| Page 1 of 2 | 1 | 2 |
|
|
Boat weight distribution..
OK, so I'm trying to get everything in order with my 23' Marquis and
put some creature comforts in it. I plan on using a battery isolator and I'd thought of installing an 8-D battery, but there goes about 130 lb.s in one solid chunk, so I'm opting for a couple or three extra car batteries which will add up to about the same weight if not a bit more, but I can distribute them around the hull for a better balance. Plus, I'm taking a friends Min Kota 24 v. troller for 'emergency use' in case something might happen to the engine or drive. Therefore I can switch a couple batteries around into series to make 24 for the troller. It won't be much but it might help us to make it into somewhere or out of the way of something heavy if need be. I have a Nord refrigerator that got taken out of a camper that runs on 12v.or 120vac. I bought it for cold drinking water, juice etc. and it was cheap enough. OK so there's another 50lbs.. Plus I'm adding about 6 -12 gal. of fresh water in a plastic canister like for an outboard gas tank which will be supplied by an electric pump to a hand held shower head. I figure I'm adding about 300 + lb of extra gear to an already heavy hull, (Not counting anchor) but the boat has a weight load on the spec tag of 950 lb. Now I'm trying o figure out the best weight distribution formulas to make it easier on the boat concerning handling, fuel economy (Proper prop and trim tabs comes next) etc. Oh yeah, I forgot to mention I'm thinking on adding an extra 10 gallon fuel tank out of a derelict boat I stripped out for parts. And with all that , plus the wife and myself, I'm figuring to still be under the weight limit on the boat. |
Boat weight distribution..
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:09:08 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: I plan on using a battery isolator and I'd thought of installing an 8-D battery A couple of 6 volt golf cart batteries in series will give you almost as much capacity and are much easier to handle. You can also split them up for better weight distribution. |
Boat weight distribution..
On Mar 29, 9:06*pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:09:08 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: I plan on using a battery isolator and I'd thought of installing an 8-D battery A couple of 6 volt golf cart batteries in series will give you almost as much capacity and are much easier to handle. *You can also split them up for better weight distribution. I've thought about that Wayne. GCt batteries are suppose to be a 'slow charge' battery, but i ran a 'trolling motor' battery in my loaded out '75 Pontiac GrandVille for a couple years with no problems, so I'd thought of going with the GCt batteries, but I dont' have much use foe 6v's in anything after this fall. So I'm actually opting for car batteries themselves, after all, by that time I'll have a couple of tractors that the batteries are junk so the 12v's will still get used this winter. But then again.... decisions decisions..... |
Boat weight distribution..
On Mar 29, 9:45*pm, Tim wrote:
On Mar 29, 9:06*pm, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:09:08 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: I plan on using a battery isolator and I'd thought of installing an 8-D battery A couple of 6 volt golf cart batteries in series will give you almost as much capacity and are much easier to handle. *You can also split them up for better weight distribution. I've thought about that Wayne. GCt batteries are suppose to be a 'slow charge' battery, but i ran a 'trolling motor' battery in my loaded out '75 Pontiac GrandVille for a couple years with no problems, so I'd thought of going with the GCt batteries, but I dont' have much use foe 6v's in anything after this fall. So I'm actually opting for car batteries themselves, after all, by that time I'll have a couple of tractors that the batteries are junk so the 12v's will still get used this winter. But then again.... decisions decisions..... This week, the weather is supposed to be extremely nice and in sunny mid 70's and I'm going to dig the beast out. and start cleaning on it. my expert carpenter "Jimmy" is coming to look at it to discuss possibilities on where to put stuff and how to build around it, so it will be presentable, yet functional and won't look like some dump truck. |
Boat weight distribution..
"Tim" wrote in message ... OK, so I'm trying to get everything in order with my 23' Marquis and put some creature comforts in it. I plan on using a battery isolator and I'd thought of installing an 8-D battery, but there goes about 130 lb.s in one solid chunk, so I'm opting for a couple or three extra car batteries which will add up to about the same weight if not a bit more, but I can distribute them around the hull for a better balance. Plus, I'm taking a friends Min Kota 24 v. troller for 'emergency use' in case something might happen to the engine or drive. Therefore I can switch a couple batteries around into series to make 24 for the troller. It won't be much but it might help us to make it into somewhere or out of the way of something heavy if need be. I have a Nord refrigerator that got taken out of a camper that runs on 12v.or 120vac. I bought it for cold drinking water, juice etc. and it was cheap enough. OK so there's another 50lbs.. Plus I'm adding about 6 -12 gal. of fresh water in a plastic canister like for an outboard gas tank which will be supplied by an electric pump to a hand held shower head. I figure I'm adding about 300 + lb of extra gear to an already heavy hull, (Not counting anchor) but the boat has a weight load on the spec tag of 950 lb. Now I'm trying o figure out the best weight distribution formulas to make it easier on the boat concerning handling, fuel economy (Proper prop and trim tabs comes next) etc. Oh yeah, I forgot to mention I'm thinking on adding an extra 10 gallon fuel tank out of a derelict boat I stripped out for parts. And with all that , plus the wife and myself, I'm figuring to still be under the weight limit on the boat. Brother Tim! Bless you for a real damn boating post! I'd skip the electric water pump. People are much more conservative if they have to work a little for the water and carrying 5 gallon jerry cans sucks. I have a manual pump for my galley and it really stretches my 20 gallon water tank and really like these for showers http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|51|26832|319660&id=566122 Buy 2, keeps the other person honest (only use her own), don't have to wait hours to reheat, and no moving parts! Sound like it's coming together! |
Boat weight distribution..
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:09:08 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
OK, so I'm trying to get everything in order with my 23' Marquis and put some creature comforts in it. I plan on using a battery isolator and I'd thought of installing an 8-D battery, but there goes about 130 lb.s in one solid chunk, so I'm opting for a couple or three extra car batteries which will add up to about the same weight if not a bit more, but I can distribute them around the hull for a better balance. Plus, I'm taking a friends Min Kota 24 v. troller for 'emergency use' in case something might happen to the engine or drive. Therefore I can switch a couple batteries around into series to make 24 for the troller. It won't be much but it might help us to make it into somewhere or out of the way of something heavy if need be. I have a Nord refrigerator that got taken out of a camper that runs on 12v.or 120vac. I bought it for cold drinking water, juice etc. and it was cheap enough. OK so there's another 50lbs.. Plus I'm adding about 6 -12 gal. of fresh water in a plastic canister like for an outboard gas tank which will be supplied by an electric pump to a hand held shower head. I figure I'm adding about 300 + lb of extra gear to an already heavy hull, (Not counting anchor) but the boat has a weight load on the spec tag of 950 lb. Now I'm trying o figure out the best weight distribution formulas to make it easier on the boat concerning handling, fuel economy (Proper prop and trim tabs comes next) etc. Oh yeah, I forgot to mention I'm thinking on adding an extra 10 gallon fuel tank out of a derelict boat I stripped out for parts. And with all that , plus the wife and myself, I'm figuring to still be under the weight limit on the boat. How long are you planning to be out for one trip? A good cooler will keep stuff cold for four or five days, and weigh a lot less than 50 pounds (empty). -- John H For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v |
Boat weight distribution..
On Mar 30, 1:21*pm, John H wrote:
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:09:08 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: OK, so I'm trying to get everything in order with my 23' Marquis and put some creature comforts in it. I plan on using a battery isolator and I'd thought of installing an 8-D battery, but there goes about 130 lb.s in one solid chunk, so I'm opting for a couple or three extra car batteries which will add up to about the same weight if not a bit more, *but I can distribute them around the hull for a better balance. Plus, I'm taking a friends Min Kota 24 v. troller for 'emergency use' in case something might happen to the engine or drive. Therefore I can switch a couple batteries around into series to make 24 for the troller. It won't be much but it might help us to make it into somewhere or out of the way of something heavy if need be. I have a Nord refrigerator that got taken out of a camper that runs on 12v.or 120vac. I bought it for cold drinking water, juice etc. and it was cheap enough. OK so there's another 50lbs.. Plus I'm adding about 6 -12 gal. of fresh water in a plastic canister like for an outboard gas tank which will be supplied by an *electric pump to a hand held shower head. *I figure I'm adding about 300 + *lb of extra gear to an already heavy hull, (Not counting anchor) *but the boat has a weight load *on the spec tag of 950 lb. Now *I'm trying o figure out the best weight distribution formulas to make it easier on the boat concerning handling, fuel economy (Proper prop and trim tabs *comes next) etc. Oh yeah, I forgot to mention I'm thinking on adding an extra 10 gallon fuel tank out of a derelict boat I stripped out for parts. And with all that , plus the wife and myself, I'm figuring to still be under the weight limit on the boat. How long are you planning to be out for one trip? A good cooler will keep stuff cold for four or five days, and weigh a lot less than 50 pounds (empty). -- John H For a great time, go here first...http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I moved my battery up to the front but it's not without it's flaws. The front takes a good deal more banging around and I've discovered that cheaper batteries won't tolerate it. You end up with a dead cell because the plates got knocked together. |
Boat weight distribution..
