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On 23/06/2010 2:40 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 07:14:59 -0600,
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On 23/06/2010 2:33 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 20:28:37 -0700, "Califbill"
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it's his plan. NOW he bitches he's not being listened to.

it's bizarre

Not at all. Obama hasn't figured out the enemy is like school yard
bullies.

gee he didn't have to figure it out. all he had to do is hire a
general who DID know.

and rely on that general to develop a plan..which mccrystal did.

you are kinda stupid...even for a conservative

You need to bloody their noses once and awhile to keep them
smarter. Obama has taken the do no harm stand as he loves muslims.

which is, i supposed, why he sent 40,000 more troops to afghanistan,
tripled the number of predator drone attacks, etc...

yes. your logic is, as usual...remarkable

Well, it is getting them killed. Guess the generals are getting sick of
DC head up their arse decisions.

except, of course, mccrystal is the author of the current plan in
afghanistan

bag of rocks...that's how incredibly stupid you are.

Coming from you, thanks for the compliment.

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On 23/06/2010 11:56 AM, Harold wrote:
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McChrystal is upset that Obama might actually follow the time table
and get us out of Afghanistan next year. Military people make war for
a living and they promote their craft. That is why we have civilian
oversight. In the end it is really McCrystal's decision to leave the
Army or not but he can have his options in the Army severely limited


What most career military personnel want most is to stay in uniform, no
matter what.

I doubt McCrystal will be willing to fly a desk in Fumbuck Arkansas.
If Obama relieves him, he will be spending more time with his family
and writing his memoirs. He might even get a show on Fox like Ollie.

Obie just fired him. His humongus ego wouldn't let him do otherwise.

Hey, once out and a civilian he can talk.... Will be interesting.

No surprize, Obama's ego, good assertion.

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I hear being a general under Obama is a short term career job.

so was being a general under truman

and remember general shinseki, under bush?


Guess he might as well polish up the fishing rods and go fishing.

notice he never complains about the rich white frat boy who screwed
this whole thing up?


Bush fired or "retired" many generals for speaking out. I think Obama
should not fire him unless he believes that McCrystall can no longer do
the job he was assigned to do.


Obama's ego will cause McCrystal to be fired.

I'm going to talk to Obama today and get this mess straightened out.

Make sure you take you skitz meds.

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On 23/06/2010 2:33 PM, Harold wrote:
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I hear being a general under Obama is a short term career job.

so was being a general under truman

and remember general shinseki, under bush?


Guess he might as well polish up the fishing rods and go fishing.

notice he never complains about the rich white frat boy who screwed
this whole thing up?


Bush fired or "retired" many generals for speaking out. I think Obama
should not fire him unless he believes that McCrystall can no longer do
the job he was assigned to do.


Obama's ego will cause McCrystal to be fired.


Your ego needs to be self-inflated to compensate for your obvious lack of
intelligence.


Was he fired or not, Dippy?

Fired. Ok, in technical point he resigned. Gets him a bigger pension.
Good move if you think Obama is a jack ass.


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The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

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I hear being a general under Obama is a short term career job.

so was being a general under truman

and remember general shinseki, under bush?


Guess he might as well polish up the fishing rods and go fishing.

notice he never complains about the rich white frat boy who screwed
this whole thing up?


Bush fired or "retired" many generals for speaking out. I think
Obama should not fire him unless he believes that McCrystall can no
longer do the job he was assigned to do.


Obama's ego will cause McCrystal to be fired.


Your ego needs to be self-inflated to compensate for your obvious
lack of intelligence.


Was he fired or not, Dippy?


He was fires for insubordination, as opposed to what Bush did... fire
people for stating facts, Dufus.

He resigned, probably was put to him, resign with full pension or I will
fire you for my ego and cause you pension grief.

He chose wisely and resigned.

--
The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

Generals going fishing
 

On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 19:35:23 -0600, Canuck57
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On 23/06/2010 11:56 AM, Harold wrote:
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McChrystal is upset that Obama might actually follow the time table
and get us out of Afghanistan next year. Military people make war for
a living and they promote their craft. That is why we have civilian
oversight. In the end it is really McCrystal's decision to leave the
Army or not but he can have his options in the Army severely limited


What most career military personnel want most is to stay in uniform, no
matter what.

I doubt McCrystal will be willing to fly a desk in Fumbuck Arkansas.
If Obama relieves him, he will be spending more time with his family
and writing his memoirs. He might even get a show on Fox like Ollie.

Obie just fired him. His humongus ego wouldn't let him do otherwise.

Hey, once out and a civilian he can talk.... Will be interesting.

No surprize, Obama's ego, good assertion.

no politician has an ego.

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On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 19:37:36 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

Fired. Ok, in technical point he resigned. Gets him a bigger pension.
Good move if you think Obama is a jack ass.


except mcchrystal was the author of the current plan for afghanistan

you saying he thinks obama's an ass for accepting his plan?

you really are stupid, aren't you?

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I hear being a general under Obama is a short term career job.

so was being a general under truman

and remember general shinseki, under bush?


