Generals going fishing
 

I hear being a general under Obama is a short term career job.

Guess he might as well polish up the fishing rods and go fishing.

--
The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

Generals going fishing
 

"Canuck57" wrote in message
...

I hear being a general under Obama is a short term career job.

Guess he might as well polish up the fishing rods and go fishing.

--
The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

If he's going to run his mouth, then yes, I'd say it's time to leave. I know
your head hurts by it, but the fact is that the general works for the
Commander-in-Chief.

Generals going fishing
 

On 22/06/2010 6:57 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

"Canuck57" wrote in message
...

I hear being a general under Obama is a short term career job.

Guess he might as well polish up the fishing rods and go fishing.

--
The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

If he's going to run his mouth, then yes, I'd say it's time to leave. I
know your head hurts by it, but the fact is that the general works for
the Commander-in-Chief.

Yep, there is only room for one big mouth in Obama's government.

Some 20 years ago I had a boss like Obama. Always shooting his mouth
off from day one. Clearly showing pretty quickly he didn't know much.
About 2-3 weeks in he called me, the senior person of the crew and told
me to "Do as I tell you, not as you think.". I just got up, on the way
out I said I would be gone in a month.

I picked up the phone and I transfered out in 14 days. On the second
week he tried to talk me into staying, saying who is going to keep this
going. I just said, not my problem any more.

He ws fired in 4 months. He tried the same BS on the only other one
that knew jack crap about how things really worked and he too said
enough was enough.

The plant closed 8 months later.

The moral, if you **** off someone below you, make sure you can afford
to loose them or have them as enemies.
--
The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

Generals going fishing
 

On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:04:45 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:


I hear being a general under Obama is a short term career job.

so was being a general under truman

and remember general shinseki, under bush?


Guess he might as well polish up the fishing rods and go fishing.

notice he never complains about the rich white frat boy who screwed
this whole thing up?

Generals going fishing
 

On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:30:37 -0700, JR North
wrote:

He would have done well to review McArthur's fall from grace with
Harry Truman before running his mouth off.
JR

If the quotes we are hearing are correct, he was way out of line,
almost unbelievably so for someone in his position. Perhaps in his
subconcious mind he really wanted out of the job. Things like that
happen.

Generals going fishing
 

wrote in message
...
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 22:40:57 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:30:37 -0700, JR North
wrote:

He would have done well to review McArthur's fall from grace with
Harry Truman before running his mouth off.
JR

If the quotes we are hearing are correct, he was way out of line,
almost unbelievably so for someone in his position. Perhaps in his
subconcious mind he really wanted out of the job. Things like that
happen.

He was stuck with a reporter for a month because of the Iceland no fly
thing and I imagine some of the things he said were not really
intended for publication. I agree, a military guy does not really have
the freedom to speak candidly about the CnC.


I think there should be more speaking up. MacArthur was opening the pie
hole even against the Joint Chiefs of Staff on how to run the war. If more
generals had spoken up in 1965 era when I was drafted, maybe we would have a
hell of a lot names on the wall, and we would have been victorious if at all
possible. This guy was saying that Obama came to meetings unprepared and
his aids were total doofuses. Not on how we should be dropping nukes, etc.
per MacArthur. When he retires, I would like him to speak up about the
rules of engagement, and how they are killing our soldiers.

Generals going fishing
 

On 22/06/2010 8:40 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:30:37 -0700, JR North
wrote:

He would have done well to review McArthur's fall from grace with
Harry Truman before running his mouth off.
JR

If the quotes we are hearing are correct, he was way out of line,
almost unbelievably so for someone in his position. Perhaps in his
subconcious mind he really wanted out of the job. Things like that
happen.

Or perhaps he has had it with Obama's BS and wants out.

--
The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

Generals going fishing
 

On Jun 22, 9:32*pm, bpuharic wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:04:45 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:



I hear being a general under Obama is a short term career job.

so was being a general under truman

and remember general shinseki, under bush?



Guess he might as well polish up the fishing rods and go fishing.

notice he never complains about the rich white frat boy who screwed
this whole thing up?

