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Where should the focus be - the problems or the solutions?
On Apr 2, 6:42*am, hk wrote:
On 4/1/10 8:37 PM, Eisboch wrote: "I am *wrote in message ... I think the part of service that folks don't take into account is you have signed on the dotted to take or even, give a life at any time, when called upon to do it... Scotty I *did*? Holy Crap! Eisboch So do firemen, police, schoolteachers, et cetera. -- Conservatives - just pretend Obama's health care legislation is another unnecessary war and you'll feel better about it. Wrong again, Krause. |
#52
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Where should the focus be - the problems or the solutions?
On 4/2/10 7:53 AM, TopBassDog wrote:
On Apr 2, 6:42 am, wrote: On 4/1/10 8:37 PM, Eisboch wrote: "I am wrote in message ... I think the part of service that folks don't take into account is you have signed on the dotted to take or even, give a life at any time, when called upon to do it... Scotty I *did*? Holy Crap! Eisboch So do firemen, police, schoolteachers, et cetera. -- Conservatives - just pretend Obama's health care legislation is another unnecessary war and you'll feel better about it. Wrong again, Krause. Well, firemen and schoolteachers usually aren't in the business of taking lives, eh? -- http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym |
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Where should the focus be - the problems or the solutions?
hk wrote:
On 4/1/10 8:37 PM, Eisboch wrote: "I am wrote in message ... I think the part of service that folks don't take into account is you have signed on the dotted to take or even, give a life at any time, when called upon to do it... Scotty I *did*? Holy Crap! Eisboch So do firemen, police, schoolteachers, et cetera. How about jingle writers? What do they sign up for? |
#54
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Where should the focus be - the problems or the solutions?
On Apr 1, 3:24*pm, hk wrote:
On 4/1/10 9:28 AM, John H wrote: On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 08:26:54 -0400, *wrote: *wrote in message news:beWdnbBrIaRtFinWnZ2dnUVZ_uidnZ2d@earthlink. com... On 4/1/10 7:47 AM, Eisboch wrote: * wrote in message news:roidnTVrQJFLHynWnZ2dnUVZ_umdnZ2d@earthlin k.com... How's that surgery of the week doing for ya, Johnny Boy? Kinda cuts down on hopey-changey for you, eh? Got that surgical suite booked for your next "incident"? Oh...I read the post under question for "content." The content was easy...it was just a restatement of the usual conservative's "I've got mine, so **** you." Let's see here ... John earned his for him and his family by fulfilling a 20+ year contract with the US military serving at the pleasure at several US Presidents. You earn yours by keeping your union dues paid up to date. Who sacrificed more for his? Eisboch Not the point. It's the "I've got mine, so **** you" attitude of his. And what sacrifice? Herring was in the military voluntarily. I don't know when John entered military service. *I think he's of the same vintage as you and I, and I know I entered "voluntarily" *to avoid entering "involuntarily". * He may not have been so lucky. I don't know. Once in, many decide to make it a career. *Reasons vary per the individual. I didn't make it a full career with retirement benefits, but I did nine years to "pay" for educational programs that were offered. Everyone makes their way through life in their own way. *To do so responsibly, honestly, raising a family and providing for them is key, not what your title or social status is to others. You want sacrifice, consider a factory worker who spends 20 years on the job and is pink-slipped, losing health care and quite probably a good chunk of pension benefits. Maybe they should have joined the Army. * *Just kidding. *But that said, it does raise a point. For some, military or government careers provide the financial and retirement benefits that many seek. * Whats wrong with that? * The bulk of the US Senate does the same thing. *Career politicians with decent salaries, fantastic benefits and huge expense accounts. *Talk about milking the system. Eisboch John was drafted. John had no college education and no money to get one.. The Army provided the means to do so. But, for every carrot the Army offers, there is a stick. For each year of college, the Army charged two years of service. For promotions, other schools, etc, the Army has a charge. Eventually it's stupid to get out before retirement. -- John H Especially, if, like you, you have no real marketable skills, eh? --http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The voice of experience speaks... |
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Where should the focus be - the problems or the solutions?
On Apr 2, 7:02*am, hk wrote:
On 4/2/10 7:53 AM, TopBassDog wrote: On Apr 2, 6:42 am, *wrote: On 4/1/10 8:37 PM, Eisboch wrote: "I am * *wrote in message ... I think the part of service that folks don't take into account is you have signed on the dotted to take or even, give a life at any time, when called upon to do it... Scotty I *did*? Holy Crap! Eisboch So do firemen, police, schoolteachers, et cetera. -- Conservatives - just pretend Obama's health care legislation is another unnecessary war and you'll feel better about it. Wrong again, Krause. Well, firemen and schoolteachers usually aren't in the business of taking lives, eh? --http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym Herr Krause. Here does a school teacher sign a contract to lay down their lives, if necessary, for the protection of others? |
#56
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Where should the focus be - the problems or the solutions?
