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bpuharic April 21st 10 02:19 AM

the GOP is on the job!!
 
Yessirree, boy, you got to hand it to the GOP. after the worst
meltdown in 80 years, and fresh from their meeting with the US chamber
of commerce and wall street CEO's to plan on how they're going to
fight regulation of the financial markets, the GOP is getting TOUGH!!
they're going to

investigate the SEC for investigating goldman sachs....

they're not investigating goldman sachs....

they're feelling sorry for the wall street giant that got billions of
public funds...so they're investigaing the cops:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...l?hpid=topnews

way to go!!

Canuck57[_9_] April 21st 10 02:50 AM

the GOP is on the job!!
 
On 20/04/2010 7:19 PM, bpuharic wrote:

Yessirree, boy, you got to hand it to the GOP. after the worst
meltdown in 80 years, and fresh from their meeting with the US chamber
of commerce and wall street CEO's to plan on how they're going to
fight regulation of the financial markets, the GOP is getting TOUGH!!
they're going to


Funny, you would think the GOP runs the government the way you talk..

investigate the SEC for investigating goldman sachs....


Funny, SEC didn't investigate Obama's buddies at GM, Chrysler, Fannie,
Freddie etc. either.

they're not investigating goldman sachs....


How surprised, but isn't that a senate and presidential call? Maybe
Obama and democrats don't want us to know where all that money really went.

they're feelling sorry for the wall street giant that got billions of
public funds...so they're investigaing the cops:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...l?hpid=topnews

way to go!!


Hopefully a few honest types, GOP or not can get the real poop on all
this corruption debt-bailout BS. But it sure looks like a big
conspiracy to defraud the US taxpayers.

Perhaps a big trial. Hault them all out. Why stop at Goldman? Bring
in GM, Citi, BoA etc.

Start putting CEO, CFO and executives in jail for life. And not white
collar painted lies and golf tees. How about pounding rocks.

oh, and any politicians included in voting for bailouts that have
mysteriously benefited from contributions, hang them for treason.

--
Time to ask, is our government serving us or are we serving the government?

Bill McKee April 21st 10 05:59 AM

the GOP is on the job!!
 

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...
Yessirree, boy, you got to hand it to the GOP. after the worst
meltdown in 80 years, and fresh from their meeting with the US chamber
of commerce and wall street CEO's to plan on how they're going to
fight regulation of the financial markets, the GOP is getting TOUGH!!
they're going to

investigate the SEC for investigating goldman sachs....

they're not investigating goldman sachs....

they're feelling sorry for the wall street giant that got billions of
public funds...so they're investigaing the cops:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...l?hpid=topnews

way to go!!


This is a political whitewash of Goldman-Sachs and the government. Is a
Civil suit. GS cooperated with the SEC and all of the sudden the SEC files
a civil suit. Not a normal mode of business by the SEC. There would be
meetings and fines and other penalties, before it ever got to a civil suit.
This is a ploy to make it look like they are doing something.



bpuharic April 21st 10 11:21 AM

the GOP is on the job!!
 
On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 19:50:53 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 20/04/2010 7:19 PM, bpuharic wrote:

Yessirree, boy, you got to hand it to the GOP. after the worst
meltdown in 80 years, and fresh from their meeting with the US chamber
of commerce and wall street CEO's to plan on how they're going to
fight regulation of the financial markets, the GOP is getting TOUGH!!
they're going to


Funny, you would think the GOP runs the government the way you talk..


ever hear of a filibuster? you aren't up on american politics. i'd
stay out of it if i were you; you might get hurt.


investigate the SEC for investigating goldman sachs....


Funny, SEC didn't investigate Obama's buddies at GM, Chrysler, Fannie,
Freddie etc. either.


how many investigations at once? and none of them, except fannie mae,
had an effect on the financial meltdown.

they're feelling sorry for the wall street giant that got billions of
public funds...so they're investigaing the cops:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...l?hpid=topnews

way to go!!