On Mar 30, 1:04*pm, jamesgangnc wrote:
On Mar 30, 1:21*pm, John H wrote: On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:09:08 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: OK, so I'm trying to get everything in order with my 23' Marquis and put some creature comforts in it. I plan on using a battery isolator and I'd thought of installing an 8-D battery, but there goes about 130 lb.s in one solid chunk, so I'm opting for a couple or three extra car batteries which will add up to about the same weight if not a bit more, *but I can distribute them around the hull for a better balance. Plus, I'm taking a friends Min Kota 24 v. troller for 'emergency use' in case something might happen to the engine or drive. Therefore I can switch a couple batteries around into series to make 24 for the troller. It won't be much but it might help us to make it into somewhere or out of the way of something heavy if need be. I have a Nord refrigerator that got taken out of a camper that runs on 12v.or 120vac. I bought it for cold drinking water, juice etc. and it was cheap enough. OK so there's another 50lbs.. Plus I'm adding about 6 -12 gal. of fresh water in a plastic canister like for an outboard gas tank which will be supplied by an *electric pump to a hand held shower head. *I figure I'm adding about 300 + *lb of extra gear to an already heavy hull, (Not counting anchor) *but the boat has a weight load *on the spec tag of 950 lb. Now *I'm trying o figure out the best weight distribution formulas to make it easier on the boat concerning handling, fuel economy (Proper prop and trim tabs *comes next) etc. Oh yeah, I forgot to mention I'm thinking on adding an extra 10 gallon fuel tank out of a derelict boat I stripped out for parts. And with all that , plus the wife and myself, I'm figuring to still be under the weight limit on the boat. How long are you planning to be out for one trip? A good cooler will keep stuff cold for four or five days, and weigh a lot less than 50 pounds (empty).. -- John H For a great time, go here first...http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v-Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I moved my battery up to the front but it's not without it's flaws. The front takes a good deal more banging around and I've discovered that cheaper batteries won't tolerate it. *You end up with a dead cell because the plates got knocked together.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I wasn't thinking on moving them all the way up. I want to leave my ngine battery where it is and at least move a couple auxillaries mid way. I'm thinking that keeping the majority of the weight in the center of the boat is the way to go, but it could cause too much of a nose weight for lower moderate speed planing. or at least that's my thoughts. |
Boat weight distribution..
On Mar 30, 11:21*am, John H wrote:
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:09:08 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: OK, so I'm trying to get everything in order with my 23' Marquis and put some creature comforts in it. I plan on using a battery isolator and I'd thought of installing an 8-D battery, but there goes about 130 lb.s in one solid chunk, so I'm opting for a couple or three extra car batteries which will add up to about the same weight if not a bit more, *but I can distribute them around the hull for a better balance. Plus, I'm taking a friends Min Kota 24 v. troller for 'emergency use' in case something might happen to the engine or drive. Therefore I can switch a couple batteries around into series to make 24 for the troller. It won't be much but it might help us to make it into somewhere or out of the way of something heavy if need be. I have a Nord refrigerator that got taken out of a camper that runs on 12v.or 120vac. I bought it for cold drinking water, juice etc. and it was cheap enough. OK so there's another 50lbs.. Plus I'm adding about 6 -12 gal. of fresh water in a plastic canister like for an outboard gas tank which will be supplied by an *electric pump to a hand held shower head. *I figure I'm adding about 300 + *lb of extra gear to an already heavy hull, (Not counting anchor) *but the boat has a weight load *on the spec tag of 950 lb. Now *I'm trying o figure out the best weight distribution formulas to make it easier on the boat concerning handling, fuel economy (Proper prop and trim tabs *comes next) etc. Oh yeah, I forgot to mention I'm thinking on adding an extra 10 gallon fuel tank out of a derelict boat I stripped out for parts. And with all that , plus the wife and myself, I'm figuring to still be under the weight limit on the boat. How long are you planning to be out for one trip? A good cooler will keep stuff cold for four or five days, and weigh a lot less than 50 pounds (empty). -- John H For a great time, go here first...http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - John, that's to be determined yet. possibly 200 miles and maybe 3-4 days. In another thread I brought this up about using dry ice in a cooler, because to me it's repulsive to have food stuffs float around in ice water even if you use those little resealable containers.and I've found out from in the past that if the upper part of the container is exposed to air in the cooler it's not really cold. |
Boat weight distribution..
On Mar 30, 9:26*am, "mmc" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message ... OK, so I'm trying to get everything in order with my 23' Marquis and put some creature comforts in it. I plan on using a battery isolator and I'd thought of installing an 8-D battery, but there goes about 130 lb.s in one solid chunk, so I'm opting for a couple or three extra car batteries which will add up to about the same weight if not a bit more, *but I can distribute them around the hull for a better balance.. Plus, I'm taking a friends Min Kota 24 v. troller for 'emergency use' in case something might happen to the engine or drive. Therefore I can switch a couple batteries around into series to make 24 for the troller. It won't be much but it might help us to make it into somewhere or out of the way of something heavy if need be. I have a Nord refrigerator that got taken out of a camper that runs on 12v.or 120vac. I bought it for cold drinking water, juice etc. and it was cheap enough. OK so there's another 50lbs.. Plus I'm adding about 6 -12 gal. of fresh water in a plastic canister like for an outboard gas tank which will be supplied by an *electric pump to a hand held shower head. *I figure I'm adding about 300 + *lb of extra gear to an already heavy hull, (Not counting anchor) *but the boat has a weight load *on the spec tag of 950 lb. Now *I'm trying o figure out the best weight distribution formulas to make it easier on the boat concerning handling, fuel economy (Proper prop and trim tabs *comes next) etc. Oh yeah, I forgot to mention I'm thinking on adding an extra 10 gallon fuel tank out of a derelict boat I stripped out for parts. And with all that , plus the wife and myself, I'm figuring to still be under the weight limit on the boat. Brother Tim! Bless you for a real damn boating post! That's all I try to do, man. It seems that boating posts should be in a boating newsgroup. ?;^ ) I'd skip the electric water pump. People are much more conservative if they have to work a little for the water and carrying 5 gallon jerry cans sucks. Yeah, I ahve some jerry cans but they're to heavy, but I couldn't believe it when the wife said we could carry some fresh water in gallon milk jugs (huh?) but sounds good to me. I have a manual pump for my galley and it really stretches my 20 gallon water tank and really like these for showershttp://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|51|26832|319660&id=566122 Buy 2, keeps the other person honest (only use her own), don't have to wait hours to reheat, and no moving parts! Sound like it's coming together!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Thanks for the encouragement. and all advice is taken into consideration. I'll be checking out the link when I get home. |
Boat weight distribution..
On Mar 30, 11:21*am, John H wrote:
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:09:08 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: OK, so I'm trying to get everything in order with my 23' Marquis and put some creature comforts in it. I plan on using a battery isolator and I'd thought of installing an 8-D battery, but there goes about 130 lb.s in one solid chunk, so I'm opting for a couple or three extra car batteries which will add up to about the same weight if not a bit more, *but I can distribute them around the hull for a better balance. Plus, I'm taking a friends Min Kota 24 v. troller for 'emergency use' in case something might happen to the engine or drive. Therefore I can switch a couple batteries around into series to make 24 for the troller. It won't be much but it might help us to make it into somewhere or out of the way of something heavy if need be. I have a Nord refrigerator that got taken out of a camper that runs on 12v.or 120vac. I bought it for cold drinking water, juice etc. and it was cheap enough. OK so there's another 50lbs.. Plus I'm adding about 6 -12 gal. of fresh water in a plastic canister like for an outboard gas tank which will be supplied by an *electric pump to a hand held shower head. *I figure I'm adding about 300 + *lb of extra gear to an already heavy hull, (Not counting anchor) *but the boat has a weight load *on the spec tag of 950 lb. Now *I'm trying o figure out the best weight distribution formulas to make it easier on the boat concerning handling, fuel economy (Proper prop and trim tabs *comes next) etc. Oh yeah, I forgot to mention I'm thinking on adding an extra 10 gallon fuel tank out of a derelict boat I stripped out for parts. And with all that , plus the wife and myself, I'm figuring to still be under the weight limit on the boat. How long are you planning to be out for one trip? A good cooler will keep stuff cold for four or five days, and weigh a lot less than 50 pounds (empty). -- John H For a great time, go here first...http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - John, the boat has 'captains' chairs in the front and the pilot side is ok, but we're thinking on pulling the port side chair and installing the fridge in it's own dedicatated and insulated cabinet under it then putting a short chair pedistal and chair on top of it. Actually from what I can tell this fridge is actually 120v with it's own built in power inverter to convert from 12 DC to 120 AC. But it's all self contained and water proof. This is to utilize the space better instead of having a big cooler or the fridge hanging out where you have to walk around it or me trip over it (yes I'm clumsy!) Power is provided to it though the auxillary batteries and those in turn are charged via a battery isolator which will feed them and the engine battery off the alternator. at the refridgerators 3.5 A draw, the auxiallry batteries should be good to run the fridge over night that is if it doesn't need to run 24-7, and the least that can happen is the fridge can run the aux. batteries dead and still leave the engine battery alone. Start the boat and you charge the engine and aux batteries at the same time. Anyhow, We'd still be taking a cooler to keep the drinking water and juice etc in and the food stuffs in the ice box. Anyhow, that's my views concerning using a 12v refridgerator instead of a cooler for main stay refridgeration. Oh yeah, If we can hhole up at a marina with shore power for a night, we can plug the box right in at the dock. |
Boat weight distribution..
