ROFLMAO!!!

is that what they told you?

boy you are gullible...you still believe in the easter bunny?


That's really funny. I'm wondering how many more times the stock market
will have to go into the dumpster before the majority of Americans see
it for what it is...an easily manipulated and fraudulent system for
transferring what little wealth middle Americans still hold to the rich.

--
I'm the real Harry, and I post from a Mac, as virtually everyone knows.
If a post is attributed to me, and it isn't from a Mac, it's from an ID
spoofer who hasn't the balls to post with his own ID.

On Aug 15, 3:43*pm, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 06:58:41 -0700 (PDT), Jack
wrote:





On Aug 14, 10:59*pm, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 15:35:48 -0700 (PDT), Jack
wrote:

Wrong.. non-partisan data. *Facts.

Here's more for you...http://www.taxfoundation.org/taxdata/show/24955.html
In fact, you should do some reading on that site. *You'll see how
you're being fed lies and half-truths.

More cricket? *C'mon bob! *Afraid you might stumble on the truth?

fine. you go show me where the middle class has had a 500% pay
increase in the last 37 years like the rich have

then we can talk tax policy

Nope... we're not going to change the subject just because you realize
you're wrong. *We're so close to a breakthough!

uh no. you seem to think the middle class income is irrelevant to
policy. you seem to think the MASSIVE transfer of weatlh that's
happened over the last 37 years makes no difference

try again



Say it with me... "The Bush tax cuts were for *everyone*, not just the
rich." *Once you can accept that you were lied to, and have been
repeating the lies, then the healing can begin.

they were for everyone

You are getting it!!

except they were for the rich more than for normal people

Then you fail. Did you not read, and absorb the real numbers that
show that the biggest cuts went to low income people, and the tax
burden has shifted to the top 20%??

but, you ignore that. as always. you seem not to realize such policies
lead to the US bieng like mexico.

your lies have destroyed the US middle class

And you were so close... oh well.

"Harry" wrote in message
m...
On 8/15/10 3:47 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 12:14:44 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 23:42:02 -0400, wrote:

O

the middle class DID get raises during the clinton administrations.
the GOP administrations saw reversals in those increases

So you have been lying about not getting a raise for 30 years.
Thanks

ROFLMAO!!!

to you, the fact that the tide comes in and goes out means we'll all
be under water soon!

HAHAHAHAH!!


You also bitch that you were
not getting a raise then either. Humor me and admit it wasn't that
wonderful for the middle class then either unless you were playing the
market that you admit you are not smart enough to do ...

how's the middle class doing today?

under clinton unemployment was about 5%. today, after the right has
run rampant it's double that.

How was that unemployment in 2000 when the tech bubble crashed?

not as high as it is under bush's depression. and the economy
recovered

this economy will not recover...the right and the wealthy have
destroyed the imddle class


yes, the middle class made more money and had lower unemployment under
clinton than under bush.

no jobs were created under bush.

Who was building all of those houses?

tell you what

you look up unemployment in 2001.

then look it up in 2008

let me know what you find, OK?


I thought we were getting hope and change.
You can hope but nothing is changing.

we have healthcare.


Very expensive health care.


HAHAHAHAHA!!!

we have the MOST EXPENSIVE HEALTHCARE IN THE WORLD!!!

boy you right wingers live in a plastic bubble dont you?


we have regulation of wall street.


Not really much regulation

proprietary trading? gone.

that's a big deal.

increased capital reserves? that's a big deal.

oh. you didn't know what was in the bill


really? is that why the chamber of commerce almost put a contract out
on obama? why 75% of wall street lobbying money since january has gone
to the GOP?

That is because it was the GOP that wanted STRONGER regulation

ROFLMAO!!!

is that what they told you?

boy you are gullible...you still believe in the easter bunny?


That's really funny. I'm wondering how many more times the stock market
will have to go into the dumpster before the majority of Americans see it
for what it is...an easily manipulated and fraudulent system for
transferring what little wealth middle Americans still hold to the rich.

--
I'm the real Harry, and I post from a Mac, as virtually everyone knows. If
a post is attributed to me, and it isn't from a Mac, it's from an ID
spoofer who hasn't the balls to post with his own ID.


Weren't you the one bragging about profits you realized in Garmin or some
such?