On 23/04/2010 6:09 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 17:06:32 -0600,
wrote:

On 23/04/2010 4:16 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 07:42:33 -0600,
wrote:


Now if you lose 5% or 7% purchasing power over a working career, I doubt
anyone would argue that it would buy a boat... right?

After all given Democat/Obama debt-spending is at record levels, bailing
out the inept, lazy, corrupt comes at a cost right?

actually they're protecting jobs. to the right, that's
unforgiveable...protecting the middle class. we should only protect
the rich

Only if you are in denialism.

gee. all i have is the evidence on my side. you have rush limballs.

wonder which shows the real picture

Corrupt auto jobs were lost a long time
ago. While GM was getting bailouts for it's inept business model, other
companies were laying off as GM was producing subsidized vehicles. In
2009 GM recieved over $60,000 per vehicle it made to stay in business.

what the hell does this have to do with unemployment? the right
winger bitcher can't even stay on point.


You complain about "rich". Well how come Obama hasn't cahrged on single
executive, accountant or anyone with the GM fraud?

ROFLMAO!!! do you REALLY thiknk the rich are gonna let ANYONE pass
laws that pierce the corporate veil???

HAHAHAHAHAH!!!

Even though a court
has rules GM mistated financials like Enron and SOX laws exist, Obama
isn't charging anyone.

GM is peanuts compared to what BoA,goldman sachs, lehman, etc. did to
the economy. they brought down the banking system. but they're rich
white guys so your view is they're gods.


and the biggest spender in history was george bush

Right about now that shifts to Obama.

great! he's doing the right thing.

Certainly by the end of the year
Obama will have racked more debt that Bush. In fact, by the end of 2010
Obama will hold the two top debtor years in American history, 2009 and 2010.

great! he's doing the right thing. bush spent when there was no reason
to spend. the right insisted on tax cuts for the rich to bankroll a
war that killed 4400 US troops.

obama's spending to protect jobs and th emiddle class

i can see why you're ****ed. the darkie president is doing what the
rich white boy couldnt'


Watch, as soon as November is over, or perhaps sooner, VAT is comming to
a till near you. Unless of course you lefties wake up and smell the
coffee, which is unlikely.

You Obama supporters didn't think Obamanation was free did you?

more bitching. when the right wing comes up with a plan, let us know

they gave away middle class incomes to the rich

THEN they complain when the middle class protects itself

canuch is a racist

Think what you want. I turned on Bsh when he started the bailout
corruption. I actually had hopes that Obama would stop it. But looks
like Obama is just a bull****er.

no you didn't. you're unable to fathom the CAUSE of the situation
we're in. you think obama's been presdient for 9 years. so you blame
it ALL on him instead of your lord god, the rich white boy

Just learn what VAT means. It is coming.

--
Socialism and statism are great as long as someone else pays for it.

On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 18:58:07 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 23/04/2010 6:09 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 17:06:32 -0600,
wrote:
Think what you want. I turned on Bsh when he started the bailout
corruption. I actually had hopes that Obama would stop it. But looks
like Obama is just a bull****er.

no you didn't. you're unable to fathom the CAUSE of the situation
we're in. you think obama's been presdient for 9 years. so you blame
it ALL on him instead of your lord god, the rich white boy

Just learn what VAT means. It is coming.

i hope so. it works in europe. we can learn something

you, however, can't

On 23/04/2010 7:17 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 18:58:07 -0600,
wrote:

On 23/04/2010 6:09 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 17:06:32 -0600,
wrote:
Think what you want. I turned on Bsh when he started the bailout
corruption. I actually had hopes that Obama would stop it. But looks
like Obama is just a bull****er.

no you didn't. you're unable to fathom the CAUSE of the situation
we're in. you think obama's been presdient for 9 years. so you blame
it ALL on him instead of your lord god, the rich white boy

Just learn what VAT means. It is coming.

i hope so. it works in europe. we can learn something

you, however, can't

Ever wonder why so very few Europeans, Canadians and UK people own boats?

You are about to find out. Because lets for arguments sake say it is a
even 5%. I suspect they will do 6 or 7, but say 5%.

Your purchasing power just went down 5%. Takes $1.05 to buy $1.00 of stuff.

So 1/20th of your income is gone from your use. Litterally a first
class boat in a average working career. Even auto takes a hit, as you
have 5% less to spend on the auto. In the end, 5% less autos will be sold.

And your great grandchildren not yet born will curse your debt mongering
liberal ass all to hell.

And at 5%, it still will not balance Obama's/Congress overspending.
--
Socialism and statism are great as long as someone else pays for it.

On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 20:24:00 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 23/04/2010 7:17 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 18:58:07 -0600,
wrote:

i hope so. it works in europe. we can learn something

you, however, can't

Ever wonder why so very few Europeans, Canadians and UK people own boats?

You are about to find out. Because lets for arguments sake say it is a
even 5%. I suspect they will do 6 or 7, but say 5%.

ever wonder why americans work 200 hours more than any of them? why we
dont have vacation? why we didn't have healthcare?


Your purchasing power just went down 5%. Takes $1.05 to buy $1.00 of stuff.