On Mar 30, 11:21*am, John H wrote:
How long are you planning to be out for one trip? John, the length of the trip may be determined by the weight of the credit card. ?;^ Q |
Boat weight distribution..
On 3/30/10 4:02 PM, Tim wrote:
Yeah, I ahve some jerry cans but they're to heavy, but I couldn't believe it when the wife said we could carry some fresh water in gallon milk jugs (huh?) but sounds good to me. Plastic milk jugs are made of very thin-walled plastic, and can't take much of a hit before they puncture. Why not buy two six packs of one pint water bottles, save the bottles as you drink the water, and then wash them off and refill them? My little Parker has a 20 or 25 gallon insulated baitwell under the pedestal seats. But when I have live bait, I keep it in a separate baitwell, which means the bigger baitwell is available for use as a cooler. I dump a couple bags of ice in it and stow drinks in it. At the end of the day, I simply pull the unopened drinks out and let the baitwell drain on its own accord. I keep my refilled water bottles in there. I also have a few igloo coolers of various sizes, and typically take one of the smaller ones aboard for food storage. -- http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym |
Boat weight distribution..
On Mar 30, 3:28*pm, hk wrote:
On 3/30/10 4:02 PM, Tim wrote: Yeah, I ahve some jerry cans but they're to heavy, but I couldn't believe it when the wife said we could carry some fresh water in gallon milk jugs (huh?) but sounds good to me. Plastic milk jugs are made of very thin-walled plastic, and can't take much of a hit before they puncture. Why not buy two six packs of one pint water bottles, save the bottles as you drink the water, and then wash them off and refill them? My little Parker has a 20 or 25 gallon insulated baitwell under the pedestal seats. But when I have live bait, I keep it in a separate baitwell, which means the bigger baitwell is available for use as a cooler. I dump a couple bags of ice in it and stow drinks in it. At the end of the day, I simply pull the unopened drinks out and let the baitwell drain on its own accord. I keep my refilled water bottles in there. I also have a few igloo coolers of various sizes, and typically take one of the smaller ones aboard for food storage. --http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym Well that's what I was thinking about the milk jugs. And really I was surprised that she mentioned it, because it really seemed below her order of things to offer the suggestion. Plus, the idea is to keep the interior as un- cluttered ans possible. That's why I'm thinking on going with a couple of thin line 5 gal. heavy plastic containers with either an electric or air pump and using a shower nozzle for supply. Yes, keep the drinking water in the cooler! |
Boat weight distribution..
On 3/30/10 5:35 PM, Tim wrote:
On Mar 30, 3:28 pm, wrote: On 3/30/10 4:02 PM, Tim wrote: Yeah, I ahve some jerry cans but they're to heavy, but I couldn't believe it when the wife said we could carry some fresh water in gallon milk jugs (huh?) but sounds good to me. Plastic milk jugs are made of very thin-walled plastic, and can't take much of a hit before they puncture. Why not buy two six packs of one pint water bottles, save the bottles as you drink the water, and then wash them off and refill them? My little Parker has a 20 or 25 gallon insulated baitwell under the pedestal seats. But when I have live bait, I keep it in a separate baitwell, which means the bigger baitwell is available for use as a cooler. I dump a couple bags of ice in it and stow drinks in it. At the end of the day, I simply pull the unopened drinks out and let the baitwell drain on its own accord. I keep my refilled water bottles in there. I also have a few igloo coolers of various sizes, and typically take one of the smaller ones aboard for food storage. --http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym Well that's what I was thinking about the milk jugs. And really I was surprised that she mentioned it, because it really seemed below her order of things to offer the suggestion. Plus, the idea is to keep the interior as un- cluttered ans possible. That's why I'm thinking on going with a couple of thin line 5 gal. heavy plastic containers with either an electric or air pump and using a shower nozzle for supply. Yes, keep the drinking water in the cooler! I prefer the sealed one-pinters for water...I know the water inside is clean and I wash the bottles carefully after use. No pumps, no air hose, no nozzle. -- http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym |
Boat weight distribution..
|
Boat weight distribution..
jamesgangnc wrote:
On Mar 30, 1:21 pm, John wrote: On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:09:08 -0700 (PDT), wrote: OK, so I'm trying to get everything in order with my 23' Marquis and put some creature comforts in it. I plan on using a battery isolator and I'd thought of installing an 8-D battery, but there goes about 130 lb.s in one solid chunk, so I'm opting for a couple or three extra car batteries which will add up to about the same weight if not a bit more, but I can distribute them around the hull for a better balance. Plus, I'm taking a friends Min Kota 24 v. troller for 'emergency use' in case something might happen to the engine or drive. Therefore I can switch a couple batteries around into series to make 24 for the troller. It won't be much but it might help us to make it into somewhere or out of the way of something heavy if need be. I have a Nord refrigerator that got taken out of a camper that runs on 12v.or 120vac. I bought it for cold drinking water, juice etc. and it was cheap enough. OK so there's another 50lbs.. Plus I'm adding about 6 -12 gal. of fresh water in a plastic canister like for an outboard gas tank which will be supplied by an electric pump to a hand held shower head. I figure I'm adding about 300 + lb of extra gear to an already heavy hull, (Not counting anchor) but the boat has a weight load on the spec tag of 950 lb. Now I'm trying o figure out the best weight distribution formulas to make it easier on the boat concerning handling, fuel economy (Proper prop and trim tabs comes next) etc. Oh yeah, I forgot to mention I'm thinking on adding an extra 10 gallon fuel tank out of a derelict boat I stripped out for parts. And with all that , plus the wife and myself, I'm figuring to still be under the weight limit on the boat. How long are you planning to be out for one trip? A good cooler will keep stuff cold for four or five days, and weigh a lot less than 50 pounds (empty). -- John H For a great time, go here first...http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I moved my battery up to the front but it's not without it's flaws. The front takes a good deal more banging around and I've discovered that cheaper batteries won't tolerate it. You end up with a dead cell because the plates got knocked together. Maybe a Gel battery will solve that problem? |
Boat weight distribution..
On Mar 30, 9:41*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:59:16 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: John, that's to be determined yet. possibly 200 miles and maybe 3-4 days. In another thread I brought this up about using dry ice in a cooler, because to me it's repulsive to have food stuffs float around in ice water even if you use those little resealable containers.and I've found out from in the past that if the upper part of the container is exposed to air in the cooler it's not really cold. One of our hurricane tricks is to stuff the freezer with bottles of water before the show, then you have mass that takes a long time to thaw out, when the power goes out. That gives you plenty of "cold" and when they melt you still have bottles of water. These bottles are also great in a cooler for all the same reasons. You also don't have that slimy water sloshing around. You can put your perishables in the bottom and stack the frozen bottles on top. Excellent idea Greg. I had previously thought of that, only experimenting with half gal. jugs.to line the top of a cooler. I've also got a bunch of ice substitute freeze blocks. |
Boat weight distribution..
"Tim" wrote in message ... On Mar 30, 9:41 pm, wrote: On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:59:16 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: John, that's to be determined yet. possibly 200 miles and maybe 3-4 days. In another thread I brought this up about using dry ice in a cooler, because to me it's repulsive to have food stuffs float around in ice water even if you use those little resealable containers.and I've found out from in the past that if the upper part of the container is exposed to air in the cooler it's not really cold. One of our hurricane tricks is to stuff the freezer with bottles of water before the show, then you have mass that takes a long time to thaw out, when the power goes out. That gives you plenty of "cold" and when they melt you still have bottles of water. These bottles are also great in a cooler for all the same reasons. You also don't have that slimy water sloshing around. You can put your perishables in the bottom and stack the frozen bottles on top. Excellent idea Greg. I had previously thought of that, only experimenting with half gal. jugs.to line the top of a cooler. I've also got a bunch of ice substitute freeze blocks. My cooler will keep ice 5 days, as long as you do not open it a lot. I always use frozen water bottles, both small and 2L size. Use 2 coolers. A large one with the frozen stuff and a smaller one which you keep drinks and stuff for the day in. Then the large one gets opened very few times. |
Boat weight distribution..
In article ,
says... On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:09:08 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: OK, so I'm trying to get everything in order with my 23' Marquis and put some creature comforts in it. I plan on using a battery isolator and I'd thought of installing an 8-D battery, but there goes about 130 lb.s in one solid chunk, so I'm opting for a couple or three extra car batteries which will add up to about the same weight if not a bit more, but I can distribute them around the hull for a better balance. Plus, I'm taking a friends Min Kota 24 v. troller for 'emergency use' in case something might happen to the engine or drive. Therefore I can switch a couple batteries around into series to make 24 for the troller. It won't be much but it might help us to make it into somewhere or out of the way of something heavy if need be. I have a Nord refrigerator that got taken out of a camper that runs on 12v.or 120vac. I bought it for cold drinking water, juice etc. and it was cheap enough. OK so there's another 50lbs.. Plus I'm adding about 6 -12 gal. of fresh water in a plastic canister like for an outboard gas tank which will be supplied by an electric pump to a hand held shower head. I figure I'm adding about 300 + lb of extra gear to an already heavy hull, (Not counting anchor) but the boat has a weight load on the spec tag of 950 lb. Now I'm trying o figure out the best weight distribution formulas to make it easier on the boat concerning handling, fuel economy (Proper prop and trim tabs comes next) etc. Oh yeah, I forgot to mention I'm thinking on adding an extra 10 gallon fuel tank out of a derelict boat I stripped out for parts. And with all that , plus the wife and myself, I'm figuring to still be under the weight limit on the boat. How long are you planning to be out for one trip? A good cooler will keep stuff cold for four or five days, and weigh a lot less than 50 pounds (empty). I have great coolers and they are good for a day and a half maybe unless you keep filling the ice. I don't know where you use your coolers but I am out in 95 degree sun and very little shade in the summer, kind of like in a boat;) Scotty -- For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v |
Boat weight distribution..
