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On Apr 1, 5:22*am, W1TEF wrote:
On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 20:43:24 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Mar 31, 9:42 pm, "Bill McKee" wrote: "W1TEF" wrote in message . .. On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:06:32 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: My local mechanic guy also sells tires, and he's good with a wrench. I've put it off for so long, but now it's time to do something about the tires. they're B78x13 and when I called him to tell him the size number he imediatly said that size is hard to come by. Not necessarily saying they are super rare, but they're not a popular size. So he did some calling and shopping around and said he could get them for about 59.00 a piece x 4. But he told me the brand name which happens to be "Carlisle" , and I remember from past discussions that Carlisle's had mixed reviews, Some say they wear like indeffinately, some say they're prone to blow outs. These are a 6 ply tire that my mechanic was talking about and I'm not sure if they're a radial or a bias-ply , but Now I'm a bit hesitant about using that brand. Any thoughts? The direct replacement tire is ST175/80R13 and they are available in Goodyear Marathons for $65 out of Sam's Club. Don't know about any other tire distributor. I'd only use Marathons - I've used them for years on various trailers and have never had any problems with them at all. I had Carlisle's and I join the rant. 5 blowouts in 2 years and one ready to blowout when the other tire on that side blowout. 2nd tire is separating as I look at it. If you can fit 14" go with those. Lots more load carrying capacity. I'll see if I can go with 14's. raising the trailer fenders *gets close to the hull of the boat but I'll look into it, and also check the axle spacing to see if it can be done. *That's where stuff might become critical. And if anything else I'll check into the Marathons. It sounds to me like Carlisle's aren't doing it. Carlisle tires are ok for lawn tractor trailer tires and wheel barrows. *I wouldn't use them on anything. The ones on Don's trailer were brand new when I bought the trailer - five years later, he's got to replace them. *Not good. The Marathons are the superior tire. *Even in the thirteen inch size, they have more than sufficient load carrying capacity to handle your cuddy safely - going to fourteens would be better naturally, but I wouldn't go all icky balooky about the thirteens. I brought the 3,800lb Halman home from Wisconsin, at highway speed, on Marathons - single axle trailer and no problems - they were almost ten years old and still looked new. The Marathons on my Ranger trailer are eleven years old and still look new. The only problem I see is load capacity - I don't know how heavy your trailer/boat combination is. *The *ST175/80R13 is rated at 1,360/lbs - which would be fine on a tandem trailer, but a single axle could be a little problematic. How heavy is the boat/trailer combination? U don't know the stock weight of either but will find out, though. . |
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On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 05:11:13 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: How heavy is the boat/trailer combination? U don't know the stock weight of either but will find out, though. . Best bet is to find someone local with a truck scale and weigh it as you actually have it now, perhaps at a scrap metal dealer. Boats usually end up considerably over stock weight. |
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On Apr 1, 7:20*am, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 05:11:13 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: How heavy is the boat/trailer combination? U don't know the stock weight of either *but will find out, though. . Best bet is to find someone local with a truck scale and weigh it as you actually have it now, perhaps at a scrap metal dealer. *Boats usually end up considerably over stock weight. Now that's a good idea Wayne. The local fertilizer plant just a half mile away. Thanks for the suggestion! |
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says... On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 05:11:13 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: How heavy is the boat/trailer combination? U don't know the stock weight of either but will find out, though. . Best bet is to find someone local with a truck scale and weigh it as you actually have it now, perhaps at a scrap metal dealer. Boats usually end up considerably over stock weight. When I need a trailer weighed I head to the local rock quarry, they have a scale there and the guy will weigh your boat if you bring him an egg mcmuffin or similar ![]() Scotty -- For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v |
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On Apr 1, 6:30*am, W1TEF wrote:
On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 05:11:13 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: U don't know the stock weight of either *but will find out, though. . Is the trailer *tandem axle? Yessir, it is. And I wish I could put 15 inchers on it, but that woudl probably make the whole rig sit too high. What's the amtter with using car tires any how? I had a '74 Caddy Sedan DeVille Brogham which weighed about 5800lb, and it had car tires. What's so magic about trailer tires anyhow? |
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On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 06:09:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: What's the amtter with using car tires any how? I had a '74 Caddy Sedan DeVille Brogham which weighed about 5800lb, and it had car tires. What's so magic about trailer tires anyhow? Trailer tires are usually designed for higher inflation pressure which helps them run cooler and stiffens up the sidewalls, all of which improves longevity and reduces trailer sway. |
