deficits don't matter
 

On 27-Aug-2010, bpuharic wrote:

let me give you EVIDENCE, OK? ever hear of that? data that shows
you're wrong?

http://www.americanprogress.org/issu.../b1579981.html

the govt of the rich, by the rich and for the rich has destroyed the
middle class...and the right wing, with their mythology bull**** has
aided and abetted this

it was reagan, and the bush's, with their free market fundies who did
this...

THOSE *******S! They put a gun to your head and forced you to buy
everything Asian.

"Americans" are irresponsibile, that won't change, and neither will the
income of the FORMER middle class. Welcome to Walmart World. You made it,
live with it.

deficits don't matter
 

On 28-Aug-2010, bpuharic wrote:

"a business community" has plenty of use for you until you are no longer
affordable

or until they decide they want 10 cents more for themselves and can
get it by starving the middle class

Businesses have to be able to sell their products. People like you that have
no problem buying foreign crap eliminated the marketplace. For the company
to survive they have no choice but to get the hell out of the U.S. and ship
into the U.S., or import. No company owes you anything except your salary
once the pay period is complete.





This is what I have explained for the past 25 years. Search for "chairman
of
Intel" and read links to recent news - he just gave the same speech. It's
about time, but too late for "Americans."

he gave a speech filled with right wing fairy tales and bull****. i
read his speech.

.........and you believe "the government or criminal organization should
"force" companies to lose money? You're an idiot.



There is no recession, what has occurred is an adjustment, over 25-30
years,
to a non producing nation.

yeah, courtesy of the rich. they discovered that, if they destroyed
the middle class the'd make a fortune in the short term

Every company has the interest of their customers being able to afford their
products. CONVERSELY, YOU decide to buy foreign crap and eliminate your job.
Now you're waiting for handouts. You are non productive and subversive.
It's the "American" way.



and that's what they did

deficits don't matter
 

On 27-Aug-2010, bpuharic wrote:

The only entity ENTITLED to take from you, and they take more than
anyone,
is governments of every level. What is sent overseas YOU do
voluntarily.

bull****. when i work for a living and my wages dont increase...that's
not the govt...it's the corporation i work for

If you had any value in the marketplace, you would be compensated.

right wing bull****.

prove it.

What couintry are you in?? Did you go to grade school? Are you on
"disability?"

deficits don't matter
 

On 30-Aug-2010, bpuharic wrote:

actually they did. number of choices I had?

zero

"Americans" are irresponsibile, that won't change, and neither will the
income of the FORMER middle class. Welcome to Walmart World. You made
it,
live with it.

notice how he blames it on the middle class. seems the middle class
held a gun to the heads of economic elites and forced them to send
jobs overseas

such is the hatred of the right wing for middle class america

Here's how it works:

1) The fat, happy and stupid elect slime that implements trade agreements
that dump foreign junk into the U.S. (in exchange for campaign donations),
while preventing exports to those countries (Japan is #1 culprit).

2) The prices of the dumped products are slightly lower than products
previously produced in the U.S.

3) The fat happy and stupid buy the slightly lower priced foreign products

4) More and more of the fat happy and stupid are unemployed and wonder why

5) The fat happy and stupid can refuse to buy foreign merchandise but are
too lazy to vote with their dollars

6) The fat happy and stupid elect more slime that promises them handouts

7) The handouts are paid for by the remaining producers

8) The remaining producers cannot competre with foreign junk

9) The remaining producers get out of the country to survive

10) The fat happy and stupid blame Bush

Hahhahahahahahahahahhaha

Yeah......it's somebody elses fault................

deficits don't matter
 

On 30-Aug-2010, bpuharic wrote:

Businesses have to be able to sell their products. People like you that
have
no problem buying foreign crap eliminated the marketplace

now let's see...the middle class hasnt had a pay increase in 37 years

but it's our fault that we buy our stuff overseas because it's the
only way we can make ends meet.

You won't get a raise if your services are no longer required - supply and
demand - too much labor available, no demand, your wages have actually,
appropriately DECREASED. Your services are not needed because the demand is
overseas - send more money there, demand increases overseas, your wages fall
- it's 4th grade basic economics.


notice how he, a good right winger, NEVER blames the rich?

You're referring to the scum you elect?


if the rich had paid decent wages to the middle class we'd be able to
afford more expensive US products

See above fact number 1.






This is what I have explained for the past 25 years. Search for
"chairman
of
Intel" and read links to recent news - he just gave the same speech.
It's
about time, but too late for "Americans."

he gave a speech filled with right wing fairy tales and bull****. i
read his speech.

So listen to the assholes in DC - if you have 2 brain cells, you see now
exactly where that has gotten you - your income will be falling much more
rapidly over the next 5 years.



