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On 6/9/2010 12:22 AM, nom=de=plume wrote:

"Jack" wrote in message
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On Jun 8, 6:48 pm, jps wrote:
On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 15:18:18 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch





wrote:
On Jun 8, 6:05 pm, Jeddadiah Smith wrote:
On 6/8/2010 3:55 PM, jps wrote:

You sound like an asshole.

I am, brother.

I do see a substantial bit of hypocrisy here from someone who is a
liberal but somehow has enough to spend $100K on a sailboat while
having a luxury car and two mortgages.Seems that somebody is making
too much money according to Obama. Most attorneys are dems because
the dems never favor tort reform. Basically attorneys are taking
money out of the pockets of the poor and giving it to the rich.

Having gotten that rant out of my system I will not discuss it more
but will stick to discussing the sailboat. Big mono-hulls are a poor
investment but a catamaran depreciates slower. You will also have
more places to keep her in shallow water. I believe that integrated
over time that a catamaran is safer than a mono because it allows you
to get into shallow water thru questionable inlets or into shallow
anchorages that are well protected during storms.

It's so damned funny to watch you "conservatives" squirm when you find
out a liberal can be well founded and still speak on behalf of those
who haven't a voice.

We don't bitch about paying our fair share. There's still plenty left
over to live, sometimes even comfortably.

Limousine liberals don't bitch about paying their fair share... they
just don't pay it, period. The rest of the liberal voting base has
their hand out, as they don't pay *any* taxes. They wait on the limo
libs to give them a hand-out paid for by, of course, the working
class.

It's no secret.

Well, which one am I? I think you've got some reality issues. I suppose
you're going to claim that rightwing nuts want to pay for their fair share?

Take your pick. It's all part of OUR problem.

sailboat buying strategy
 

On Jun 9, 9:04*am, Jeddadiah Smith wrote:
On 6/9/2010 12:29 AM, nom=de=plume wrote:





"Tim" wrote in message
....
NOW, about boats. It is well known among sailors that the bigger the
boat, the less it is sailed. Big boats tend to be marina queens.

There's a local guy around here that has loads of dough that he's
gained by rather undisclosed means that has an 85' "something" sitting
docked at Ky. Lake. Every fall he fires it up and ICW's his way to
Florida where it sits all winter and he flies back. then in the
spring, he fires it back up and moves it back to Kentucky lake and int
he fall he repeats the process.

And that's about it.

So, Tim. Given that I started a thread about boats and it was polluted
by right-wing bs, I don't see you having much to say about how these two
bozos are off topic. Yet, when someone on the left makes a political
statement, you get bent out of shape. Why is that?

It might just be something else besides your politics. The fact that you
are a snotty bitch might be part of it. And there is the asshole
characteristic, and etc. etc. etc.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You guys still think Harrys' sister is buying a sailboat? HA! Some
folks never learn. She is full of ****, just like her tenant in the
basement...

sailboat buying strategy
 

Tim wrote:
NOW, about boats. It is well known among sailors that the bigger the
boat, the less it is sailed. Big boats tend to be marina queens.


There's a local guy around here that has loads of dough that he's
gained by rather undisclosed means that has an 85' "something" sitting
docked at Ky. Lake. Every fall he fires it up and ICW's his way to
Florida where it sits all winter and he flies back. then in the
spring, he fires it back up and moves it back to Kentucky lake and int
he fall he repeats the process.

And that's about it.

Too bad he doesn't post here.
Not sure what your point is.
If you take out Wayne, what you said he does is about 20 times the total
boating of all the so-called "boaters" posting here.
Was that your point?

Jim - About to give up on this trash heap. Almost every post here gets
deleted unread.

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On Jun 9, 10:23*am, Jim wrote:
Tim wrote:
NOW, about boats. *It is well known among sailors that the bigger the
boat, the less it is sailed. *Big boats tend to be marina queens.

There's a local guy around here that has loads of dough that he's
gained by rather undisclosed means that has an 85' "something" sitting
docked at Ky. Lake. Every fall he fires it up and ICW's his way to
Florida where it sits all winter and he flies back. then in the
spring, he fires it back up and moves it back to Kentucky lake and int
he fall he repeats the process.

And that's about it.

Too bad he doesn't post here.
Not sure what your point is.
If you take out Wayne, what you said he does is about 20 times the total
boating of all the so-called "boaters" posting here.
Was that your point?