In article bc0512fe-d20e-4f71-b23d-
, says... On Mar 30, 9:41*pm, wrote: On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:59:16 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: John, that's to be determined yet. possibly 200 miles and maybe 3-4 days. In another thread I brought this up about using dry ice in a cooler, because to me it's repulsive to have food stuffs float around in ice water even if you use those little resealable containers.and I've found out from in the past that if the upper part of the container is exposed to air in the cooler it's not really cold. One of our hurricane tricks is to stuff the freezer with bottles of water before the show, then you have mass that takes a long time to thaw out, when the power goes out. That gives you plenty of "cold" and when they melt you still have bottles of water. These bottles are also great in a cooler for all the same reasons. You also don't have that slimy water sloshing around. You can put your perishables in the bottom and stack the frozen bottles on top. Excellent idea Greg. I had previously thought of that, only experimenting with half gal. jugs.to line the top of a cooler. I've also got a bunch of ice substitute freeze blocks. If you're drinking or otherwise using the water, go with that. I've read the freezable chemicals can absorb more heat, but never noticed a difference in actual use. |
Boat weight distribution..
On Mar 31, 5:11*am, Peter Prick wrote:
In article bc0512fe-d20e-4f71-b23d- , says... On Mar 30, 9:41 pm, wrote: On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:59:16 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: John, that's to be determined yet. possibly 200 miles and maybe 3-4 days. In another thread I brought this up about using dry ice in a cooler, because to me it's repulsive to have food stuffs float around in ice water even if you use those little resealable containers.and I've found out from in the past that if the upper part of the container is exposed to air in the cooler it's not really cold. One of our hurricane tricks is to stuff the freezer with bottles of water before the show, then you have mass that takes a long time to thaw out, when the power goes out. That gives you plenty of "cold" and when they melt you still have bottles of water. These bottles are also great in a cooler for all the same reasons. You also don't have that slimy water sloshing around. You can put your perishables in the bottom and stack the frozen bottles on top. Excellent idea Greg. I had previously thought of that, only experimenting with half gal. jugs.to line the top of a cooler. I've also got a bunch of ice substitute freeze blocks. If you're drinking or otherwise using the water, go with that. I've read the freezable chemicals can absorb more heat, but never noticed a difference in actual use.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Same here. They are compact and from what I've noticed is they do last a bit longer than regular ice. so I suppose it would be good to put them in the bottom of the cooler and as Greg suggested put the perishables in the center then top the cooler with either more ice packs or botles of frozen water. |
Boat weight distribution..
On 3/31/10 7:43 AM, Tim wrote:
On Mar 31, 5:11 am, Peter wrote: In articlebc0512fe-d20e-4f71-b23d- , says... On Mar 30, 9:41 pm, wrote: On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:59:16 -0700 (PDT), wrote: John, that's to be determined yet. possibly 200 miles and maybe 3-4 days. In another thread I brought this up about using dry ice in a cooler, because to me it's repulsive to have food stuffs float around in ice water even if you use those little resealable containers.and I've found out from in the past that if the upper part of the container is exposed to air in the cooler it's not really cold. One of our hurricane tricks is to stuff the freezer with bottles of water before the show, then you have mass that takes a long time to thaw out, when the power goes out. That gives you plenty of "cold" and when they melt you still have bottles of water. These bottles are also great in a cooler for all the same reasons. You also don't have that slimy water sloshing around. You can put your perishables in the bottom and stack the frozen bottles on top. Excellent idea Greg. I had previously thought of that, only experimenting with half gal. jugs.to line the top of a cooler. I've also got a bunch of ice substitute freeze blocks. If you're drinking or otherwise using the water, go with that. I've read the freezable chemicals can absorb more heat, but never noticed a difference in actual use.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Same here. They are compact and from what I've noticed is they do last a bit longer than regular ice. so I suppose it would be good to put them in the bottom of the cooler and as Greg suggested put the perishables in the center then top the cooler with either more ice packs or botles of frozen water. Are you planning trips of many days duration? My igloo coolers will keep ice and keep food fresh for a few days, even in our 90F heat here in the summer. -- http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym |
Boat weight distribution..
On Mar 31, 5:45*am, hk wrote:
On 3/31/10 7:43 AM, Tim wrote: On Mar 31, 5:11 am, Peter *wrote: In articlebc0512fe-d20e-4f71-b23d- , says.... On Mar 30, 9:41 pm, wrote: On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:59:16 -0700 (PDT), wrote: John, that's to be determined yet. possibly 200 miles and maybe 3-4 days. In another thread I brought this up about using dry ice in a cooler, because to me it's repulsive to have food stuffs float around in ice water even if you use those little resealable containers.and I've found out from in the past that if the upper part of the container is exposed to air in the cooler it's not really cold. One of our hurricane tricks is to stuff the freezer with bottles of water before the show, then you have mass that takes a long time to thaw out, when the power goes out. That gives you plenty of "cold" and when they melt you still have bottles of water. These bottles are also great in a cooler for all the same reasons. You also don't have that slimy water sloshing around. You can put your perishables in the bottom and stack the frozen bottles on top. Excellent idea Greg. I had previously thought of that, only experimenting with half gal. jugs.to line the top of a cooler. I've also got a bunch of ice substitute freeze blocks. If you're drinking or otherwise using the water, go with that. I've read the freezable chemicals can absorb more heat, but never noticed a difference in actual use.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Same here. They are compact and from what I've noticed is they do last a bit longer than regular ice. so I suppose it would be good to put them in the bottom of the cooler and as Greg suggested put the perishables in the center then top the cooler with either more ice packs or botles of frozen water. Are you planning trips of many days duration? My igloo coolers will keep ice and keep food fresh for a few days, even in our 90F heat here in the summer. --http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Harry, the trip we're planning may be for about 3or maybe 4 days, but as I mentioned before. The length of the trip is determined by the weight of the credit card. ?;^ ) |
Boat weight distribution..
On 3/31/10 7:52 AM, Tim wrote:
On Mar 31, 5:45 am, wrote: On 3/31/10 7:43 AM, Tim wrote: On Mar 31, 5:11 am, Peter wrote: In articlebc0512fe-d20e-4f71-b23d- , says... On Mar 30, 9:41 pm, wrote: On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:59:16 -0700 (PDT), wrote: John, that's to be determined yet. possibly 200 miles and maybe 3-4 days. In another thread I brought this up about using dry ice in a cooler, because to me it's repulsive to have food stuffs float around in ice water even if you use those little resealable containers.and I've found out from in the past that if the upper part of the container is exposed to air in the cooler it's not really cold. One of our hurricane tricks is to stuff the freezer with bottles of water before the show, then you have mass that takes a long time to thaw out, when the power goes out. That gives you plenty of "cold" and when they melt you still have bottles of water. These bottles are also great in a cooler for all the same reasons. You also don't have that slimy water sloshing around. You can put your perishables in the bottom and stack the frozen bottles on top. Excellent idea Greg. I had previously thought of that, only experimenting with half gal. jugs.to line the top of a cooler. I've also got a bunch of ice substitute freeze blocks. If you're drinking or otherwise using the water, go with that. I've read the freezable chemicals can absorb more heat, but never noticed a difference in actual use.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Same here. They are compact and from what I've noticed is they do last a bit longer than regular ice. so I suppose it would be good to put them in the bottom of the cooler and as Greg suggested put the perishables in the center then top the cooler with either more ice packs or botles of frozen water. Are you planning trips of many days duration? My igloo coolers will keep ice and keep food fresh for a few days, even in our 90F heat here in the summer. --http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Harry, the trip we're planning may be for about 3or maybe 4 days, but as I mentioned before. The length of the trip is determined by the weight of the credit card. ?;^ ) Well, then, I think you are making this more complicated than it need be. If you are traveling and paying your way with plastic, that means you're going to be docking...and almost every place you might dock and use a credit card sells...guess what...ICE! I can't recall a commercial dock/marina I've visited that didn't have ice for sale on the premises, or at a store within a very short walking radius. -- http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym |
Boat weight distribution..
