ah, yes, the latest on my company 401K
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 05:03:58 -0400, "Charles C."
wrote: "bpuharic" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 09:09:37 -0400, "Charles C." wrote: The paper value of those investments right now is about four to five times the initial investment, despite the meltdown of 2008. I suppose I could complain that without the meltdown the stock values would be much higher, but I don't regard that as loses. Loses would mean the value of the investments today are less than the original deposit into the account. what they represent is a loss of time. if you're 20 you have no problem. in the next 40 years you'll be OK if, however, you're a baby boomer, well that's a different story CC So, in other words, I should be screaming and bitching about the "loss" of money that I never earned or had. I see. Starting to understand how the left thinks. go ahead and try to get a loan using your 401K as collateral see what happens CC |
ah, yes, the latest on my company 401K
bpuharic wrote:
On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 19:37:27 -0400, wrote: Certain income funds are just as productive as money market funds. The NAV will vary - even drop for a while, but you are adding shares through reinvested dividends. IOW buy low sell high who cudda guessed. Evidently you didn't. |
ah, yes, the latest on my company 401K
bpuharic wrote:
On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 19:21:25 -0400, wrote: bpuharic wrote: On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 20:24:45 -0600, wrote: uh huh. if that's the case what happened to the 14 trillion wall street lost in equity over the last 3 years? You are obviously suffering financially yet you still think the Dems are on your side? yeah. when's the last time the GOP proposed a capital gains tax INCREASE? oh. never. QED Why do you have to worry about that? Are you at retirement age? |
ah, yes, the latest on my company 401K
John H wrote:
On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 23:10:30 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 19:46:34 -0400, "Harold" wrote: http://screen.yahoo.com/funds.html and here is where you're confused. 401K's are managed by fund managers...the funds they manage CAN do pretty well on an individual basis. yet, unless you're a full time manager yourself, you have NO idea which ones these are going to be. Move your $40 to a money market fund and STFU. You'd think all the Limo Liberals here would get up a collection for poor bpuharic notice how the right ignores the situation facing the middle class? the rich are doing fine...so that's all that matters Seriously, Bob, do you really think all the conservatives here, or anywhere, are rich? Do you not think a bunch of us might be middle class? Yet you are the one doing all the whining because you paid little attention to your investment. I asked if your 401K had a money market fund. By putting your money in same, you could have prevented the losses you took. Don't they all? If he has/had a company match - it would be free money, too! |
ah, yes, the latest on my company 401K
bpuharic wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 05:03:58 -0400, "Charles C." wrote: wrote in message ... On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 09:09:37 -0400, "Charles C." wrote: The paper value of those investments right now is about four to five times the initial investment, despite the meltdown of 2008. I suppose I could complain that without the meltdown the stock values would be much higher, but I don't regard that as loses. Loses would mean the value of the investments today are less than the original deposit into the account. what they represent is a loss of time. if you're 20 you have no problem. in the next 40 years you'll be OK if, however, you're a baby boomer, well that's a different story CC So, in other words, I should be screaming and bitching about the "loss" of money that I never earned or had. I see. Starting to understand how the left thinks. go ahead and try to get a loan using your 401K as collateral see what happens CC When would any lender accept a 401K account as collateral? |
ah, yes, the latest on my company 401K
On 18/07/2010 9:00 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 14:51:17 -0600, wrote: On 18/07/2010 12:16 PM, bpuharic wrote: On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 13:49:21 -0400, wrote: fine. when you become 100M middle class americans, you be sure and let me know, OK? again...the question: which 401K funds manager...magellan, shearson, chase, etc...is doing better today than in 2006? go ahead. take your time I guess you don't have the right mondset. Money is attracted to those who know how to manage it. if that's true why has the US economy collapsed. you mean to tell me there's NO ONE in the US who knows how to mamage money?? you sure are stupid Simple, US government and peoples hit the tipping point where they no longer attract money. There is only so much corruption, bailout and entitlement a system can stand before the tipping point is reached. -- Government has liberals, idealists and lawyers, but where is the common sense? |
ah, yes, the latest on my company 401K
On 18/07/2010 11:23 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 01:02:54 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 23:00:52 -0400, wrote: if that's true why has the US economy collapsed. you mean to tell me there's NO ONE in the US who knows how to mamage money?? There are lots of people who have made lots of money in the last 2 years by managing money. It is just not 401k and mutual fund managers. yah. they're called wall street hedge fund managers. they're doing fine. middle class america? still getting screwed I have done quite well with my middle class income and the markets, quite good actually as the democrats created a create buying oppotunity by trashing the US federal economics. For if they hadn't, I wouldn't have the average of 25%++ year over year return for the last three years on my US accounts. Just because you invest in dogs does not mean everyone did. -- Government has liberals, idealists and lawyers, but where is the common sense? |
ah, yes, the latest on my company 401K
On 20/07/2010 4:59 PM, Larry wrote:
bpuharic wrote: On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 19:37:27 -0400, wrote: Certain income funds are just as productive as money market funds. The NAV will vary - even drop for a while, but you are adding shares through reinvested dividends. IOW buy low sell high who cudda guessed. Evidently you didn't. Stupid too, one of my faves was buying Ford for under $2.25 and selling at over $6.75, I know, could have held out for $11 but never got burned taking profit. bpuharic probably just wet his pants when the market was giving hot deals. -- Government has liberals, idealists and lawyers, but where is the common sense? |
ah, yes, the latest on my company 401K
On 20/07/2010 3:07 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 06:47:48 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 23:08:45 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 07:39:08 -0400, wrote: ahem. let's see....the number of economists predicting this collapse was about 5. That may be right but "economists" are largely idiots from what I have seen. now THAT is true... Thee were plenty of hedge fund managers who saw this coming. Ever hear of the Goldman Sachs thing? I know for a fact Andy Hannigan at Centex Homes knew this was coming as early as 2q07. They were pulling back by then. and there as many HF managers who saw this coming as economists The earliest predictor I know of was Ron Paul, circa 2002 to 2004. I listened and I watched. Huge reason that by 2004 I was well in the swing of moving out of US equity and USDs. Going from 90% in US at 2002 to 12% in 2007. Saved me a lot of losses. -- Government has liberals, idealists and lawyers, but where is the common sense? |
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