On 10/06/2010 8:59 AM, YukonBound wrote:


"Canuck57" wrote in message
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On 09/06/2010 4:26 PM, YukonBound wrote:
Unbelievable. Time for Canadians to follow our 'merican cousins and
toss the Conservatives out for something more progressive.
Our current clowns are dumping all our lighthouses to save money, but
can blow over $1 billion on hosting the G8 and the G20 summits.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nova-scotia...s-surplus.html


In reality, they are not needed any more as WW II ended a long time
ago. If you are a cruzing in these ares without a modern GPS and no
maps, your nuts. You could also try to fly with feathers glued on and
jump off a cliff.

I am no lover of Canadian politicians, Harpo is in my riding and I
don't vote for that liar fool and more than the Liberal/NDP tax-me
more crowd of idiots. At least once and awhile Harpo does something,
even so pityfully small as this, does it right. Cut some of the
deadwood from bloated up you ass government.


We..... Mr landlubber...did you see the CBC item where part of that $1
billion + also went to carve a fake lighthouse out of a tree stump...
all on the eve of dumping all the country's lighthouses.......even the
Sambro lighthouse off Halifax, which is the longest operating one in
North America.
Those Conservatives all all about 'fakes' and short on genuine.

Nothing to stop you from buying one. Then run it yourself. Oh, it is
ok as long as someone else pays for it... I hear ya. Close them down.

--
Liberalism - a disease of envy, greed, entitlement and KAOS.

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On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:59:56 -0300, "YukonBound"
wrote:



"Canuck57" wrote in message
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On 09/06/2010 4:26 PM, YukonBound wrote:
Unbelievable. Time for Canadians to follow our 'merican cousins and
toss the Conservatives out for something more progressive.
Our current clowns are dumping all our lighthouses to save money, but
can blow over $1 billion on hosting the G8 and the G20 summits.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nova-scotia...s-surplus.html

In reality, they are not needed any more as WW II ended a long time ago.
If you are a cruzing in these ares without a modern GPS and no maps, your
nuts. You could also try to fly with feathers glued on and jump off a
cliff.

I am no lover of Canadian politicians, Harpo is in my riding and I don't
vote for that liar fool and more than the Liberal/NDP tax-me more crowd of
idiots. At least once and awhile Harpo does something, even so pityfully
small as this, does it right. Cut some of the deadwood from bloated up
you ass government.


We..... Mr landlubber...did you see the CBC item where part of that $1
billion + also went to carve a fake lighthouse out of a tree stump... all on
the eve of dumping all the country's lighthouses.......even the Sambro
lighthouse off Halifax, which is the longest operating one in North America.
Those Conservatives all all about 'fakes' and short on genuine.


In a time when the government is dropping LORAN because it is
obsolete, I can see why they want to rid themselves of the
lighthouses.
My suggestion is to find some historic preservation groups who will
take over these structures and maintain them in their original state..
If it is left to the people who's only interest is maintaining a nav
aid, it will probably lose it's historic accuracy anyway. The tendency
would be toward a steel tower with a solar powered light on top or a
buoy, if they saw the light as necessary at all.
Governments are going broke and people still are not willing to have
their taxes raised. They have to make cuts somewhere.

Cut "entitlements." It is not the federal governments jobs to fund your
retirement nor is it their job to provide you with an unemployement
check.

"BAR" wrote in message
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On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:59:56 -0300, "YukonBound"
wrote:



"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
On 09/06/2010 4:26 PM, YukonBound wrote:
Unbelievable. Time for Canadians to follow our 'merican cousins and
toss the Conservatives out for something more progressive.
Our current clowns are dumping all our lighthouses to save money, but
can blow over $1 billion on hosting the G8 and the G20 summits.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nova-scotia...s-surplus.html

In reality, they are not needed any more as WW II ended a long time
ago.
If you are a cruzing in these ares without a modern GPS and no maps,
your
nuts. You could also try to fly with feathers glued on and jump off a
cliff.

I am no lover of Canadian politicians, Harpo is in my riding and I
don't
vote for that liar fool and more than the Liberal/NDP tax-me more
crowd of
idiots. At least once and awhile Harpo does something, even so
pityfully
small as this, does it right. Cut some of the deadwood from bloated
up
you ass government.


We..... Mr landlubber...did you see the CBC item where part of that $1
billion + also went to carve a fake lighthouse out of a tree stump...
all on
the eve of dumping all the country's lighthouses.......even the Sambro
lighthouse off Halifax, which is the longest operating one in North
America.
Those Conservatives all all about 'fakes' and short on genuine.


In a time when the government is dropping LORAN because it is
obsolete, I can see why they want to rid themselves of the
lighthouses.
My suggestion is to find some historic preservation groups who will
take over these structures and maintain them in their original state..
If it is left to the people who's only interest is maintaining a nav
aid, it will probably lose it's historic accuracy anyway. The tendency
would be toward a steel tower with a solar powered light on top or a
buoy, if they saw the light as necessary at all.
Governments are going broke and people still are not willing to have
their taxes raised. They have to make cuts somewhere.