Hopefully a few honest types, GOP or not can get the real poop on all
this corruption debt-bailout BS. But it sure looks like a big
conspiracy to defraud the US taxpayers.


you mean because the GOP is now taking orders from wall street? of
course, they always have. that's why they met behind closed doors with
25 representatives of some of the biggest wall street hedge funds
recently


Perhaps a big trial. Hault them all out. Why stop at Goldman? Bring
in GM, Citi, BoA etc.

Start putting CEO, CFO and executives in jail for life. And not white
collar painted lies and golf tees. How about pounding rocks.


yep. it should be MUCH easier to pierce the corporate veil. the ruling
elite makes it too easy to escape responsibility


oh, and any politicians included in voting for bailouts that have
mysteriously benefited from contributions, hang them for treason.


bailouts were necessary. unfortunately. but we dont have to let it
happen again


Canuck57[_9_] April 21st 10 02:05 PM

the GOP is on the job!!
 
On 21/04/2010 4:21 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 19:50:53 -0600,
wrote:

On 20/04/2010 7:19 PM, bpuharic wrote:

Yessirree, boy, you got to hand it to the GOP. after the worst
meltdown in 80 years, and fresh from their meeting with the US chamber
of commerce and wall street CEO's to plan on how they're going to
fight regulation of the financial markets, the GOP is getting TOUGH!!
they're going to


Funny, you would think the GOP runs the government the way you talk..


ever hear of a filibuster? you aren't up on american politics. i'd
stay out of it if i were you; you might get hurt.


You fail civics? So you can filibuster but it stops nothing.

investigate the SEC for investigating goldman sachs....


Funny, SEC didn't investigate Obama's buddies at GM, Chrysler, Fannie,
Freddie etc. either.


how many investigations at once? and none of them, except fannie mae,
had an effect on the financial meltdown.


How about like Itally did wih the mafia, 300 at once.

But this government is selective, more like 1935 Germany. I wonder what
Goldman did to tick off Obama? After all, Goldman was doing just what
government wanted in the first place. Sounds like DC is flipant. Could
be that it has to do with this being an election year for some.

November 2010 is on their minds, this is a ruse to quel the discontent.
Chest puffing BS.

they're feelling sorry for the wall street giant that got billions of
public funds...so they're investigaing the cops:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...l?hpid=topnews

way to go!!


Hopefully a few honest types, GOP or not can get the real poop on all
this corruption debt-bailout BS. But it sure looks like a big
conspiracy to defraud the US taxpayers.


you mean because the GOP is now taking orders from wall street? of
course, they always have. that's why they met behind closed doors with
25 representatives of some of the biggest wall street hedge funds
recently


You mean like the Dems took orders from UAW and banks? It was a
democrat congress who created TARP and didn't see any dems complain when
it was misappropriated to corrupt auto.

Now you have Government Motors lobbiests donating government money to
senators and congress people to get elected. Slight conflict of
interest here, government paying for representations advertising. Too
bad you can't see what is wrong with that.

Democriters are at least as corrupt, perhaps more as trillions of debt
are being spent on buddies.

Perhaps a big trial. Hault them all out. Why stop at Goldman? Bring
in GM, Citi, BoA etc.

Start putting CEO, CFO and executives in jail for life. And not white
collar painted lies and golf tees. How about pounding rocks.


yep. it should be MUCH easier to pierce the corporate veil. the ruling
elite makes it too easy to escape responsibility


You want to put a dent into corporate corruption, you will need to start
by fixing governemnt corruption first. Pretty clear Obama is not going
to prosecut fellow Harvard types like Wagoner for misrepresentation of
GM financials.

oh, and any politicians included in voting for bailouts that have
mysteriously benefited from contributions, hang them for treason.


bailouts were necessary. unfortunately. but we dont have to let it
happen again


No they are not, that is a myth used on the weak minded.

And as any business person has been tought, bailouts so far are a sunk
cost. Always look forward on ROI. And bailouts have no ROI. Just
politicial grandstanding and appeasement of the corrupt.

--
Time to ask, is our government serving us or are we serving the government?

hk April 21st 10 06:06 PM

the GOP is on the job!!
 
On 4/21/10 12:46 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 07:05:38 -0600,
wrote:

I wonder what
Goldman did to tick off Obama?


