"Canuck57" wrote in message
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On 17/07/2010 10:14 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 21:53:13 -0600,
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Yep, a real shortage of rational polticians, good that Arizona has one.

you can just see the right wing canuck when the cop asks him

'vhere are your PAPERZ!!! herr canuck....'

he's all for it

Got pulled over once in Florida, does that count? My papers were in
order.

Ah... so that's when you were deported and now can't get back into this
great country.

On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 19:01:43 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 17/07/2010 10:14 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 21:53:13 -0600,
wrote:



Yep, a real shortage of rational polticians, good that Arizona has one.

you can just see the right wing canuck when the cop asks him

'vhere are your PAPERZ!!! herr canuck....'

he's all for it

Got pulled over once in Florida, does that count? My papers were in order.

he doesnt know the difference between a license to operate a vehicle

and having your papers to prove you're an american

but he's a fascist canadian...very very stuipd

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On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 23:09:45 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

Got pulled over once in Florida, does that count? My papers were in
order.

he doesnt know the difference between a license to operate a vehicle

and having your papers to prove you're an american


Since the feds passed "Real ID" that is going to be the same thing.
The cop can use the unique ID number on the back of your license
(buried on the mag stripe and in that dot code) and find out
everything the government knows about you.
That is why an Arizona driver's license is "papers",

Arizona has no business determining immigration policy. It's a federal
issue.

On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 01:45:12 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 23:09:45 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

Got pulled over once in Florida, does that count? My papers were in order.

he doesnt know the difference between a license to operate a vehicle

and having your papers to prove you're an american


Since the feds passed "Real ID" that is going to be the same thing.
The cop can use the unique ID number on the back of your license
(buried on the mag stripe and in that dot code) and find out
everything the government knows about you.
That is why an Arizona driver's license is "papers",

go ahead and try to get a license in 1 state with a license from
another state. i did that with a texas license in PA 2 years ago.

good luck.

americans dont have to show **** to a cop beyond their license when
driving a car. and the right wing wants to change all that...

"VHERE ARE YOUR PAPERS HERR FREWELL"?

On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 00:14:41 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 21:53:13 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:



Yep, a real shortage of rational polticians, good that Arizona has one.

you can just see the right wing canuck when the cop asks him

'vhere are your PAPERZ!!! herr canuck....'

he's all for it

You've never been asked for ID or a license?
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John H

On 7/19/10 11:40 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 23:07:53 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


Arizona has no business determining immigration policy. It's a federal
issue.


The problem is the feds are not doping their job. As we have said
several times here, states are already enforcing immigration laws. It
is particularly true in Florida. I can't speak for others because I
don't live there. This US v AZ is just a political move to get votes
for the democrats in the mid term. The US is going to lose the case.

Perhaps we could pull most of our military forces out of europe and
japan, and swear 100,000 of them into the border patrol. That way, we
could get something useful out of the military. And to satisfy the
racist conservative republicans, we could restrict legal immigration to
those who can prove their aryan ancestry.

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On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 23:07:53 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


Arizona has no business determining immigration policy. It's a federal
issue.


The problem is the feds are not doping their job. As we have said
several times here, states are already enforcing immigration laws. It
is particularly true in Florida. I can't speak for others because I
don't live there. This US v AZ is just a political move to get votes
for the democrats in the mid term. The US is going to lose the case.

I believe MMS was doping just fine.

There's a difference between ENFORCEMENT and creating new laws. New laws are
the domain of the Fed in this case. There are lots of things that the Fed
screws up. That doesn't give states license to be creatively making new law.

I'm glad you're able to predict the future. Can you tell us who'll be
replacing Scalia?

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On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 06:36:28 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 01:45:12 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 23:09:45 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

Got pulled over once in Florida, does that count? My papers were in
order.

he doesnt know the difference between a license to operate a vehicle

and having your papers to prove you're an american


Since the feds passed "Real ID" that is going to be the same thing.
The cop can use the unique ID number on the back of your license
(buried on the mag stripe and in that dot code) and find out
everything the government knows about you.
That is why an Arizona driver's license is "papers",

go ahead and try to get a license in 1 state with a license from
another state. i did that with a texas license in PA 2 years ago.

good luck.

americans dont have to show **** to a cop beyond their license when
driving a car. and the right wing wants to change all that...

"VHERE ARE YOUR PAPERS HERR FREWELL"?


A Florida license (Real ID) is "papers" in Arizona. They will pull up
everything they need to determine my citizenship from the mag stripe
on the back of my license.
The real burden is on women with "real ID" since they will have to
produce every marriage license and divorce decree to get their license
(or get it renewed). You have to document every name change.
Fort me it was real easy. They just wanted to see my DD214 and that
allowed me to skip a lot of the paperwork.
The same was true of Social Security.

Yet, Florida didn't create a new law to do this. Thus, your argument is
without merit.

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On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 11:15:27 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 23:07:53 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


Arizona has no business determining immigration policy. It's a federal
issue.


The problem is the feds are not doping their job. As we have said
several times here, states are already enforcing immigration laws. It
is particularly true in Florida. I can't speak for others because I
don't live there. This US v AZ is just a political move to get votes
for the democrats in the mid term. The US is going to lose the case.

I believe MMS was doping just fine.

Huh?

Your post had a small typo.

There's a difference between ENFORCEMENT and creating new laws. New laws
are
the domain of the Fed in this case. There are lots of things that the Fed
screws up. That doesn't give states license to be creatively making new
law.

There are thousands of state laws that mirror federal law., Are you
saying a state can't have a law against kidnapping?

No. I'm saying that AZ created a new law that doesn't just mirror Fed law.

You can't even make a 14th amendment case since you do not have the
right to violate federal law.

They usurped Federal law. That's a no-no.

I'm glad you're able to predict the future. Can you tell us who'll be
replacing Scalia?

I have been pretty good at predicting the future so far. I did say
Goldman would come out of their case OK. They ended up copping to
admitting they might have had better disclosure and gave the
government part of what they made on the deal.

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On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 11:16:29 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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A Florida license (Real ID) is "papers" in Arizona. They will pull up
everything they need to determine my citizenship from the mag stripe
on the back of my license.
The real burden is on women with "real ID" since they will have to
produce every marriage license and divorce decree to get their license
(or get it renewed). You have to document every name change.
Fort me it was real easy. They just wanted to see my DD214 and that
allowed me to skip a lot of the paperwork.
The same was true of Social Security.

Yet, Florida didn't create a new law to do this. Thus, your argument is
without merit.


Florida enforces immigration policy without a new law. They just do
it. When a cop catches an illegal, they call INS.

Which is fine and normal. They didn't create a new one, claiming Federal
action is inadequate.