Polly want a cracker?

Generals going fishing
 

On 22/06/2010 9:05 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 22:40:57 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:30:37 -0700, JR North
wrote:

He would have done well to review McArthur's fall from grace with
Harry Truman before running his mouth off.
JR

If the quotes we are hearing are correct, he was way out of line,
almost unbelievably so for someone in his position. Perhaps in his
subconcious mind he really wanted out of the job. Things like that
happen.

He was stuck with a reporter for a month because of the Iceland no fly
thing and I imagine some of the things he said were not really
intended for publication. I agree, a military guy does not really have
the freedom to speak candidly about the CnC.

How did he get setup like that?

I know of no one that isn't dead that could go a whole month and not say
something they didn't want everyone to hear.

Maybe Obama did? Wants to run him off?
--
The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

Generals going fishing
 

On 22/06/2010 9:28 PM, Califbill wrote:


wrote in message
...
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 22:40:57 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:30:37 -0700, JR North
wrote:

He would have done well to review McArthur's fall from grace with
Harry Truman before running his mouth off.
JR

If the quotes we are hearing are correct, he was way out of line,
almost unbelievably so for someone in his position. Perhaps in his
subconcious mind he really wanted out of the job. Things like that
happen.

He was stuck with a reporter for a month because of the Iceland no fly
thing and I imagine some of the things he said were not really
intended for publication. I agree, a military guy does not really have
the freedom to speak candidly about the CnC.


I think there should be more speaking up. MacArthur was opening the pie
hole even against the Joint Chiefs of Staff on how to run the war. If
more generals had spoken up in 1965 era when I was drafted, maybe we
would have a hell of a lot names on the wall, and we would have been
victorious if at all possible. This guy was saying that Obama came to
meetings unprepared and his aids were total doofuses. Not on how we
should be dropping nukes, etc. per MacArthur. When he retires, I would
like him to speak up about the rules of engagement, and how they are
killing our soldiers.

And was Vietnam worth it?

I doubt it. Total waste of blood and resources and didn't change the
outcome. If the enemy can't be broken quicly, they must be annialated
as in dead. Otheerwise you are just a target for some sexually
frustrated jack ass wanting Jihad.

--
The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

Generals going fishing
 

"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
On 22/06/2010 6:57 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

"Canuck57" wrote in message
...

I hear being a general under Obama is a short term career job.

Guess he might as well polish up the fishing rods and go fishing.

--
The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

If he's going to run his mouth, then yes, I'd say it's time to leave. I
know your head hurts by it, but the fact is that the general works for
the Commander-in-Chief.

Yep, there is only room for one big mouth in Obama's government.

Some 20 years ago I had a boss like Obama. Always shooting his mouth off
from day one. Clearly showing pretty quickly he didn't know much. About
2-3 weeks in he called me, the senior person of the crew and told me to
"Do as I tell you, not as you think.". I just got up, on the way out I
said I would be gone in a month.

I picked up the phone and I transfered out in 14 days. On the second week
he tried to talk me into staying, saying who is going to keep this going.
I just said, not my problem any more.

He ws fired in 4 months. He tried the same BS on the only other one that
knew jack crap about how things really worked and he too said enough was
enough.

The plant closed 8 months later.

The moral, if you **** off someone below you, make sure you can afford to
loose them or have them as enemies.
--
The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

Moral of the story... you lost your job. I know you're bitter about it.

Generals going fishing
 

"Califbill" wrote in message
m...


wrote in message
...
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 22:40:57 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:30:37 -0700, JR North
wrote:

He would have done well to review McArthur's fall from grace with
Harry Truman before running his mouth off.
JR

If the quotes we are hearing are correct, he was way out of line,
almost unbelievably so for someone in his position. Perhaps in his
subconcious mind he really wanted out of the job. Things like that
happen.

He was stuck with a reporter for a month because of the Iceland no fly
thing and I imagine some of the things he said were not really
intended for publication. I agree, a military guy does not really have
the freedom to speak candidly about the CnC.