On Fri, 02 Apr 2010 07:42:17 -0400, hk wrote:
On 4/1/10 8:37 PM, Eisboch wrote: "I am wrote in message ... I think the part of service that folks don't take into account is you have signed on the dotted to take or even, give a life at any time, when called upon to do it... Scotty I *did*? Holy Crap! Eisboch So do firemen, police, schoolteachers, et cetera. Great people all. -- John H For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v |
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Where should the focus be - the problems or the solutions?
On Apr 2, 7:18*am, TopBassDog wrote:
On Apr 2, 7:02*am, hk wrote: On 4/2/10 7:53 AM, TopBassDog wrote: On Apr 2, 6:42 am, *wrote: On 4/1/10 8:37 PM, Eisboch wrote: "I am * *wrote in message ... I think the part of service that folks don't take into account is you have signed on the dotted to take or even, give a life at any time, when called upon to do it... Scotty I *did*? Holy Crap! Eisboch So do firemen, police, schoolteachers, et cetera. -- Conservatives - just pretend Obama's health care legislation is another unnecessary war and you'll feel better about it. Wrong again, Krause. Well, firemen and schoolteachers usually aren't in the business of taking lives, eh? --http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym Herr Krause. Here does a school teacher sign a contract to lay down their lives, if necessary, for the protection of others? "Here" should have been "Where" My apologies |
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Where should the focus be - the problems or the solutions?
"TopBassDog" wrote in message
... On Apr 1, 1:56 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "anon-e-moose" wrote in message ... nom=de=plume wrote: "Eisboch" wrote in message om... "hk" wrote in message news:beWdnbBrIaRtFinWnZ2dnUVZ_uidnZ2d@earthlink .com... On 4/1/10 7:47 AM, Eisboch wrote: wrote in message news:roidnTVrQJFLHynWnZ2dnUVZ_umdnZ2d@earthli nk.com... How's that surgery of the week doing for ya, Johnny Boy? Kinda cuts down on hopey-changey for you, eh? Got that surgical suite booked for your next "incident"? Oh...I read the post under question for "content." The content was easy...it was just a restatement of the usual conservative's "I've got mine, so **** you." Let's see here ... John earned his for him and his family by fulfilling a 20+ year contract with the US military serving at the pleasure at several US Presidents. You earn yours by keeping your union dues paid up to date. Who sacrificed more for his? Eisboch Not the point. It's the "I've got mine, so **** you" attitude of his. And what sacrifice? Herring was in the military voluntarily. I don't know when John entered military service. I think he's of the same vintage as you and I, and I know I entered "voluntarily" to avoid entering "involuntarily". He may not have been so lucky. I don't know. Once in, many decide to make it a career. Reasons vary per the individual. I didn't make it a full career with retirement benefits, but I did nine years to "pay" for educational programs that were offered. Everyone makes their way through life in their own way. To do so responsibly, honestly, raising a family and providing for them is key, not what your title or social status is to others. You want sacrifice, consider a factory worker who spends 20 years on the job and is pink-slipped, losing health care and quite probably a good chunk of pension benefits. Maybe they should have joined the Army. Just kidding. But that said, it does raise a point. For some, military or government careers provide the financial and retirement benefits that many seek. Whats wrong with that? The bulk of the US Senate does the same thing. Career politicians with decent salaries, fantastic benefits and huge expense accounts. Talk about milking the system. Eisboch Which is nice for both of you, but you didn't address hk's point, which is that he's basically saying he's got his and he doesn't care about anyone else. Harry is full of ****e. If you want to address Harry, be my guest. I sense that you are too afraid of him to engage him though. Full of it or not, he made a valid point, which hasn't been addressed. Looks like you're not going to address it either. Why is that typical... -- Nom=de=Plume Keep spinning D'Plume. You're proven you're not average some time ago. But it doesn't hurt to show you are maintaining your selective competence levels. You would know about incompetence! -- Nom=de=Plume |
#59
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Where should the focus be - the problems or the solutions?
"Eisboch" wrote in message
... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... Nothing wrong with personal responsibility. There's a lot wrong with his attitude about others. As I said, look it up. -- Nom=de=Plume Sorry. I don't play that game. You made the accusations. Back them up. Eisboch I already did. I'm sorry if you're unable to figure it out. You've been here longer than I and should know. -- Nom=de=Plume |
#60
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Where should the focus be - the problems or the solutions?
"TopBassDog" wrote in message
... Which is nice for both of you, but you didn't address hk's point, which is that he's basically saying he's got his and he doesn't care about anyone else. -- Nom=de=Plume For hk, that would be a correct assumption. Now it is addressed. For you, it would be an ass. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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