On 4/21/10 8:48 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 21/04/2010 10:46 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 07:05:38 -0600,
wrote:

I wonder what
Goldman did to tick off Obama?

Somebody had to be charged with something and they picked one with
record profits so they could easily pay the fine. In real life it was
really a German bank that got screwed in this "fraud" and I have heard
some people who are familiar with the facts that say Goldman may beat
this thing.
Obama can say he tried, Goldman can say they were vindicated and a lot
of lawyers will get a new yacht out of it. (the "boating content")
Isn't that the American way?

Seems to be these days. No end to the corruption.

Wish I could get a $62 billion dollar loan and only pay back $8.1 with
the money raised on more preferred shares.

Then I could afford more than a boat, but a ship.

You couldn't get a $10 loan.

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On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 18:49:34 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 21/04/2010 11:06 AM, hk wrote:
On 4/21/10 12:46 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 07:05:38 -0600,
wrote:

I wonder what
Goldman did to tick off Obama?

Somebody had to be charged with something and they picked one with
record profits so they could easily pay the fine. In real life it was
really a German bank that got screwed in this "fraud" and I have heard
some people who are familiar with the facts that say Goldman may beat
this thing.
Obama can say he tried, Goldman can say they were vindicated and a lot
of lawyers will get a new yacht out of it. (the "boating content")
Isn't that the American way?


You guys are a trip. Hundreds, if not thousands, of wall streeters and
bankers and insurance execs should be rounded up, charged with fraud,
conspiracy, and operating a criminal enterprise, and tried.


That should include congress and the president who paid them out.

And I would agree. This corruption has to stop and pretty obvious big
mouth Obama isn't doing squat but making it happen.

well let's see...

the racist darkie hater thinks we should put the rich back in charge

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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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"bpuharic" wrote in message
...
Yessirree, boy, you got to hand it to the GOP. after the worst
meltdown in 80 years, and fresh from their meeting with the US chamber
of commerce and wall street CEO's to plan on how they're going to
fight regulation of the financial markets, the GOP is getting TOUGH!!
they're going to

investigate the SEC for investigating goldman sachs....

they're not investigating goldman sachs....

they're feelling sorry for the wall street giant that got billions of
public funds...so they're investigaing the cops:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...l?hpid=topnews

way to go!!

This is a political whitewash of Goldman-Sachs and the government. Is
a Civil suit. GS cooperated with the SEC and all of the sudden the SEC
files a civil suit. Not a normal mode of business by the SEC. There
would be meetings and fines and other penalties, before it ever got to
a civil suit. This is a ploy to make it look like they are doing
something.

The was talk of criminal charges also. The SEC is, by law, a distinct
agency. I suspect you know little about the inner workings of the SEC.
You certainly haven't demonstrated any knowledge.

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Nope, but even the investment community is stating the same thing.
Political more than legal.



As I said, you know nothing about the SEC.

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Maybe not. But you know even less about stocks. Accusing someone of giving
money to Altria (MO) when they buy shares. MO got the money when they sold
the shares. They send me about 6.7% of todays value of the stock in a
dividend. They get no money when the stock is traded.

"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 21:59:16 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"bpuharic" wrote in message
. ..
Yessirree, boy, you got to hand it to the GOP. after the worst
meltdown in 80 years, and fresh from their meeting with the US chamber
of commerce and wall street CEO's to plan on how they're going to
fight regulation of the financial markets, the GOP is getting TOUGH!!
they're going to

investigate the SEC for investigating goldman sachs....

they're not investigating goldman sachs....

they're feelling sorry for the wall street giant that got billions of
public funds...so they're investigaing the cops:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...l?hpid=topnews

way to go!!

This is a political whitewash of Goldman-Sachs and the government. Is a
Civil suit

because american law does not allow prosecution of the rich for
criminal offenses. no matter WHAT GS did, the law protects the rich

. GS cooperated with the SEC and all of the sudden the SEC files
a civil suit. Not a normal mode of business by the SEC. There would be
meetings and fines and other penalties, before it ever got to a civil
suit.
This is a ploy to make it look like they are doing something.

the SEC should be disbanded and replaced by an agency that has some
teeth...and some indepdendence



They have both. They just do not bite the hands that control them.

On 21/04/2010 2:33 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 07:05:38 -0600,
wrote:

I wonder what
Goldman did to tick off Obama?

Somebody had to be charged with something and they picked one with
record profits so they could easily pay the fine. In real life it was
really a German bank that got screwed in this "fraud" and I have heard
some people who are familiar with the facts that say Goldman may beat
this thing.
Obama can say he tried, Goldman can say they were vindicated and a lot
of lawyers will get a new yacht out of it. (the "boating content")
Isn't that the American way?


Maybe I should go back to practice law again! nahhh...

You would define having a fool for representation.

The only law you might have done was as a file clerk.
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Time to ask, is our government serving us or are we serving the government?

On 21/04/2010 2:34 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
"Bill wrote in message
m...

wrote in message
...
Yessirree, boy, you got to hand it to the GOP. after the worst
meltdown in 80 years, and fresh from their meeting with the US chamber
of commerce and wall street CEO's to plan on how they're going to
fight regulation of the financial markets, the GOP is getting TOUGH!!
they're going to

investigate the SEC for investigating goldman sachs....

they're not investigating goldman sachs....

they're feelling sorry for the wall street giant that got billions of
public funds...so they're investigaing the cops:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...l?hpid=topnews

way to go!!

