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On 6/23/10 8:21 AM, jamesgangnc wrote:
On Jun 22, 9:29 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 20:09:42 -0400, Wayne.B

wrote:
Tragic:

http://www.newschannel9.com/news/cre...-capsized.html

Even more so...

"None of the people in the fishing boat were wearing life jackets at
time of accident."

Sad.

It's not likely that a life jacket would have saved someone run over
by a bunch of barges and a tug. That's the problem I have with those
statistics, the "pro life jacket" people always want to assume that
wearing a life jacket would have saved the victim. And that is not
always the case. We don't wear life jackets while recreational
boating. I only ask people to wear one if they are very young or
can't swim. Wearing a life jacket is a situation by situation call.

It's hard to imagine tht these three guys could have all missed seeing
this bearing down on them. I can understand how the tug operator
might have missed seeing them.


According to the news story, the tug was pushing nine barges. What size
barges, I don't know, but that far back, it is unlikely the barge
operator
could see anything in front of him, and, if he could see the small
boat,
it isn't likely he could have stopped in time or even changed the
direction of that train of barges significantly.

Perhaps operators of pusher barge trains should be required to post a
forward lookout on the bow of the most forward barge.


Good point... or maybe they should be restricted in how many barges they
can
push in a confined space.
We have a bit of a similar controversy up here on 'road trains'... that
is
18 wheelers pulling two trailers, rather than one.
Lots of safety concerns from the public.


How is a two trailer truck rig similar to a tug pushing barges, little
buddy?


Kevin.. keep quiet. The men are discussing an important safety concern.
If we get around to preventing broken arms in pre-teens, we'll advise you.

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On 6/24/10 11:07 AM, YukonBound wrote:


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"Harry" wrote in message
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On 6/23/10 8:21 AM, jamesgangnc wrote:
On Jun 22, 9:29 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 20:09:42 -0400, Wayne.B

wrote:
Tragic:

http://www.newschannel9.com/news/cre...-capsized.html

Even more so...

"None of the people in the fishing boat were wearing life jackets at
time of accident."

Sad.

It's not likely that a life jacket would have saved someone run over
by a bunch of barges and a tug. That's the problem I have with those
statistics, the "pro life jacket" people always want to assume that
wearing a life jacket would have saved the victim. And that is not
always the case. We don't wear life jackets while recreational
boating. I only ask people to wear one if they are very young or
can't swim. Wearing a life jacket is a situation by situation call.

It's hard to imagine tht these three guys could have all missed
seeing
this bearing down on them. I can understand how the tug operator
might have missed seeing them.


According to the news story, the tug was pushing nine barges. What
size
barges, I don't know, but that far back, it is unlikely the barge
operator
could see anything in front of him, and, if he could see the small
boat,
it isn't likely he could have stopped in time or even changed the
direction of that train of barges significantly.

Perhaps operators of pusher barge trains should be required to post a
forward lookout on the bow of the most forward barge.

Good point... or maybe they should be restricted in how many barges
they can
push in a confined space.
We have a bit of a similar controversy up here on 'road trains'...
that is
18 wheelers pulling two trailers, rather than one.
Lots of safety concerns from the public.


How is a two trailer truck rig similar to a tug pushing barges, little
buddy?


Kevin.. keep quiet. The men are discussing an important safety concern.
If we get around to preventing broken arms in pre-teens, we'll advise you.



Poor LoogyFlaJimLarry, et al...reduced to faking the IDs of others in
order to get a bit of attention.
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On 6/24/10 11:07 AM, YukonBound wrote:


"Harry" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

"Harry" wrote in message
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On 6/23/10 8:21 AM, jamesgangnc wrote:
On Jun 22, 9:29 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 20:09:42 -0400, Wayne.B

wrote:
Tragic:

http://www.newschannel9.com/news/cre...-capsized.html

Even more so...

"None of the people in the fishing boat were wearing life jackets at
time of accident."

Sad.

It's not likely that a life jacket would have saved someone run over
by a bunch of barges and a tug. That's the problem I have with those
statistics, the "pro life jacket" people always want to assume that
wearing a life jacket would have saved the victim. And that is not
always the case. We don't wear life jackets while recreational
boating. I only ask people to wear one if they are very young or
can't swim. Wearing a life jacket is a situation by situation call.

