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On Apr 1, 5:22*am, W1TEF wrote:
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On Mar 31, 9:42 pm, "Bill McKee" wrote:
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My local mechanic guy also sells tires, and he's good with a wrench.
I've put it off for so long, but now it's time to do something about
the tires. they're B78x13 and when I called him to tell him the size
number he imediatly said that size is hard to come by. Not necessarily
saying they are super rare, but they're not a popular size. So he did
some calling and shopping around and said he could get them for about
59.00 a piece x 4. But he told me the brand name which happens to be
"Carlisle" , and I remember from past discussions that Carlisle's had
mixed reviews, Some say they wear like indeffinately, some say they're
prone to blow outs.


These are a 6 ply tire that my mechanic was talking about and I'm not
sure if they're a radial or a bias-ply , but Now I'm a bit hesitant
about using that brand.


Any thoughts?


The direct replacement tire is ST175/80R13 and they are available in
Goodyear Marathons for $65 out of Sam's Club. Don't know about any
other tire distributor.


I'd only use Marathons - I've used them for years on various trailers
and have never had any problems with them at all.


I had Carlisle's and I join the rant. 5 blowouts in 2 years and one ready
to blowout when the other tire on that side blowout. 2nd tire is separating
as I look at it. If you can fit 14" go with those. Lots more load carrying
capacity.


I'll see if I can go with 14's. raising the trailer fenders *gets
close to the hull of the boat but I'll look into it, and also check
the axle spacing to see if it can be done. *That's where stuff might
become critical. And if anything else I'll check into the Marathons.
It sounds to me like Carlisle's aren't doing it.


Carlisle tires are ok for lawn tractor trailer tires and wheel
barrows. *I wouldn't use them on anything. The ones on Don's trailer
were brand new when I bought the trailer - five years later, he's got
to replace them. *Not good.

The Marathons are the superior tire. *Even in the thirteen inch size,
they have more than sufficient load carrying capacity to handle your
cuddy safely - going to fourteens would be better naturally, but I
wouldn't go all icky balooky about the thirteens.

I brought the 3,800lb Halman home from Wisconsin, at highway speed, on
Marathons - single axle trailer and no problems - they were almost ten
years old and still looked new. The Marathons on my Ranger trailer are
eleven years old and still look new.

The only problem I see is load capacity - I don't know how heavy your
trailer/boat combination is. *The *ST175/80R13 is rated at 1,360/lbs -
which would be fine on a tandem trailer, but a single axle could be a
little problematic.

How heavy is the boat/trailer combination?


U don't know the stock weight of either but will find out, though. .
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How heavy is the boat/trailer combination?


U don't know the stock weight of either but will find out, though. .


Best bet is to find someone local with a truck scale and weigh it as
you actually have it now, perhaps at a scrap metal dealer. Boats
usually end up considerably over stock weight.
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On Apr 1, 7:20*am, Wayne.B wrote:
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How heavy is the boat/trailer combination?


U don't know the stock weight of either *but will find out, though. .


Best bet is to find someone local with a truck scale and weigh it as
you actually have it now, perhaps at a scrap metal dealer. *Boats
usually end up considerably over stock weight.


Now that's a good idea Wayne. The local fertilizer plant just a half
mile away.

Thanks for the suggestion!
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U don't know the stock weight of either *but will find out, though. .


Is the trailer *tandem axle?


Yessir, it is. And I wish I could put 15 inchers on it, but that
woudl probably make the whole rig sit too high.


What's the amtter with using car tires any how? I had a '74 Caddy
Sedan DeVille Brogham which weighed about 5800lb, and it had car
tires.

What's so magic about trailer tires anyhow?


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What's the amtter with using car tires any how? I had a '74 Caddy
Sedan DeVille Brogham which weighed about 5800lb, and it had car
tires.

What's so magic about trailer tires anyhow?


Trailer tires are usually designed for higher inflation pressure which
helps them run cooler and stiffens up the sidewalls, all of which
improves longevity and reduces trailer sway.
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On Apr 1, 7:20*am, Wayne.B wrote:
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What's the amtter with using car tires any how? * I had a '74 Caddy
Sedan DeVille Brogham which weighed about *5800lb, and it had car
tires.


What's so magic about trailer tires anyhow?