So 1/20th of your income is gone from your use. Litterally a first
class boat in a average working career. Even auto takes a hit, as you
have 5% less to spend on the auto. In the end, 5% less autos will be sold.

gee. my company gave no raises last year. probably none this year. the
rich did fine.


And your great grandchildren not yet born will curse your debt mongering
liberal ass all to hell.

and how would they feel if they were homeless and in the streets like
YOU advocate?

On 24/04/2010 4:45 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 20:24:00 -0600,
wrote:

On 23/04/2010 7:17 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 18:58:07 -0600,
wrote:

i hope so. it works in europe. we can learn something

you, however, can't

Ever wonder why so very few Europeans, Canadians and UK people own boats?

You are about to find out. Because lets for arguments sake say it is a
even 5%. I suspect they will do 6 or 7, but say 5%.

ever wonder why americans work 200 hours more than any of them? why we
dont have vacation? why we didn't have healthcare?

Funny. When I was in the UK I said lets go London for the weekend (from
Aberdeen) and the parents of the lady I was a courting on this dropped
their jaws. That was a major vacation to them and a weekend jaunt for me.

Depends on the life you want, at least in America you have a choice.
They don't.

Yes, I lived there too for awhile. I worked side by side with their
people. Did Stavanger Norway too. What an eye opener.

Your purchasing power just went down 5%. Takes $1.05 to buy $1.00 of stuff.

So 1/20th of your income is gone from your use. Litterally a first
class boat in a average working career. Even auto takes a hit, as you
have 5% less to spend on the auto. In the end, 5% less autos will be sold.

gee. my company gave no raises last year. probably none this year. the
rich did fine.

Will not be any for years to come, Obama is going to raise their taxes
and it will indirectly come from your wages. Tax the company more and
they will pay less. It is all interdependant. Want higher wages there
are only two ways. Get a skill that has elasticity in wages or get a
good economy that needs people. All people thrive best when
unemployment is so low employers have to treat employees right.

And your great grandchildren not yet born will curse your debt mongering
liberal ass all to hell.

and how would they feel if they were homeless and in the streets like
YOU advocate?

They might be, but hopefully some old values of depending on ones self
and fiscal conservatism will preval to prevent that.


--
Socialism and statism are great as long as someone else pays for it.

On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 08:13:14 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 24/04/2010 4:45 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 20:24:00 -0600,
wrote:


ever wonder why americans work 200 hours more than any of them? why we
dont have vacation? why we didn't have healthcare?

Funny. When I was in the UK I said lets go London for the weekend (from
Aberdeen) and the parents of the lady I was a courting on this dropped
their jaws. That was a major vacation to them and a weekend jaunt for me.

he's so cute. everything is about him. he leads a charmed life. la la
la.

the fact 100,000,000 middle class wage earners got screwed?

he simply doesn't care. it didnt affect him. he's loaded. so throw the
*******s and their kids in the street...

Depends on the life you want, at least in America you have a choice.

well no. i want to take august off.

know any US companies that'll let me do that?

more right wing bull****


gee. my company gave no raises last year. probably none this year. the
rich did fine.

Will not be any for years to come, Obama is going to raise their taxes
and it will indirectly come from your wages.

proof?

well. none.

he IS gonna raise taxes on the rich. but guess who made the most money
in the last 10 year, while the middle class got NO raises at all?

but to him? he'll lie about obama. obama's a darkie, you see. and it's
immoral for a darkie to have power.

he LOVES the rich frat boy bush. bush stole like a thief. he killed
4400 US soldiers and poured 1 trillion into a wasted war

but he is RICH. and he's WHITE. so he's not the problem


Tax the company more and
they will pay less. It is all interdependant. Want higher wages there
are only two ways. Get a skill that has elasticity in wages or get a
good economy that needs people. All people thrive best when
unemployment is so low employers have to treat employees right.

gee. i guess you believe in buy low and sell high, too, huh?

what do you suggest? a nation of brain surgeons?

any MORE right wing cliche bull**** you want to spout, or have you
shot your load?


And your great grandchildren not yet born will curse your debt mongering
liberal ass all to hell.

and how would they feel if they were homeless and in the streets like
YOU advocate?

They might be, but hopefully some old values of depending on ones self
and fiscal conservatism will preval to prevent that.

yeah, the middle class tried that. gave the rich 30 years of
unregulated capitalism

how'd that work out?

On 24/04/2010 8:34 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 08:13:14 -0600,
wrote:

On 24/04/2010 4:45 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 20:24:00 -0600,
wrote:


ever wonder why americans work 200 hours more than any of them? why we
dont have vacation? why we didn't have healthcare?

Funny. When I was in the UK I said lets go London for the weekend (from
Aberdeen) and the parents of the lady I was a courting on this dropped
their jaws. That was a major vacation to them and a weekend jaunt for me.

he's so cute. everything is about him. he leads a charmed life. la la
la.

the fact 100,000,000 middle class wage earners got screwed?

Ya so? And many of the dumb****s still will vote Obama is my mama.