I think there should be more speaking up. MacArthur was opening the pie
hole even against the Joint Chiefs of Staff on how to run the war. If
more generals had spoken up in 1965 era when I was drafted, maybe we would
have a hell of a lot names on the wall, and we would have been victorious
if at all possible. This guy was saying that Obama came to meetings
unprepared and his aids were total doofuses. Not on how we should be
dropping nukes, etc. per MacArthur. When he retires, I would like him to
speak up about the rules of engagement, and how they are killing our
soldiers.

Clearly, you know nothing about how the military has functioned in this
country for the last 200+ years.

Generals going fishing
 

"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
On 22/06/2010 8:40 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:30:37 -0700, JR North
wrote:

He would have done well to review McArthur's fall from grace with
Harry Truman before running his mouth off.
JR

If the quotes we are hearing are correct, he was way out of line,
almost unbelievably so for someone in his position. Perhaps in his
subconcious mind he really wanted out of the job. Things like that
happen.

Or perhaps he has had it with Obama's BS and wants out.

--
The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

Or, perhaps you're just an idiot.

Generals going fishing
 

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:04:45 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:


I hear being a general under Obama is a short term career job.

so was being a general under truman

and remember general shinseki, under bush?


Guess he might as well polish up the fishing rods and go fishing.

notice he never complains about the rich white frat boy who screwed
this whole thing up?


Bush fired or "retired" many generals for speaking out. I think Obama should
not fire him unless he believes that McCrystall can no longer do the job he
was assigned to do.

Generals going fishing
 

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:04:45 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:


I hear being a general under Obama is a short term career job.

so was being a general under truman

and remember general shinseki, under bush?


Guess he might as well polish up the fishing rods and go fishing.

notice he never complains about the rich white frat boy who screwed
this whole thing up?


Bush fired or "retired" many generals for speaking out. I think Obama
should not fire him unless he believes that McCrystall can no longer do
the job he was assigned to do.


Obama's ego will cause McCrystal to be fired.

Generals going fishing
 

On 6/23/10 8:17 AM, Moose wrote:
wrote in message
...

wrote in message
...
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:04:45 -0600,
wrote:


I hear being a general under Obama is a short term career job.

so was being a general under truman

and remember general shinseki, under bush?


Guess he might as well polish up the fishing rods and go fishing.

notice he never complains about the rich white frat boy who screwed
this whole thing up?


Bush fired or "retired" many generals for speaking out. I think Obama
should not fire him unless he believes that McCrystall can no longer do
the job he was assigned to do.


Obama's ego will cause McCrystal to be fired.




Obama's ego fades in comparison to the general's ego.
i'll be disappointed with Obama if he does not fire the guy.
Almost every hour, more revelations come out about the general,
revelations that have nothing to do with his insubordination. How he
arose to his present position is something that needs investigation.

Generals going fishing
 

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...

"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
On 22/06/2010 8:40 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:30:37 -0700, JR North
wrote:

He would have done well to review McArthur's fall from grace with
Harry Truman before running his mouth off.
JR

If the quotes we are hearing are correct, he was way out of line,
almost unbelievably so for someone in his position. Perhaps in his
subconcious mind he really wanted out of the job. Things like that
happen.

Or perhaps he has had it with Obama's BS and wants out.

--
The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

Or, perhaps you're just an idiot.


I can't wait for McCrystal to have the freedom to speak his mind. I just
hope he doesn't suffer from a "fatal accident" before he gets to tell all.

Generals going fishing
 

On 6/23/10 8:41 AM, Harold wrote:
wrote in message
...

wrote in message
...
On 22/06/2010 8:40 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:30:37 -0700, JR North
wrote:

He would have done well to review McArthur's fall from grace with
Harry Truman before running his mouth off.
JR

If the quotes we are hearing are correct, he was way out of line,
almost unbelievably so for someone in his position. Perhaps in his
subconcious mind he really wanted out of the job. Things like that
happen.

Or perhaps he has had it with Obama's BS and wants out.

--
The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

Or, perhaps you're just an idiot.


I can't wait for McCrystal to have the freedom to speak his mind. I just
hope he doesn't suffer from a "fatal accident" before he gets to tell all.




