Boat weight distribution..
 

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:09:08 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

OK, so I'm trying to get everything in order with my 23' Marquis and
put some creature comforts in it. I plan on using a battery isolator
and I'd thought of installing an 8-D battery, but there goes about 130
lb.s in one solid chunk, so I'm opting for a couple or three extra car
batteries which will add up to about the same weight if not a bit
more, but I can distribute them around the hull for a better balance.
Plus, I'm taking a friends Min Kota 24 v. troller for 'emergency use'
in case something might happen to the engine or drive. Therefore I can
switch a couple batteries around into series to make 24 for the
troller. It won't be much but it might help us to make it into
somewhere or out of the way of something heavy if need be.

I have a Nord refrigerator that got taken out of a camper that runs
on 12v.or 120vac. I bought it for cold drinking water, juice etc. and
it was cheap enough. OK so there's another 50lbs.. Plus I'm adding
about 6 -12 gal. of fresh water in a plastic canister like for an
outboard gas tank which will be supplied by an electric pump to a
hand held shower head. I figure I'm adding about 300 + lb of extra
gear to an already heavy hull, (Not counting anchor) but the boat
has a weight load on the spec tag of 950 lb.

Now I'm trying o figure out the best weight distribution formulas to
make it easier on the boat concerning handling, fuel economy (Proper
prop and trim tabs comes next) etc.

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention I'm thinking on adding an extra 10 gallon
fuel tank out of a derelict boat I stripped out for parts.

And with all that , plus the wife and myself, I'm figuring to still be
under the weight limit on the boat.

How long are you planning to be out for one trip? A good cooler will keep stuff
cold for four or five days, and weigh a lot less than 50 pounds (empty).

I have great coolers and they are good for a day and a half maybe unless
you keep filling the ice. I don't know where you use your coolers but I
am out in 95 degree sun and very little shade in the summer, kind of
like in a boat;)

Scotty

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Boat weight distribution..
 

In article bc0512fe-d20e-4f71-b23d-
, says...

On Mar 30, 9:41*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:59:16 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

John, that's to be determined yet. possibly 200 miles and maybe 3-4
days. In another thread I brought this up about using dry ice in a
cooler, because to me it's repulsive to have food stuffs float around
in ice water even if you use those little resealable containers.and
I've found out from in the past that if the upper part of the
container is exposed to air in the cooler it's not really cold.

One of our hurricane tricks is to stuff the freezer with bottles of
water before the show, then you have mass that takes a long time to
thaw out, when the power goes out. That gives you plenty of "cold" and
when they melt you still have bottles of water. These bottles are also
great in a cooler for all the same reasons. You also don't have that
slimy water sloshing around. You can put your perishables in the
bottom and stack the frozen bottles on top.

Excellent idea Greg. I had previously thought of that, only
experimenting with half gal. jugs.to line the top of a cooler. I've
also got a bunch of ice substitute freeze blocks.

If you're drinking or otherwise using the water, go with that.
I've read the freezable chemicals can absorb more heat, but never
noticed a difference in actual use.

Boat weight distribution..
 

On Mar 31, 5:11*am, Peter Prick wrote:
In article bc0512fe-d20e-4f71-b23d-
, says...







On Mar 30, 9:41 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:59:16 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

John, that's to be determined yet. possibly 200 miles and maybe 3-4
days. In another thread I brought this up about using dry ice in a
cooler, because to me it's repulsive to have food stuffs float around
in ice water even if you use those little resealable containers.and
I've found out from in the past that if the upper part of the
container is exposed to air in the cooler it's not really cold.

One of our hurricane tricks is to stuff the freezer with bottles of
water before the show, then you have mass that takes a long time to
thaw out, when the power goes out. That gives you plenty of "cold" and
when they melt you still have bottles of water. These bottles are also
great in a cooler for all the same reasons. You also don't have that
slimy water sloshing around. You can put your perishables in the
bottom and stack the frozen bottles on top.

Excellent idea Greg. I had previously thought of that, only
experimenting with half gal. jugs.to line the top of a cooler. I've
also got a bunch of ice substitute freeze blocks.

If you're drinking or otherwise using the water, go with that.
I've read the freezable chemicals can absorb more heat, but never
noticed a difference in actual use.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Same here. They are compact and from what I've noticed is they do last
a bit longer than regular ice. so I suppose it would be good to put
them in the bottom of the cooler and as Greg suggested put the
perishables in the center then top the cooler with either more ice
packs or botles of frozen water.

Boat weight distribution..
 

On 3/31/10 7:43 AM, Tim wrote:
On Mar 31, 5:11 am, Peter wrote:
In articlebc0512fe-d20e-4f71-b23d-
, says...







