deficits don't matter
 

On Sat, 11 Sep 2010 15:18:37 GMT, "Colonel Kurtz"
wrote:


On 10-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote:

"the current guys" have a bill passed that makes it appear to the
ignorant
masses they they will "get something." What you got (and won't for a long
time) is a promise. Your taxes are skyrocketing - what you've received
so
far is a pounding in the ass.

really? taxes are 'skyrocketing'??

care to tell us where?

Trillions of dollars ****ed down the drain on idiocy

let me repeat the question:

WHERE ARE TAXES SKYROCKETING??

oh. they arent. thanks. i already knew that


- who pays the bill,
the Tooth Fairy? (nothing personal, Barney Frank) You do, unless you're part
of the (50% of the population) welfare class.

the welfare class is wall street. they just got a trillion dollar
bailout courtesy of the right wing

deficits don't matter
 

Secular Humorist wrote:
On 9/10/10 8:59 PM, Larry wrote:
Secular Humorist wrote:
On 9/9/10 7:06 PM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

On 9/9/10 2:16 PM, Colonel Kurtz wrote:
On 9-Sep-2010, wrote:

Here's a suggestion.
Come up with some reasonable goals for America and post them here.

Turn it over to government control of everything (your light bulbs,
shower
heads, toilettes and on and on), freeloaders, Islamic maniacs and
Mexican
peasants. Oops! THAT was FAST!!

If you can't do that, then just roll up into a big ball and die.

The U.S. is YOUR problem, not mine. Survival of the fittest is
mandatory
and unavoidable. "Americans" are not fit (educationally, culturally,
ethically, economically) and cannot survive to the level of
standards of
only 30 years ago.

Aside from drooling your venom, what skills have you?

How is the basement dwelling business these days?



You'd have to ask someone who dwells in a basement, *****forbrains* .

How's your boat?
He did. Hit 20 hours yet, blowhard?



Ahh, but I don't dwell in a basement. We have...wi-fi.

What's with the 20 hours, dip****? Is that number as high as you can
count?


OK

deficits don't matter
 

Secular Humorist wrote:
On 9/11/10 11:22 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

On 9/10/10 8:59 PM, Larry wrote:
Secular Humorist wrote:
On 9/9/10 7:06 PM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

On 9/9/10 2:16 PM, Colonel Kurtz wrote:
On 9-Sep-2010, wrote:

Here's a suggestion.
Come up with some reasonable goals for America and post them
here.

Turn it over to government control of everything (your light
bulbs,
shower
heads, toilettes and on and on), freeloaders, Islamic maniacs and
Mexican
peasants. Oops! THAT was FAST!!

If you can't do that, then just roll up into a big ball and die.

The U.S. is YOUR problem, not mine. Survival of the fittest is
mandatory
and unavoidable. "Americans" are not fit (educationally,
culturally,
ethically, economically) and cannot survive to the level of
standards of
only 30 years ago.

Aside from drooling your venom, what skills have you?

How is the basement dwelling business these days?



You'd have to ask someone who dwells in a basement, *****forbrains* .

How's your boat?
He did. Hit 20 hours yet, blowhard?



Ahh, but I don't dwell in a basement. We have...wi-fi.

What's with the 20 hours, dip****? Is that number as high as you can
count?

Why don't you go out and take a picture of your hour meter Harry? Or,
you can search the net for one that has 5 or 6 hundred hours and post
that next to your picture of your owl.


I'm sorry...must have missed that photo of your boat...

One of the few disappointments I have with my outboard boat is that
the factory readouts are digital and I don't find them particularly
readable
under most lighting conditions. They look no better than an old
digital wris****ch, I think, and probably impossible to photograph.

But, at least I have a boat. You don't.

Six hundred hours? If I had that many hours on a 2008 outboard, I'd be
shopping for a new outboard boat.
Impossible to photograph or impossible to photoshop?

deficits don't matter
 

bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 11 Sep 2010 15:20:43 GMT, "Colonel Kurtz"
wrote:


On 10-Sep-2010, wrote:


How did one fool "give" pay increases........to anyone?? - c'mon - try
to
think......just because your boat is cheap plastic doesn't mean you're
completely incompetent. Well, maybe it does.