Guess he might as well polish up the fishing rods and go fishing.

notice he never complains about the rich white frat boy who screwed
this whole thing up?


Bush fired or "retired" many generals for speaking out. I think
Obama should not fire him unless he believes that McCrystall can no
longer do the job he was assigned to do.


Obama's ego will cause McCrystal to be fired.


Your ego needs to be self-inflated to compensate for your obvious
lack of intelligence.


Was he fired or not, Dippy?


He was fires for insubordination, as opposed to what Bush did... fire
people for stating facts, Dufus.

He resigned, probably was put to him, resign with full pension or I will
fire you for my ego and cause you pension grief.

He chose wisely and resigned.

--
The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

He didn't have a choice. He was told to resign. He follows orders. You're an
idiot.

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I hear being a general under Obama is a short term career job.

so was being a general under truman

and remember general shinseki, under bush?


Guess he might as well polish up the fishing rods and go fishing.

notice he never complains about the rich white frat boy who screwed
this whole thing up?


Bush fired or "retired" many generals for speaking out. I think Obama
should not fire him unless he believes that McCrystall can no longer
do
the job he was assigned to do.


Obama's ego will cause McCrystal to be fired.


Your ego needs to be self-inflated to compensate for your obvious lack
of
intelligence.


Was he fired or not, Dippy?

Fired. Ok, in technical point he resigned. Gets him a bigger pension.
Good move if you think Obama is a jack ass.


--
The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

I know you're a jackass.

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McChrystal was stupid.

There is room for only one C in C Armed Forces at a time and the C in C
and should not tolerate open insubordination.

It's also against the code of conduct of the military to speak about
military-government differences publicly.

McCrystal was free to try and argue with President Barack Obama, Vice
President Joe Biden, Richard Holbrooke and Karl Eikenberry while
decisions were being worked out but once they were decided he had only
two options-soldier on or resign.

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On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:04:45 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:


I hear being a general under Obama is a short term career job.

so was being a general under truman

and remember general shinseki, under bush?


Guess he might as well polish up the fishing rods and go fishing.

notice he never complains about the rich white frat boy who screwed
this whole thing up?


Bush fired or "retired" many generals for speaking out. I think Obama
should not fire him unless he believes that McCrystall can no longer do
the job he was assigned to do.


Obama's ego will cause McCrystal to be fired.

He is a thin skinned little man, isn't he?

Actually, you short ****, several presidents have fired there generals
for less. Truman/McArthur, Lincoln fired several before finding Grant,
Johnson fired Lemay, McKinley fired Lemay, etc.

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On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:04:45 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:


I hear being a general under Obama is a short term career job.

so was being a general under truman

and remember general shinseki, under bush?


Guess he might as well polish up the fishing rods and go fishing.

notice he never complains about the rich white frat boy who screwed
this whole thing up?


Bush fired or "retired" many generals for speaking out. I think
Obama should not fire him unless he believes that McCrystall can no
longer do the job he was assigned to do.


Obama's ego will cause McCrystal to be fired.


Your ego needs to be self-inflated to compensate for your obvious
lack of intelligence.


Was he fired or not, Dippy?


He was fires for insubordination, as opposed to what Bush did... fire
people for stating facts, Dufus.

He resigned, probably was put to him, resign with full pension or I will
fire you for my ego and cause you pension grief.

He chose wisely and resigned.

--
The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

He didn't have a choice. He was told to resign. He follows orders. You're
an idiot.


And I suppose you were a flea on the wall and heard every word of what
transpired.
We do know one thing for sure. Obie wasn't pleased to have a four star
general of the army spit in his face.

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On 6/24/10 8:04 AM, Harold wrote:
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I hear being a general under Obama is a short term career job.

so was being a general under truman

and remember general shinseki, under bush?


Guess he might as well polish up the fishing rods and go fishing.

notice he never complains about the rich white frat boy who screwed
this whole thing up?


Bush fired or "retired" many generals for speaking out. I think
Obama should not fire him unless he believes that McCrystall can no
longer do the job he was assigned to do.


Obama's ego will cause McCrystal to be fired.


Your ego needs to be self-inflated to compensate for your obvious
lack of intelligence.


Was he fired or not, Dippy?


He was fires for insubordination, as opposed to what Bush did... fire
people for stating facts, Dufus.

He resigned, probably was put to him, resign with full pension or I will
fire you for my ego and cause you pension grief.

He chose wisely and resigned.

--
The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

He didn't have a choice. He was told to resign. He follows orders. You're
an idiot.


And I suppose you were a flea on the wall and heard every word of what
transpired.
We do know one thing for sure. Obie wasn't pleased to have a four star
general of the army spit in his face.




The general was an out-of-control asshole whose mission, the one he
designed and implemented, was failing. He has a long history of shooting
off his mouth. He also has a booze problem, and wasn't he the general
who covered up the Tillman cluster****?

Generals are a dime a dozen.

Obama let him resign rather than fire him so that the general could keep
that fourth star and the benefits it brings. The general had no class.
The president does have class.

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I hear being a general under Obama is a short term career job.

so was being a general under truman

and remember general shinseki, under bush?