On Mar 31, 6:08*am, hk wrote:
On 3/31/10 7:52 AM, Tim wrote: On Mar 31, 5:45 am, *wrote: On 3/31/10 7:43 AM, Tim wrote: On Mar 31, 5:11 am, Peter * *wrote: In articlebc0512fe-d20e-4f71-b23d- , says.... On Mar 30, 9:41 pm, wrote: On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:59:16 -0700 (PDT), wrote: John, that's to be determined yet. possibly 200 miles and maybe 3-4 days. In another thread I brought this up about using dry ice in a cooler, because to me it's repulsive to have food stuffs float around in ice water even if you use those little resealable containers.and I've found out from in the past that if the upper part of the container is exposed to air in the cooler it's not really cold. One of our hurricane tricks is to stuff the freezer with bottles of water before the show, then you have mass that takes a long time to thaw out, when the power goes out. That gives you plenty of "cold" and when they melt you still have bottles of water. These bottles are also great in a cooler for all the same reasons. You also don't have that slimy water sloshing around. You can put your perishables in the bottom and stack the frozen bottles on top. Excellent idea Greg. I had previously thought of that, only experimenting with half gal. jugs.to line the top of a cooler. I've also got a bunch of ice substitute freeze blocks. If you're drinking or otherwise using the water, go with that. I've read the freezable chemicals can absorb more heat, but never noticed a difference in actual use.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Same here. They are compact and from what I've noticed is they do last a bit longer than regular ice. so I suppose it would be good to put them in the bottom of the cooler and as Greg suggested put the perishables in the center then top the cooler with either more ice packs or botles of frozen water. Are you planning trips of many days duration? My igloo coolers will keep ice and keep food fresh for a few days, even in our 90F heat here in the summer. --http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym-Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Harry, the trip we're planning may be for about 3or maybe 4 days, but as I mentioned before. The length of the trip is determined by the weight of the credit card. ?;^ ) Well, then, I think you are making this more complicated than it need be. If you are traveling and paying your way with plastic, that means you're going to be docking...and almost every place you might dock and use a credit card sells...guess what...ICE! I can't recall a commercial dock/marina I've visited that didn't have ice for sale on the premises, or at a store within a very short walking radius. --http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - True. and knowing the wife. Well, I'm thinking I know the wife she'll object to sleeping ont he boat and want a motel and resteraunt somewhere along the line. That's why I thought it was odd that she of all people would suggest carying water in milk jugs. go figgah! |
Boat weight distribution..
"Tim" wrote in message ... On Mar 30, 3:28 pm, hk wrote: On 3/30/10 4:02 PM, Tim wrote: Yeah, I ahve some jerry cans but they're to heavy, but I couldn't believe it when the wife said we could carry some fresh water in gallon milk jugs (huh?) but sounds good to me. Plastic milk jugs are made of very thin-walled plastic, and can't take much of a hit before they puncture. Why not buy two six packs of one pint water bottles, save the bottles as you drink the water, and then wash them off and refill them? My little Parker has a 20 or 25 gallon insulated baitwell under the pedestal seats. But when I have live bait, I keep it in a separate baitwell, which means the bigger baitwell is available for use as a cooler. I dump a couple bags of ice in it and stow drinks in it. At the end of the day, I simply pull the unopened drinks out and let the baitwell drain on its own accord. I keep my refilled water bottles in there. I also have a few igloo coolers of various sizes, and typically take one of the smaller ones aboard for food storage. --http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym Well that's what I was thinking about the milk jugs. And really I was surprised that she mentioned it, because it really seemed below her order of things to offer the suggestion. Plus, the idea is to keep the interior as un- cluttered ans possible. That's why I'm thinking on going with a couple of thin line 5 gal. heavy plastic containers with either an electric or air pump and using a shower nozzle for supply. Yes, keep the drinking water in the cooler! -------- We freeze gallon jugs of juice and milk for camping and boating trips (also chicken and meat) and use this to keep other (non frozen) foods cold. We use everything as it thaws and this saves on ice and cuts out the water pooling in the bottom of the coolers.. |
Boat weight distribution..
On Mar 31, 6:08*am, hk wrote:
On 3/31/10 7:52 AM, Tim wrote: On Mar 31, 5:45 am, *wrote: On 3/31/10 7:43 AM, Tim wrote: On Mar 31, 5:11 am, Peter * *wrote: In articlebc0512fe-d20e-4f71-b23d- , says.... On Mar 30, 9:41 pm, wrote: On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:59:16 -0700 (PDT), wrote: John, that's to be determined yet. possibly 200 miles and maybe 3-4 days. In another thread I brought this up about using dry ice in a cooler, because to me it's repulsive to have food stuffs float around in ice water even if you use those little resealable containers.and I've found out from in the past that if the upper part of the container is exposed to air in the cooler it's not really cold. One of our hurricane tricks is to stuff the freezer with bottles of water before the show, then you have mass that takes a long time to thaw out, when the power goes out. That gives you plenty of "cold" and when they melt you still have bottles of water. These bottles are also great in a cooler for all the same reasons. You also don't have that slimy water sloshing around. You can put your perishables in the bottom and stack the frozen bottles on top. Excellent idea Greg. I had previously thought of that, only experimenting with half gal. jugs.to line the top of a cooler. I've also got a bunch of ice substitute freeze blocks. If you're drinking or otherwise using the water, go with that. I've read the freezable chemicals can absorb more heat, but never noticed a difference in actual use.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Same here. They are compact and from what I've noticed is they do last a bit longer than regular ice. so I suppose it would be good to put them in the bottom of the cooler and as Greg suggested put the perishables in the center then top the cooler with either more ice packs or botles of frozen water. Are you planning trips of many days duration? My igloo coolers will keep ice and keep food fresh for a few days, even in our 90F heat here in the summer. --http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym-Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Harry, the trip we're planning may be for about 3or maybe 4 days, but as I mentioned before. The length of the trip is determined by the weight of the credit card. ?;^ ) Well, then, I think you are making this more complicated than it need be. If you are traveling and paying your way with plastic, that means you're going to be docking...and almost every place you might dock and use a credit card sells...guess what...ICE! But actually Harry, that's what I'm wanting to get away from, is using ICE. I'm not really objecting to it, I would jsut rather not if I can ge3t by without it. |
Boat weight distribution..
"I am Tosk" wrote in message ... In article , says... On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:09:08 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: OK, so I'm trying to get everything in order with my 23' Marquis and put some creature comforts in it. I plan on using a battery isolator and I'd thought of installing an 8-D battery, but there goes about 130 lb.s in one solid chunk, so I'm opting for a couple or three extra car batteries which will add up to about the same weight if not a bit more, but I can distribute them around the hull for a better balance. Plus, I'm taking a friends Min Kota 24 v. troller for 'emergency use' in case something might happen to the engine or drive. Therefore I can switch a couple batteries around into series to make 24 for the troller. It won't be much but it might help us to make it into somewhere or out of the way of something heavy if need be. I have a Nord refrigerator that got taken out of a camper that runs on 12v.or 120vac. I bought it for cold drinking water, juice etc. and it was cheap enough. OK so there's another 50lbs.. Plus I'm adding about 6 -12 gal. of fresh water in a plastic canister like for an outboard gas tank which will be supplied by an electric pump to a hand held shower head. I figure I'm adding about 300 + lb of extra gear to an already heavy hull, (Not counting anchor) but the boat has a weight load on the spec tag of 950 lb. Now I'm trying o figure out the best weight distribution formulas to make it easier on the boat concerning handling, fuel economy (Proper prop and trim tabs comes next) etc. Oh yeah, I forgot to mention I'm thinking on adding an extra 10 gallon fuel tank out of a derelict boat I stripped out for parts. And with all that , plus the wife and myself, I'm figuring to still be under the weight limit on the boat. How long are you planning to be out for one trip? A good cooler will keep stuff cold for four or five days, and weigh a lot less than 50 pounds (empty). I have great coolers and they are good for a day and a half maybe unless you keep filling the ice. I don't know where you use your coolers but I am out in 95 degree sun and very little shade in the summer, kind of like in a boat;) Scotty -- For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v Scotty, Ever use one of those folding canopies? If there is room at the track, these things are great for keeping people and coolers - cooler than sitting in direct sun. We use one anytime we're at an outdoor event (like birthday parties at the beach) and it's a life saver. Ours has the folding frame and rollup screen walls to keep the bugs out in the evenings. |
Boat weight distribution..