On Mar 30, 9:41 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:59:16 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

John, that's to be determined yet. possibly 200 miles and maybe 3-4
days. In another thread I brought this up about using dry ice in a
cooler, because to me it's repulsive to have food stuffs float around
in ice water even if you use those little resealable containers.and
I've found out from in the past that if the upper part of the
container is exposed to air in the cooler it's not really cold.

One of our hurricane tricks is to stuff the freezer with bottles of
water before the show, then you have mass that takes a long time to
thaw out, when the power goes out. That gives you plenty of "cold" and
when they melt you still have bottles of water. These bottles are also
great in a cooler for all the same reasons. You also don't have that
slimy water sloshing around. You can put your perishables in the
bottom and stack the frozen bottles on top.

Excellent idea Greg. I had previously thought of that, only
experimenting with half gal. jugs.to line the top of a cooler. I've
also got a bunch of ice substitute freeze blocks.

If you're drinking or otherwise using the water, go with that.
I've read the freezable chemicals can absorb more heat, but never
noticed a difference in actual use.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Same here. They are compact and from what I've noticed is they do last
a bit longer than regular ice. so I suppose it would be good to put
them in the bottom of the cooler and as Greg suggested put the
perishables in the center then top the cooler with either more ice
packs or botles of frozen water.

Are you planning trips of many days duration?

My igloo coolers will keep ice and keep food fresh for a few days, even
in our 90F heat here in the summer.





--
http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym

Boat weight distribution..
 

On Mar 31, 5:45*am, hk wrote:
On 3/31/10 7:43 AM, Tim wrote:





On Mar 31, 5:11 am, Peter *wrote:
In articlebc0512fe-d20e-4f71-b23d-
, says....

On Mar 30, 9:41 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:59:16 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

John, that's to be determined yet. possibly 200 miles and maybe 3-4
days. In another thread I brought this up about using dry ice in a
cooler, because to me it's repulsive to have food stuffs float around
in ice water even if you use those little resealable containers.and
I've found out from in the past that if the upper part of the
container is exposed to air in the cooler it's not really cold.

One of our hurricane tricks is to stuff the freezer with bottles of
water before the show, then you have mass that takes a long time to
thaw out, when the power goes out. That gives you plenty of "cold" and
when they melt you still have bottles of water. These bottles are also
great in a cooler for all the same reasons. You also don't have that
slimy water sloshing around. You can put your perishables in the
bottom and stack the frozen bottles on top.

Excellent idea Greg. I had previously thought of that, only
experimenting with half gal. jugs.to line the top of a cooler. I've
also got a bunch of ice substitute freeze blocks.

If you're drinking or otherwise using the water, go with that.
I've read the freezable chemicals can absorb more heat, but never
noticed a difference in actual use.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Same here. They are compact and from what I've noticed is they do last
a bit longer than regular ice. so I suppose it would be good to put
them in the bottom of the cooler and as Greg suggested put the
perishables in the center then top the cooler with either more ice
packs or botles of frozen water.

Are you planning trips of many days duration?

My igloo coolers will keep ice and keep food fresh for a few days, even
in our 90F heat here in the summer.

--http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Harry, the trip we're planning may be for about 3or maybe 4 days, but
as I mentioned before. The length of the trip is determined by the
weight of the credit card.

?;^ )

Boat weight distribution..
 

On 3/31/10 7:52 AM, Tim wrote:
On Mar 31, 5:45 am, wrote:
On 3/31/10 7:43 AM, Tim wrote:





On Mar 31, 5:11 am, Peter wrote:
In articlebc0512fe-d20e-4f71-b23d-
, says...

On Mar 30, 9:41 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:59:16 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

John, that's to be determined yet. possibly 200 miles and maybe 3-4
days. In another thread I brought this up about using dry ice in a
cooler, because to me it's repulsive to have food stuffs float around
in ice water even if you use those little resealable containers.and
I've found out from in the past that if the upper part of the
container is exposed to air in the cooler it's not really cold.

One of our hurricane tricks is to stuff the freezer with bottles of
water before the show, then you have mass that takes a long time to
thaw out, when the power goes out. That gives you plenty of "cold" and
when they melt you still have bottles of water. These bottles are also
great in a cooler for all the same reasons. You also don't have that
slimy water sloshing around. You can put your perishables in the
bottom and stack the frozen bottles on top.

Excellent idea Greg. I had previously thought of that, only
experimenting with half gal. jugs.to line the top of a cooler. I've
also got a bunch of ice substitute freeze blocks.

If you're drinking or otherwise using the water, go with that.
I've read the freezable chemicals can absorb more heat, but never
noticed a difference in actual use.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Same here. They are compact and from what I've noticed is they do last
a bit longer than regular ice. so I suppose it would be good to put
them in the bottom of the cooler and as Greg suggested put the
perishables in the center then top the cooler with either more ice
packs or botles of frozen water.