It's hard to imagine tht these three guys could have all missed
seeing
this bearing down on them. I can understand how the tug operator
might have missed seeing them.


According to the news story, the tug was pushing nine barges. What
size
barges, I don't know, but that far back, it is unlikely the barge
operator
could see anything in front of him, and, if he could see the small
boat,
it isn't likely he could have stopped in time or even changed the
direction of that train of barges significantly.

Perhaps operators of pusher barge trains should be required to post a
forward lookout on the bow of the most forward barge.

Good point... or maybe they should be restricted in how many barges
they can
push in a confined space.
We have a bit of a similar controversy up here on 'road trains'...
that is
18 wheelers pulling two trailers, rather than one.
Lots of safety concerns from the public.

How is a two trailer truck rig similar to a tug pushing barges, little
buddy?


Kevin.. keep quiet. The men are discussing an important safety concern.
If we get around to preventing broken arms in pre-teens, we'll advise you.



Poor LoogyFlaJimLarry, et al...reduced to faking the IDs of others in
order to get a bit of attention.


Spoofer alert! Everyone here knows that *I* am the one who needs
attention.
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"Harry" wrote in message
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On 6/23/10 8:21 AM, jamesgangnc wrote:
On Jun 22, 9:29 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 20:09:42 -0400, Wayne.B

wrote:
Tragic:

http://www.newschannel9.com/news/cre...-capsized.html

Even more so...

"None of the people in the fishing boat were wearing life jackets
at
time of accident."

Sad.

It's not likely that a life jacket would have saved someone run over
by a bunch of barges and a tug. That's the problem I have with those
statistics, the "pro life jacket" people always want to assume that
wearing a life jacket would have saved the victim. And that is not
always the case. We don't wear life jackets while recreational
boating. I only ask people to wear one if they are very young or
can't swim. Wearing a life jacket is a situation by situation call.

It's hard to imagine tht these three guys could have all missed
seeing
this bearing down on them. I can understand how the tug operator
might have missed seeing them.


According to the news story, the tug was pushing nine barges. What
size
barges, I don't know, but that far back, it is unlikely the barge
operator
could see anything in front of him, and, if he could see the small
boat,
it isn't likely he could have stopped in time or even changed the
direction of that train of barges significantly.

Perhaps operators of pusher barge trains should be required to post a
forward lookout on the bow of the most forward barge.

Good point... or maybe they should be restricted in how many barges
they can
push in a confined space.
We have a bit of a similar controversy up here on 'road trains'...
that is
18 wheelers pulling two trailers, rather than one.
Lots of safety concerns from the public.

How is a two trailer truck rig similar to a tug pushing barges, little
buddy?


Kevin.. keep quiet. The men are discussing an important safety concern.
If we get around to preventing broken arms in pre-teens, we'll advise
you.



Poor LoogyFlaJimLarry, et al...reduced to faking the IDs of others in
order to get a bit of attention.


Actually, Mrs. Harry Krause is an unused and available nik.


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In article ,
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"Harry" wrote in message
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On 6/23/10 8:21 AM, jamesgangnc wrote:
On Jun 22, 9:29 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 20:09:42 -0400, Wayne.B

wrote:
Tragic:

http://www.newschannel9.com/news/cre...-capsized.html

Even more so...

"None of the people in the fishing boat were wearing life jackets at
time of accident."

Sad.

It's not likely that a life jacket would have saved someone run over
by a bunch of barges and a tug. That's the problem I have with those
statistics, the "pro life jacket" people always want to assume that
wearing a life jacket would have saved the victim. And that is not
always the case. We don't wear life jackets while recreational
boating. I only ask people to wear one if they are very young or
can't swim. Wearing a life jacket is a situation by situation call.

It's hard to imagine tht these three guys could have all missed seeing
this bearing down on them. I can understand how the tug operator
might have missed seeing them.


According to the news story, the tug was pushing nine barges. What size
barges, I don't know, but that far back, it is unlikely the barge
operator
could see anything in front of him, and, if he could see the small
boat,
it isn't likely he could have stopped in time or even changed the
direction of that train of barges significantly.

Perhaps operators of pusher barge trains should be required to post a
forward lookout on the bow of the most forward barge.

Good point... or maybe they should be restricted in how many barges they
can
push in a confined space.
We have a bit of a similar controversy up here on 'road trains'... that
is
18 wheelers pulling two trailers, rather than one.
Lots of safety concerns from the public.


