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Tim March 31st 10 11:06 PM

Trailer tires are dry rotted.
 
My local mechanic guy also sells tires, and he's good with a wrench.
I've put it off for so long, but now it's time to do something about
the tires. they're B78x13 and when I called him to tell him the size
number he imediatly said that size is hard to come by. Not necessarily
saying they are super rare, but they're not a popular size. So he did
some calling and shopping around and said he could get them for about
59.00 a piece x 4. But he told me the brand name which happens to be
"Carlisle" , and I remember from past discussions that Carlisle's had
mixed reviews, Some say they wear like indeffinately, some say they're
prone to blow outs.


These are a 6 ply tire that my mechanic was talking about and I'm not
sure if they're a radial or a bias-ply , but Now I'm a bit hesitant
about using that brand.

Any thoughts?



Don White March 31st 10 11:11 PM

Trailer tires are dry rotted.
 

"Tim" wrote in message
...
My local mechanic guy also sells tires, and he's good with a wrench.
I've put it off for so long, but now it's time to do something about
the tires. they're B78x13 and when I called him to tell him the size
number he imediatly said that size is hard to come by. Not necessarily
saying they are super rare, but they're not a popular size. So he did
some calling and shopping around and said he could get them for about
59.00 a piece x 4. But he told me the brand name which happens to be
"Carlisle" , and I remember from past discussions that Carlisle's had
mixed reviews, Some say they wear like indeffinately, some say they're
prone to blow outs.


These are a 6 ply tire that my mechanic was talking about and I'm not
sure if they're a radial or a bias-ply , but Now I'm a bit hesitant
about using that brand.

Any thoughts?


That's a common brand up here.
I thought most trailer tires were bias-ply for stiffer sidewalls.
$59.00 seems like a good price...I paid that much for the 5.80 x 12 tires on
my boat trailer last year.
When I went for a safety check on my 2005 Load-Rite boat trailer...the
mechanic wouldn't pass the 5 year old tires because a a few cracks in the
sidewalls.



Tim March 31st 10 11:46 PM

Trailer tires are dry rotted.
 
On Mar 31, 5:11*pm, "Don White" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

...



My local mechanic guy also sells tires, and he's good with a wrench.
I've put it off for so long, but now it's time to do something about
the tires. they're B78x13 and when I called him to tell him the size
number he imediatly said that size is hard to come by. Not necessarily
saying they are super rare, but they're not a popular size. So he did
some calling and shopping around and said he could get them for about
59.00 a piece x 4. But he told me the brand name which happens to be
"Carlisle" , and I remember from past discussions that Carlisle's had
mixed reviews, Some say they wear like indeffinately, some say they're
prone to blow outs.


These are a 6 ply tire that my mechanic was talking about and I'm not
sure if they're a radial or a bias-ply , but Now I'm a bit hesitant
about using that brand.


Any thoughts?


That's a common brand up here.
I thought most trailer tires were bias-ply for stiffer sidewalls.
$59.00 seems like a good price...I paid that much for the 5.80 x 12 tires on
my boat trailer last year.
When I went for a safety check on my 2005 Load-Rite boat trailer...the
mechanic wouldn't pass the 5 year old tires because a a few cracks in the
sidewalls.


Glad you had some decent luck, Don.

But just now looking around, I found this. There's some serious rant
going on, but I find that most of the people who had sorry luck were
either running a 4 ply when they should have had 6, or were under
inflating them.

http://www99.epinions.com/reviews/Ca...T_Utility_Tire

Larry[_12_] April 1st 10 01:18 AM

Trailer tires are dry rotted.
 
Don White wrote:
wrote in message
...

My local mechanic guy also sells tires, and he's good with a wrench.
I've put it off for so long, but now it's time to do something about
the tires. they're B78x13 and when I called him to tell him the size
number he imediatly said that size is hard to come by. Not necessarily
saying they are super rare, but they're not a popular size. So he did
some calling and shopping around and said he could get them for about
59.00 a piece x 4. But he told me the brand name which happens to be
"Carlisle" , and I remember from past discussions that Carlisle's had
mixed reviews, Some say they wear like indeffinately, some say they're
prone to blow outs.


These are a 6 ply tire that my mechanic was talking about and I'm not
sure if they're a radial or a bias-ply , but Now I'm a bit hesitant
about using that brand.

Any thoughts?


That's a common brand up here.
I thought most trailer tires were bias-ply for stiffer sidewalls.
$59.00 seems like a good price...I paid that much for the 5.80 x 12 tires on
my boat trailer last year.
When I went for a safety check on my 2005 Load-Rite boat trailer...the
mechanic wouldn't pass the 5 year old tires because a a few cracks in the
sidewalls.



If you have room, upgrade to 14" wheels next time. Those little 12" get
a workout unless you don't trailer too far or too often.

Bill McKee April 1st 10 03:42 AM

Trailer tires are dry rotted.
 