Guess he might as well polish up the fishing rods and go
fishing.

notice he never complains about the rich white frat boy who
screwed
this whole thing up?


Bush fired or "retired" many generals for speaking out. I think
Obama should not fire him unless he believes that McCrystall can
no
longer do the job he was assigned to do.


Obama's ego will cause McCrystal to be fired.


Your ego needs to be self-inflated to compensate for your obvious
lack of intelligence.


Was he fired or not, Dippy?


He was fires for insubordination, as opposed to what Bush did... fire
people for stating facts, Dufus.

He resigned, probably was put to him, resign with full pension or I
will
fire you for my ego and cause you pension grief.

He chose wisely and resigned.

--
The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

He didn't have a choice. He was told to resign. He follows orders.
You're
an idiot.


And I suppose you were a flea on the wall and heard every word of what
transpired.
We do know one thing for sure. Obie wasn't pleased to have a four star
general of the army spit in his face.




The general was an out-of-control asshole whose mission, the one he
designed and implemented, was failing. He has a long history of shooting
off his mouth. He also has a booze problem, and wasn't he the general who
covered up the Tillman cluster****?

Generals are a dime a dozen.

Obama let him resign rather than fire him so that the general could keep
that fourth star and the benefits it brings. The general had no class. The
president does have class.



If generals are a dime a dozen, I guess that makes cowards like you less
than worthless.

I have scraped better than you off the bottom of my shoe.

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I hear being a general under Obama is a short term career job.

so was being a general under truman

and remember general shinseki, under bush?


Guess he might as well polish up the fishing rods and go
fishing.

notice he never complains about the rich white frat boy who
screwed
this whole thing up?


Bush fired or "retired" many generals for speaking out. I think
Obama should not fire him unless he believes that McCrystall can
no
longer do the job he was assigned to do.


Obama's ego will cause McCrystal to be fired.


Your ego needs to be self-inflated to compensate for your obvious
lack of intelligence.


Was he fired or not, Dippy?


He was fires for insubordination, as opposed to what Bush did... fire
people for stating facts, Dufus.

He resigned, probably was put to him, resign with full pension or I
will
fire you for my ego and cause you pension grief.

He chose wisely and resigned.

--
The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

He didn't have a choice. He was told to resign. He follows orders.
You're
an idiot.


And I suppose you were a flea on the wall and heard every word of what
transpired.
We do know one thing for sure. Obie wasn't pleased to have a four star
general of the army spit in his face.




The general was an out-of-control asshole whose mission, the one he
designed and implemented, was failing. He has a long history of shooting
off his mouth. He also has a booze problem, and wasn't he the general who
covered up the Tillman cluster****?

Generals are a dime a dozen.

Obama let him resign rather than fire him so that the general could keep
that fourth star and the benefits it brings. The general had no class. The
president does have class.



If generals are a dime a dozen, I guess that makes cowards like you less
than worthless.

I have scraped better than you off the bottom of my shoe.



You should be more careful in your house.

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I hear being a general under Obama is a short term career job.

so was being a general under truman

and remember general shinseki, under bush?


Guess he might as well polish up the fishing rods and go
fishing.

notice he never complains about the rich white frat boy who
screwed
this whole thing up?


Bush fired or "retired" many generals for speaking out. I think
Obama should not fire him unless he believes that McCrystall can
no
longer do the job he was assigned to do.


Obama's ego will cause McCrystal to be fired.


Your ego needs to be self-inflated to compensate for your obvious
lack of intelligence.


Was he fired or not, Dippy?


He was fires for insubordination, as opposed to what Bush did...
fire
people for stating facts, Dufus.

He resigned, probably was put to him, resign with full pension or I
will
fire you for my ego and cause you pension grief.

He chose wisely and resigned.

--
The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common
sense.

He didn't have a choice. He was told to resign. He follows orders.
You're
an idiot.


And I suppose you were a flea on the wall and heard every word of what
transpired.
We do know one thing for sure. Obie wasn't pleased to have a four star
general of the army spit in his face.




The general was an out-of-control asshole whose mission, the one he
designed and implemented, was failing. He has a long history of shooting
off his mouth. He also has a booze problem, and wasn't he the general
who
covered up the Tillman cluster****?

Generals are a dime a dozen.

Obama let him resign rather than fire him so that the general could keep
that fourth star and the benefits it brings. The general had no class.
The
president does have class.



If generals are a dime a dozen, I guess that makes cowards like you less
than worthless.

I have scraped better than you off the bottom of my shoe.



You should be more careful in your house.
Gufaw!

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On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:04:45 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:


I hear being a general under Obama is a short term career job.

so was being a general under truman

and remember general shinseki, under bush?


Guess he might as well polish up the fishing rods and go fishing.

notice he never complains about the rich white frat boy who screwed
this whole thing up?


Bush fired or "retired" many generals for speaking out. I think Obama
should not fire him unless he believes that McCrystall can no longer
do
the job he was assigned to do.


Obama's ego will cause McCrystal to be fired.

He is a thin skinned little man, isn't he?

