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On 7/2/10 10:31 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 02/07/2010 5:51 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 06:24:11 -0400, Harry
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Keeping Up With the Jones Act

— By Kevin Drum, Mother Jones
| Fri Jul. 2, 2010 3:00 AM PDT

Have you heard of the Jones Act? Unless you read Newsmax and listen to a
lot of right-wing radio, probably not. It's an obscure statute that's
been on the books since 1920, and it requires all shipping between U.S.
ports or in U.S. coastal waters to be carried in U.S.-flag ships that
are owned and crewed by U.S. citizens.

So why are conservatives suddenly up in arms about it? Because, they
claim, it's a labor-inspired rule that's obstructing aid to a Gulf Coast


the right wing loves BP oil as shown by their recent apology. they
defend wall street and the banks as shown by their recent meeting with
top level hedge fund CEO's

they HATE the middle class as shown by their paranoid conspiracy
theories.

the GOP needs to be destroyed


Actually, did you see this months employment numbers... ya sure bet
Obama wants to brag about it going down to 9.5%...

But 658,000 people gave up looking for work....

7.9 million fewer people at work in private business since this began.

14.6 million people looking for work.

Last months prop up numbers of the 400,000 census workers are again
looking for work.

Monthly job cuts are up to 125,000 for the month was partially offset by
private job hires iof 33,000.

More than 525,000 new unemployed started to look for work last month to
replace the lost job.

How is Obamanonics really working far ya?


Great, and it is going to take a long time to recover from the Great
Bush Recession. Those of us with intellect knew that.
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On 7/2/10 10:31 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 02/07/2010 5:51 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 06:24:11 -0400, Harry
wrote:

Keeping Up With the Jones Act

- By Kevin Drum, Mother Jones
| Fri Jul. 2, 2010 3:00 AM PDT

Have you heard of the Jones Act? Unless you read Newsmax and listen to
a
lot of right-wing radio, probably not. It's an obscure statute that's
been on the books since 1920, and it requires all shipping between U.S.
ports or in U.S. coastal waters to be carried in U.S.-flag ships that
are owned and crewed by U.S. citizens.

So why are conservatives suddenly up in arms about it? Because, they
claim, it's a labor-inspired rule that's obstructing aid to a Gulf
Coast

the right wing loves BP oil as shown by their recent apology. they
defend wall street and the banks as shown by their recent meeting with
top level hedge fund CEO's

they HATE the middle class as shown by their paranoid conspiracy
theories.

the GOP needs to be destroyed


Actually, did you see this months employment numbers... ya sure bet
Obama wants to brag about it going down to 9.5%...

But 658,000 people gave up looking for work....

7.9 million fewer people at work in private business since this began.

14.6 million people looking for work.

Last months prop up numbers of the 400,000 census workers are again
looking for work.

Monthly job cuts are up to 125,000 for the month was partially offset by
private job hires iof 33,000.

More than 525,000 new unemployed started to look for work last month to
replace the lost job.

How is Obamanonics really working far ya?


Great, and it is going to take a long time to recover from the Great Bush
Recession. Those of us with intellect knew that.

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On 02/07/2010 8:35 AM, Harry  wrote:
On 7/2/10 10:31 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 02/07/2010 5:51 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 06:24:11 -0400, Harry
wrote:

Keeping Up With the Jones Act

— By Kevin Drum, Mother Jones
| Fri Jul. 2, 2010 3:00 AM PDT

Have you heard of the Jones Act? Unless you read Newsmax and listen
to a
lot of right-wing radio, probably not. It's an obscure statute that's
been on the books since 1920, and it requires all shipping between U.S.
ports or in U.S. coastal waters to be carried in U.S.-flag ships that
are owned and crewed by U.S. citizens.

So why are conservatives suddenly up in arms about it? Because, they
claim, it's a labor-inspired rule that's obstructing aid to a Gulf
Coast

the right wing loves BP oil as shown by their recent apology. they
defend wall street and the banks as shown by their recent meeting with
top level hedge fund CEO's

they HATE the middle class as shown by their paranoid conspiracy
theories.

the GOP needs to be destroyed


Actually, did you see this months employment numbers... ya sure bet
Obama wants to brag about it going down to 9.5%...

But 658,000 people gave up looking for work....

7.9 million fewer people at work in private business since this began.

14.6 million people looking for work.

Last months prop up numbers of the 400,000 census workers are again
looking for work.