"W1TEF" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:06:32 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

My local mechanic guy also sells tires, and he's good with a wrench.
I've put it off for so long, but now it's time to do something about
the tires. they're B78x13 and when I called him to tell him the size
number he imediatly said that size is hard to come by. Not necessarily
saying they are super rare, but they're not a popular size. So he did
some calling and shopping around and said he could get them for about
59.00 a piece x 4. But he told me the brand name which happens to be
"Carlisle" , and I remember from past discussions that Carlisle's had
mixed reviews, Some say they wear like indeffinately, some say they're
prone to blow outs.


These are a 6 ply tire that my mechanic was talking about and I'm not
sure if they're a radial or a bias-ply , but Now I'm a bit hesitant
about using that brand.

Any thoughts?


The direct replacement tire is ST175/80R13 and they are available in
Goodyear Marathons for $65 out of Sam's Club. Don't know about any
other tire distributor.

I'd only use Marathons - I've used them for years on various trailers
and have never had any problems with them at all.


I had Carlisle's and I join the rant. 5 blowouts in 2 years and one ready
to blowout when the other tire on that side blowout. 2nd tire is separating
as I look at it. If you can fit 14" go with those. Lots more load carrying
capacity.



anon-e-moose[_2_] April 1st 10 03:50 AM

Trailer tires are dry rotted.
 
Bill McKee wrote:
"W1TEF" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:06:32 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

My local mechanic guy also sells tires, and he's good with a wrench.
I've put it off for so long, but now it's time to do something about
the tires. they're B78x13 and when I called him to tell him the size
number he imediatly said that size is hard to come by. Not necessarily
saying they are super rare, but they're not a popular size. So he did
some calling and shopping around and said he could get them for about
59.00 a piece x 4. But he told me the brand name which happens to be
"Carlisle" , and I remember from past discussions that Carlisle's had
mixed reviews, Some say they wear like indeffinately, some say they're
prone to blow outs.


These are a 6 ply tire that my mechanic was talking about and I'm not
sure if they're a radial or a bias-ply , but Now I'm a bit hesitant
about using that brand.

Any thoughts?

The direct replacement tire is ST175/80R13 and they are available in
Goodyear Marathons for $65 out of Sam's Club. Don't know about any
other tire distributor.

I'd only use Marathons - I've used them for years on various trailers
and have never had any problems with them at all.


I had Carlisle's and I join the rant. 5 blowouts in 2 years and one ready
to blowout when the other tire on that side blowout. 2nd tire is separating
as I look at it. If you can fit 14" go with those. Lots more load carrying
capacity.


Tread separation on two Carlisles at under 5000 miles. I check inflation
daily when towing. Carlisles are junk.

Tim April 1st 10 04:43 AM

Trailer tires are dry rotted.
 
On Mar 31, 9:42*pm, "Bill McKee" wrote:
"W1TEF" wrote in message

...



On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:06:32 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


My local mechanic guy also sells tires, and he's good with a wrench.
I've put it off for so long, but now it's time to do something about
the tires. they're B78x13 and when I called him to tell him the size
number he imediatly said that size is hard to come by. Not necessarily
saying they are super rare, but they're not a popular size. So he did
some calling and shopping around and said he could get them for about
59.00 a piece x 4. But he told me the brand name which happens to be
"Carlisle" , and I remember from past discussions that Carlisle's had
mixed reviews, Some say they wear like indeffinately, some say they're
prone to blow outs.


These are a 6 ply tire that my mechanic was talking about and I'm not
sure if they're a radial or a bias-ply , but Now I'm a bit hesitant
about using that brand.


Any thoughts?


The direct replacement tire is ST175/80R13 and they are available in
Goodyear Marathons for $65 out of Sam's Club. *Don't know about any
other tire distributor.


I'd only use Marathons - I've used them for years on various trailers
and have never had any problems with them at all.


I had Carlisle's and I join the rant. *5 blowouts in 2 years and one ready
to blowout when the other tire on that side blowout. *2nd tire is separating
as I look at it. *If you can fit 14" go with those. *Lots more load carrying
capacity.


I'll see if I can go with 14's. raising the trailer fenders gets
close to the hull of the boat but I'll look into it, and also check
the axle spacing to see if it can be done. That's where stuff might
become critical. And if anything else I'll check into the Marathons.
It sounds to me like Carlisle's aren't doing it.

*e#c April 1st 10 04:46 AM

Trailer tires are dry rotted.
 
On Mar 31, 6:11*pm, "Don White" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

...



My local mechanic guy also sells tires, and he's good with a wrench.
I've put it off for so long, but now it's time to do something about
the tires. they're B78x13 and when I called him to tell him the size
number he imediatly said that size is hard to come by. Not necessarily
saying they are super rare, but they're not a popular size. So he did
some calling and shopping around and said he could get them for about
59.00 a piece x 4. But he told me the brand name which happens to be
"Carlisle" , and I remember from past discussions that Carlisle's had
mixed reviews, Some say they wear like indeffinately, some say they're
prone to blow outs.


These are a 6 ply tire that my mechanic was talking about and I'm not
sure if they're a radial or a bias-ply , but Now I'm a bit hesitant
about using that brand.


Any thoughts?