Actually, you short ****, several presidents have fired there generals
for less. Truman/McArthur, Lincoln fired several before finding Grant,
Johnson fired Lemay, McKinley fired Lemay, etc.

Bush fired Shinseki for telling the truth at a congressional hearing where
he was under oath. Does that count?

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He didn't have a choice. He was told to resign. He follows orders. You're
an
idiot.


They really can't order him to resign but they can make it the most
attractive option.
Usually, in these situations, the guy actually wants the freedom to
speak freely so he goes. I just hope we don't have to hear the "old
soldier" speech.
I imagine he will be doing the Sunday shows the weekend after he is
separated. Then we will hear what he really thinks.

I think we already know what he "really thinks." The point is that it was
insubordination, and that can't be tolerated in the command staff.

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On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:04:45 -0600, Canuck57
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I hear being a general under Obama is a short term career job.

so was being a general under truman

and remember general shinseki, under bush?


Guess he might as well polish up the fishing rods and go fishing.

notice he never complains about the rich white frat boy who
screwed
this whole thing up?


Bush fired or "retired" many generals for speaking out. I think
Obama should not fire him unless he believes that McCrystall can no
longer do the job he was assigned to do.


Obama's ego will cause McCrystal to be fired.


Your ego needs to be self-inflated to compensate for your obvious
lack of intelligence.


Was he fired or not, Dippy?


He was fires for insubordination, as opposed to what Bush did... fire
people for stating facts, Dufus.

He resigned, probably was put to him, resign with full pension or I will
fire you for my ego and cause you pension grief.

He chose wisely and resigned.

--
The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

He didn't have a choice. He was told to resign. He follows orders. You're
an idiot.


And I suppose you were a flea on the wall and heard every word of what
transpired.
We do know one thing for sure. Obie wasn't pleased to have a four star
general of the army spit in his face.


You're a freakin moron.

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On 6/24/10 4:46 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 10:39:29 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 20:09:08 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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He didn't have a choice. He was told to resign. He follows orders. You're
an
idiot.


They really can't order him to resign but they can make it the most
attractive option.
Usually, in these situations, the guy actually wants the freedom to
speak freely so he goes. I just hope we don't have to hear the "old
soldier" speech.
I imagine he will be doing the Sunday shows the weekend after he is
separated. Then we will hear what he really thinks.

I think we already know what he "really thinks." The point is that it was
insubordination, and that can't be tolerated in the command staff.


My bet is we ain't heard nothin' yet.
This guy will write a book and do the talk show circuit, probably
ending up with a show on Fox or CNN.
I expect to see him Sunday if he gets mustered out by then.


Spot on. I was more than willing to give him the benefit of the doubt
and charge off his insubordination to strange circumstances, but the
more I hear about this guy, the more the bozo he seems. He apparently
was involved in the Tillman coverup and in torture cases, too.

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On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 20:09:08 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

He didn't have a choice. He was told to resign. He follows orders.
You're
an
idiot.


They really can't order him to resign but they can make it the most
attractive option.
Usually, in these situations, the guy actually wants the freedom to
speak freely so he goes. I just hope we don't have to hear the "old
soldier" speech.
I imagine he will be doing the Sunday shows the weekend after he is
separated. Then we will hear what he really thinks.

I think we already know what he "really thinks." The point is that it
was
insubordination, and that can't be tolerated in the command staff.


My bet is we ain't heard nothin' yet.
This guy will write a book and do the talk show circuit, probably
ending up with a show on Fox or CNN.
I expect to see him Sunday if he gets mustered out by then.


Spot on. I was more than willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and
charge off his insubordination to strange circumstances, but the more I
hear about this guy, the more the bozo he seems. He apparently was
involved in the Tillman coverup and in torture cases, too.

You give opie a pass for all the dung that was dug up about him yet you want
to nail this guy to the cross for blowing off a little steam.
Praise opie, Praise allah. You make me sick.

Generals going fishing
 

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On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 10:39:29 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 20:09:08 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

He didn't have a choice. He was told to resign. He follows orders.
You're
an
idiot.


They really can't order him to resign but they can make it the most
attractive option.
Usually, in these situations, the guy actually wants the freedom to
speak freely so he goes. I just hope we don't have to hear the "old
soldier" speech.
I imagine he will be doing the Sunday shows the weekend after he is
separated. Then we will hear what he really thinks.

I think we already know what he "really thinks." The point is that it was
insubordination, and that can't be tolerated in the command staff.


My bet is we ain't heard nothin' yet.
This guy will write a book and do the talk show circuit, probably
ending up with a show on Fox or CNN.
I expect to see him Sunday if he gets mustered out by then.

Well, yet again it's all about what might or might not happen. The fact is
that he was insubordinate and that was way off base. He knew this, but he
was so arrogant that it didn't matter. His reputation will be tarnished for
his dismissal (and for other things like the Tilman debacle).

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"Harry" wrote in message
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On 6/24/10 4:46 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 10:39:29 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


wrote in message
...
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 20:09:08 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

He didn't have a choice. He was told to resign. He follows orders.
You're
an
idiot.


