On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 05:11:13 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

How heavy is the boat/trailer combination?

U don't know the stock weight of either but will find out, though. .

Best bet is to find someone local with a truck scale and weigh it as
you actually have it now, perhaps at a scrap metal dealer. Boats
usually end up considerably over stock weight.

On Apr 1, 7:20*am, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 05:11:13 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

How heavy is the boat/trailer combination?

U don't know the stock weight of either *but will find out, though. .

Best bet is to find someone local with a truck scale and weigh it as
you actually have it now, perhaps at a scrap metal dealer. *Boats
usually end up considerably over stock weight.

Now that's a good idea Wayne. The local fertilizer plant just a half
mile away.

Thanks for the suggestion!

On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 21:02:23 -0400, W1TEF wrote:

On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:06:32 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

My local mechanic guy also sells tires, and he's good with a wrench.
I've put it off for so long, but now it's time to do something about
the tires. they're B78x13 and when I called him to tell him the size
number he imediatly said that size is hard to come by. Not necessarily
saying they are super rare, but they're not a popular size. So he did
some calling and shopping around and said he could get them for about
59.00 a piece x 4. But he told me the brand name which happens to be
"Carlisle" , and I remember from past discussions that Carlisle's had
mixed reviews, Some say they wear like indeffinately, some say they're
prone to blow outs.


These are a 6 ply tire that my mechanic was talking about and I'm not
sure if they're a radial or a bias-ply , but Now I'm a bit hesitant
about using that brand.

Any thoughts?

The direct replacement tire is ST175/80R13 and they are available in
Goodyear Marathons for $65 out of Sam's Club. Don't know about any
other tire distributor.

I'd only use Marathons - I've used them for years on various trailers
and have never had any problems with them at all.

That is good to know. Thanks!
--
John H

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On Apr 1, 6:30*am, W1TEF wrote:
On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 05:11:13 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

U don't know the stock weight of either *but will find out, though. .

Is the trailer *tandem axle?

Yessir, it is. And I wish I could put 15 inchers on it, but that
woudl probably make the whole rig sit too high.


What's the amtter with using car tires any how? I had a '74 Caddy
Sedan DeVille Brogham which weighed about 5800lb, and it had car
tires.

What's so magic about trailer tires anyhow?

On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 06:09:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

What's the amtter with using car tires any how? I had a '74 Caddy
Sedan DeVille Brogham which weighed about 5800lb, and it had car
tires.

What's so magic about trailer tires anyhow?

Trailer tires are usually designed for higher inflation pressure which
helps them run cooler and stiffens up the sidewalls, all of which
improves longevity and reduces trailer sway.

On Apr 1, 7:31*am, W1TEF wrote:
On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 06:09:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:





On Apr 1, 6:30 am, W1TEF wrote:
On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 05:11:13 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

U don't know the stock weight of either but will find out, though. .

Is the trailer tandem axle?

Yessir, it is. *And I wish I could put 15 inchers on it, but that
woudl probably make the whole rig sit too high.

What's the amtter with using car tires any how? * I had a '74 Caddy
Sedan DeVille Brogham which weighed about *5800lb, and it had car
tires.

What's so magic about trailer tires anyhow?

I'm not exactly sure about this because I'm going on memory, but the
difference is in sidewall ratings and construction. *Car tires have
more bend and flex in the sidewalls vs trailer tires which have very
little to no side wall flex. *It's the same with LT (light truck)
tires vs passenger car tires - the sidewall load factor.

For example, I have Firestone ten ply, high pressure tires on the
F-150 rather than the lower profile Goodrich AT type tire. *I get a
little rougher/stiffer ride, but their performance is much superior to
the low pressure radial LT tire - and I get better milage and wear out
of them.

A more flexible trailer tire will allow for more sway in the trailer
than a ST trailer tire. *More betterer safferer...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

10 plys on a ford 150???


Why dont you put rubber treads on a B&O box car rim. That would be the
same effect wouldn't it?

?;^ Q

Tim wrote:
On Apr 1, 6:30 am, W1TEF wrote:
On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 05:11:13 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

U don't know the stock weight of either but will find out, though. .
Is the trailer tandem axle?

Yessir, it is. And I wish I could put 15 inchers on it, but that
woudl probably make the whole rig sit too high.


What's the amtter with using car tires any how? I had a '74 Caddy
Sedan DeVille Brogham which weighed about 5800lb, and it had car
tires.

What's so magic about trailer tires anyhow?

You'd peel car tires right off the rim with a tandom trailer. The
sidewalls are too flexible.

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 05:11:13 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

How heavy is the boat/trailer combination?

U don't know the stock weight of either but will find out, though. .

Best bet is to find someone local with a truck scale and weigh it as
you actually have it now, perhaps at a scrap metal dealer. Boats
usually end up considerably over stock weight.

When I need a trailer weighed I head to the local rock quarry, they have
a scale there and the guy will weigh your boat if you bring him an egg
mcmuffin or similar

Scotty

--
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On Apr 1, 7:20*am, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 06:09:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

What's the amtter with using car tires any how? * I had a '74 Caddy
Sedan DeVille Brogham which weighed about *5800lb, and it had car
tires.

What's so magic about trailer tires anyhow?

Trailer tires are usually designed for higher inflation pressure which
helps them run cooler and stiffens up the sidewalls, all of which
improves longevity and reduces trailer sway.

Wayne, I can sort of understand what you mean by trailer sway, but a
lot of trailers are using radials now which sway too.


But I know what you're saying.

"Tim" wrote in message
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On Mar 31, 9:42 pm, "Bill McKee" wrote:
"W1TEF" wrote in message

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On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:06:32 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

My local mechanic guy also sells tires, and he's good with a wrench.
I've put it off for so long, but now it's time to do something about
the tires. they're B78x13 and when I called him to tell him the size
number he imediatly said that size is hard to come by. Not necessarily
saying they are super rare, but they're not a popular size. So he did
some calling and shopping around and said he could get them for about
59.00 a piece x 4. But he told me the brand name which happens to be
"Carlisle" , and I remember from past discussions that Carlisle's had
mixed reviews, Some say they wear like indeffinately, some say they're
prone to blow outs.

These are a 6 ply tire that my mechanic was talking about and I'm not
sure if they're a radial or a bias-ply , but Now I'm a bit hesitant
about using that brand.

Any thoughts?

The direct replacement tire is ST175/80R13 and they are available in
Goodyear Marathons for $65 out of Sam's Club. Don't know about any
other tire distributor.

I'd only use Marathons - I've used them for years on various trailers
and have never had any problems with them at all.

I had Carlisle's and I join the rant. 5 blowouts in 2 years and one ready
to blowout when the other tire on that side blowout. 2nd tire is
separating
as I look at it. If you can fit 14" go with those. Lots more load carrying
capacity.

I'll see if I can go with 14's. raising the trailer fenders gets
close to the hull of the boat but I'll look into it, and also check
the axle spacing to see if it can be done. That's where stuff might
become critical. And if anything else I'll check into the Marathons.
It sounds to me like Carlisle's aren't doing it.

I use Towmasters from Les Schawb tires here in the west. for the last
trailer. Actually do not know what is on the new trailer. 15" and have
towed the trailer about 2000 miles with no problems.