That's a common brand up here.
I thought most trailer tires were bias-ply for stiffer sidewalls.
$59.00 seems like a good price...I paid that much for the 5.80 x 12 tires on
my boat trailer last year.
When I went for a safety check on my 2005 Load-Rite boat trailer...the
mechanic wouldn't pass the 5 year old tires because a a few cracks in the
sidewalls.


5Yrs old? LOL. The old tires I'm replacing now must be 20 yrs old.The
cracks in those sidewalls you could almost put 3 loonies side by each
in.

I can get them for about the same price up here , and thats a " B "
rating.

*e#c April 1st 10 04:49 AM

Trailer tires are dry rotted.
 
On Mar 31, 6:46*pm, Tim wrote:
On Mar 31, 5:11*pm, "Don White" wrote:



"Tim" wrote in message


....


My local mechanic guy also sells tires, and he's good with a wrench.
I've put it off for so long, but now it's time to do something about
the tires. they're B78x13 and when I called him to tell him the size
number he imediatly said that size is hard to come by. Not necessarily
saying they are super rare, but they're not a popular size. So he did
some calling and shopping around and said he could get them for about
59.00 a piece x 4. But he told me the brand name which happens to be
"Carlisle" , and I remember from past discussions that Carlisle's had
mixed reviews, Some say they wear like indeffinately, some say they're
prone to blow outs.


These are a 6 ply tire that my mechanic was talking about and I'm not
sure if they're a radial or a bias-ply , but Now I'm a bit hesitant
about using that brand.


Any thoughts?


That's a common brand up here.
I thought most trailer tires were bias-ply for stiffer sidewalls.
$59.00 seems like a good price...I paid that much for the 5.80 x 12 tires on
my boat trailer last year.
When I went for a safety check on my 2005 Load-Rite boat trailer...the
mechanic wouldn't pass the 5 year old tires because a a few cracks in the
sidewalls.


Glad you had some decent luck, Don.

But just now looking around, I found this. There's some serious rant
going on, but I find that most of the people who had sorry luck were
either running a 4 ply when they should have had 6, or were under
inflating them.

http://www99.epinions.com/reviews/Ca...T_Utility_Tire


I'm using Carlisles....but Bias Ply jobs. If I want to go bigger, I
have to replace both axles to ones with Brakes.

Trailer never came with em'...wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

Tim April 1st 10 01:11 PM

Trailer tires are dry rotted.
 
On Apr 1, 5:22*am, W1TEF wrote:
On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 20:43:24 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:



On Mar 31, 9:42 pm, "Bill McKee" wrote:
"W1TEF" wrote in message


. ..


On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:06:32 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


My local mechanic guy also sells tires, and he's good with a wrench.
I've put it off for so long, but now it's time to do something about
the tires. they're B78x13 and when I called him to tell him the size
number he imediatly said that size is hard to come by. Not necessarily
saying they are super rare, but they're not a popular size. So he did
some calling and shopping around and said he could get them for about
59.00 a piece x 4. But he told me the brand name which happens to be
"Carlisle" , and I remember from past discussions that Carlisle's had
mixed reviews, Some say they wear like indeffinately, some say they're
prone to blow outs.


These are a 6 ply tire that my mechanic was talking about and I'm not
sure if they're a radial or a bias-ply , but Now I'm a bit hesitant
about using that brand.


Any thoughts?


The direct replacement tire is ST175/80R13 and they are available in
Goodyear Marathons for $65 out of Sam's Club. Don't know about any
other tire distributor.


I'd only use Marathons - I've used them for years on various trailers
and have never had any problems with them at all.


I had Carlisle's and I join the rant. 5 blowouts in 2 years and one ready
to blowout when the other tire on that side blowout. 2nd tire is separating
as I look at it. If you can fit 14" go with those. Lots more load carrying
capacity.


I'll see if I can go with 14's. raising the trailer fenders *gets
close to the hull of the boat but I'll look into it, and also check
the axle spacing to see if it can be done. *That's where stuff might
become critical. And if anything else I'll check into the Marathons.
It sounds to me like Carlisle's aren't doing it.


Carlisle tires are ok for lawn tractor trailer tires and wheel
barrows. *I wouldn't use them on anything. The ones on Don's trailer
were brand new when I bought the trailer - five years later, he's got
to replace them. *Not good.

The Marathons are the superior tire. *Even in the thirteen inch size,
they have more than sufficient load carrying capacity to handle your
cuddy safely - going to fourteens would be better naturally, but I
wouldn't go all icky balooky about the thirteens.

I brought the 3,800lb Halman home from Wisconsin, at highway speed, on
Marathons - single axle trailer and no problems - they were almost ten
years old and still looked new. The Marathons on my Ranger trailer are
eleven years old and still look new.

The only problem I see is load capacity - I don't know how heavy your
trailer/boat combination is. *The *ST175/80R13 is rated at 1,360/lbs -
which would be fine on a tandem trailer, but a single axle could be a
little problematic.

How heavy is the boat/trailer combination?


U don't know the stock weight of either but will find out, though. .


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