They really can't order him to resign but they can make it the most
attractive option.
Usually, in these situations, the guy actually wants the freedom to
speak freely so he goes. I just hope we don't have to hear the "old
soldier" speech.
I imagine he will be doing the Sunday shows the weekend after he is
separated. Then we will hear what he really thinks.

I think we already know what he "really thinks." The point is that it
was
insubordination, and that can't be tolerated in the command staff.


My bet is we ain't heard nothin' yet.
This guy will write a book and do the talk show circuit, probably
ending up with a show on Fox or CNN.
I expect to see him Sunday if he gets mustered out by then.


Spot on. I was more than willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and
charge off his insubordination to strange circumstances, but the more I
hear about this guy, the more the bozo he seems. He apparently was
involved in the Tillman coverup and in torture cases, too.


He had to explain himself to Congress about the latter previously I believe.

Generals going fishing
 

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"Harry" wrote in message
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On 6/24/10 4:46 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 10:39:29 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


wrote in message
...
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 20:09:08 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

He didn't have a choice. He was told to resign. He follows orders.
You're
an
idiot.


They really can't order him to resign but they can make it the most
attractive option.
Usually, in these situations, the guy actually wants the freedom to
speak freely so he goes. I just hope we don't have to hear the "old
soldier" speech.
I imagine he will be doing the Sunday shows the weekend after he is
separated. Then we will hear what he really thinks.

I think we already know what he "really thinks." The point is that it
was
insubordination, and that can't be tolerated in the command staff.


My bet is we ain't heard nothin' yet.
This guy will write a book and do the talk show circuit, probably
ending up with a show on Fox or CNN.
I expect to see him Sunday if he gets mustered out by then.


Spot on. I was more than willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and
charge off his insubordination to strange circumstances, but the more I
hear about this guy, the more the bozo he seems. He apparently was
involved in the Tillman coverup and in torture cases, too.

You give opie a pass for all the dung that was dug up about him yet you
want to nail this guy to the cross for blowing off a little steam.
Praise opie, Praise allah. You make me sick.


Feel free to list all the dung... nope... a bunch of right-wing bs, unless
you count his Kenyan citize.... oops.

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On 6/24/10 6:26 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

"Harry" wrote in message
m...
On 6/24/10 4:46 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 10:39:29 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


wrote in message
...
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 20:09:08 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

He didn't have a choice. He was told to resign. He follows orders.
You're
an
idiot.


They really can't order him to resign but they can make it the most
attractive option.
Usually, in these situations, the guy actually wants the freedom to
speak freely so he goes. I just hope we don't have to hear the "old
soldier" speech.
I imagine he will be doing the Sunday shows the weekend after he is
separated. Then we will hear what he really thinks.

I think we already know what he "really thinks." The point is that
it was
insubordination, and that can't be tolerated in the command staff.


My bet is we ain't heard nothin' yet.
This guy will write a book and do the talk show circuit, probably
ending up with a show on Fox or CNN.
I expect to see him Sunday if he gets mustered out by then.


Spot on. I was more than willing to give him the benefit of the doubt
and charge off his insubordination to strange circumstances, but the
more I hear about this guy, the more the bozo he seems. He apparently
was involved in the Tillman coverup and in torture cases, too.


He had to explain himself to Congress about the latter previously I
believe.



The more I hear about him the less impressed I am. Good riddance.

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"Harry" wrote in message
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On 6/24/10 4:46 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 10:39:29 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


wrote in message
...
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 20:09:08 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

He didn't have a choice. He was told to resign. He follows orders.
You're
an
idiot.


They really can't order him to resign but they can make it the most
attractive option.
Usually, in these situations, the guy actually wants the freedom to
speak freely so he goes. I just hope we don't have to hear the "old
soldier" speech.
I imagine he will be doing the Sunday shows the weekend after he is
separated. Then we will hear what he really thinks.

I think we already know what he "really thinks." The point is that it
was
insubordination, and that can't be tolerated in the command staff.


My bet is we ain't heard nothin' yet.
This guy will write a book and do the talk show circuit, probably
ending up with a show on Fox or CNN.
I expect to see him Sunday if he gets mustered out by then.


Spot on. I was more than willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and
charge off his insubordination to strange circumstances, but the more I
hear about this guy, the more the bozo he seems. He apparently was
involved in the Tillman coverup and in torture cases, too.


He had to explain himself to Congress about the latter previously I
believe.


It's tough to serve the president and keep your nose clean at the same time.
Especially this one.

Generals going fishing
 

On 6/24/10 6:33 PM, Harold wrote:
wrote in message
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wrote in message
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On 6/24/10 4:46 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 10:39:29 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


wrote in message
...
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 20:09:08 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

He didn't have a choice. He was told to resign. He follows orders.
You're
an
idiot.


They really can't order him to resign but they can make it the most
attractive option.
Usually, in these situations, the guy actually wants the freedom to
speak freely so he goes. I just hope we don't have to hear the "old
soldier" speech.
I imagine he will be doing the Sunday shows the weekend after he is
separated. Then we will hear what he really thinks.