In article d39a1c08-6d8f-4043-a3fa-33d1d56b501b@
33g2000yqj.googlegroups.com, says... On Mar 31, 6:08*am, hk wrote: On 3/31/10 7:52 AM, Tim wrote: On Mar 31, 5:45 am, *wrote: On 3/31/10 7:43 AM, Tim wrote: On Mar 31, 5:11 am, Peter * *wrote: In articlebc0512fe-d20e-4f71-b23d- , says... On Mar 30, 9:41 pm, wrote: On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:59:16 -0700 (PDT), wrote: John, that's to be determined yet. possibly 200 miles and maybe 3-4 days. In another thread I brought this up about using dry ice in a cooler, because to me it's repulsive to have food stuffs float around in ice water even if you use those little resealable containers.and I've found out from in the past that if the upper part of the container is exposed to air in the cooler it's not really cold. One of our hurricane tricks is to stuff the freezer with bottles of water before the show, then you have mass that takes a long time to thaw out, when the power goes out. That gives you plenty of "cold" and when they melt you still have bottles of water. These bottles are also great in a cooler for all the same reasons. You also don't have that slimy water sloshing around. You can put your perishables in the bottom and stack the frozen bottles on top. Excellent idea Greg. I had previously thought of that, only experimenting with half gal. jugs.to line the top of a cooler. I've also got a bunch of ice substitute freeze blocks. If you're drinking or otherwise using the water, go with that. I've read the freezable chemicals can absorb more heat, but never noticed a difference in actual use.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Same here. They are compact and from what I've noticed is they do last a bit longer than regular ice. so I suppose it would be good to put them in the bottom of the cooler and as Greg suggested put the perishables in the center then top the cooler with either more ice packs or botles of frozen water. Are you planning trips of many days duration? My igloo coolers will keep ice and keep food fresh for a few days, even in our 90F heat here in the summer. --http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym-Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Harry, the trip we're planning may be for about 3or maybe 4 days, but as I mentioned before. The length of the trip is determined by the weight of the credit card. ?;^ ) Well, then, I think you are making this more complicated than it need be. If you are traveling and paying your way with plastic, that means you're going to be docking...and almost every place you might dock and use a credit card sells...guess what...ICE! But actually Harry, that's what I'm wanting to get away from, is using ICE. I'm not really objecting to it, I would jsut rather not if I can ge3t by without it. Well, I do a lot of two to three day camp-outs with limited space too. We carry three coolers really. The big one has drinks, probably start a weekend with 40 bottles of water and juice and beer for the end of the weekend. That one is full of ice and it's just nicer to reach in a cooler of ice/water and bottles than a dry cold cooler in my opinion on a scorching hot day. We usually keep a Tupperware or two in there with clean ice too for drinks, again, nice in the hot weather. The cold food cooler uses blue freeze packs and anything going in there is frozen too if possible. That cooler stays pretty dry and stuff thaws as you need it really. When we are going for more than one day we pack several vacuum packs full of stew, or pork and beans, ribs, etc. in the cooler and all you need to do is boil some water and throw the bag in. The third cooler is the non-perishable dry goods like cereals, breads, condiments, crackers, snacks, etc... A typical 3 day starts days before with loading up with good food and lot's of fluids. This is very important to stay sharp as no matter what you do, your eating schedule will change for a few days, so build up that energy. Big carb load the night before the trip too. The day of the trip we eat a great breakfast (eggs, cereal, breakfast meat, toast, jam, juice, etc.) and usually get a quick lunch on the road. Snacks on day one usually consist of something like a bag of microwave pop-corn or similar. After that, less junk food as the weekend progresses, but we are racing, not riding down the river. Either way, you still want to stay sharp and fed. Dinner on day one is usually a home made foot long grinder or two, made fresh the morning of the trip. That is nice on the first night while setting up to have a hand held meal and not have to cook anything. Bacon and eggs are great and filling, but really, a big meal to cook and clean at the campsite so I usually only plan one B+E breakfast. I usually mix up some Aunt Jamima instant pancake mix and put it in an old ketchup bottle and just pop the top and you have quick easy, no clean, pancakes too right from the squeeze bottle. BTW, the canned whip cream propelled stuff is gross, don't buy it in my opinion. Dry cereal or instant oatmeal serves well the other two days. Remember you have been eating hearty all week to prepare so you won't starve for anything. Not a lot of getting around burgers and dogs or brats (which freeze very well and many times come in ez-close bags) for lunches so you need to pack a few of them in the frozen cooler for each person, each day. Dinners are when the precooked vacuum packed dinner comes out. You can have a few baggies of biscuits or something in your dry storage cooler to have with the stew, beans, ribs, whatever you put in your vacuum packs. Easy boil cook, no clean up but the dinner bowls. We also carry a bag of grated cheese for the weekend, it can make it's presence known at any meal while camping. As to your thought about dry ice I have several problems. First, dangerous in our area with so many kids reaching into coolers. Second, the way I set up the frozen cooler, stuff is thawing over the three days. If I had dry ice, nothing would ever thaw enough to eat;) The downside is you do have to restock ice here and there over a three day weekend. A typical weekend for me is about 7 bags of ice, at what, $2.50 each? Personally, I have seen a lot of folks camping and never really noticed any of the more experienced using dry ice. On the other hand, I did read about one guy on a group that was able to get dry ice cubes in bulk, that is something I wouldn't mind experimenting with for a while, just to line the coolers... Anyway, that's the way I address food on our racing weekends, just thought I would pass it along.. Didn't frekin' know it was gonna' turn into a frekin' book thought, I got blisters on me fingers!!!!!! Scotty -- For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v |
Boat weight distribution..
In article m,
says... "I am Tosk" wrote in message ... In article , says... On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:09:08 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: OK, so I'm trying to get everything in order with my 23' Marquis and put some creature comforts in it. I plan on using a battery isolator and I'd thought of installing an 8-D battery, but there goes about 130 lb.s in one solid chunk, so I'm opting for a couple or three extra car batteries which will add up to about the same weight if not a bit more, but I can distribute them around the hull for a better balance. Plus, I'm taking a friends Min Kota 24 v. troller for 'emergency use' in case something might happen to the engine or drive. Therefore I can switch a couple batteries around into series to make 24 for the troller. It won't be much but it might help us to make it into somewhere or out of the way of something heavy if need be. I have a Nord refrigerator that got taken out of a camper that runs on 12v.or 120vac. I bought it for cold drinking water, juice etc. and it was cheap enough. OK so there's another 50lbs.. Plus I'm adding about 6 -12 gal. of fresh water in a plastic canister like for an outboard gas tank which will be supplied by an electric pump to a hand held shower head. I figure I'm adding about 300 + lb of extra gear to an already heavy hull, (Not counting anchor) but the boat has a weight load on the spec tag of 950 lb. Now I'm trying o figure out the best weight distribution formulas to make it easier on the boat concerning handling, fuel economy (Proper prop and trim tabs comes next) etc. Oh yeah, I forgot to mention I'm thinking on adding an extra 10 gallon fuel tank out of a derelict boat I stripped out for parts. And with all that , plus the wife and myself, I'm figuring to still be under the weight limit on the boat. How long are you planning to be out for one trip? A good cooler will keep stuff cold for four or five days, and weigh a lot less than 50 pounds (empty). I have great coolers and they are good for a day and a half maybe unless you keep filling the ice. I don't know where you use your coolers but I am out in 95 degree sun and very little shade in the summer, kind of like in a boat;) Scotty -- For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v Scotty, Ever use one of those folding canopies? If there is room at the track, these things are great for keeping people and coolers - cooler than sitting in direct sun. We use one anytime we're at an outdoor event (like birthday parties at the beach) and it's a life saver. Ours has the folding frame and rollup screen walls to keep the bugs out in the evenings. Yes, I do have one with the sides too but somethimes it's just over there and the cooler is over here for now;) I am not sure how long you have been reading but my daughter, I and our race team spend weekends out in the middle of nowhere, usually on top of some dusty old hill, rain, mud, whatever, and we go racin' dirtbikes! Sounds funny, but sometimes you don't even have time to worry about if the cooler is being moved all day out of the sun;) Most times actually, the big one stays right in the back of the truck so that get's real hot during the day, but we try. My new coleman, huge thing like four feet wide, does a bit better than our older coolers, I bet if I kept it out of direct sunlight it could keep ice a few days... Scotty -- For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v |
Boat weight distribution..
On Mar 31, 8:30*am, "mmc" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message ... On Mar 30, 3:28 pm, hk wrote: On 3/30/10 4:02 PM, Tim wrote: Yeah, I ahve some jerry cans but they're to heavy, but I couldn't believe it when the wife said we could carry some fresh water in gallon milk jugs (huh?) but sounds good to me. Plastic milk jugs are made of very thin-walled plastic, and can't take much of a hit before they puncture. Why not buy two six packs of one pint water bottles, save the bottles as you drink the water, and then wash them off and refill them? My little Parker has a 20 or 25 gallon insulated baitwell under the pedestal seats. But when I have live bait, I keep it in a separate baitwell, which means the bigger baitwell is available for use as a cooler. I dump a couple bags of ice in it and stow drinks in it. At the end of the day, I simply pull the unopened drinks out and let the baitwell drain on its own accord. I keep my refilled water bottles in there. I also have a few igloo coolers of various sizes, and typically take one of the smaller ones aboard for food storage. --http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym Well that's what I was thinking about the milk jugs. And really I was surprised that she mentioned it, because it really seemed below her order of things to offer the suggestion. Plus, the idea is to keep the interior as un- cluttered ans possible. That's why I'm thinking on going with a couple of thin line *5 gal. heavy plastic containers with either an electric or air pump and using a shower nozzle for supply. Yes, keep the drinking water in the cooler! -------- We freeze gallon jugs of juice and milk for camping and boating trips (also chicken and meat) and use this to keep other (non frozen) foods cold. We use everything as it thaws and this saves on ice and cuts out the water pooling in the bottom of the coolers..- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Good thinking, man. This is all being taken into consideration. I would liek to see how my regridgerator will be working out though. If it doesn't sound practical then coolers it will have to be. |
Boat weight distribution..