For someone who claims a lot of knowledge, you seem fairly clueless.

in every state of the union, save texas, he's legally brain dead

That would make it 56 states???

precisely


Amazing...

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"Colonel Kurtz" wrote in message
...

On 11-Sep-2010, Jim wrote:

"It was not the Chinese or the Japanese that killed Van Norman and many
others... it was GREEDY RICH KIDS. The descendents of these mighty
machine tool manufacturers sold the family business out... took the
money and ran 35 yrs ago.
They had no interest in the trade or art of machine tools. They had no
connection to the craftsmen and their families who built their fortunes.
When offered a bucketful of money for the company by an investment group
who knew nothing about running such a business, they whole heartedly
sold it out and lived happily ever after."


Both of you assholes can look in the mirror to find the "enemy."

Okay, I'm done name-calling.
Nissan opened a crankshaft plant in Tennessee some years ago.
http://www.autospectator.com/cars/ni...s-engine-plant
Jap forging press.

The Japs are probably doing more to create jobs "green jobs" here than
Obama is.
http://blog.greenjobspider.com/profi...jobs-coming-to

GM's Tonawanda engine plant shows what the "middle class" is
http://www.buffalonews.com/city/article35138.ece

"The automaker's plans for the sprawling plant on River Road also
provide a glimpse into the new GM work force, a far cry from the
assembly line workers who made $30 an hour.
New employees will make about half that much."

That's about 30 g's a year.
bpuharic should be looking at a wage cut, not an increase.
He's one of the "rich" and doesn't even know it.

Jim - Read about blind men and an elephant.

You only screwed up in a couple minor ways there.

Economically inferior countries in the 60's, 70's (Japan, Korea, China)
and
since were on track to industrialize - it was inevitable. In line with
that
progress, the rulers that many in this forum worship enacted trade
agreements that allow unrestricted dumping into the U.S. (many foreign
company facilities are foreign trade zones!!), while the foreign country
enacts policies that prevent importation. Japan is the most effective at
keeping U.S. (and other country's) products out - followed by Korea, then
China. China however has a different M.O.; a few products are allowed in,
counterfeits are developed and technology copied, adapted (or
counterfeited), including and U.S. patents are disregarded. Japan and
Korea
at least honor patents.

Concurrently, firms in the U.S. suddenly saw their MARKET being displaced
by
lower priced and typically somewhat inferior products. In order to
survive,
they had to 1) move overseas for lower their cost of production, or 2)
subcontract to overseas firms (often their competitors.) This is heavily
observed in the tool and die industry. 45% closure since 2000.

Yuppies may have moved their inherited investments overseas in a
nonsensical
effort for increased margins; but most moved off shore for survival.

I supplied the U.S. auto and sub supplier industries for 35 years,
machinery
and parts - that market is too small to support the firms that existed
even
20 years ago. Statistically, 37% of my industry remains in the U.S.

The market has gone away for U.S. suppliers - every major supplier has
moved
or formed JV's (often required such as in red China) . Toyota opened a
crankshaft plant in TN - bravo foxtrot delta. All fixed costs (half of
content) is Japanese, all capital machinery, most raw materials (MO is
frequently to have a Japanese company open a warehouse to store materials
from various foreign countries), management, engineering..............ever
see a blueprint (all digital now) in English???? That content is
substantial. Japanese (and Korean, German) brand autos are NOT "made" in
the U.S.

Free trade should be cross-trade, not dumping in the colony country.
People
that "think" their Toyota, Honda or whatever is "made" in Kentucky or Ohio
is simply ignorant, and rarely does anyone even attempt to help them think
clearly.

The U.S. is in the stage of attaining equilibrium with 2nd world
countries -
it is inevitable (and mostly already there) based upon the fed's
promiscuous
policies, and the ignorance of the purchasing public.