Trailer tires are usually designed for higher inflation pressure which
helps them run cooler and stiffens up the sidewalls, all of which
improves longevity and reduces trailer sway.


Wayne, I can sort of understand what you mean by trailer sway, but a
lot of trailers are using radials now which sway too.


But I know what you're saying.
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On Apr 1, 6:30 am, W1TEF wrote:
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U don't know the stock weight of either but will find out, though. .

Is the trailer tandem axle?


Yessir, it is. And I wish I could put 15 inchers on it, but that
woudl probably make the whole rig sit too high.


What's the amtter with using car tires any how? I had a '74 Caddy
Sedan DeVille Brogham which weighed about 5800lb, and it had car
tires.

What's so magic about trailer tires anyhow?


You'd peel car tires right off the rim with a tandom trailer. The
sidewalls are too flexible.
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On Apr 1, 7:31*am, W1TEF wrote:
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On Apr 1, 6:30 am, W1TEF wrote:
On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 05:11:13 -0700 (PDT), Tim
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U don't know the stock weight of either but will find out, though. .


Is the trailer tandem axle?


Yessir, it is. *And I wish I could put 15 inchers on it, but that
woudl probably make the whole rig sit too high.


What's the amtter with using car tires any how? * I had a '74 Caddy
Sedan DeVille Brogham which weighed about *5800lb, and it had car
tires.


What's so magic about trailer tires anyhow?


I'm not exactly sure about this because I'm going on memory, but the
difference is in sidewall ratings and construction. *Car tires have
more bend and flex in the sidewalls vs trailer tires which have very
little to no side wall flex. *It's the same with LT (light truck)
tires vs passenger car tires - the sidewall load factor.

For example, I have Firestone ten ply, high pressure tires on the
F-150 rather than the lower profile Goodrich AT type tire. *I get a
little rougher/stiffer ride, but their performance is much superior to
the low pressure radial LT tire - and I get better milage and wear out
of them.

A more flexible trailer tire will allow for more sway in the trailer
than a ST trailer tire. *More betterer safferer...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


10 plys on a ford 150???


Why dont you put rubber treads on a B&O box car rim. That would be the
same effect wouldn't it?

?;^ Q
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On Apr 1, 7:31 am, W1TEF wrote:
On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 06:09:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim
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On Apr 1, 6:30 am, W1TEF wrote:
On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 05:11:13 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

U don't know the stock weight of either but will find out, though. .

Is the trailer tandem axle?

Yessir, it is. And I wish I could put 15 inchers on it, but that
woudl probably make the whole rig sit too high.

What's the amtter with using car tires any how? I had a '74 Caddy
Sedan DeVille Brogham which weighed about 5800lb, and it had car
tires.

What's so magic about trailer tires anyhow?

I'm not exactly sure about this because I'm going on memory, but the
difference is in sidewall ratings and construction. Car tires have
more bend and flex in the sidewalls vs trailer tires which have very
little to no side wall flex. It's the same with LT (light truck)
tires vs passenger car tires - the sidewall load factor.

For example, I have Firestone ten ply, high pressure tires on the
F-150 rather than the lower profile Goodrich AT type tire. I get a
little rougher/stiffer ride, but their performance is much superior to
the low pressure radial LT tire - and I get better milage and wear out
of them.

A more flexible trailer tire will allow for more sway in the trailer
than a ST trailer tire. More betterer safferer...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


10 plys on a ford 150???


Yep...

Why dont you put rubber treads on a B&O box car rim. That would be the
same effect wouldn't it?

?;^ Q


If I thought I could get away with it, I would.

Seriously, the ride, while stiffer, is much better, the handling
improved significantly, the truck rides about two inches higher with
no change in steering geometry and the fuel milage improved by roughly
3 mpg. And it tows the boats much better than the stock tires.

And, extra added bonus, I get longer life out of them. I have over
75,000 on this set of tires and I'm not even close to getting new ones
yet - another year I'll probably have to break down and get new tires,
but I can get one more year out of them at least and they will still
have legal tread on them.

I had close to 90,000 on these same tires on the F-250 and they just
shy of having to be replaced.

Best tire I've ever put on a truck.


My tandem axle EZloader with bunks weighed 1100#. Local dumps have scales,
and normally will weigh you for free, if no certificate required.




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