Cut "entitlements." It is not the federal governments jobs to fund your
retirement nor is it their job to provide you with an unemployement
check.

Don't know about south of the border, but up here the clowns gave themselves
a gold plated retirement plan. They just have to put in 6 years as an
elected politician and they get a better pension than half the citizens of
Canada do.

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says...

"BAR" wrote in message
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On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:59:56 -0300, "YukonBound"
wrote:



"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
On 09/06/2010 4:26 PM, YukonBound wrote:
Unbelievable. Time for Canadians to follow our 'merican cousins and
toss the Conservatives out for something more progressive.
Our current clowns are dumping all our lighthouses to save money, but
can blow over $1 billion on hosting the G8 and the G20 summits.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nova-scotia...s-surplus.html

In reality, they are not needed any more as WW II ended a long time
ago.
If you are a cruzing in these ares without a modern GPS and no maps,
your
nuts. You could also try to fly with feathers glued on and jump off a
cliff.

I am no lover of Canadian politicians, Harpo is in my riding and I
don't
vote for that liar fool and more than the Liberal/NDP tax-me more
crowd of
idiots. At least once and awhile Harpo does something, even so
pityfully
small as this, does it right. Cut some of the deadwood from bloated
up
you ass government.


We..... Mr landlubber...did you see the CBC item where part of that $1
billion + also went to carve a fake lighthouse out of a tree stump...
all on
the eve of dumping all the country's lighthouses.......even the Sambro
lighthouse off Halifax, which is the longest operating one in North
America.
Those Conservatives all all about 'fakes' and short on genuine.


In a time when the government is dropping LORAN because it is
obsolete, I can see why they want to rid themselves of the
lighthouses.
My suggestion is to find some historic preservation groups who will
take over these structures and maintain them in their original state..
If it is left to the people who's only interest is maintaining a nav
aid, it will probably lose it's historic accuracy anyway. The tendency
would be toward a steel tower with a solar powered light on top or a
buoy, if they saw the light as necessary at all.
Governments are going broke and people still are not willing to have
their taxes raised. They have to make cuts somewhere.

Cut "entitlements." It is not the federal governments jobs to fund your
retirement nor is it their job to provide you with an unemployement
check.

Don't know about south of the border, but up here the clowns gave themselves
a gold plated retirement plan. They just have to put in 6 years as an
elected politician and they get a better pension than half the citizens of
Canada do.

That's nothing compared to the pensions my union gives out. Good thing
they had me to go to the CEO's of the big three auto makers and fight
for that.

"YukonBound" wrote in message
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"BAR" wrote in message
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On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:59:56 -0300, "YukonBound"
wrote:



"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
On 09/06/2010 4:26 PM, YukonBound wrote:
Unbelievable. Time for Canadians to follow our 'merican cousins and
toss the Conservatives out for something more progressive.
Our current clowns are dumping all our lighthouses to save money,
but
can blow over $1 billion on hosting the G8 and the G20 summits.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nova-scotia...s-surplus.html

In reality, they are not needed any more as WW II ended a long time
ago.
If you are a cruzing in these ares without a modern GPS and no maps,
your
nuts. You could also try to fly with feathers glued on and jump off
a
cliff.

I am no lover of Canadian politicians, Harpo is in my riding and I
don't
vote for that liar fool and more than the Liberal/NDP tax-me more
crowd of
idiots. At least once and awhile Harpo does something, even so
pityfully
small as this, does it right. Cut some of the deadwood from bloated
up
you ass government.


We..... Mr landlubber...did you see the CBC item where part of that $1
billion + also went to carve a fake lighthouse out of a tree stump...
all on
the eve of dumping all the country's lighthouses.......even the Sambro
lighthouse off Halifax, which is the longest operating one in North
America.
Those Conservatives all all about 'fakes' and short on genuine.


In a time when the government is dropping LORAN because it is
obsolete, I can see why they want to rid themselves of the
lighthouses.
My suggestion is to find some historic preservation groups who will
take over these structures and maintain them in their original state..
If it is left to the people who's only interest is maintaining a nav
aid, it will probably lose it's historic accuracy anyway. The tendency
would be toward a steel tower with a solar powered light on top or a
buoy, if they saw the light as necessary at all.
Governments are going broke and people still are not willing to have
their taxes raised. They have to make cuts somewhere.

Cut "entitlements." It is not the federal governments jobs to fund your
retirement nor is it their job to provide you with an unemployement
check.

Don't know about south of the border, but up here the clowns gave
themselves a gold plated retirement plan. They just have to put in 6
years as an elected politician and they get a better pension than half the
citizens of Canada do.
The real problem with Canada is the country is full of Canadians.

--
The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name.

On 11/06/2010 7:20 AM, YukonBound wrote:


"BAR" wrote in message
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In article ,
says...

On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:59:56 -0300, "YukonBound"
wrote:



"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
On 09/06/2010 4:26 PM, YukonBound wrote:
Unbelievable. Time for Canadians to follow our 'merican cousins and
toss the Conservatives out for something more progressive.
Our current clowns are dumping all our lighthouses to save money,
but
can blow over $1 billion on hosting the G8 and the G20 summits.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nova-scotia...s-surplus.html


In reality, they are not needed any more as WW II ended a long
time ago.
If you are a cruzing in these ares without a modern GPS and no
maps, your
nuts. You could also try to fly with feathers glued on and jump off a
cliff.