Yeah, I'd love to hear more about his involvement in the Tillman
coverup, the prison torture issue, and his binge drinking incidents.

Generals going fishing
 

"Harry" wrote in message
m...
On 6/23/10 8:17 AM, Moose wrote:
wrote in message
...

wrote in message
...
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:04:45 -0600,
wrote:


I hear being a general under Obama is a short term career job.

so was being a general under truman

and remember general shinseki, under bush?


Guess he might as well polish up the fishing rods and go fishing.

notice he never complains about the rich white frat boy who screwed
this whole thing up?


Bush fired or "retired" many generals for speaking out. I think Obama
should not fire him unless he believes that McCrystall can no longer do
the job he was assigned to do.


Obama's ego will cause McCrystal to be fired.




Obama's ego fades in comparison to the general's ego.
i'll be disappointed with Obama if he does not fire the guy.
Almost every hour, more revelations come out about the general,
revelations that have nothing to do with his insubordination. How he arose
to his present position is something that needs investigation.

Insubordination? Did he disobey a direct order?

Generals going fishing
 

On 6/23/10 8:44 AM, Harold wrote:
wrote in message
m...
On 6/23/10 8:17 AM, Moose wrote:
wrote in message
...

wrote in message
...
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:04:45 -0600,
wrote:


I hear being a general under Obama is a short term career job.

so was being a general under truman

and remember general shinseki, under bush?


Guess he might as well polish up the fishing rods and go fishing.

notice he never complains about the rich white frat boy who screwed
this whole thing up?


Bush fired or "retired" many generals for speaking out. I think Obama
should not fire him unless he believes that McCrystall can no longer do
the job he was assigned to do.


Obama's ego will cause McCrystal to be fired.




Obama's ego fades in comparison to the general's ego.
i'll be disappointed with Obama if he does not fire the guy.
Almost every hour, more revelations come out about the general,
revelations that have nothing to do with his insubordination. How he arose
to his present position is something that needs investigation.

Insubordination? Did he disobey a direct order?




D'oh. Buy yourself a better dictionary. The definitions of
insubordination go beyond what you have offered here.

Generals going fishing
 

On 23/06/2010 12:13 AM, nom=de=plume wrote:

"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
On 22/06/2010 6:57 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

"Canuck57" wrote in message
...

I hear being a general under Obama is a short term career job.

Guess he might as well polish up the fishing rods and go fishing.

--
The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

If he's going to run his mouth, then yes, I'd say it's time to leave. I
know your head hurts by it, but the fact is that the general works for
the Commander-in-Chief.

Yep, there is only room for one big mouth in Obama's government.

Some 20 years ago I had a boss like Obama. Always shooting his mouth
off from day one. Clearly showing pretty quickly he didn't know much.
About 2-3 weeks in he called me, the senior person of the crew and
told me to "Do as I tell you, not as you think.". I just got up, on
the way out I said I would be gone in a month.

I picked up the phone and I transfered out in 14 days. On the second
week he tried to talk me into staying, saying who is going to keep
this going. I just said, not my problem any more.

He ws fired in 4 months. He tried the same BS on the only other one
that knew jack crap about how things really worked and he too said
enough was enough.

The plant closed 8 months later.

The moral, if you **** off someone below you, make sure you can afford
to loose them or have them as enemies.
--
The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

Moral of the story... you lost your job. I know you're bitter about it.


Funny, I knew it was coming and cashed out. Then got another job. You,
still unemployed to a point you are unemployable.

How long does unemployment last?