I think we already know what he "really thinks." The point is that it
was
insubordination, and that can't be tolerated in the command staff.


My bet is we ain't heard nothin' yet.
This guy will write a book and do the talk show circuit, probably
ending up with a show on Fox or CNN.
I expect to see him Sunday if he gets mustered out by then.


Spot on. I was more than willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and
charge off his insubordination to strange circumstances, but the more I
hear about this guy, the more the bozo he seems. He apparently was
involved in the Tillman coverup and in torture cases, too.


He had to explain himself to Congress about the latter previously I
believe.


It's tough to serve the president and keep your nose clean at the same time.
Especially this one.




At some point you and the rest of the right-wing scumbags, and I mean
that literally, will choke on your bile.

Good riddance...whenever it comes.

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"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
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"Harry" wrote in message
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On 6/24/10 4:46 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 10:39:29 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


wrote in message
...
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 20:09:08 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

He didn't have a choice. He was told to resign. He follows orders.
You're
an
idiot.


They really can't order him to resign but they can make it the most
attractive option.
Usually, in these situations, the guy actually wants the freedom to
speak freely so he goes. I just hope we don't have to hear the "old
soldier" speech.
I imagine he will be doing the Sunday shows the weekend after he is
separated. Then we will hear what he really thinks.

I think we already know what he "really thinks." The point is that it
was
insubordination, and that can't be tolerated in the command staff.


My bet is we ain't heard nothin' yet.
This guy will write a book and do the talk show circuit, probably
ending up with a show on Fox or CNN.
I expect to see him Sunday if he gets mustered out by then.


Spot on. I was more than willing to give him the benefit of the doubt
and charge off his insubordination to strange circumstances, but the
more I hear about this guy, the more the bozo he seems. He apparently
was involved in the Tillman coverup and in torture cases, too.


He had to explain himself to Congress about the latter previously I
believe.


It's tough to serve the president and keep your nose clean at the same
time. Especially this one.


It's tough to be an idiot, but you seem to be managing it well!

Generals going fishing
 

Generals going fishing
 

On 23/06/2010 9:09 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

"Canuck57" wrote in message
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On 23/06/2010 3:03 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

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On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:04:45 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:


I hear being a general under Obama is a short term career job.

so was being a general under truman

and remember general shinseki, under bush?


Guess he might as well polish up the fishing rods and go fishing.

notice he never complains about the rich white frat boy who screwed
this whole thing up?


Bush fired or "retired" many generals for speaking out. I think
Obama should not fire him unless he believes that McCrystall can no
longer do the job he was assigned to do.


Obama's ego will cause McCrystal to be fired.


Your ego needs to be self-inflated to compensate for your obvious
lack of intelligence.


Was he fired or not, Dippy?


He was fires for insubordination, as opposed to what Bush did... fire
people for stating facts, Dufus.

He resigned, probably was put to him, resign with full pension or I
will fire you for my ego and cause you pension grief.

He chose wisely and resigned.

--
The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

He didn't have a choice. He was told to resign. He follows orders.
You're an idiot.

Guess Obama is now also going to have to fire a judge saying even the
Obama must follow due process.

Obama is an arrogant big mouth ass hole.

--
The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

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On 24/06/2010 2:46 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 10:39:29 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


wrote in message
...
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 20:09:08 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

He didn't have a choice. He was told to resign. He follows orders. You're
an
idiot.


They really can't order him to resign but they can make it the most
attractive option.
Usually, in these situations, the guy actually wants the freedom to
speak freely so he goes. I just hope we don't have to hear the "old
soldier" speech.
I imagine he will be doing the Sunday shows the weekend after he is
separated. Then we will hear what he really thinks.

I think we already know what he "really thinks." The point is that it was
insubordination, and that can't be tolerated in the command staff.


My bet is we ain't heard nothin' yet.
This guy will write a book and do the talk show circuit, probably
ending up with a show on Fox or CNN.
I expect to see him Sunday if he gets mustered out by then.

Make a lot more money without the Obama turds.

--
The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

Generals going fishing
 

On 23/06/2010 7:56 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 19:37:36 -0600,
wrote:

Fired. Ok, in technical point he resigned. Gets him a bigger pension.
Good move if you think Obama is a jack ass.


except mcchrystal was the author of the current plan for afghanistan

you saying he thinks obama's an ass for accepting his plan?

you really are stupid, aren't you?

My guess is just seeing how fast Obama knee jerks, bet he had it with
the presidents mixed messages and confusion.

Obama is just the kind of guy to backstab. Give you an order, get the
#%*% and I don't care what it takes. Then when you do he tries to burn
you for following orders.

Obama is going to go for a judge next. Could be interesting as I figure
Obama's ego and demenor is like Chavez, and will be interesting to see
if the checks and balances of the US judicial system still have meaning.

Because even BP deserves a trial. Just because the president brings
rope does not mean there should be a hanging without due process. We
also saw how GM bond holders were in a precident setting way, screwed
out of their court hearing in GMs default.

Obama clearly shows he thinks law is a hinderance to his ego.