Jim - About to give up on this trash heap. *Almost every post here gets
deleted unread.

My point was really nothing but an exampelary comment concerning the
"bigger" boats and how they seem to be "marina queens" as far as what
I was saying about this guys luxury liner being a dock queen.


It is.

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On Jun 9, 10:23*am, Jim wrote:
Tim wrote:
NOW, about boats. *It is well known among sailors that the bigger the
boat, the less it is sailed. *Big boats tend to be marina queens.

There's a local guy around here that has loads of dough that he's
gained by rather undisclosed means that has an 85' "something" sitting
docked at Ky. Lake. Every fall he fires it up and ICW's his way to
Florida where it sits all winter and he flies back. then in the
spring, he fires it back up and moves it back to Kentucky lake and int
he fall he repeats the process.

And that's about it.

Too bad he doesn't post here.
Not sure what your point is.
If you take out Wayne, what you said he does is about 20 times the total
boating of all the so-called "boaters" posting here.
Was that your point?

Jim - About to give up on this trash heap. *Almost every post here gets
deleted unread.

Wayn is a class Seaman, who enjoys his craft and lives on it at least
most of the time and takes it on many nautical mile excursions. He
uses his boat. That's not what I was talking about.


Further, I'd say about a million or multi million dollar craft just
sitting and not being used...if it's some type of tax hedge/write
off, or just plain pride of life syndrome.

I'd think that the money would be better used elsewhere. I'm in no
financial set up[ to waste much of anything let alone tie up anual
dock and maintenance fees that are worth more than a good yearly
working wage.

sailboat buying strategy
 

"Le Moose" wrote in message
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On 6/9/2010 12:22 AM, nom=de=plume wrote:

"Jack" wrote in message
...
On Jun 8, 6:48 pm, jps wrote:
On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 15:18:18 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch





wrote:
On Jun 8, 6:05 pm, Jeddadiah Smith wrote:
On 6/8/2010 3:55 PM, jps wrote:

You sound like an asshole.

I am, brother.

I do see a substantial bit of hypocrisy here from someone who is a
liberal but somehow has enough to spend $100K on a sailboat while
having a luxury car and two mortgages.Seems that somebody is making
too much money according to Obama. Most attorneys are dems because
the dems never favor tort reform. Basically attorneys are taking
money out of the pockets of the poor and giving it to the rich.

Having gotten that rant out of my system I will not discuss it more
but will stick to discussing the sailboat. Big mono-hulls are a poor
investment but a catamaran depreciates slower. You will also have
more places to keep her in shallow water. I believe that integrated
over time that a catamaran is safer than a mono because it allows you
to get into shallow water thru questionable inlets or into shallow
anchorages that are well protected during storms.

It's so damned funny to watch you "conservatives" squirm when you find
out a liberal can be well founded and still speak on behalf of those
who haven't a voice.

We don't bitch about paying our fair share. There's still plenty left
over to live, sometimes even comfortably.

Limousine liberals don't bitch about paying their fair share... they
just don't pay it, period. The rest of the liberal voting base has
their hand out, as they don't pay *any* taxes. They wait on the limo
libs to give them a hand-out paid for by, of course, the working
class.

It's no secret.

Well, which one am I? I think you've got some reality issues. I suppose
you're going to claim that rightwing nuts want to pay for their fair
share?

Take your pick. It's all part of OUR problem.

Poor little man. You have a problem. Bummer for you!

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"mmc" wrote in message
g.com...

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
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On Jun 8, 6:05 pm, Jeddadiah Smith wrote:
On 6/8/2010 3:55 PM, jps wrote:

You sound like an asshole.

I am, brother.

I do see a substantial bit of hypocrisy here from someone who is a
liberal but somehow has enough to spend $100K on a sailboat while
having a luxury car and two mortgages.Seems that somebody is making
too much money according to Obama. Most attorneys are dems because
the dems never favor tort reform. Basically attorneys are taking
money out of the pockets of the poor and giving it to the rich.

--------
Following this new and twisted logic, with your trailer house in the
woods, hate of air-conditioning and old cheap boats, shouldn't you be a
liberal?


Another idiot... can't even read, too stupid to try. Wow.