Good grief. You don't even know the definition of Yuppie.

deficits don't matter
 

On 11-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote:

Not at ALL! I told you, "Don't work, don't produce, squeal for trivial
handouts - it'll work!" That's how the Dip****s and congress have been
elected for 50 years. Pay better attention next time.

well let's see. in the US the rich have been getting richer, and the
middle class poorer more than in any other industrialized country.

your repsonse?

none. other than to say the darkie president is a sellout.

Apparently "the rich" (economic penis envy) did something better than you.
Nothing is constraining you except lack of drive and ambition - squealing
for handouts will get you nothing.

You shouldn't call the jackass in the White House a darkie, he's half
cracker.

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"Colonel Kurtz" wrote in message
...

On 11-Sep-2010, "nom=de=plume" wrote:

Trillions of dollars ****ed down the drain on idiocy - who pays the
bill,
the Tooth Fairy? (nothing personal, Barney Frank) You do, unless you're
part
of the (50% of the population) welfare class.

I bet you're so angry that you want to just stamp your feet!

You have no stake in this country, so why do you care?

I DO have a stake! You clowns send you diminishing wages out of the U.S!

I take it back. You're just illiterate.

deficits don't matter
 

On Mon, 13 Sep 2010 18:04:11 GMT, "Colonel Kurtz"
wrote:


On 11-Sep-2010, "nom=de=plume" wrote:

He doesn't have a stake in Canada, either. He's just another
canuck57...big mouth, no value.

I wonder if he got run out of the US... perhaps just ahead of the
authorities. He sure is angry with the US.

I respect the core structure of the U.S., I resent the attitude and habits
of the new welfare class short-handing themselves, then and expecting "the
government" to send them money. "The government" can only send you back
YOUR money, after they've skimmed 25% off the top. You shouldn't put up with
any of that.

well, no. they can make investments and get a positive ROI.

invested money is fungible. money doesn't know if it came from the
govt or private enterprise

deficits don't matter
 

On Mon, 13 Sep 2010 12:37:34 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


"Colonel Kurtz" wrote in message
...

On 11-Sep-2010, "nom=de=plume" wrote:

He doesn't have a stake in Canada, either. He's just another
canuck57...big mouth, no value.

I wonder if he got run out of the US... perhaps just ahead of the
authorities. He sure is angry with the US.

I respect the core structure of the U.S., I resent the attitude and habits
of the new welfare class short-handing themselves, then and expecting "the
government" to send them money. "The government" can only send you back
YOUR money, after they've skimmed 25% off the top. You shouldn't put up
with
any of that.

So, you're saying that infrastructure, the military, regulations in general
are skimming off the top? You have no respect for the core structure of the
US, unless you have your way of disenfranchising our citizens of basic human
rights.

exactly. he thinks an educated public has no value

deficits don't matter
 

On 13-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote:

perspective, you should invest, don't work, and pay 15%! Doesn't make
sense, does it? Nope - it's YOUR premise......

and why should investment tax dollars be taxed at a lower rate than
earned income? there's no reason for this policy, especially since
it's obviously ineffective, as we can see today.

and, no, investment does not come from 'after tax' dollars. capital
gains taxes are, by definition, paid AFTER investments are made and
profits are recouped.

Stupid is as stupid does

Investment comes from retained income, from which taxes were paid - you
don't get an income that you can invest and not pay taxes except narrowly
defined "retirement accounts" - if you withdraw from those (such as 401k's
and IRA's) you take it in the ass for taxes, PLUS penalties.

Investment income is taxed at a lower rate to encourage investment, which
used to result in brick-and-mortar companies to produce products where the
masses could be managers, engineers, technicians and factory rats. If it
weren't for capital investment, you'd be growing roots in your collective
garden to survive. Investment is now punished (unless you are merely
shuffling money on bogus pieces of paper and a buddy of "the
administration"), therefore you have a diminishing income. It is actually
that simple.