--
The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

Generals going fishing
 

On 23/06/2010 2:33 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 20:28:37 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:





I think there should be more speaking up. MacArthur was opening the pie
hole even against the Joint Chiefs of Staff on how to run the war. If more
generals had spoken up in 1965 era when I was drafted, maybe we would have a
hell of a lot names on the wall, and we would have been victorious if at all
possible. This guy was saying that Obama came to meetings unprepared and
his aids were total doofuses. Not on how we should be dropping nukes, etc.
per MacArthur. When he retires, I would like him to speak up about the
rules of engagement, and how they are killing our soldiers.

what he failed to note was that obama, unlike bush, LISTENED to the
general, and gave him every single thing he asked for. mcchrystal
determined our policy in afghanistan. he determined the method of
COIN. the troop levels, the resources

it's his plan. NOW he bitches he's not being listened to.

it's bizarre

Not at all. Obama hasn't figured out the enemy is like school yard
bullies. You need to bloody their noses once and awhile to keep them
smarter. Obama has taken the do no harm stand as he loves muslims.
Well, it is getting them killed. Guess the generals are getting sick of
DC head up their arse decisions.

--
The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

Generals going fishing
 

On 23/06/2010 6:41 AM, Harold wrote:
wrote in message
...

wrote in message
...
On 22/06/2010 8:40 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:30:37 -0700, JR North
wrote:

He would have done well to review McArthur's fall from grace with
Harry Truman before running his mouth off.
JR

If the quotes we are hearing are correct, he was way out of line,
almost unbelievably so for someone in his position. Perhaps in his
subconcious mind he really wanted out of the job. Things like that
happen.

Or perhaps he has had it with Obama's BS and wants out.

--
The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

Or, perhaps you're just an idiot.


I can't wait for McCrystal to have the freedom to speak his mind. I just
hope he doesn't suffer from a "fatal accident" before he gets to tell all.

One never knows.

--
The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

Generals going fishing
 

On 6/23/10 9:12 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 23/06/2010 12:13 AM, nom=de=plume wrote:

"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
On 22/06/2010 6:57 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

"Canuck57" wrote in message
...

I hear being a general under Obama is a short term career job.

Guess he might as well polish up the fishing rods and go fishing.

--
The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common
sense.

If he's going to run his mouth, then yes, I'd say it's time to leave. I
know your head hurts by it, but the fact is that the general works for
the Commander-in-Chief.

Yep, there is only room for one big mouth in Obama's government.

Some 20 years ago I had a boss like Obama. Always shooting his mouth
off from day one. Clearly showing pretty quickly he didn't know much.
About 2-3 weeks in he called me, the senior person of the crew and
told me to "Do as I tell you, not as you think.". I just got up, on
the way out I said I would be gone in a month.

I picked up the phone and I transfered out in 14 days. On the second
week he tried to talk me into staying, saying who is going to keep
this going. I just said, not my problem any more.

He ws fired in 4 months. He tried the same BS on the only other one
that knew jack crap about how things really worked and he too said
enough was enough.

The plant closed 8 months later.

The moral, if you **** off someone below you, make sure you can afford
to loose them or have them as enemies.
--
The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

Moral of the story... you lost your job. I know you're bitter about it.


Funny, I knew it was coming and cashed out. Then got another job. You,
still unemployed to a point you are unemployable.

How long does unemployment last?



I know this will come as a shock to a low-level and soon to be laid off
wage-earner like you, Canucki, but self-employed people are not
"unemployed."

Perhaps your buds on the right here believe the economical and political
crap you spew, but those of us who are conscious and sentient
get a whiff of your bull**** everytime you hit the "SEND" button.

The other day you claimed you were interested in buying a McDonald's
franchise.

Bull****.

You couldn't pay for a simple $5 lunch for a half dozen posters here.

Generals going fishing
 

In article ,
says...

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:04:45 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:


I hear being a general under Obama is a short term career job.

so was being a general under truman

and remember general shinseki, under bush?


Guess he might as well polish up the fishing rods and go fishing.

notice he never complains about the rich white frat boy who screwed
this whole thing up?


Bush fired or "retired" many generals for speaking out. I think Obama
should not fire him unless he believes that McCrystall can no longer do
the job he was assigned to do.


Obama's ego will cause McCrystal to be fired.

He is a thin skinned little man, isn't he?

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!

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On 6/23/10 10:34 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

wrote in message
...

wrote in message
...
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:04:45 -0600,
wrote:


I hear being a general under Obama is a short term career job.

so was being a general under truman

and remember general shinseki, under bush?