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"Le Moose" wrote in message
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On 6/9/2010 12:25 AM, nom=de=plume wrote:

"Canuck57" wrote in message
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On 08/06/2010 12:08 PM, Jeddadiah Smith wrote:
On 6/8/2010 1:45 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
After much discussion by the four of us, we've concluded that we're
pretty much there, as far as being able to afford something in the
$300K
range. The basic philosophy we're using (and have used individually
and
collectively for most big purchases) has been to save for twice the
expected cost. This has the effect of allowing us some wiggle room
with
purchase prices in general, not feeling like we're cash broke after a
major purchase (e.g., with our two mortgages, we can afford twice the
current monthly payment), it gives us the ability to incur after-sale
expenses (oh, yeah, I guess a sailboat does need a mast), and extends
the time before one or more of us needs to seriously get back to work.
(Two of us will be standing down from active work for the better
part of
1-2 years, the other two will head back into the grinder in less than
a
year.)

I'd be interested to hear what those who've made major purchases, such
as for a boat, have done (or not done) along these lines. Did you
pretty
much go all in or did you do something similar?


Pay off your debts before you incur more debt in the form of a boat.

Just curious. How do you figure your mortgages afford you to double up
on boat payments.
If you want my opinion, the four of you sound like a bunch of lazy
morons.

Shush. When the mortgage comes up at 17% they will get wiped out on
cash flow. Liberal debtors, let them run off the cliff.

But for plume-de-fumer, I suspect it is pulling our legs and forget to
take the butt plug out. Think full of it.

--
Liberalism - a disease of envy, greed, entitlement and KAOS.

You really have a foul mouth, besides being pretty stupid. I doubt any
woman would put up with you for more than 10 minutes unless you pay for
it.

I know you have financial problems, due to you mismanaging your money,
but there are things called fixed rate mortgages, just so you know.

If the rates go to 17%, I'll bet the bank will call your loan. Check your
mortgage. There is a provision for it. I hope you NEVER made a late
payment.

I'll bet you're too stupid to understand how a contract works. Oh wait, I
get it. You've never been able to get a mortgage...

sailboat buying strategy
 

"Jeddadiah Smith" wrote in message
...
On 6/9/2010 12:29 AM, nom=de=plume wrote:

"Tim" wrote in message
...
NOW, about boats. It is well known among sailors that the bigger the
boat, the less it is sailed. Big boats tend to be marina queens.


There's a local guy around here that has loads of dough that he's
gained by rather undisclosed means that has an 85' "something" sitting
docked at Ky. Lake. Every fall he fires it up and ICW's his way to
Florida where it sits all winter and he flies back. then in the
spring, he fires it back up and moves it back to Kentucky lake and int
he fall he repeats the process.

And that's about it.

So, Tim. Given that I started a thread about boats and it was polluted
by right-wing bs, I don't see you having much to say about how these two
bozos are off topic. Yet, when someone on the left makes a political
statement, you get bent out of shape. Why is that?


It might just be something else besides your politics. The fact that you
are a snotty bitch might be part of it. And there is the asshole
characteristic, and etc. etc. etc.

Screw you. You're a foul-mouthed misanthrope with no life.

sailboat buying strategy
 

"JustWaitAFrekinMinute!" wrote in message
...
On Jun 9, 9:04 am, Jeddadiah Smith wrote:
On 6/9/2010 12:29 AM, nom=de=plume wrote:





"Tim" wrote in message
...
NOW, about boats. It is well known among sailors that the bigger the
boat, the less it is sailed. Big boats tend to be marina queens.

There's a local guy around here that has loads of dough that he's
gained by rather undisclosed means that has an 85' "something" sitting
docked at Ky. Lake. Every fall he fires it up and ICW's his way to
Florida where it sits all winter and he flies back. then in the
spring, he fires it back up and moves it back to Kentucky lake and int
he fall he repeats the process.

And that's about it.

So, Tim. Given that I started a thread about boats and it was polluted
by right-wing bs, I don't see you having much to say about how these
two
bozos are off topic. Yet, when someone on the left makes a political
statement, you get bent out of shape. Why is that?

It might just be something else besides your politics. The fact that you
are a snotty bitch might be part of it. And there is the asshole
characteristic, and etc. etc. etc.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You guys still think Harrys' sister is buying a sailboat? HA! Some
folks never learn. She is full of ****, just like her tenant in the
basement...


You still claim to think? HA!