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On Apr 1, 7:20*am, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 06:09:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: What's the amtter with using car tires any how? * I had a '74 Caddy Sedan DeVille Brogham which weighed about *5800lb, and it had car tires. What's so magic about trailer tires anyhow? Trailer tires are usually designed for higher inflation pressure which helps them run cooler and stiffens up the sidewalls, all of which improves longevity and reduces trailer sway. Wayne, I can sort of understand what you mean by trailer sway, but a lot of trailers are using radials now which sway too. But I know what you're saying. |
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Tim wrote:
On Apr 1, 6:30 am, W1TEF wrote: On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 05:11:13 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: U don't know the stock weight of either but will find out, though. . Is the trailer tandem axle? Yessir, it is. And I wish I could put 15 inchers on it, but that woudl probably make the whole rig sit too high. What's the amtter with using car tires any how? I had a '74 Caddy Sedan DeVille Brogham which weighed about 5800lb, and it had car tires. What's so magic about trailer tires anyhow? You'd peel car tires right off the rim with a tandom trailer. The sidewalls are too flexible. |
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On Apr 1, 7:31*am, W1TEF wrote:
On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 06:09:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Apr 1, 6:30 am, W1TEF wrote: On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 05:11:13 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: U don't know the stock weight of either but will find out, though. . Is the trailer tandem axle? Yessir, it is. *And I wish I could put 15 inchers on it, but that woudl probably make the whole rig sit too high. What's the amtter with using car tires any how? * I had a '74 Caddy Sedan DeVille Brogham which weighed about *5800lb, and it had car tires. What's so magic about trailer tires anyhow? I'm not exactly sure about this because I'm going on memory, but the difference is in sidewall ratings and construction. *Car tires have more bend and flex in the sidewalls vs trailer tires which have very little to no side wall flex. *It's the same with LT (light truck) tires vs passenger car tires - the sidewall load factor. For example, I have Firestone ten ply, high pressure tires on the F-150 rather than the lower profile Goodrich AT type tire. *I get a little rougher/stiffer ride, but their performance is much superior to the low pressure radial LT tire - and I get better milage and wear out of them. A more flexible trailer tire will allow for more sway in the trailer than a ST trailer tire. *More betterer safferer...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - 10 plys on a ford 150??? Why dont you put rubber treads on a B&O box car rim. That would be the same effect wouldn't it? ?;^ Q |
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![]() "W1TEF" wrote in message ... On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 06:35:36 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Apr 1, 7:31 am, W1TEF wrote: On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 06:09:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Apr 1, 6:30 am, W1TEF wrote: On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 05:11:13 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: U don't know the stock weight of either but will find out, though. . Is the trailer tandem axle? Yessir, it is. And I wish I could put 15 inchers on it, but that woudl probably make the whole rig sit too high. What's the amtter with using car tires any how? I had a '74 Caddy Sedan DeVille Brogham which weighed about 5800lb, and it had car tires. What's so magic about trailer tires anyhow? I'm not exactly sure about this because I'm going on memory, but the difference is in sidewall ratings and construction. Car tires have more bend and flex in the sidewalls vs trailer tires which have very little to no side wall flex. It's the same with LT (light truck) tires vs passenger car tires - the sidewall load factor. For example, I have Firestone ten ply, high pressure tires on the F-150 rather than the lower profile Goodrich AT type tire. I get a little rougher/stiffer ride, but their performance is much superior to the low pressure radial LT tire - and I get better milage and wear out of them. A more flexible trailer tire will allow for more sway in the trailer than a ST trailer tire. More betterer safferer...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - 10 plys on a ford 150??? Yep... Why dont you put rubber treads on a B&O box car rim. That would be the same effect wouldn't it? ?;^ Q If I thought I could get away with it, I would. Seriously, the ride, while stiffer, is much better, the handling improved significantly, the truck rides about two inches higher with no change in steering geometry and the fuel milage improved by roughly 3 mpg. And it tows the boats much better than the stock tires. And, extra added bonus, I get longer life out of them. I have over 75,000 on this set of tires and I'm not even close to getting new ones yet - another year I'll probably have to break down and get new tires, but I can get one more year out of them at least and they will still have legal tread on them. I had close to 90,000 on these same tires on the F-250 and they just shy of having to be replaced. Best tire I've ever put on a truck. My tandem axle EZloader with bunks weighed 1100#. Local dumps have scales, and normally will weigh you for free, if no certificate required. |
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