Are you planning trips of many days duration?

My igloo coolers will keep ice and keep food fresh for a few days, even
in our 90F heat here in the summer.

--http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Harry, the trip we're planning may be for about 3or maybe 4 days, but
as I mentioned before. The length of the trip is determined by the
weight of the credit card.

?;^ )


Well, then, I think you are making this more complicated than it need
be. If you are traveling and paying your way with plastic, that means
you're going to be docking...and almost every place you might dock and
use a credit card sells...guess what...ICE!

I can't recall a commercial dock/marina I've visited that didn't have
ice for sale on the premises, or at a store within a very short walking
radius.



--
http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym

Boat weight distribution..
 

On Mar 31, 6:08*am, hk wrote:
On 3/31/10 7:52 AM, Tim wrote:





On Mar 31, 5:45 am, *wrote:
On 3/31/10 7:43 AM, Tim wrote:

On Mar 31, 5:11 am, Peter * *wrote:
In articlebc0512fe-d20e-4f71-b23d-
, says....

On Mar 30, 9:41 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:59:16 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

John, that's to be determined yet. possibly 200 miles and maybe 3-4
days. In another thread I brought this up about using dry ice in a
cooler, because to me it's repulsive to have food stuffs float around
in ice water even if you use those little resealable containers.and
I've found out from in the past that if the upper part of the
container is exposed to air in the cooler it's not really cold.

One of our hurricane tricks is to stuff the freezer with bottles of
water before the show, then you have mass that takes a long time to
thaw out, when the power goes out. That gives you plenty of "cold" and
when they melt you still have bottles of water. These bottles are also
great in a cooler for all the same reasons. You also don't have that
slimy water sloshing around. You can put your perishables in the
bottom and stack the frozen bottles on top.

Excellent idea Greg. I had previously thought of that, only
experimenting with half gal. jugs.to line the top of a cooler. I've
also got a bunch of ice substitute freeze blocks.

If you're drinking or otherwise using the water, go with that.
I've read the freezable chemicals can absorb more heat, but never
noticed a difference in actual use.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Same here. They are compact and from what I've noticed is they do last
a bit longer than regular ice. so I suppose it would be good to put
them in the bottom of the cooler and as Greg suggested put the
perishables in the center then top the cooler with either more ice
packs or botles of frozen water.

Are you planning trips of many days duration?

My igloo coolers will keep ice and keep food fresh for a few days, even
in our 90F heat here in the summer.

--http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym-Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Harry, the trip we're planning may be for about 3or maybe 4 days, but
as I mentioned before. The length of the trip is determined by the
weight of the credit card.

?;^ )

Well, then, I think you are making this more complicated than it need
be. If you are traveling and paying your way with plastic, that means
you're going to be docking...and almost every place you might dock and
use a credit card sells...guess what...ICE!

I can't recall a commercial dock/marina I've visited that didn't have
ice for sale on the premises, or at a store within a very short walking
radius.

--http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

True. and knowing the wife. Well, I'm thinking I know the wife she'll
object to sleeping ont he boat and want a motel and resteraunt
somewhere along the line. That's why I thought it was odd that she of
all people would suggest carying water in milk jugs.


go figgah!

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"Tim" wrote in message
...
On Mar 30, 3:28 pm, hk wrote:
On 3/30/10 4:02 PM, Tim wrote:

Yeah, I ahve some jerry cans but they're to heavy, but I couldn't
believe it when the wife said we could carry some fresh water in
gallon milk jugs (huh?) but sounds good to me.

Plastic milk jugs are made of very thin-walled plastic, and can't take
much of a hit before they puncture. Why not buy two six packs of one
pint water bottles, save the bottles as you drink the water, and then
wash them off and refill them?

My little Parker has a 20 or 25 gallon insulated baitwell under the
pedestal seats. But when I have live bait, I keep it in a separate
baitwell, which means the bigger baitwell is available for use as a
cooler. I dump a couple bags of ice in it and stow drinks in it. At the
end of the day, I simply pull the unopened drinks out and let the
baitwell drain on its own accord. I keep my refilled water bottles in
there.

I also have a few igloo coolers of various sizes, and typically take one
of the smaller ones aboard for food storage.

--http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym

Well that's what I was thinking about the milk jugs. And really I was
surprised that she mentioned it, because it really seemed below her
order of things to offer the suggestion. Plus, the idea is to keep the
interior as un- cluttered ans possible. That's why I'm thinking on
going with a couple of thin line 5 gal. heavy plastic containers with
either an electric or air pump and using a shower nozzle for supply.

Yes, keep the drinking water in the cooler!