Somebody had to be charged with something and they picked one with
record profits so they could easily pay the fine. In real life it was
really a German bank that got screwed in this "fraud" and I have heard
some people who are familiar with the facts that say Goldman may beat
this thing.
Obama can say he tried, Goldman can say they were vindicated and a lot
of lawyers will get a new yacht out of it. (the "boating content")
Isn't that the American way?



You guys are a trip. Hundreds, if not thousands, of wall streeters and
bankers and insurance execs should be rounded up, charged with fraud,
conspiracy, and operating a criminal enterprise, and tried.

--
The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name.

Wayne.B April 21st 10 06:17 PM

the GOP is on the job!!
 
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 13:06:36 -0400, hk
wrote:

Hundreds, if not thousands, of wall streeters and
bankers and insurance execs should be rounded up, charged with fraud,
conspiracy, and operating a criminal enterprise, and tried.


It would be difficult to find charges that would stick unless you
overturned the constitution. The big outfits like Goldman spend
hundreds of millions every year on top notch legal talent to ensure
that they operate (barely) within the law. If you were able to get
convictions, substantial numbers of donors to your favorite political
party would find themselves in the gray bar hotel and that also seems
unlikely.

hk April 21st 10 06:29 PM

the GOP is on the job!!
 
On 4/21/10 1:17 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 13:06:36 -0400,
wrote:

Hundreds, if not thousands, of wall streeters and
bankers and insurance execs should be rounded up, charged with fraud,
conspiracy, and operating a criminal enterprise, and tried.


It would be difficult to find charges that would stick unless you
overturned the constitution. The big outfits like Goldman spend
hundreds of millions every year on top notch legal talent to ensure
that they operate (barely) within the law. If you were able to get
convictions, substantial numbers of donors to your favorite political
party would find themselves in the gray bar hotel and that also seems
unlikely.



Sorry, I don't buy it. Throw enough government lawyers and contracted
law firms at the mess, and they'll surely find charges that will stick.
Convicting a few hundred suits and sending them to the slammer would do
wonder for restoring a bit of integrity to the investment con job
business. And we also need much, much tighter oversight of the
"investment biz." Penny ante thieves go to prison. So should the big
time thieves in the "investment" biz.

Perhaps these "investment" clowns should be bonded. If they act
imprudently, the bonding companies would make restitution and then work
with prosecutors to make sure the crooks are tried in criminal courts.


--
The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name.

nom=de=plume April 21st 10 09:33 PM

the GOP is on the job!!
 
wrote in message
...
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 07:05:38 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

I wonder what
Goldman did to tick off Obama?


Somebody had to be charged with something and they picked one with
record profits so they could easily pay the fine. In real life it was
really a German bank that got screwed in this "fraud" and I have heard
some people who are familiar with the facts that say Goldman may beat
this thing.
Obama can say he tried, Goldman can say they were vindicated and a lot
of lawyers will get a new yacht out of it. (the "boating content")
Isn't that the American way?



Maybe I should go back to practice law again! ;) nahhh...

--
Nom=de=Plume



nom=de=plume April 21st 10 09:34 PM

the GOP is on the job!!
 
"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m...

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...
Yessirree, boy, you got to hand it to the GOP. after the worst
meltdown in 80 years, and fresh from their meeting with the US chamber
of commerce and wall street CEO's to plan on how they're going to
fight regulation of the financial markets, the GOP is getting TOUGH!!
they're going to

investigate the SEC for investigating goldman sachs....

they're not investigating goldman sachs....

they're feelling sorry for the wall street giant that got billions of
public funds...so they're investigaing the cops:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...l?hpid=topnews

way to go!!


This is a political whitewash of Goldman-Sachs and the government. Is a
Civil suit. GS cooperated with the SEC and all of the sudden the SEC
files a civil suit. Not a normal mode of business by the SEC. There
would be meetings and fines and other penalties, before it ever got to a
civil suit. This is a ploy to make it look like they are doing something.


The was talk of criminal charges also. The SEC is, by law, a distinct
agency. I suspect you know little about the inner workings of the SEC. You
certainly haven't demonstrated any knowledge.

--
Nom=de=Plume




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