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On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 22:15:41 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 21:00:26 -0600, Canuck57
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With 650,000 no longer looking for work last month, there are 650,000
fewer taxpayers. Given this has been going on for two years, many
millions have dropped out of the taxpayer base.

There are actually a lot fewer taxpayers than that. Because of the gap
at the bottom when the "underemployed" will drop below the threshold
where they pay income tax. It was 43% in 2009, I bet that number will
be well over 50% in the 2010 tax year.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/...n4945874.shtml

I think that is why they want to let the Bush tax cuts expire. They
keep saying this only affects the super rich but it is also a rise of
rates across the board. Everyone's tax bill will go up.

Everyone's? Nope. You're not willing to pay for services.. fine. I am.
Just
don't dial 911 and don't use the roads, and to heck with libraries...
they're for poor people. Don't need to worry about fires and paramedics.



Everyone will pay, excerpt those below the threshold and that number
will be lower.
I am not worried about paying more, I think our rates are too low but
that is not the way this has been sold. People are being told the Bush
tax cuts only benefited the rich. That is a lie

Sorry, but you're just wrong. See previous comment.

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On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 23:49:32 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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Everyone will pay, excerpt those below the threshold and that number
will be lower.
I am not worried about paying more, I think our rates are too low but
that is not the way this has been sold. People are being told the Bush
tax cuts only benefited the rich. That is a lie

Sorry, but you're just wrong. See previous comment.


Are you talking about "the Bush tax cuts" or some "to be announced"
new plan? We don't have a clue what the new plan will be until it is
passed and signed but we do know what happens if they simply let the
current cuts expire.

It is like the people who are slapping each other on the back over the
Fin Ref without actually knowing what is in the bill. I am sure in a
year or two we will be hearing about bad things that were slipped into
this bill at the last minute, like Bob's rant about the Commodity
"reform" that allowed these problems in the first place.

Which no one is talking about doing. Nice try.

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On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 23:49:32 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Everyone will pay, excerpt those below the threshold and that number
will be lower.
I am not worried about paying more, I think our rates are too low but
that is not the way this has been sold. People are being told the Bush
tax cuts only benefited the rich. That is a lie

Sorry, but you're just wrong. See previous comment.


Are you talking about "the Bush tax cuts" or some "to be announced"
new plan? We don't have a clue what the new plan will be until it is
passed and signed but we do know what happens if they simply let the
current cuts expire.

It is like the people who are slapping each other on the back over the
Fin Ref without actually knowing what is in the bill. I am sure in a
year or two we will be hearing about bad things that were slipped into
this bill at the last minute, like Bob's rant about the Commodity
"reform" that allowed these problems in the first place.

Which no one is talking about doing. Nice try.



You don't know that, dippy da plum.

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Harold

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On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 22:10:17 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 23:49:32 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Everyone will pay, excerpt those below the threshold and that number
will be lower.
I am not worried about paying more, I think our rates are too low but
that is not the way this has been sold. People are being told the Bush
tax cuts only benefited the rich. That is a lie

Sorry, but you're just wrong. See previous comment.


Are you talking about "the Bush tax cuts" or some "to be announced"
new plan? We don't have a clue what the new plan will be until it is
passed and signed but we do know what happens if they simply let the
current cuts expire.

It is like the people who are slapping each other on the back over the
Fin Ref without actually knowing what is in the bill. I am sure in a
year or two we will be hearing about bad things that were slipped into
this bill at the last minute, like Bob's rant about the Commodity
"reform" that allowed these problems in the first place.

Which no one is talking about doing. Nice try.


You were talking about the Bush tax cuts and part of that is the 10%
bracket that will also go away if congress simply lets them expire.
Anything else is new legislation we have not seen.
I was just giving you examples of other unseen legislation that did
not actually do what it said it would.

Unseen? Even the somewhat financial reform legislation that passed is better
than what was there before.

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"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical
minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which
holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd
by the clean end."

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On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 22:15:41 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 21:00:26 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

With 650,000 no longer looking for work last month, there are 650,000
fewer taxpayers. Given this has been going on for two years, many
millions have dropped out of the taxpayer base.

There are actually a lot fewer taxpayers than that. Because of the gap
at the bottom when the "underemployed" will drop below the threshold
where they pay income tax. It was 43% in 2009, I bet that number will
be well over 50% in the 2010 tax year.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/...n4945874.shtml

I think that is why they want to let the Bush tax cuts expire. They
keep saying this only affects the super rich but it is also a rise of
rates across the board. Everyone's tax bill will go up.

Everyone's? Nope. You're not willing to pay for services.. fine. I am.
Just
don't dial 911 and don't use the roads, and to heck with libraries...
they're for poor people. Don't need to worry about fires and paramedics.



Everyone will pay, excerpt those below the threshold and that number
will be lower.
I am not worried about paying more, I think our rates are too low but
that is not the way this has been sold. People are being told the Bush
tax cuts only benefited the rich. That is a lie

You're conversing with a "social liberal who is also a fiscal conservative".
You haven't a chance at selling her a logical arguement. One or the other of
her bi polar positions won't buy it.

On 7/16/10 8:34 AM, Harold wrote:

"You're conversing with a "social liberal who is also a fiscal
conservative". You haven't a chance at selling her a logical arguement.
One or the other of her bi polar positions won't buy it."
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I'd be more concerned about the multiple personality disorder assholes
like you and "Larry", flajim...you know, the ones who either change
their handles here every couple of weeks, or spoof the handles of other
posters. Those are the seriously mentally ill assholes here.

How are flajim and jim doing today, dip****?

On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 08:34:02 -0400, "Harold"
wrote:

You're conversing with a "social liberal who is also a fiscal conservative".
You haven't a chance at selling her a logical arguement. One or the other of
her bi polar positions won't buy it.

IOw she believes that individuals should be free in their private
lives and in their economic lives

conservatives, OTOH, believe in socialism for the rich and a cop in
every bedroom

On 7/16/10 8:41 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 08:34:02 -0400, "Harold"
wrote:

You're conversing with a "social liberal who is also a fiscal conservative".
You haven't a chance at selling her a logical arguement. One or the other of
her bi polar positions won't buy it.

IOw she believes that individuals should be free in their private
lives and in their economic lives

conservatives, OTOH, believe in socialism for the rich and a cop in
every bedroom

*Some* of the righties here probably need a cop in their bedroom.

On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:14:42 -0400, wrote:


I think that is why they want to let the Bush tax cuts expire. They
keep saying this only affects the super rich but it is also a rise of
rates across the board. Everyone's tax bill will go up.

now let's see...the tax cuts would remain for people making less than
250K. and that would cause their taxes to go up

only the right wingers would be so delusional

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I think that is why they want to let the Bush tax cuts expire. They
keep saying this only affects the super rich but it is also a rise of
rates across the board. Everyone's tax bill will go up.

Obviously the Dems will put forward a bill to keep rates the same for
those making less than $250,000. That's an Obama promise.
Then watch the Reps try to block that.
Obama can't lose. Except with the Fox "news" channel viewers.
You're either joking or incredibly naive.

Jim - Sometime politician. Especially when the writing is on the wall.