........and you believe "the government or criminal organization should
"force" companies to lose money? You're an idiot.

and you believe the govt exists to bail out the rich

I believe the government should be reduced by 60% and bail out no one, no
companies, no assholes who bought houses they couldn't afford, and no 3rd
world ******** countries.





There is no recession, what has occurred is an adjustment, over 25-30
years,
to a non producing nation.

yeah, courtesy of the rich. they discovered that, if they destroyed
the middle class the'd make a fortune in the short term

Go find a job from a pan handler - "the rich" built factories that USED TO
employ people with negligible skills, like you. You eliminated those
employment possibilities, so you lose. Get over it. Don't send your ****ant
wages overseas and bitch about your declining income - you made it happen,
live with it.


Every company has the interest of their customers being able to afford
their
products.

bull****. they have their stockholders at heart. if they can wreck the
system, destroy regulation and force customers to use their services
(eg medical providers) then they'll do it. and the middle class has
little voice in teh matter

The "middle class" HAD ALL the voice in the matter, but f**ked up.

Companies have no obligation to ANYONE except the shareholders, and it is in
their best interest for the ignorant masses to buy their products. When
their marketplace goes away (as in automotive, steel, machine tools, capital
equipment) they still have to compete, there is no other reason to be in
business. The former middle class has disintegrated (unless you think
minimum wage at Walmart is middle class - hahahahaha) because they flocked
to auto dealers and consumer product marketers to send their bucks overseas.
You are nothing more than a sheep to the rulers, all they care about is
being voted for by you, and you "think" they can save you from your own
behavior.

"Americans" are stupid, because they're lazy. Let someone else "do
something." There is the lazy; lazy begets stupid.

Just for ****s and giggles, what are you doing to bring back the middle
class? Electing politicians that will "give" you more unemployment??? Or,
cruising in your Toyota loaded with red Chinese junk??

deficits don't matter
 

On 30-Aug-2010, bpuharic wrote:

What couintry are you in?? Did you go to grade school? Are you on
"disability?"

guess you never heard of the USA. the country where the middle class
has had no pay increase in 37 years

Irrelevant now, the middle class is history. Learn to live like the people
in Peru. They don't produce anything either.

deficits don't matter
 

"Colonel Kurtz" wrote in message
...

On 30-Aug-2010, bpuharic wrote:

What couintry are you in?? Did you go to grade school? Are you on
"disability?"

guess you never heard of the USA. the country where the middle class
has had no pay increase in 37 years

Irrelevant now, the middle class is history. Learn to live like the people
in Peru. They don't produce anything either.

More moronic noise from someone who doesn't have a stake in our great
country... you don't know much about the US do you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_middle_class

To the doubting Ms. Plume
 

Show us evidence that any part of this story is a lie, DePlume.


?


Shirley Sherrod... the Rest of the Story

Date: Saturday, August 7, 2010, 4:10 PM

Remember Andrew Breitbart, the media genius and his brilliant

handling of the ACORN 'hooker'. He skillfully manipulated so

that the corrupt media was forced, against its will, to broadcast

corruption in one of Obama's most powerful political support

groups.

But his handing of that affair is nothing compared to his

brilliant manipulation of the Shirley Sherrod 'white farmer'

scandal. It all began last Monday, July 22, 2010. As the

country watched in horror, Breitbart released a snippet of a

tape on his "Big Government" site which showed an obscure

black female official of the Dept. of Agriculture laughing to a

roomful of NAACP members about how she'd discriminated

against a destitute white farmer and refused to give him the

financial aid he desperately needed.

The black woman was Shirley Sherrod - and almost immediately

she became the center of a firestorm of controversy which

exploded throughout the country.


Within a day of the release of that infamous tape, the head of

the Dept. of Agriculture, spurred on by Obama, demanded -

and received - Sherrod's resignation.
Breitbart had won.


But then seemingly Breitbart's actions began to explode in his

face. As Sherrod screamed in protest, FOX News released the

entire text of her speech last March to the NAACP.

And there on tape Sherrod was shown supposedly repenting of

her racism against a white farmer and instead championing his

fight to win funds to keep his farm afloat.

Within hours of that entire tape being revealed, the entire world

turned against Andrew Breitbart. Conservatives throughout the

country were enraged that he'd endangered their reputations by

releasing a 'doctored' tape. Breitbart, they thundered, had dealt

a fatal blow to the conservative media. We all were horrified at

the clumsiness and stupidity of Breitbart in 'doctoring' a tape to

make a supposedly innocent woman look guilty. But now we

discover we have been as guilty of haste to judgment of Breitbart

as the Dept. of Agriculture was of Ms. Sherrod.