--
The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

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On 24/06/2010 4:32 PM, Harry wrote:
On 6/24/10 6:26 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

"Harry" wrote in message
m...
On 6/24/10 4:46 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 10:39:29 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


wrote in message
...
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 20:09:08 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

He didn't have a choice. He was told to resign. He follows orders.
You're
an
idiot.


They really can't order him to resign but they can make it the most
attractive option.
Usually, in these situations, the guy actually wants the freedom to
speak freely so he goes. I just hope we don't have to hear the "old
soldier" speech.
I imagine he will be doing the Sunday shows the weekend after he is
separated. Then we will hear what he really thinks.

I think we already know what he "really thinks." The point is that
it was
insubordination, and that can't be tolerated in the command staff.


My bet is we ain't heard nothin' yet.
This guy will write a book and do the talk show circuit, probably
ending up with a show on Fox or CNN.
I expect to see him Sunday if he gets mustered out by then.


Spot on. I was more than willing to give him the benefit of the doubt
and charge off his insubordination to strange circumstances, but the
more I hear about this guy, the more the bozo he seems. He apparently
was involved in the Tillman coverup and in torture cases, too.


He had to explain himself to Congress about the latter previously I
believe.



The more I hear about him the less impressed I am. Good riddance.

Hey, more decent from the judges I hear. Obama going to fire them too?

Is that Whitehouse, Venezuela I hear?
--
The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

Generals going fishing
 

On 24/06/2010 11:38 AM, nom=de=plume wrote:

"Harry" wrote in message
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In article ,
says...

In article ,
says...

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
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"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:04:45 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:


I hear being a general under Obama is a short term career job.

so was being a general under truman

and remember general shinseki, under bush?


Guess he might as well polish up the fishing rods and go fishing.

notice he never complains about the rich white frat boy who screwed
this whole thing up?


Bush fired or "retired" many generals for speaking out. I think
Obama
should not fire him unless he believes that McCrystall can no
longer do
the job he was assigned to do.


Obama's ego will cause McCrystal to be fired.

He is a thin skinned little man, isn't he?

Actually, you short ****, several presidents have fired there generals
for less. Truman/McArthur, Lincoln fired several before finding Grant,
Johnson fired Lemay, McKinley fired Lemay, etc.

Bush fired Shinseki for telling the truth at a congressional hearing
where he was under oath. Does that count?

We will see, hasn't Obama done two generals? All the same I think Obama
be plotting a judge next.

Clearly the man things like Chavez that he has no limits. Going to be
nice to see Obama fall when he goes too far.

--
The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

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"Canuck57" wrote in message
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On 24/06/2010 11:38 AM, nom=de=plume wrote:

"Harry" wrote in message
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In article ,
says...

In article ,
says...

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
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"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:04:45 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:


I hear being a general under Obama is a short term career job.

so was being a general under truman

and remember general shinseki, under bush?


Guess he might as well polish up the fishing rods and go fishing.

notice he never complains about the rich white frat boy who
screwed
this whole thing up?


Bush fired or "retired" many generals for speaking out. I think
Obama
should not fire him unless he believes that McCrystall can no
longer do
the job he was assigned to do.


Obama's ego will cause McCrystal to be fired.

He is a thin skinned little man, isn't he?

Actually, you short ****, several presidents have fired there generals
for less. Truman/McArthur, Lincoln fired several before finding Grant,
Johnson fired Lemay, McKinley fired Lemay, etc.

Bush fired Shinseki for telling the truth at a congressional hearing
where he was under oath. Does that count?

We will see, hasn't Obama done two generals? All the same I think Obama
be plotting a judge next.

He's plotting against you. You're next on his list to fire. Oh wait, you're
unemployed and unemployable. You're safe.. for now.


Clearly the man things like Chavez that he has no limits. Going to be
nice to see Obama fall when he goes too far.

--
The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

Things like Chavez??? You're an idiot.

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"Canuck57" wrote in message
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On 24/06/2010 4:32 PM, Harry wrote:
On 6/24/10 6:26 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

"Harry" wrote in message
m...
On 6/24/10 4:46 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 10:39:29 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


wrote in message
...
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 20:09:08 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

He didn't have a choice. He was told to resign. He follows orders.
You're
an
idiot.


They really can't order him to resign but they can make it the most
attractive option.
Usually, in these situations, the guy actually wants the freedom to
speak freely so he goes. I just hope we don't have to hear the "old
soldier" speech.
I imagine he will be doing the Sunday shows the weekend after he is
separated. Then we will hear what he really thinks.

I think we already know what he "really thinks." The point is that
it was
insubordination, and that can't be tolerated in the command staff.


My bet is we ain't heard nothin' yet.
This guy will write a book and do the talk show circuit, probably
ending up with a show on Fox or CNN.
I expect to see him Sunday if he gets mustered out by then.


Spot on. I was more than willing to give him the benefit of the doubt
and charge off his insubordination to strange circumstances, but the
more I hear about this guy, the more the bozo he seems. He apparently
was involved in the Tillman coverup and in torture cases, too.