On Mar 31, 8:30*am, "mmc" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message ... On Mar 30, 3:28 pm, hk wrote: On 3/30/10 4:02 PM, Tim wrote: Yeah, I ahve some jerry cans but they're to heavy, but I couldn't believe it when the wife said we could carry some fresh water in gallon milk jugs (huh?) but sounds good to me. Plastic milk jugs are made of very thin-walled plastic, and can't take much of a hit before they puncture. Why not buy two six packs of one pint water bottles, save the bottles as you drink the water, and then wash them off and refill them? My little Parker has a 20 or 25 gallon insulated baitwell under the pedestal seats. But when I have live bait, I keep it in a separate baitwell, which means the bigger baitwell is available for use as a cooler. I dump a couple bags of ice in it and stow drinks in it. At the end of the day, I simply pull the unopened drinks out and let the baitwell drain on its own accord. I keep my refilled water bottles in there. I also have a few igloo coolers of various sizes, and typically take one of the smaller ones aboard for food storage. --http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym Well that's what I was thinking about the milk jugs. And really I was surprised that she mentioned it, because it really seemed below her order of things to offer the suggestion. Plus, the idea is to keep the interior as un- cluttered ans possible. That's why I'm thinking on going with a couple of thin line *5 gal. heavy plastic containers with either an electric or air pump and using a shower nozzle for supply. Yes, keep the drinking water in the cooler! -------- We freeze gallon jugs of juice and milk for camping and boating trips (also chicken and meat) and use this to keep other (non frozen) foods cold. We use everything as it thaws and this saves on ice and cuts out the water pooling in the bottom of the coolers..- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Another reason why I wanted to 'try' to use the fridge is for weight. 50 lb fridge loaded is still lighter than a couple big coolers loaded with ice etc. and mroe compact too! But then again, using a couple more batteries etc it may be a toss up. But with the batteries etc I can space them around th hull to where they're not sitting like a chunk of lead (pardon the pun) in one spot. That's what I'm looking for is to take advantage of wasted space and weight distribution on the boat. |
Boat weight distribution..
On 3/31/10 11:43 AM, Tim wrote:
On Mar 31, 8:30 am, wrote: wrote in message ... On Mar 30, 3:28 pm, wrote: On 3/30/10 4:02 PM, Tim wrote: Yeah, I ahve some jerry cans but they're to heavy, but I couldn't believe it when the wife said we could carry some fresh water in gallon milk jugs (huh?) but sounds good to me. Plastic milk jugs are made of very thin-walled plastic, and can't take much of a hit before they puncture. Why not buy two six packs of one pint water bottles, save the bottles as you drink the water, and then wash them off and refill them? My little Parker has a 20 or 25 gallon insulated baitwell under the pedestal seats. But when I have live bait, I keep it in a separate baitwell, which means the bigger baitwell is available for use as a cooler. I dump a couple bags of ice in it and stow drinks in it. At the end of the day, I simply pull the unopened drinks out and let the baitwell drain on its own accord. I keep my refilled water bottles in there. I also have a few igloo coolers of various sizes, and typically take one of the smaller ones aboard for food storage. --http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym Well that's what I was thinking about the milk jugs. And really I was surprised that she mentioned it, because it really seemed below her order of things to offer the suggestion. Plus, the idea is to keep the interior as un- cluttered ans possible. That's why I'm thinking on going with a couple of thin line 5 gal. heavy plastic containers with either an electric or air pump and using a shower nozzle for supply. Yes, keep the drinking water in the cooler! -------- We freeze gallon jugs of juice and milk for camping and boating trips (also chicken and meat) and use this to keep other (non frozen) foods cold. We use everything as it thaws and this saves on ice and cuts out the water pooling in the bottom of the coolers..- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Another reason why I wanted to 'try' to use the fridge is for weight. 50 lb fridge loaded is still lighter than a couple big coolers loaded with ice etc. and mroe compact too! But then again, using a couple more batteries etc it may be a toss up. But with the batteries etc I can space them around th hull to where they're not sitting like a chunk of lead (pardon the pun) in one spot. That's what I'm looking for is to take advantage of wasted space and weight distribution on the boat. Heheheh. Batteries and wires and chargers everywhere...you should call Froggy in for a consult! The only small boat I ever owned with an electric fridge was my 25 Parker. It worked perfectly...I tried it once. But after that, I shut it off permanently and used it for dry storage. Ice and coolers...nothing beats them on small boats for day and long weekend cruising. Very little to go wrong, no batteries, wires, charges with which to fuss. -- http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym |
Boat weight distribution..
"I am Tosk" wrote in message ... In article m, says... "I am Tosk" wrote in message ... In article , says... On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:09:08 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: OK, so I'm trying to get everything in order with my 23' Marquis and put some creature comforts in it. I plan on using a battery isolator and I'd thought of installing an 8-D battery, but there goes about 130 lb.s in one solid chunk, so I'm opting for a couple or three extra car batteries which will add up to about the same weight if not a bit more, but I can distribute them around the hull for a better balance. Plus, I'm taking a friends Min Kota 24 v. troller for 'emergency use' in case something might happen to the engine or drive. Therefore I can switch a couple batteries around into series to make 24 for the troller. It won't be much but it might help us to make it into somewhere or out of the way of something heavy if need be. I have a Nord refrigerator that got taken out of a camper that runs on 12v.or 120vac. I bought it for cold drinking water, juice etc. and it was cheap enough. OK so there's another 50lbs.. Plus I'm adding about 6 -12 gal. of fresh water in a plastic canister like for an outboard gas tank which will be supplied by an electric pump to a hand held shower head. I figure I'm adding about 300 + lb of extra gear to an already heavy hull, (Not counting anchor) but the boat has a weight load on the spec tag of 950 lb. Now I'm trying o figure out the best weight distribution formulas to make it easier on the boat concerning handling, fuel economy (Proper prop and trim tabs comes next) etc. Oh yeah, I forgot to mention I'm thinking on adding an extra 10 gallon fuel tank out of a derelict boat I stripped out for parts. And with all that , plus the wife and myself, I'm figuring to still be under the weight limit on the boat. How long are you planning to be out for one trip? A good cooler will keep stuff cold for four or five days, and weigh a lot less than 50 pounds (empty). I have great coolers and they are good for a day and a half maybe unless you keep filling the ice. I don't know where you use your coolers but I am out in 95 degree sun and very little shade in the summer, kind of like in a boat;) Scotty -- For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v Scotty, Ever use one of those folding canopies? If there is room at the track, these things are great for keeping people and coolers - cooler than sitting in direct sun. We use one anytime we're at an outdoor event (like birthday parties at the beach) and it's a life saver. Ours has the folding frame and rollup screen walls to keep the bugs out in the evenings. Yes, I do have one with the sides too but somethimes it's just over there and the cooler is over here for now;) I am not sure how long you have been reading but my daughter, I and our race team spend weekends out in the middle of nowhere, usually on top of some dusty old hill, rain, mud, whatever, and we go racin' dirtbikes! Sounds funny, but sometimes you don't even have time to worry about if the cooler is being moved all day out of the sun;) Most times actually, the big one stays right in the back of the truck so that get's real hot during the day, but we try. My new coleman, huge thing like four feet wide, does a bit better than our older coolers, I bet if I kept it out of direct sunlight it could keep ice a few days... Scotty -- For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v For some reason I was thinking track racing like MX where you would have your own pit area with a nice recliner (folding) for dad to rest in the shade and pull mechanic duties when required....ha!. |
Boat weight distribution..
"Tim" wrote in message ... On Mar 31, 8:30 am, "mmc" wrote: "Tim" wrote in message ... On Mar 30, 3:28 pm, hk wrote: On 3/30/10 4:02 PM, Tim wrote: Yeah, I ahve some jerry cans but they're to heavy, but I couldn't believe it when the wife said we could carry some fresh water in gallon milk jugs (huh?) but sounds good to me. Plastic milk jugs are made of very thin-walled plastic, and can't take much of a hit before they puncture. Why not buy two six packs of one pint water bottles, save the bottles as you drink the water, and then wash them off and refill them? My little Parker has a 20 or 25 gallon insulated baitwell under the pedestal seats. But when I have live bait, I keep it in a separate baitwell, which means the bigger baitwell is available for use as a cooler. I dump a couple bags of ice in it and stow drinks in it. At the end of the day, I simply pull the unopened drinks out and let the baitwell drain on its own accord. I keep my refilled water bottles in there. I also have a few igloo coolers of various sizes, and typically take one of the smaller ones aboard for food storage. --http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym Well that's what I was thinking about the milk jugs. And really I was surprised that she mentioned it, because it really seemed below her order of things to offer the suggestion. Plus, the idea is to keep the interior as un- cluttered ans possible. That's why I'm thinking on going with a couple of thin line 5 gal. heavy plastic containers with either an electric or air pump and using a shower nozzle for supply. Yes, keep the drinking water in the cooler! -------- We freeze gallon jugs of juice and milk for camping and boating trips (also chicken and meat) and use this to keep other (non frozen) foods cold. We use everything as it thaws and this saves on ice and cuts out the water pooling in the bottom of the coolers..- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Another reason why I wanted to 'try' to use the fridge is for weight. 50 lb fridge loaded is still lighter than a couple big coolers loaded with ice etc. and mroe compact too! But then again, using a couple more batteries etc it may be a toss up. But with the batteries etc I can space them around th hull to where they're not sitting like a chunk of lead (pardon the pun) in one spot. That's what I'm looking for is to take advantage of wasted space and weight distribution on the boat. --------- A fridge would be nice. Engle has some nice (and pricey) portable refers that run on 12vdc and are very efficient. One of the features that makes them efficient is like boat iceboxes, they are top loading and this helps to keep the cold air in, instead of allowing it to spill out whenever the door is opened. I would just make sure my boat (starting) battery is/can be isolated from the house (fridge) so that you don't wake up to a long paddle to shore! Arrgh! |
Boat weight distribution..