Only now can we realize the real purpose for Breitbart's release

of that tape snippet. It was to allow him to cunningly trick the

media into exposing one of the most shocking examples of

corruption in the federal government - a little known legal

case called "Pigford v. Glickman".

"In 1997, 400 African-American farmers sued the United States

Department of Agriculture, alleging that they had been unfairly

denied USDA loans due to racial discrimination during the

period 1983 to 1997."

The case was entitled "Pigford v. Glickman" and in 1999, the

black farmers won their case.

The government agreed to pay each of them as much as $50,000

to settle their claims. But then on February 23, 2010, something

shocking happened in relation to that original judgment: In

Total silence, the USDA agreed to release more funds to

"Pigford". The amount was a staggering...... $1.25 billion.
This was because the original number of plaintiffs - 400 black

farmers - had now.... swollen in a class action suit to include a

total of 86,000 black farmers throughout America . There was

only one teensy problem: The United States of America doesn't

have 86,000 black farmers. According to accurate and totally

verifiable Official USDA 2007 Census census data, the total

number of black farmers throughout America is only 39,697.
Hmmm... by the Official USDA 1992 Census data the US had

only 18,816 black farmers! Oops!

Well, gosh - how on earth did 39,697 explode into the fraudulent

86,000 claims? And how did $50,000 explode into $1.25 billion?

Well, folks, you'll just have to ask the woman who not only

spearheaded this case because of her position in 1997 at the

"Rural Development Leadership Network" but whose family

received the highest single payout (approximately $13 million)

from that action - Shirley Sherrod.

Oops again!

Yes, folks. It appears that Ms. Sherrod had just unwittingly

exposed herself as the perpetrator of one of the biggest fraud

claims in the United States - a fraud enabled solely because she

screamed racism at the government and cowed them into sub-

mission. And it gets even more interesting. Ms. Sherrod has also

exposed the person who aided and abetted her in this race fraud.

As it turns out, the original judgment of "Pigford v. Glickman"

in 1999 only applied to a total of about 16,000 black farmers.
But.... in 2008, a junior US Senator got a law passed to reopen

the case and allow more black farmers to sue for funds. The

Senator was Barack Obama.

Because this law was passed in dead silence and because the

woman responsible for spearheading it was an obscure USDA

official, American taxpayers did not realize that they had just

been forced in the midst of a worldwide depression to pay out

more than $1.25 billion to settle a race claim. But Breitbart

knew. And last Monday, July 22, 2010, he cleverly laid a trap

which Sherrod - and Obama + his cronies- stumbled headfirst

into which has now resulted in the entire world discovering the

existence of this corrupt financial judgment. for Ms. Sherrod?

Well, she's discovering too late that her cry of 'racism' to the

media which was intended to throw the spotlight on Breitbart

has instead thrown that spotlight on herself - and the huge

corruption. Sherrod has vanished from public view.




But the perpetrator of that law passed in dead silence leading to

unlawful claims & corruption... is still trying to fool all of US.
That's the rest of the story, but where is the media?
This is in response to the WSJ article published July 28, 2010:
"Our Divisive President", by Cadell & Schoen,
Two Democrats, on Obama dividing America on race.
Pass along this new information...

Google and read for yourself "Pigford vs. Glickman"
Pigford vs Glickman
http://pajamasmedia.com/zombie/2010/...rd-v-glickman-

86000-claims-from-39697-total-farmers/?singlepage=true



http://pajamasmedia.com/zombie/2010/...inglepage=true






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I'm the real Harry, and I post from a Mac, as virtually everyone knows.
If a post is attributed to me, and it isn't from a Mac, it's from an ID
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To the doubting Ms. Plume
 

"Harry ?" wrote in message
...
Show us evidence that any part of this story is a lie, DePlume.


Don't have to... feel free to prove it is true. Hint: postings by someone
named Zombie are not that credible.

To the doubting Ms. Plume
 

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...

"Harry ?" wrote in message
...
Show us evidence that any part of this story is a lie, DePlume.


Don't have to...

You had your chance.

Have another look. Maybe you'll change your mind.


Show us evidence that any part of this story is a lie, DePlume.


?


Shirley Sherrod... the Rest of the Story

Date: Saturday, August 7, 2010, 4:10 PM

Remember Andrew Breitbart, the media genius and his brilliant

handling of the ACORN 'hooker'. He skillfully manipulated so

that the corrupt media was forced, against its will, to broadcast

corruption in one of Obama's most powerful political support

groups.

But his handing of that affair is nothing compared to his

brilliant manipulation of the Shirley Sherrod 'white farmer'

scandal. It all began last Monday, July 22, 2010. As the

country watched in horror, Breitbart released a snippet of a

tape on his "Big Government" site which showed an obscure

black female official of the Dept. of Agriculture laughing to a

roomful of NAACP members about how she'd discriminated

against a destitute white farmer and refused to give him the

financial aid he desperately needed.