Guess he might as well polish up the fishing rods and go fishing.

notice he never complains about the rich white frat boy who screwed
this whole thing up?


Bush fired or "retired" many generals for speaking out. I think Obama
should not fire him unless he believes that McCrystall can no longer do
the job he was assigned to do.


Obama's ego will cause McCrystal to be fired.

He is a thin skinned little man, isn't he?


We're not talking about you here.

Generals going fishing
 

In article ,
says...

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:04:45 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:


I hear being a general under Obama is a short term career job.

so was being a general under truman

and remember general shinseki, under bush?


Guess he might as well polish up the fishing rods and go fishing.

notice he never complains about the rich white frat boy who screwed
this whole thing up?


Bush fired or "retired" many generals for speaking out. I think Obama
should not fire him unless he believes that McCrystall can no longer do
the job he was assigned to do.


Obama's ego will cause McCrystal to be fired.

I'm going to talk to Obama today and get this mess straightened out.

Generals going fishing
 

On 6/23/10 1:06 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 04:34:21 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 22:12:57 -0600,
wrote:

On 22/06/2010 8:40 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:30:37 -0700, JR North
wrote:

He would have done well to review McArthur's fall from grace with
Harry Truman before running his mouth off.
JR

If the quotes we are hearing are correct, he was way out of line,
almost unbelievably so for someone in his position. Perhaps in his
subconcious mind he really wanted out of the job. Things like that
happen.

Or perhaps he has had it with Obama's BS and wants out.

mcchrystal determined the plan we're using in afghanistan. if there's
BS, it's mcchrystal's

McChrystal is upset that Obama might actually follow the time table
and get us out of Afghanistan next year. Military people make war for
a living and they promote their craft. That is why we have civilian
oversight. In the end it is really McCrystal's decision to leave the
Army or not but he can have his options in the Army severely limited


What most career military personnel want most is to stay in uniform, no
matter what.

Generals going fishing
 

wrote in message
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On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 13:09:32 -0400, Harry
wrote:

McChrystal is upset that Obama might actually follow the time table
and get us out of Afghanistan next year. Military people make war for
a living and they promote their craft. That is why we have civilian
oversight. In the end it is really McCrystal's decision to leave the
Army or not but he can have his options in the Army severely limited


What most career military personnel want most is to stay in uniform, no
matter what.

I doubt McCrystal will be willing to fly a desk in Fumbuck Arkansas.
If Obama relieves him, he will be spending more time with his family
and writing his memoirs. He might even get a show on Fox like Ollie.

Obie just fired him. His humongus ego wouldn't let him do otherwise.

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On 23/06/2010 12:13 AM, nom=de=plume wrote:

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On 22/06/2010 6:57 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

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I hear being a general under Obama is a short term career job.

Guess he might as well polish up the fishing rods and go fishing.

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The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common
sense.

If he's going to run his mouth, then yes, I'd say it's time to leave. I
know your head hurts by it, but the fact is that the general works for
the Commander-in-Chief.

Yep, there is only room for one big mouth in Obama's government.

Some 20 years ago I had a boss like Obama. Always shooting his mouth
off from day one. Clearly showing pretty quickly he didn't know much.
About 2-3 weeks in he called me, the senior person of the crew and
told me to "Do as I tell you, not as you think.". I just got up, on
the way out I said I would be gone in a month.

I picked up the phone and I transfered out in 14 days. On the second
week he tried to talk me into staying, saying who is going to keep
this going. I just said, not my problem any more.

He ws fired in 4 months. He tried the same BS on the only other one
that knew jack crap about how things really worked and he too said
enough was enough.

The plant closed 8 months later.

The moral, if you **** off someone below you, make sure you can afford
to loose them or have them as enemies.
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The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

Moral of the story... you lost your job. I know you're bitter about it.


Funny, I knew it was coming and cashed out. Then got another job. You,
still unemployed to a point you are unemployable.

How long does unemployment last?

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The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

Funny (well not really), you're a liar.