How is a two trailer truck rig similar to a tug pushing barges, little
buddy?


Kevin.. keep quiet. The men are discussing an important safety concern.
If we get around to preventing broken arms in pre-teens, we'll advise you.


First of all, WTF is Kevin? I'm Harry, the best at everything. I have
everything, I know everything. I'm refined and cultured. I would never
stoop so low as to call people silly names. With that said, why not
answer the question if you are so concerned about safety?


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"Harry" wrote in message
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In article ,
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"Harry" wrote in message
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In article ,
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"Harry" wrote in message
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On 6/23/10 8:21 AM, jamesgangnc wrote:
On Jun 22, 9:29 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 20:09:42 -0400, Wayne.B

wrote:
Tragic:

http://www.newschannel9.com/news/cre...-capsized.html

Even more so...

"None of the people in the fishing boat were wearing life jackets
at
time of accident."

Sad.

It's not likely that a life jacket would have saved someone run
over
by a bunch of barges and a tug. That's the problem I have with
those
statistics, the "pro life jacket" people always want to assume that
wearing a life jacket would have saved the victim. And that is not
always the case. We don't wear life jackets while recreational
boating. I only ask people to wear one if they are very young or
can't swim. Wearing a life jacket is a situation by situation
call.

It's hard to imagine tht these three guys could have all missed
seeing
this bearing down on them. I can understand how the tug operator
might have missed seeing them.


According to the news story, the tug was pushing nine barges. What
size
barges, I don't know, but that far back, it is unlikely the barge
operator
could see anything in front of him, and, if he could see the small
boat,
it isn't likely he could have stopped in time or even changed the
direction of that train of barges significantly.

Perhaps operators of pusher barge trains should be required to post
a
forward lookout on the bow of the most forward barge.

Good point... or maybe they should be restricted in how many barges
they
can
push in a confined space.
We have a bit of a similar controversy up here on 'road trains'...
that
is
18 wheelers pulling two trailers, rather than one.
Lots of safety concerns from the public.

How is a two trailer truck rig similar to a tug pushing barges, little
buddy?


Kevin.. keep quiet. The men are discussing an important safety concern.
If we get around to preventing broken arms in pre-teens, we'll advise
you.


First of all, WTF is Kevin? I'm Harry, the best at everything. I have
everything, I know everything. I'm refined and cultured. I would never
stoop so low as to call people silly names. With that said, why not
answer the question if you are so concerned about safety?


For the 27th time (man, you are slow off the start) Kevin Noble of
Snellville Ga (reputed to be 54 years old) is the short tempered, cocky
engineering technician who has such a poor reputation (something to do with
broken arms) that he feels the need to steal the ids of decent posters.
He also fancies himself as a bit of a badass...an adult version of the
Karate Kid.


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In article ,
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"Harry" wrote in message
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In article ,
says...

"Harry" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

"Harry" wrote in message
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On 6/23/10 8:21 AM, jamesgangnc wrote:
On Jun 22, 9:29 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 20:09:42 -0400, Wayne.B

wrote:
Tragic:

http://www.newschannel9.com/news/cre...-capsized.html

Even more so...

"None of the people in the fishing boat were wearing life jackets
at
time of accident."

Sad.

It's not likely that a life jacket would have saved someone run
over
by a bunch of barges and a tug. That's the problem I have with
those
statistics, the "pro life jacket" people always want to assume that
wearing a life jacket would have saved the victim. And that is not
always the case. We don't wear life jackets while recreational
boating. I only ask people to wear one if they are very young or
can't swim. Wearing a life jacket is a situation by situation
call.

It's hard to imagine tht these three guys could have all missed
seeing
this bearing down on them. I can understand how the tug operator
might have missed seeing them.


According to the news story, the tug was pushing nine barges. What
size
barges, I don't know, but that far back, it is unlikely the barge
operator
could see anything in front of him, and, if he could see the small
boat,
it isn't likely he could have stopped in time or even changed the
direction of that train of barges significantly.

Perhaps operators of pusher barge trains should be required to post
a
forward lookout on the bow of the most forward barge.

Good point... or maybe they should be restricted in how many barges
they
can
push in a confined space.
We have a bit of a similar controversy up here on 'road trains'...
that
is
18 wheelers pulling two trailers, rather than one.
Lots of safety concerns from the public.