Monthly job cuts are up to 125,000 for the month was partially offset by
private job hires iof 33,000.

More than 525,000 new unemployed started to look for work last month to
replace the lost job.

How is Obamanonics really working far ya?


Great, and it is going to take a long time to recover from the Great
Bush Recession. Those of us with intellect knew that.


You mean intellectually stupid like nails. Been 22 months since Obama
was elected, 18 months since he took office, $3 trillion in debt ago.

When does it become Obama's problem? 2369?

Time the man got with the plan and admit his econonmics of debt-spend
don't work. That this despression is about debtors not paying their
bills and that includes Obama/Democrat congress.

Debt whores are destroying the worlds economic system, and #1 debtor in
the world is now Obama. Spent more debt money than any other human that
ever lived.

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On 02/07/2010 8:35 AM, Harry ? wrote:
On 7/2/10 10:31 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 02/07/2010 5:51 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 06:24:11 -0400, Harry
wrote:

Keeping Up With the Jones Act

- By Kevin Drum, Mother Jones
| Fri Jul. 2, 2010 3:00 AM PDT

Have you heard of the Jones Act? Unless you read Newsmax and listen
to a
lot of right-wing radio, probably not. It's an obscure statute that's
been on the books since 1920, and it requires all shipping between
U.S.
ports or in U.S. coastal waters to be carried in U.S.-flag ships that
are owned and crewed by U.S. citizens.

So why are conservatives suddenly up in arms about it? Because, they
claim, it's a labor-inspired rule that's obstructing aid to a Gulf
Coast

the right wing loves BP oil as shown by their recent apology. they
defend wall street and the banks as shown by their recent meeting with
top level hedge fund CEO's

they HATE the middle class as shown by their paranoid conspiracy
theories.

the GOP needs to be destroyed

Actually, did you see this months employment numbers... ya sure bet
Obama wants to brag about it going down to 9.5%...

But 658,000 people gave up looking for work....

7.9 million fewer people at work in private business since this began.

14.6 million people looking for work.

Last months prop up numbers of the 400,000 census workers are again
looking for work.

Monthly job cuts are up to 125,000 for the month was partially offset by
private job hires iof 33,000.

More than 525,000 new unemployed started to look for work last month to
replace the lost job.

How is Obamanonics really working far ya?


Great, and it is going to take a long time to recover from the Great
Bush Recession. Those of us with intellect knew that.


You mean intellectually stupid like nails. Been 22 months since Obama was
elected, 18 months since he took office, $3 trillion in debt ago.

When does it become Obama's problem? 2369?

Time the man got with the plan and admit his econonmics of debt-spend
don't work. That this despression is about debtors not paying their bills
and that includes Obama/Democrat congress.

Debt whores are destroying the worlds economic system, and #1 debtor in
the world is now Obama. Spent more debt money than any other human that
ever lived.

--
We all work for government, they ceased working for us a long time ago.


Harry will be blaming Bush for everything till the day he dies.
Krause's resentment of Bush stems from the fact that Bush was intelligent
enough to be admitted to Yale while Harry had to settle for Kansas. Can you
imagine the humiliation he must have suffered?


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You mean intellectually stupid like nails. Been 22 months since Obama
was elected, 18 months since he took office, $3 trillion in debt ago.


amazing how much damage the right wing did to the US economy. it's
been 18 months and still we're in a depression. it's getting worse
because there's serious talk of major govt spending cuts...just like
the 1930's. we can see the effects of what canuck advocates.


When does it become Obama's problem? 2369?


it may never be possible to undo the damage the right wing did.


Time the man got with the plan and admit his econonmics of debt-spend
don't work.


actually it did. the economy was growing. now that the money is spent,
and YOUR view is becoming dominant, the economy is dying.

welcome to 1929 courtesy of the right wing

That this despression is about debtors not paying their
bills and that includes Obama/Democrat congress.

Debt whores are destroying the worlds economic system, and #1 debtor in
the world is now Obama. Spent more debt money than any other human that
ever lived.


we need to spend MORE to undo the right wing damage. otherwise we'll
never dig ourselves out of this hole the right put us in



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On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 11:01:02 -0600, Canuck57
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You mean intellectually stupid like nails. Been 22 months since Obama
was elected, 18 months since he took office, $3 trillion in debt ago.


amazing how much damage the right wing did to the US economy. it's
been 18 months and still we're in a depression. it's getting worse
because there's serious talk of major govt spending cuts...just like
the 1930's. we can see the effects of what canuck advocates.