He had to explain himself to Congress about the latter previously I
believe.



The more I hear about him the less impressed I am. Good riddance.

Hey, more decent from the judges I hear. Obama going to fire them too?

Is that Whitehouse, Venezuela I hear?
--
The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

Are you an idiot? Answer: yes.

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On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 15:26:09 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


wrote in message
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On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 10:39:29 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


wrote in message
m...
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 20:09:08 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

He didn't have a choice. He was told to resign. He follows orders.
You're
an
idiot.


They really can't order him to resign but they can make it the most
attractive option.
Usually, in these situations, the guy actually wants the freedom to
speak freely so he goes. I just hope we don't have to hear the "old
soldier" speech.
I imagine he will be doing the Sunday shows the weekend after he is
separated. Then we will hear what he really thinks.

I think we already know what he "really thinks." The point is that it
was
insubordination, and that can't be tolerated in the command staff.


My bet is we ain't heard nothin' yet.
This guy will write a book and do the talk show circuit, probably
ending up with a show on Fox or CNN.
I expect to see him Sunday if he gets mustered out by then.

Well, yet again it's all about what might or might not happen. The fact is
that he was insubordinate and that was way off base. He knew this, but he
was so arrogant that it didn't matter. His reputation will be tarnished
for
his dismissal (and for other things like the Tilman debacle).


This guy still has a lot of credibility. You don't get to where he was
without it.

Yes, and he lost a lot also.

It is clear he was very frustrated with the people in the White House.

So what. He should have followed the prescribed protocol and not complained
to a reporter. That's called insubordination.

I have already been criticized about my guess that he will say Obama
wants to get out before the job was done. (disagreeing with the
timetable was what I said)
Fortunately that guess will be tested on Sunday I imagine so we will
know pretty quickly

Sorry, no idea what you're talking about.... something is happening on
Sunday re the general?

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"Canuck57" wrote in message
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On 24/06/2010 2:46 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 10:39:29 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


wrote in message
...
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 20:09:08 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

He didn't have a choice. He was told to resign. He follows orders.
You're
an
idiot.


They really can't order him to resign but they can make it the most
attractive option.
Usually, in these situations, the guy actually wants the freedom to
speak freely so he goes. I just hope we don't have to hear the "old
soldier" speech.
I imagine he will be doing the Sunday shows the weekend after he is
separated. Then we will hear what he really thinks.

I think we already know what he "really thinks." The point is that it
was
insubordination, and that can't be tolerated in the command staff.


My bet is we ain't heard nothin' yet.
This guy will write a book and do the talk show circuit, probably
ending up with a show on Fox or CNN.
I expect to see him Sunday if he gets mustered out by then.

Make a lot more money without the Obama turds.

--
The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

Yes, we get that you're dirt poor...

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"Canuck57" wrote in message
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On 23/06/2010 9:09 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

"Canuck57" wrote in message
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On 23/06/2010 3:03 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

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On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:04:45 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:


I hear being a general under Obama is a short term career job.

so was being a general under truman

and remember general shinseki, under bush?


Guess he might as well polish up the fishing rods and go fishing.

notice he never complains about the rich white frat boy who
screwed
this whole thing up?


Bush fired or "retired" many generals for speaking out. I think
Obama should not fire him unless he believes that McCrystall can no
longer do the job he was assigned to do.


Obama's ego will cause McCrystal to be fired.


Your ego needs to be self-inflated to compensate for your obvious
lack of intelligence.


Was he fired or not, Dippy?


He was fires for insubordination, as opposed to what Bush did... fire
people for stating facts, Dufus.

He resigned, probably was put to him, resign with full pension or I
will fire you for my ego and cause you pension grief.

He chose wisely and resigned.

--
The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

He didn't have a choice. He was told to resign. He follows orders.
You're an idiot.

Guess Obama is now also going to have to fire a judge saying even the
Obama must follow due process.

Obama is an arrogant big mouth ass hole.

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The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

Whoo... something crawled up your butt... work it out with a pencil.

Generals going fishing
 

"Canuck57" wrote in message
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On 23/06/2010 7:56 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 19:37:36 -0600,
wrote:

Fired. Ok, in technical point he resigned. Gets him a bigger pension.
Good move if you think Obama is a jack ass.


except mcchrystal was the author of the current plan for afghanistan

you saying he thinks obama's an ass for accepting his plan?

you really are stupid, aren't you?

My guess is just seeing how fast Obama knee jerks, bet he had it with the
presidents mixed messages and confusion.

Obama is just the kind of guy to backstab. Give you an order, get the
#%*% and I don't care what it takes. Then when you do he tries to burn
you for following orders.

Obama is going to go for a judge next. Could be interesting as I figure
Obama's ego and demenor is like Chavez, and will be interesting to see if
the checks and balances of the US judicial system still have meaning.

Because even BP deserves a trial. Just because the president brings rope
does not mean there should be a hanging without due process. We also saw
how GM bond holders were in a precident setting way, screwed out of their
court hearing in GMs default.

Obama clearly shows he thinks law is a hinderance to his ego.

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The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

You are almost too dumb for words...