--------

We freeze gallon jugs of juice and milk for camping and boating trips (also
chicken and meat) and use this to keep other (non frozen) foods cold. We use
everything as it thaws and this saves on ice and cuts out the water pooling
in the bottom of the coolers..

Boat weight distribution..
 

On Mar 31, 6:08*am, hk wrote:
On 3/31/10 7:52 AM, Tim wrote:





On Mar 31, 5:45 am, *wrote:
On 3/31/10 7:43 AM, Tim wrote:

On Mar 31, 5:11 am, Peter * *wrote:
In articlebc0512fe-d20e-4f71-b23d-
, says....

On Mar 30, 9:41 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:59:16 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

John, that's to be determined yet. possibly 200 miles and maybe 3-4
days. In another thread I brought this up about using dry ice in a
cooler, because to me it's repulsive to have food stuffs float around
in ice water even if you use those little resealable containers.and
I've found out from in the past that if the upper part of the
container is exposed to air in the cooler it's not really cold.

One of our hurricane tricks is to stuff the freezer with bottles of
water before the show, then you have mass that takes a long time to
thaw out, when the power goes out. That gives you plenty of "cold" and
when they melt you still have bottles of water. These bottles are also
great in a cooler for all the same reasons. You also don't have that
slimy water sloshing around. You can put your perishables in the
bottom and stack the frozen bottles on top.

Excellent idea Greg. I had previously thought of that, only
experimenting with half gal. jugs.to line the top of a cooler. I've
also got a bunch of ice substitute freeze blocks.

If you're drinking or otherwise using the water, go with that.
I've read the freezable chemicals can absorb more heat, but never
noticed a difference in actual use.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Same here. They are compact and from what I've noticed is they do last
a bit longer than regular ice. so I suppose it would be good to put
them in the bottom of the cooler and as Greg suggested put the
perishables in the center then top the cooler with either more ice
packs or botles of frozen water.

Are you planning trips of many days duration?

My igloo coolers will keep ice and keep food fresh for a few days, even
in our 90F heat here in the summer.

--http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym-Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Harry, the trip we're planning may be for about 3or maybe 4 days, but
as I mentioned before. The length of the trip is determined by the
weight of the credit card.

?;^ )

Well, then, I think you are making this more complicated than it need
be. If you are traveling and paying your way with plastic, that means
you're going to be docking...and almost every place you might dock and
use a credit card sells...guess what...ICE!

But actually Harry, that's what I'm wanting to get away from, is using
ICE. I'm not really objecting to it, I would jsut rather not if I can
ge3t by without it.

Boat weight distribution..
 

"I am Tosk" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:09:08 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

OK, so I'm trying to get everything in order with my 23' Marquis and
put some creature comforts in it. I plan on using a battery isolator
and I'd thought of installing an 8-D battery, but there goes about 130
lb.s in one solid chunk, so I'm opting for a couple or three extra car
batteries which will add up to about the same weight if not a bit
more, but I can distribute them around the hull for a better balance.
Plus, I'm taking a friends Min Kota 24 v. troller for 'emergency use'
in case something might happen to the engine or drive. Therefore I can
switch a couple batteries around into series to make 24 for the
troller. It won't be much but it might help us to make it into
somewhere or out of the way of something heavy if need be.

I have a Nord refrigerator that got taken out of a camper that runs
on 12v.or 120vac. I bought it for cold drinking water, juice etc. and
it was cheap enough. OK so there's another 50lbs.. Plus I'm adding
about 6 -12 gal. of fresh water in a plastic canister like for an
outboard gas tank which will be supplied by an electric pump to a
hand held shower head. I figure I'm adding about 300 + lb of extra
gear to an already heavy hull, (Not counting anchor) but the boat
has a weight load on the spec tag of 950 lb.

Now I'm trying o figure out the best weight distribution formulas to
make it easier on the boat concerning handling, fuel economy (Proper
prop and trim tabs comes next) etc.

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention I'm thinking on adding an extra 10 gallon
fuel tank out of a derelict boat I stripped out for parts.

And with all that , plus the wife and myself, I'm figuring to still be
under the weight limit on the boat.

How long are you planning to be out for one trip? A good cooler will keep
stuff
cold for four or five days, and weigh a lot less than 50 pounds (empty).

I have great coolers and they are good for a day and a half maybe unless
you keep filling the ice. I don't know where you use your coolers but I
am out in 95 degree sun and very little shade in the summer, kind of
like in a boat;)

Scotty

--
For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v

Scotty,
Ever use one of those folding canopies? If there is room at the track, these
things are great for keeping people and coolers - cooler than sitting in
direct sun.
We use one anytime we're at an outdoor event (like birthday parties at the
beach) and it's a life saver. Ours has the folding frame and rollup screen
walls to keep the bugs out in the evenings.