This is a political whitewash of Goldman-Sachs and the government. Is a
Civil suit. GS cooperated with the SEC and all of the sudden the SEC
files a civil suit. Not a normal mode of business by the SEC. There
would be meetings and fines and other penalties, before it ever got to a
civil suit. This is a ploy to make it look like they are doing something.

The was talk of criminal charges also. The SEC is, by law, a distinct
agency. I suspect you know little about the inner workings of the SEC. You
certainly haven't demonstrated any knowledge.

You don't have to be a lawyer to see that the SEC selectively enforces
things. Enron versus GM...both cooked the books. But then Wagoner was
from Harvard like Obama.

--
Time to ask, is our government serving us or are we serving the government?

On 21/04/2010 6:10 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 21:59:16 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


wrote in message
...
Yessirree, boy, you got to hand it to the GOP. after the worst
meltdown in 80 years, and fresh from their meeting with the US chamber
of commerce and wall street CEO's to plan on how they're going to
fight regulation of the financial markets, the GOP is getting TOUGH!!
they're going to

investigate the SEC for investigating goldman sachs....

they're not investigating goldman sachs....

they're feelling sorry for the wall street giant that got billions of
public funds...so they're investigaing the cops:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...l?hpid=topnews

way to go!!

This is a political whitewash of Goldman-Sachs and the government. Is a
Civil suit

because american law does not allow prosecution of the rich for
criminal offenses. no matter WHAT GS did, the law protects the rich

. GS cooperated with the SEC and all of the sudden the SEC files
a civil suit. Not a normal mode of business by the SEC. There would be
meetings and fines and other penalties, before it ever got to a civil suit.
This is a ploy to make it look like they are doing something.

the SEC should be disbanded and replaced by an agency that has some
teeth...and some indepdendence

Agreed there. SEC obviously gets it's chained pulled by politicians and
not justice.

--
Time to ask, is our government serving us or are we serving the government?

"Canuck57" wrote in message
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On 21/04/2010 2:33 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 07:05:38 -0600,
wrote:

I wonder what
Goldman did to tick off Obama?

Somebody had to be charged with something and they picked one with
record profits so they could easily pay the fine. In real life it was
really a German bank that got screwed in this "fraud" and I have heard
some people who are familiar with the facts that say Goldman may beat
this thing.
Obama can say he tried, Goldman can say they were vindicated and a lot
of lawyers will get a new yacht out of it. (the "boating content")
Isn't that the American way?


Maybe I should go back to practice law again! nahhh...

You would define having a fool for representation.

The only law you might have done was as a file clerk.
--
Time to ask, is our government serving us or are we serving the
government?


Says the moron who can't hold a job and can't get into the US. Keep trying
to impress people with your vast intellect.... also, get a job.

--
Nom=de=Plume

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m...

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m...

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m...

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...
Yessirree, boy, you got to hand it to the GOP. after the worst
meltdown in 80 years, and fresh from their meeting with the US
chamber
of commerce and wall street CEO's to plan on how they're going to
fight regulation of the financial markets, the GOP is getting TOUGH!!
they're going to

investigate the SEC for investigating goldman sachs....

they're not investigating goldman sachs....

they're feelling sorry for the wall street giant that got billions of
public funds...so they're investigaing the cops:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...l?hpid=topnews

way to go!!

This is a political whitewash of Goldman-Sachs and the government. Is
a Civil suit. GS cooperated with the SEC and all of the sudden the
SEC files a civil suit. Not a normal mode of business by the SEC.
There would be meetings and fines and other penalties, before it ever
got to a civil suit. This is a ploy to make it look like they are
doing something.

The was talk of criminal charges also. The SEC is, by law, a distinct
agency. I suspect you know little about the inner workings of the SEC.
You certainly haven't demonstrated any knowledge.

--
Nom=de=Plume


Nope, but even the investment community is stating the same thing.
Political more than legal.



As I said, you know nothing about the SEC.

--
Nom=de=Plume


Maybe not. But you know even less about stocks. Accusing someone of
giving money to Altria (MO) when they buy shares. MO got the money when
they sold the shares. They send me about 6.7% of todays value of the
stock in a dividend. They get no money when the stock is traded.



There's no maybe about it. You're clueless. Who do you think creates the
stock that gets sold... the ghost of christmas past?

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Nom=de=Plume

"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
On 21/04/2010 2:34 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
"Bill wrote in message
m...

wrote in message
...
Yessirree, boy, you got to hand it to the GOP. after the worst
meltdown in 80 years, and fresh from their meeting with the US chamber
of commerce and wall street CEO's to plan on how they're going to
fight regulation of the financial markets, the GOP is getting TOUGH!!
they're going to

investigate the SEC for investigating goldman sachs....

they're not investigating goldman sachs....

they're feelling sorry for the wall street giant that got billions of
public funds...so they're investigaing the cops:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...l?hpid=topnews

way to go!!

This is a political whitewash of Goldman-Sachs and the government. Is a
Civil suit. GS cooperated with the SEC and all of the sudden the SEC
files a civil suit. Not a normal mode of business by the SEC. There
would be meetings and fines and other penalties, before it ever got to a
civil suit. This is a ploy to make it look like they are doing
something.

The was talk of criminal charges also. The SEC is, by law, a distinct
agency. I suspect you know little about the inner workings of the SEC.
You
certainly haven't demonstrated any knowledge.

You don't have to be a lawyer to see that the SEC selectively enforces
things. Enron versus GM...both cooked the books. But then Wagoner was
from Harvard like Obama.

--
Time to ask, is our government serving us or are we serving the
government?


I would have to be an idiot to believe that you know anything of substance.

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Nom=de=Plume