I am no lover of Canadian politicians, Harpo is in my riding and I
don't
vote for that liar fool and more than the Liberal/NDP tax-me more
crowd of
idiots. At least once and awhile Harpo does something, even so
pityfully
small as this, does it right. Cut some of the deadwood from
bloated up
you ass government.


We..... Mr landlubber...did you see the CBC item where part of that $1
billion + also went to carve a fake lighthouse out of a tree
stump... all on
the eve of dumping all the country's lighthouses.......even the Sambro
lighthouse off Halifax, which is the longest operating one in North
America.
Those Conservatives all all about 'fakes' and short on genuine.


In a time when the government is dropping LORAN because it is
obsolete, I can see why they want to rid themselves of the
lighthouses.
My suggestion is to find some historic preservation groups who will
take over these structures and maintain them in their original state..
If it is left to the people who's only interest is maintaining a nav
aid, it will probably lose it's historic accuracy anyway. The tendency
would be toward a steel tower with a solar powered light on top or a
buoy, if they saw the light as necessary at all.
Governments are going broke and people still are not willing to have
their taxes raised. They have to make cuts somewhere.

Cut "entitlements." It is not the federal governments jobs to fund your
retirement nor is it their job to provide you with an unemployement
check.

Don't know about south of the border, but up here the clowns gave
themselves a gold plated retirement plan. They just have to put in 6
years as an elected politician and they get a better pension than half
the citizens of Canada do.

1/2? Hell, the MPs have the best paln in Canada. I know of no better
terms than they get.

--
Liberalism - a disease of envy, greed, entitlement and KAOS.

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On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 09:12:26 -0400, BAR wrote:

Cut "entitlements."

Helen Thomas wouldn't even have the nerve to say that. ;-)

I feel sorry for her. She could have left the scene as a class act.
Instead...

Funny how everyone slams "entitlements" right up until it affects their
social security, medicare, police/fire/infrastructure in their neighborhood,
EMT availability, library access, etc. Then, it's don't touch. If people
don't want entitlements, then they should vote against them and vote out any
politician that promotes funding them. So far, that hasn't happened, and
there doesn't appear to be any strong movement to do so.

On 11/06/2010 11:56 AM, nom=de=plume wrote:

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On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 09:12:26 -0400, BAR wrote:

Cut "entitlements."

Helen Thomas wouldn't even have the nerve to say that. ;-)

I feel sorry for her. She could have left the scene as a class act.
Instead...

Funny how everyone slams "entitlements" right up until it affects their
social security, medicare, police/fire/infrastructure in their
neighborhood, EMT availability, library access, etc. Then, it's don't
touch. If people don't want entitlements, then they should vote against
them and vote out any politician that promotes funding them. So far,
that hasn't happened, and there doesn't appear to be any strong movement
to do so.

Actually, what the produicers shoudl do, and many are is to move.

Why live in a country where the 2/3rds not paying for it can outvote the
1/3 that does?

To me, it feels like taxation without representation when the begars,
liberal losers and pocket pickers out vote the tax paying worker. Also
known as slavery.

--
Liberalism - a disease of envy, greed, entitlement and KAOS.

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On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 10:56:15 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Funny how everyone slams "entitlements" right up until it affects their
social security, medicare, police/fire/infrastructure in their
neighborhood,
EMT availability, library access, etc. Then, it's don't touch. If people
don't want entitlements, then they should vote against them and vote out
any
politician that promotes funding them. So far, that hasn't happened, and
there doesn't appear to be any strong movement to do so.


We can look at Greece to get an idea about what can happen to
"entitlements" when they are unrealistic.
My Alexander Tyler quote still seems right

"A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as
a permanent form of government."

Sorry, but I disagree with Tyler. Firstly, democracy by definition isn't a
fixed object. It's an idea and it has endured in one form or another for
several 1000 years. Ancient Greece is a great example. That particular
culture failed, but not because of democracy. Our culture may fail, but not
because of democracy.


"A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters
discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public
treasury."

"From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates who
promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result
that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy,
which is always followed by a dictatorship."

"The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the
beginning of history, has been about 200 years"

"During those 200 years, those nations always progressed through the
following sequence:

1. from bondage to spiritual faith;

2. from spiritual faith to great courage;

3. from courage to liberty;

4. from liberty to abundance;

5. from abundance to complacency;

6. from complacency to apathy;

7. from apathy to dependence;

8. from dependence back into bondage"


We are at about #6 right now. BP would say we were closer to #8

Which entitlements don't you think are appropriate? I'm sure there are lots
of example of things that make no sense, but there are many more that make
perfect sense and are appropriate and necessary. BP isn't a democracy. It's
a for-profit corporation. It (and similar) need to be regulated, since
corporations don't give a fig about democracy or the public good. They're
only concerned with the corporate good. Capitalism, in its purest form, is
unworkable and must be tempered with social consciousness.