How is a two trailer truck rig similar to a tug pushing barges, little
buddy?

Kevin.. keep quiet. The men are discussing an important safety concern.
If we get around to preventing broken arms in pre-teens, we'll advise
you.


First of all, WTF is Kevin? I'm Harry, the best at everything. I have
everything, I know everything. I'm refined and cultured. I would never
stoop so low as to call people silly names. With that said, why not
answer the question if you are so concerned about safety?


For the 27th time (man, you are slow off the start) Kevin Noble of
Snellville Ga (reputed to be 54 years old) is the short tempered, cocky
engineering technician who has such a poor reputation (something to do with
broken arms) that he feels the need to steal the ids of decent posters.
He also fancies himself as a bit of a badass...an adult version of the
Karate Kid.


Thanks for the information little buddy! I am curious, though, how you
know so much about this guy. Did he really break someone's arms???


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"Harry" wrote in message
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In article ,
says...

"Harry" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

"Harry" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

"Harry" wrote in message
m...
On 6/23/10 8:21 AM, jamesgangnc wrote:
On Jun 22, 9:29 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 20:09:42 -0400, Wayne.B

wrote:
Tragic:

http://www.newschannel9.com/news/cre...-capsized.html

Even more so...

"None of the people in the fishing boat were wearing life
jackets
at
time of accident."

Sad.

It's not likely that a life jacket would have saved someone run
over
by a bunch of barges and a tug. That's the problem I have with
those
statistics, the "pro life jacket" people always want to assume
that
wearing a life jacket would have saved the victim. And that is
not
always the case. We don't wear life jackets while recreational
boating. I only ask people to wear one if they are very young
or
can't swim. Wearing a life jacket is a situation by situation
call.

It's hard to imagine tht these three guys could have all missed
seeing
this bearing down on them. I can understand how the tug
operator
might have missed seeing them.


According to the news story, the tug was pushing nine barges.
What
size
barges, I don't know, but that far back, it is unlikely the barge
operator
could see anything in front of him, and, if he could see the
small
boat,
it isn't likely he could have stopped in time or even changed the
direction of that train of barges significantly.

Perhaps operators of pusher barge trains should be required to
post
a
forward lookout on the bow of the most forward barge.

Good point... or maybe they should be restricted in how many barges
they
can
push in a confined space.
We have a bit of a similar controversy up here on 'road trains'...
that
is
18 wheelers pulling two trailers, rather than one.
Lots of safety concerns from the public.

How is a two trailer truck rig similar to a tug pushing barges,
little
buddy?

Kevin.. keep quiet. The men are discussing an important safety
concern.
If we get around to preventing broken arms in pre-teens, we'll advise
you.

First of all, WTF is Kevin? I'm Harry, the best at everything. I have
everything, I know everything. I'm refined and cultured. I would never
stoop so low as to call people silly names. With that said, why not
answer the question if you are so concerned about safety?


For the 27th time (man, you are slow off the start) Kevin Noble of
Snellville Ga (reputed to be 54 years old) is the short tempered, cocky
engineering technician who has such a poor reputation (something to do
with
broken arms) that he feels the need to steal the ids of decent posters.
He also fancies himself as a bit of a badass...an adult version of the
Karate Kid.


Thanks for the information little buddy! I am curious, though, how you
know so much about this guy. Did he really break someone's arms???


Ask him!

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"Harry" wrote in message
...
In article ,
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"Harry" wrote in message
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In article ,
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"Harry" wrote in message
m...
On 6/23/10 8:21 AM, jamesgangnc wrote:
On Jun 22, 9:29 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 20:09:42 -0400, Wayne.B

wrote:
Tragic:

http://www.newschannel9.com/news/cre...-capsized.html

Even more so...

"None of the people in the fishing boat were wearing life
jackets
at
time of accident."

Sad.

It's not likely that a life jacket would have saved someone run
over
by a bunch of barges and a tug. That's the problem I have with
those
statistics, the "pro life jacket" people always want to assume
that
wearing a life jacket would have saved the victim. And that is
not
always the case. We don't wear life jackets while recreational
boating. I only ask people to wear one if they are very young
or
can't swim. Wearing a life jacket is a situation by situation
call.