When does it become Obama's problem? 2369?


it may never be possible to undo the damage the right wing did.


Time the man got with the plan and admit his econonmics of debt-spend
don't work.


actually it did. the economy was growing. now that the money is spent,
and YOUR view is becoming dominant, the economy is dying.

welcome to 1929 courtesy of the right wing

That this despression is about debtors not paying their
bills and that includes Obama/Democrat congress.

Debt whores are destroying the worlds economic system, and #1 debtor in
the world is now Obama. Spent more debt money than any other human that
ever lived.


we need to spend MORE to undo the right wing damage. otherwise we'll
never dig ourselves out of this hole the right put us in

Where is the money going to come from? The well is dry.


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"bpuharic" wrote in message
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actually it did. the economy was growing. now that the money is spent,
and YOUR view is becoming dominant, the economy is dying.

welcome to 1929 courtesy of the right wing

That this despression is about debtors not paying their
bills and that includes Obama/Democrat congress.

Debt whores are destroying the worlds economic system, and #1 debtor in
the world is now Obama. Spent more debt money than any other human that
ever lived.


we need to spend MORE to undo the right wing damage. otherwise we'll
never dig ourselves out of this hole the right put us in

Where is the money going to come from? The well is dry.


cut defense spending by 150B...as conservatives have even
recommended...

borrow even more and use it to pump up the economy.

force companies to distribute productivy increases to their workers
instead of paying dividends to give the middle class a pay increase to
SPEND

and implement tax cuts for the MIDDLE CLASS, not the rich, like the
GOP has been doing for 30 years


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On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 13:27:02 -0400, "Harold"
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"bpuharic" wrote in message
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actually it did. the economy was growing. now that the money is spent,
and YOUR view is becoming dominant, the economy is dying.

welcome to 1929 courtesy of the right wing

That this despression is about debtors not paying their
bills and that includes Obama/Democrat congress.

Debt whores are destroying the worlds economic system, and #1 debtor in
the world is now Obama. Spent more debt money than any other human that
ever lived.

we need to spend MORE to undo the right wing damage. otherwise we'll
never dig ourselves out of this hole the right put us in

Where is the money going to come from? The well is dry.


cut defense spending by 150B...as conservatives have even
recommended...

borrow even more and use it to pump up the economy.

force companies to distribute productivy increases to their workers
instead of paying dividends to give the middle class a pay increase to
SPEND




and implement tax cuts for the MIDDLE CLASS, not the rich, like the
GOP has been doing for 30 years


That's quite a pipe dream. You been smokin La Plumes ****.?


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"bpuharic" wrote in message
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and implement tax cuts for the MIDDLE CLASS, not the rich, like the
GOP has been doing for 30 years


That's quite a pipe dream. You been smokin La Plumes ****.?


notice how, as soon as you talk benefits for the middle class

the right wing goes all nut job?

only the rich are important in their worldview


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On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 13:27:02 -0400, "Harold"
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actually it did. the economy was growing. now that the money is spent,
and YOUR view is becoming dominant, the economy is dying.

welcome to 1929 courtesy of the right wing

That this despression is about debtors not paying their
bills and that includes Obama/Democrat congress.

Debt whores are destroying the worlds economic system, and #1 debtor in
the world is now Obama. Spent more debt money than any other human that
ever lived.

we need to spend MORE to undo the right wing damage. otherwise we'll
never dig ourselves out of this hole the right put us in

Where is the money going to come from? The well is dry.


cut defense spending by 150B...as conservatives have even
recommended...


That doesn't even pay the interes ton Obama's $3 trillion.

Try hacking $1.5 trillion (and rising). That is where you break even.

borrow even more and use it to pump up the economy.


Tried that, does not work. Reagan did better, in less taxes. His only
mistake was not shrinking government to fit.

force companies to distribute productivy increases to their workers
instead of paying dividends to give the middle class a pay increase to
SPEND


What increases? GM went bankrupt sucking over $177 billion in wealth
down the sewer. (not including GMAC)

and implement tax cuts for the MIDDLE CLASS, not the rich, like the
GOP has been doing for 30 years


Funny, finally got around to Reaganomics. Took about 10 months and the
recession ended.

But given the government debt/deficit, hacking away at government waste
with a chain saw is also needed.

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