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On 22/06/2010 8:40 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:30:37 -0700, JR North
wrote:

He would have done well to review McArthur's fall from grace with
Harry Truman before running his mouth off.
JR

If the quotes we are hearing are correct, he was way out of line,
almost unbelievably so for someone in his position. Perhaps in his
subconcious mind he really wanted out of the job. Things like that
happen.

Or perhaps he has had it with Obama's BS and wants out.

--
The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

Or, perhaps you're just an idiot.


I can't wait for McCrystal to have the freedom to speak his mind. I just
hope he doesn't suffer from a "fatal accident" before he gets to tell all.


I can't wait for someone with your pea-braininess to finally realize that
being a sockpuppet doesn't enhance your manliness.

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On 23/06/2010 6:41 AM, Harold wrote:
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On 22/06/2010 8:40 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:30:37 -0700, JR North
wrote:

He would have done well to review McArthur's fall from grace with
Harry Truman before running his mouth off.
JR

If the quotes we are hearing are correct, he was way out of line,
almost unbelievably so for someone in his position. Perhaps in his
subconcious mind he really wanted out of the job. Things like that
happen.

Or perhaps he has had it with Obama's BS and wants out.

--
The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

Or, perhaps you're just an idiot.


I can't wait for McCrystal to have the freedom to speak his mind. I just
hope he doesn't suffer from a "fatal accident" before he gets to tell
all.

One never knows.

--
The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

No. You never know because you're plainly stupid.

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On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:04:45 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:


I hear being a general under Obama is a short term career job.

so was being a general under truman

and remember general shinseki, under bush?


Guess he might as well polish up the fishing rods and go fishing.

notice he never complains about the rich white frat boy who screwed
this whole thing up?


Bush fired or "retired" many generals for speaking out. I think Obama
should not fire him unless he believes that McCrystall can no longer do
the job he was assigned to do.


Obama's ego will cause McCrystal to be fired.


Your ego needs to be self-inflated to compensate for your obvious lack of
intelligence.

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On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:04:45 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:


I hear being a general under Obama is a short term career job.

so was being a general under truman

and remember general shinseki, under bush?


Guess he might as well polish up the fishing rods and go fishing.

notice he never complains about the rich white frat boy who screwed
this whole thing up?


Bush fired or "retired" many generals for speaking out. I think Obama
should not fire him unless he believes that McCrystall can no longer do
the job he was assigned to do.


Obama's ego will cause McCrystal to be fired.

He is a thin skinned little man, isn't he?

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!

Yeah, you are.

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On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:04:45 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:


I hear being a general under Obama is a short term career job.

so was being a general under truman

and remember general shinseki, under bush?


Guess he might as well polish up the fishing rods and go fishing.

notice he never complains about the rich white frat boy who screwed
this whole thing up?


Bush fired or "retired" many generals for speaking out. I think Obama
should not fire him unless he believes that McCrystall can no longer do
the job he was assigned to do.


Obama's ego will cause McCrystal to be fired.


Your ego needs to be self-inflated to compensate for your obvious lack of
intelligence.


Was he fired or not, Dippy?

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On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 19:31:13 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 22/06/2010 6:57 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

"Canuck57" wrote in message
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I hear being a general under Obama is a short term career job.

Guess he might as well polish up the fishing rods and go fishing.

--
The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

If he's going to run his mouth, then yes, I'd say it's time to leave. I
know your head hurts by it, but the fact is that the general works for
the Commander-in-Chief.

Yep, there is only room for one big mouth in Obama's government.

canuck forgets that the US is a civilian led democracy. he'd prefer an
oligarchy run by the rich.

so when a general mouths off, like mcarthur did, the pres fires him

canuck is kinda stupid in most ways...being a conservative


Some 20 years ago I had a boss like Obama. Always shooting his mouth
off from day one.

you were a 3 star general? who knew!!