It's hard to imagine tht these three guys could have all missed
seeing
this bearing down on them. I can understand how the tug
operator
might have missed seeing them.


According to the news story, the tug was pushing nine barges.
What
size
barges, I don't know, but that far back, it is unlikely the barge
operator
could see anything in front of him, and, if he could see the
small
boat,
it isn't likely he could have stopped in time or even changed the
direction of that train of barges significantly.

Perhaps operators of pusher barge trains should be required to
post
a
forward lookout on the bow of the most forward barge.

Good point... or maybe they should be restricted in how many barges
they
can
push in a confined space.
We have a bit of a similar controversy up here on 'road trains'...
that
is
18 wheelers pulling two trailers, rather than one.
Lots of safety concerns from the public.

How is a two trailer truck rig similar to a tug pushing barges,
little
buddy?

Kevin.. keep quiet. The men are discussing an important safety
concern.
If we get around to preventing broken arms in pre-teens, we'll advise
you.

First of all, WTF is Kevin? I'm Harry, the best at everything. I have
everything, I know everything. I'm refined and cultured. I would never
stoop so low as to call people silly names. With that said, why not
answer the question if you are so concerned about safety?

For the 27th time (man, you are slow off the start) Kevin Noble of
Snellville Ga (reputed to be 54 years old) is the short tempered, cocky
engineering technician who has such a poor reputation (something to do
with
broken arms) that he feels the need to steal the ids of decent posters.
He also fancies himself as a bit of a badass...an adult version of the
Karate Kid.


Thanks for the information little buddy! I am curious, though, how you
know so much about this guy. Did he really break someone's arms???


Ask him!


I don't know who you are talking about, little buddy!
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On 6/23/10 8:21 AM, jamesgangnc wrote:
On Jun 22, 9:29 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 20:09:42 -0400, Wayne.B

wrote:
Tragic:

http://www.newschannel9.com/news/cre...-capsized.html

Even more so...

"None of the people in the fishing boat were wearing life
jackets
at
time of accident."

Sad.

It's not likely that a life jacket would have saved someone run
over
by a bunch of barges and a tug. That's the problem I have with
those
statistics, the "pro life jacket" people always want to assume
that
wearing a life jacket would have saved the victim. And that is
not
always the case. We don't wear life jackets while recreational
boating. I only ask people to wear one if they are very young
or
can't swim. Wearing a life jacket is a situation by situation
call.

It's hard to imagine tht these three guys could have all missed
seeing
this bearing down on them. I can understand how the tug
operator
might have missed seeing them.


According to the news story, the tug was pushing nine barges.
What
size
barges, I don't know, but that far back, it is unlikely the barge
operator
could see anything in front of him, and, if he could see the
small
boat,
it isn't likely he could have stopped in time or even changed the
direction of that train of barges significantly.

Perhaps operators of pusher barge trains should be required to
post
a
forward lookout on the bow of the most forward barge.

Good point... or maybe they should be restricted in how many barges
they
can
push in a confined space.
We have a bit of a similar controversy up here on 'road trains'...
that
is
18 wheelers pulling two trailers, rather than one.
Lots of safety concerns from the public.

How is a two trailer truck rig similar to a tug pushing barges,
little
buddy?

Kevin.. keep quiet. The men are discussing an important safety
concern.
If we get around to preventing broken arms in pre-teens, we'll advise
you.

First of all, WTF is Kevin? I'm Harry, the best at everything. I have
everything, I know everything. I'm refined and cultured. I would never
stoop so low as to call people silly names. With that said, why not
answer the question if you are so concerned about safety?

For the 27th time (man, you are slow off the start) Kevin Noble of
Snellville Ga (reputed to be 54 years old) is the short tempered, cocky
engineering technician who has such a poor reputation (something to do
with
broken arms) that he feels the need to steal the ids of decent posters.
He also fancies himself as a bit of a badass...an adult version of the
Karate Kid.


Thanks for the information little buddy! I am curious, though, how you
know so much about this guy. Did he really break someone's arms???


Ask him!


I don't know who you are talking about, little buddy!



Sure you do, loogy-flajim-asshole-whatever. You know, loogy, the dumb
little cowardly twerp whose alleged daughter suffered two broken arms
under strange circumstances...the fellow who lied about the sheriff, a
lawyer, and a trip north. Just look in the mirror.


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