On 4/21/10 12:46 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 07:05:38 -0600,
wrote:

I wonder what
Goldman did to tick off Obama?

Somebody had to be charged with something and they picked one with
record profits so they could easily pay the fine. In real life it was
really a German bank that got screwed in this "fraud" and I have heard
some people who are familiar with the facts that say Goldman may beat
this thing.
Obama can say he tried, Goldman can say they were vindicated and a lot
of lawyers will get a new yacht out of it. (the "boating content")
Isn't that the American way?


You guys are a trip. Hundreds, if not thousands, of wall streeters and
bankers and insurance execs should be rounded up, charged with fraud,
conspiracy, and operating a criminal enterprise, and tried.

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On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 13:06:36 -0400, hk
wrote:

Hundreds, if not thousands, of wall streeters and
bankers and insurance execs should be rounded up, charged with fraud,
conspiracy, and operating a criminal enterprise, and tried.

It would be difficult to find charges that would stick unless you
overturned the constitution. The big outfits like Goldman spend
hundreds of millions every year on top notch legal talent to ensure
that they operate (barely) within the law. If you were able to get
convictions, substantial numbers of donors to your favorite political
party would find themselves in the gray bar hotel and that also seems
unlikely.

On 4/21/10 1:17 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 13:06:36 -0400,
wrote:

Hundreds, if not thousands, of wall streeters and
bankers and insurance execs should be rounded up, charged with fraud,
conspiracy, and operating a criminal enterprise, and tried.

It would be difficult to find charges that would stick unless you
overturned the constitution. The big outfits like Goldman spend
hundreds of millions every year on top notch legal talent to ensure
that they operate (barely) within the law. If you were able to get
convictions, substantial numbers of donors to your favorite political
party would find themselves in the gray bar hotel and that also seems
unlikely.


Sorry, I don't buy it. Throw enough government lawyers and contracted
law firms at the mess, and they'll surely find charges that will stick.
Convicting a few hundred suits and sending them to the slammer would do
wonder for restoring a bit of integrity to the investment con job
business. And we also need much, much tighter oversight of the
"investment biz." Penny ante thieves go to prison. So should the big
time thieves in the "investment" biz.

Perhaps these "investment" clowns should be bonded. If they act
imprudently, the bonding companies would make restitution and then work
with prosecutors to make sure the crooks are tried in criminal courts.


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On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 13:06:36 -0400, hk
wrote:

Hundreds, if not thousands, of wall streeters and
bankers and insurance execs should be rounded up, charged with fraud,
conspiracy, and operating a criminal enterprise, and tried.

It would be difficult to find charges that would stick unless you
overturned the constitution. The big outfits like Goldman spend
hundreds of millions every year on top notch legal talent to ensure
that they operate (barely) within the law. If you were able to get
convictions, substantial numbers of donors to your favorite political
party would find themselves in the gray bar hotel and that also seems
unlikely.

Obama wouldn't be on the hot seat to disgorge nearly $1,000,000 from
Goldman employees.

On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 13:17:54 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 13:06:36 -0400, hk
wrote:

Hundreds, if not thousands, of wall streeters and
bankers and insurance execs should be rounded up, charged with fraud,
conspiracy, and operating a criminal enterprise, and tried.

It would be difficult to find charges that would stick unless you
overturned the constitution. The big outfits like Goldman spend
hundreds of millions every year on top notch legal talent to ensure
that they operate (barely) within the law.

and even if they didn't, they'd just pay to get the law changes.

On 21/04/2010 11:06 AM, hk wrote:
On 4/21/10 12:46 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 07:05:38 -0600,
wrote:

I wonder what
Goldman did to tick off Obama?

Somebody had to be charged with something and they picked one with
record profits so they could easily pay the fine. In real life it was
really a German bank that got screwed in this "fraud" and I have heard
some people who are familiar with the facts that say Goldman may beat
this thing.
Obama can say he tried, Goldman can say they were vindicated and a lot
of lawyers will get a new yacht out of it. (the "boating content")
Isn't that the American way?


You guys are a trip. Hundreds, if not thousands, of wall streeters and
bankers and insurance execs should be rounded up, charged with fraud,
conspiracy, and operating a criminal enterprise, and tried.


That should include congress and the president who paid them out.

And I would agree. This corruption has to stop and pretty obvious big
mouth Obama isn't doing squat but making it happen.

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Time to ask, is our government serving us or are we serving the government?

On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 18:49:34 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 21/04/2010 11:06 AM, hk wrote:
On 4/21/10 12:46 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 07:05:38 -0600,
wrote:

I wonder what
Goldman did to tick off Obama?

Somebody had to be charged with something and they picked one with
record profits so they could easily pay the fine. In real life it was
really a German bank that got screwed in this "fraud" and I have heard
some people who are familiar with the facts that say Goldman may beat
this thing.
Obama can say he tried, Goldman can say they were vindicated and a lot
of lawyers will get a new yacht out of it. (the "boating content")
Isn't that the American way?


You guys are a trip. Hundreds, if not thousands, of wall streeters and
bankers and insurance execs should be rounded up, charged with fraud,
conspiracy, and operating a criminal enterprise, and tried.


That should include congress and the president who paid them out.

And I would agree. This corruption has to stop and pretty obvious big
mouth Obama isn't doing squat but making it happen.

well let's see...

the racist darkie hater thinks we should put the rich back in charge

On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 13:33:28 -0400, wrote:



That will not happen. Wall street still has a huge lobby in DC.
There is still a question of whether Goldman actually broke a law. I
know they are sleazy but that is not illegal.

to paraphrase richard nixon, if a rich corporation does it, it's not
illegal