The black woman was Shirley Sherrod - and almost immediately

she became the center of a firestorm of controversy which

exploded throughout the country.


Within a day of the release of that infamous tape, the head of

the Dept. of Agriculture, spurred on by Obama, demanded -

and received - Sherrod's resignation.
Breitbart had won.


But then seemingly Breitbart's actions began to explode in his

face. As Sherrod screamed in protest, FOX News released the

entire text of her speech last March to the NAACP.

And there on tape Sherrod was shown supposedly repenting of

her racism against a white farmer and instead championing his

fight to win funds to keep his farm afloat.

Within hours of that entire tape being revealed, the entire world

turned against Andrew Breitbart. Conservatives throughout the

country were enraged that he'd endangered their reputations by

releasing a 'doctored' tape. Breitbart, they thundered, had dealt

a fatal blow to the conservative media. We all were horrified at

the clumsiness and stupidity of Breitbart in 'doctoring' a tape to

make a supposedly innocent woman look guilty. But now we

discover we have been as guilty of haste to judgment of Breitbart

as the Dept. of Agriculture was of Ms. Sherrod.

Only now can we realize the real purpose for Breitbart's release

of that tape snippet. It was to allow him to cunningly trick the

media into exposing one of the most shocking examples of

corruption in the federal government - a little known legal

case called "Pigford v. Glickman".

"In 1997, 400 African-American farmers sued the United States

Department of Agriculture, alleging that they had been unfairly

denied USDA loans due to racial discrimination during the

period 1983 to 1997."

The case was entitled "Pigford v. Glickman" and in 1999, the

black farmers won their case.

The government agreed to pay each of them as much as $50,000

to settle their claims. But then on February 23, 2010, something

shocking happened in relation to that original judgment: In

Total silence, the USDA agreed to release more funds to

"Pigford". The amount was a staggering...... $1.25 billion.
This was because the original number of plaintiffs - 400 black

farmers - had now.... swollen in a class action suit to include a

total of 86,000 black farmers throughout America . There was

only one teensy problem: The United States of America doesn't

have 86,000 black farmers. According to accurate and totally

verifiable Official USDA 2007 Census census data, the total

number of black farmers throughout America is only 39,697.
Hmmm... by the Official USDA 1992 Census data the US had

only 18,816 black farmers! Oops!

Well, gosh - how on earth did 39,697 explode into the fraudulent

86,000 claims? And how did $50,000 explode into $1.25 billion?

Well, folks, you'll just have to ask the woman who not only

spearheaded this case because of her position in 1997 at the

"Rural Development Leadership Network" but whose family

received the highest single payout (approximately $13 million)

from that action - Shirley Sherrod.

Oops again!

Yes, folks. It appears that Ms. Sherrod had just unwittingly

exposed herself as the perpetrator of one of the biggest fraud

claims in the United States - a fraud enabled solely because she

screamed racism at the government and cowed them into sub-

mission. And it gets even more interesting. Ms. Sherrod has also

exposed the person who aided and abetted her in this race fraud.

As it turns out, the original judgment of "Pigford v. Glickman"

in 1999 only applied to a total of about 16,000 black farmers.
But.... in 2008, a junior US Senator got a law passed to reopen

the case and allow more black farmers to sue for funds. The

Senator was Barack Obama.

Because this law was passed in dead silence and because the

woman responsible for spearheading it was an obscure USDA

official, American taxpayers did not realize that they had just

been forced in the midst of a worldwide depression to pay out

more than $1.25 billion to settle a race claim. But Breitbart

knew. And last Monday, July 22, 2010, he cleverly laid a trap

which Sherrod - and Obama + his cronies- stumbled headfirst

into which has now resulted in the entire world discovering the

existence of this corrupt financial judgment. for Ms. Sherrod?

Well, she's discovering too late that her cry of 'racism' to the

media which was intended to throw the spotlight on Breitbart

has instead thrown that spotlight on herself - and the huge

corruption. Sherrod has vanished from public view.




But the perpetrator of that law passed in dead silence leading to

unlawful claims & corruption... is still trying to fool all of US.
That's the rest of the story, but where is the media?
This is in response to the WSJ article published July 28, 2010:
"Our Divisive President", by Cadell & Schoen,
Two Democrats, on Obama dividing America on race.
Pass along this new information...

Google and read for yourself "Pigford vs. Glickman"
Pigford vs Glickman






--
I'm the real Harry, and I post from a Mac, as virtually everyone knows.
If a post is attributed to me, and it isn't from a Mac, it's from an ID
spoofer who hasn't the balls to post with his own ID.