The moral, if you **** off someone below you, make sure you can afford
to loose them or have them as enemies.

and vice versa

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On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 07:14:59 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 23/06/2010 2:33 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 20:28:37 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:



it's his plan. NOW he bitches he's not being listened to.

it's bizarre

Not at all. Obama hasn't figured out the enemy is like school yard
bullies.

gee he didn't have to figure it out. all he had to do is hire a
general who DID know.

and rely on that general to develop a plan..which mccrystal did.

you are kinda stupid...even for a conservative

You need to bloody their noses once and awhile to keep them
smarter. Obama has taken the do no harm stand as he loves muslims.

which is, i supposed, why he sent 40,000 more troops to afghanistan,
tripled the number of predator drone attacks, etc...

yes. your logic is, as usual...remarkable

Well, it is getting them killed. Guess the generals are getting sick of
DC head up their arse decisions.

except, of course, mccrystal is the author of the current plan in
afghanistan

bag of rocks...that's how incredibly stupid you are.

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On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 13:06:28 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 04:34:21 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 22:12:57 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 22/06/2010 8:40 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:30:37 -0700, JR North
wrote:

He would have done well to review McArthur's fall from grace with
Harry Truman before running his mouth off.
JR

If the quotes we are hearing are correct, he was way out of line,
almost unbelievably so for someone in his position. Perhaps in his
subconcious mind he really wanted out of the job. Things like that
happen.

Or perhaps he has had it with Obama's BS and wants out.

mcchrystal determined the plan we're using in afghanistan. if there's
BS, it's mcchrystal's

McChrystal is upset that Obama might actually follow the time table
and get us out of Afghanistan next year.

gee. he never said that. lemme guess...you got this from rush's
crystal ball...

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"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:04:45 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:


I hear being a general under Obama is a short term career job.

so was being a general under truman

and remember general shinseki, under bush?


Guess he might as well polish up the fishing rods and go fishing.

notice he never complains about the rich white frat boy who screwed
this whole thing up?


Bush fired or "retired" many generals for speaking out. I think Obama
should not fire him unless he believes that McCrystall can no longer do
the job he was assigned to do.


Obama's ego will cause McCrystal to be fired.


Your ego needs to be self-inflated to compensate for your obvious lack of
intelligence.


Was he fired or not, Dippy?


He was fires for insubordination, as opposed to what Bush did... fire people
for stating facts, Dufus.

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On 23/06/2010 7:19 AM, Harry wrote:
On 6/23/10 9:12 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 23/06/2010 12:13 AM, nom=de=plume wrote:

"Canuck57" wrote in message
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On 22/06/2010 6:57 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

"Canuck57" wrote in message
...

I hear being a general under Obama is a short term career job.

Guess he might as well polish up the fishing rods and go fishing.

--
The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common
sense.

If he's going to run his mouth, then yes, I'd say it's time to
leave. I
know your head hurts by it, but the fact is that the general works for
the Commander-in-Chief.

Yep, there is only room for one big mouth in Obama's government.

Some 20 years ago I had a boss like Obama. Always shooting his mouth
off from day one. Clearly showing pretty quickly he didn't know much.
About 2-3 weeks in he called me, the senior person of the crew and
told me to "Do as I tell you, not as you think.". I just got up, on
the way out I said I would be gone in a month.

I picked up the phone and I transfered out in 14 days. On the second
week he tried to talk me into staying, saying who is going to keep
this going. I just said, not my problem any more.

He ws fired in 4 months. He tried the same BS on the only other one
that knew jack crap about how things really worked and he too said
enough was enough.

The plant closed 8 months later.

The moral, if you **** off someone below you, make sure you can afford
to loose them or have them as enemies.
--
The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

Moral of the story... you lost your job. I know you're bitter about it.


Funny, I knew it was coming and cashed out. Then got another job. You,
still unemployed to a point you are unemployable.

How long does unemployment last?



I know this will come as a shock to a low-level and soon to be laid off
wage-earner like you, Canucki, but self-employed people are not
"unemployed."

Perhaps your buds on the right here believe the economical and political
crap you spew, but those of us who are conscious and sentient
get a whiff of your bull**** everytime you hit the "SEND" button.

The other day you claimed you were interested in buying a McDonald's
franchise.

Bull****.

You couldn't pay for a simple $5 lunch for a half dozen posters here.

Hahaha, you are pathetic.

--
The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.