Isn't a problem I can fix.

he simply doesn't care. it didnt affect him. he's loaded. so throw the
*******s and their kids in the street...

Nope, would rather see GM and the bankers take their losses, and more
money in the middle class pocket books. This way they can spend and my
ibusiness investments prosper. I always seek win-win as win-loose is
for losers.

Depends on the life you want, at least in America you have a choice.

well no. i want to take august off.

Then take it off.

know any US companies that'll let me do that?

Depends, learn some negotiating skills.

more right wing bull****

At least life is simple for you. LMAO.

gee. my company gave no raises last year. probably none this year. the
rich did fine.

Will not be any for years to come, Obama is going to raise their taxes
and it will indirectly come from your wages.

proof?

Economics 101, take the course.

he IS gonna raise taxes on the rich. but guess who made the most money
in the last 10 year, while the middle class got NO raises at all?

He is going to raise taxes on *everyone*. I will have the satisfaction
it hurts you more than I. (Time for you to insert your paranioa victim
loves company speil here).

but to him? he'll lie about obama. obama's a darkie, you see. and it's
immoral for a darkie to have power.

Doesn't mater what color he is to me. A big mouth liar is a big mouth
liar. And big mouth liars cause people to lose wealth. You should look
at some of the posts I made about Bush and bank bailouts.

he LOVES the rich frat boy bush. bush stole like a thief. he killed
4400 US soldiers and poured 1 trillion into a wasted war

but he is RICH. and he's WHITE. so he's not the problem

Funny, last I checked the congress and senate in a bipartizan vote told
Bush to go get Obama, sorry, Osama Bin Ladden and the Taliban.

Tax the company more and
they will pay less. It is all interdependant. Want higher wages there
are only two ways. Get a skill that has elasticity in wages or get a
good economy that needs people. All people thrive best when
unemployment is so low employers have to treat employees right.

gee. i guess you believe in buy low and sell high, too, huh?

Sure do try the buy low sell high, works for me. Guess you like the buy
high and sell low so you can feel sorry for yourself.

what do you suggest? a nation of brain surgeons?

Then brain surgeions would be cheap. But not many would make it, so
yea, it would be a good 6 digit salary for life and worth the effort.
If Obama taxes more increasing your costs and lowering your net wages,
just raise your rates to compensate. So it would be a good career choice.

any MORE right wing cliche bull**** you want to spout, or have you
shot your load?

You should go off and sing, "Born to be a loser...".

--
Socialism and statism are great as long as someone else pays for it.

"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 18:58:07 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 23/04/2010 6:09 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 17:06:32 -0600,
wrote:
Think what you want. I turned on Bsh when he started the bailout
corruption. I actually had hopes that Obama would stop it. But looks
like Obama is just a bull****er.

no you didn't. you're unable to fathom the CAUSE of the situation
we're in. you think obama's been presdient for 9 years. so you blame
it ALL on him instead of your lord god, the rich white boy

Just learn what VAT means. It is coming.

i hope so. it works in europe. we can learn something

you, however, can't


It would work here, but it would have to be implemented very slowly,
otherwise the disruption would be catastrophic to the economy.

--
Nom=de=Plume

On 23/04/2010 11:44 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
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On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 18:58:07 -0600,
wrote:

On 23/04/2010 6:09 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 17:06:32 -0600,
wrote:
Think what you want. I turned on Bsh when he started the bailout
corruption. I actually had hopes that Obama would stop it. But looks
like Obama is just a bull****er.

no you didn't. you're unable to fathom the CAUSE of the situation
we're in. you think obama's been presdient for 9 years. so you blame
it ALL on him instead of your lord god, the rich white boy

Just learn what VAT means. It is coming.

i hope so. it works in europe. we can learn something

you, however, can't


It would work here, but it would have to be implemented very slowly,
otherwise the disruption would be catastrophic to the economy.

At the rate DC is doing debt, it will be abrupt. You are just sore as
you now see it is coming around your way. Did you really think
debt-spend bailouts and big governemtn out of control spending was free?

--
Socialism and statism are great as long as someone else pays for it.

"Canuck57" wrote in message
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On 23/04/2010 11:44 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
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On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 18:58:07 -0600,
wrote:

On 23/04/2010 6:09 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 17:06:32 -0600,
wrote:
Think what you want. I turned on Bsh when he started the bailout
corruption. I actually had hopes that Obama would stop it. But
looks
like Obama is just a bull****er.

no you didn't. you're unable to fathom the CAUSE of the situation
we're in. you think obama's been presdient for 9 years. so you blame
it ALL on him instead of your lord god, the rich white boy

Just learn what VAT means. It is coming.

i hope so. it works in europe. we can learn something

you, however, can't


It would work here, but it would have to be implemented very slowly,
otherwise the disruption would be catastrophic to the economy.

At the rate DC is doing debt, it will be abrupt. You are just sore as you
now see it is coming around your way. Did you really think debt-spend
bailouts and big governemtn out of control spending was free?

--
Socialism and statism are great as long as someone else pays for it.


You're just an idiot. Did I ever think otherwise? No.

--
Nom=de=Plume