On Mar 31, 9:49*am, hk wrote:
On 3/31/10 11:43 AM, Tim wrote: On Mar 31, 8:30 am, *wrote: *wrote in message .... On Mar 30, 3:28 pm, *wrote: On 3/30/10 4:02 PM, Tim wrote: Yeah, I ahve some jerry cans but they're to heavy, but I couldn't believe it when the wife said we could carry some fresh water in gallon milk jugs (huh?) but sounds good to me. Plastic milk jugs are made of very thin-walled plastic, and can't take much of a hit before they puncture. Why not buy two six packs of one pint water bottles, save the bottles as you drink the water, and then wash them off and refill them? My little Parker has a 20 or 25 gallon insulated baitwell under the pedestal seats. But when I have live bait, I keep it in a separate baitwell, which means the bigger baitwell is available for use as a cooler. I dump a couple bags of ice in it and stow drinks in it. At the end of the day, I simply pull the unopened drinks out and let the baitwell drain on its own accord. I keep my refilled water bottles in there. I also have a few igloo coolers of various sizes, and typically take one of the smaller ones aboard for food storage. --http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym Well that's what I was thinking about the milk jugs. And really I was surprised that she mentioned it, because it really seemed below her order of things to offer the suggestion. Plus, the idea is to keep the interior as un- cluttered ans possible. That's why I'm thinking on going with a couple of thin line *5 gal. heavy plastic containers with either an electric or air pump and using a shower nozzle for supply. Yes, keep the drinking water in the cooler! -------- We freeze gallon jugs of juice and milk for camping and boating trips (also chicken and meat) and use this to keep other (non frozen) foods cold. We use everything as it thaws and this saves on ice and cuts out the water pooling in the bottom of the coolers..- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Another reason why I wanted to 'try' to use the fridge is for weight. 50 lb fridge loaded is still lighter than a *couple big coolers loaded with ice etc. and mroe compact too! *But then again, using a couple more batteries etc it may be a toss up. But with the batteries etc I can space them around th hull to where they're not sitting like a chunk of lead (pardon the pun) in one spot. That's what I'm looking for is to take advantage of wasted space and weight distribution on the boat. Heheheh. Batteries and wires and chargers everywhere...you should call Froggy in for a consult! Harry. Batteries, wiring, and chargers have been my business for 30 years. |
Boat weight distribution..
In article m,
says... "I am Tosk" wrote in message ... In article m, says... "I am Tosk" wrote in message ... In article , says... On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:09:08 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: OK, so I'm trying to get everything in order with my 23' Marquis and put some creature comforts in it. I plan on using a battery isolator and I'd thought of installing an 8-D battery, but there goes about 130 lb.s in one solid chunk, so I'm opting for a couple or three extra car batteries which will add up to about the same weight if not a bit more, but I can distribute them around the hull for a better balance. Plus, I'm taking a friends Min Kota 24 v. troller for 'emergency use' in case something might happen to the engine or drive. Therefore I can switch a couple batteries around into series to make 24 for the troller. It won't be much but it might help us to make it into somewhere or out of the way of something heavy if need be. I have a Nord refrigerator that got taken out of a camper that runs on 12v.or 120vac. I bought it for cold drinking water, juice etc. and it was cheap enough. OK so there's another 50lbs.. Plus I'm adding about 6 -12 gal. of fresh water in a plastic canister like for an outboard gas tank which will be supplied by an electric pump to a hand held shower head. I figure I'm adding about 300 + lb of extra gear to an already heavy hull, (Not counting anchor) but the boat has a weight load on the spec tag of 950 lb. Now I'm trying o figure out the best weight distribution formulas to make it easier on the boat concerning handling, fuel economy (Proper prop and trim tabs comes next) etc. Oh yeah, I forgot to mention I'm thinking on adding an extra 10 gallon fuel tank out of a derelict boat I stripped out for parts. And with all that , plus the wife and myself, I'm figuring to still be under the weight limit on the boat. How long are you planning to be out for one trip? A good cooler will keep stuff cold for four or five days, and weigh a lot less than 50 pounds (empty). I have great coolers and they are good for a day and a half maybe unless you keep filling the ice. I don't know where you use your coolers but I am out in 95 degree sun and very little shade in the summer, kind of like in a boat;) Scotty -- For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v Scotty, Ever use one of those folding canopies? If there is room at the track, these things are great for keeping people and coolers - cooler than sitting in direct sun. We use one anytime we're at an outdoor event (like birthday parties at the beach) and it's a life saver. Ours has the folding frame and rollup screen walls to keep the bugs out in the evenings. Yes, I do have one with the sides too but somethimes it's just over there and the cooler is over here for now;) I am not sure how long you have been reading but my daughter, I and our race team spend weekends out in the middle of nowhere, usually on top of some dusty old hill, rain, mud, whatever, and we go racin' dirtbikes! Sounds funny, but sometimes you don't even have time to worry about if the cooler is being moved all day out of the sun;) Most times actually, the big one stays right in the back of the truck so that get's real hot during the day, but we try. My new coleman, huge thing like four feet wide, does a bit better than our older coolers, I bet if I kept it out of direct sunlight it could keep ice a few days... Scotty -- For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v For some reason I was thinking track racing like MX where you would have your own pit area with a nice recliner (folding) for dad to rest in the shade and pull mechanic duties when required....ha!. Close enough, we do motocross, ...but things have changed since we took our dad's beer money and went track racing on the weekend, or crashed at the local sandpit. The competition is incredible and there is little time to sit around. I start at about 5:30 am for sign-ups, latrine visit, cook breakfast, and wake my daughter at about 8:30 for the drivers meeting. Racing starts at 9. From there it's air filter, tire pressure, oil, carb, chain adjustments, suspension and various other equipment changes and adjustments between each the 6 motos. Bikes are completely pressure- washed, dried with a leaf blower, wiped down and plastic/wheels, etc are wiped down with WD 40 to keep the mud off, radiator, oil checked, and the chain is also lubed between motos, I have maybe 45 minutes to do this and go potty, eat, get a drink, pet the dog, talk to the rider, whatever between motos. 15-20 minutes before each moto I start and warm the bike up for 5 minutes, and sometimes push it to the line depending on track rules. I go to the line and watch 95% of the races if I am not working on putting out another fire or helping another team member put out theirs. Staging is probably a 15 minute setup before each race. Remember the 45 minutes I noted I had to do my list between motos? Starting/staging is part of that;) Every other moto or so, the water barrel for the pressure washer needs to be hauled to the supply and refilled, dragged back, and the washer reprimed. That is a typical day of racing for me, and I am sure there a few things I forgot in the routine;) Racing ends about 5 pm and I have about an hour of maintenance to do like change out new oil, filter and fresh air filter if it is a two day race. She gets to go hit the showers and gets to go play with her friends for a while. At about 6pm or so I will lock the bikes in the trailer and start cooking and cleaning up the camp site from the day. Then I gather up the kids and eat, she gets to sleep between 10 and 11, hey, kids gotta' have some time with her friends. Sometimes after she's crashed, one of our team makes a run to town for supplies, gas, ice, etc... Sometimes Brian makes drinks and orders Dominoes, and some toothless old hippie pulls out a weird little guitar;) The next morning it starts all over, except instead of changing out filters and fluids at the end of the day, we break down camp and head home. So, anybody seen the cooler??? Yeah, I know it's probably too much info, but I am trying to get myself wound up for the season, all of this was done last year in the rain, every weekend at least one day it poured... yikes Either way, besides the 356 day diet, and constant gym work off track, it's not like it was when we were kids and threw the bikes in the back of the pickup to go racin'... -- For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v |
Boat weight distribution..
On 3/31/10 2:45 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ting.com, says... "I am wrote in message ... In ting.com, says... "I am wrote in message ... In , says... On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:09:08 -0700 (PDT), wrote: OK, so I'm trying to get everything in order with my 23' Marquis and put some creature comforts in it. I plan on using a battery isolator and I'd thought of installing an 8-D battery, but there goes about 130 lb.s in one solid chunk, so I'm opting for a couple or three extra car batteries which will add up to about the same weight if not a bit more, but I can distribute them around the hull for a better balance. Plus, I'm taking a friends Min Kota 24 v. troller for 'emergency use' in case something might happen to the engine or drive. Therefore I can switch a couple batteries around into series to make 24 for the troller. It won't be much but it might help us to make it into somewhere or out of the way of something heavy if need be. I have a Nord refrigerator that got taken out of a camper that runs on 12v.or 120vac. I bought it for cold drinking water, juice etc. and it was cheap enough. OK so there's another 50lbs.. Plus I'm adding about 6 -12 gal. of fresh water in a plastic canister like for an outboard gas tank which will be supplied by an electric pump to a hand held shower head. I figure I'm adding about 300 + lb of extra gear to an already heavy hull, (Not counting anchor) but the boat has a weight load on the spec tag of 950 lb. Now I'm trying o figure out the best weight distribution formulas to make it easier on the boat concerning handling, fuel economy (Proper prop and trim tabs comes next) etc. Oh yeah, I forgot to mention I'm thinking on adding an extra 10 gallon fuel tank out of a derelict boat I stripped out for parts. And with all that , plus the wife and myself, I'm figuring to still be under the weight limit on the boat. How long are you planning to be out for one trip? A good cooler will keep stuff cold for four or five days, and weigh a lot less than 50 pounds (empty). I have great coolers and they are good for a day and a half maybe unless you keep filling the ice. I don't know where you use your coolers but I am out in 95 degree sun and very little shade in the summer, kind of like in a boat;) Scotty -- For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v Scotty, Ever use one of those folding canopies? If there is room at the track, these things are great for keeping people and coolers - cooler than sitting in direct sun. We use one anytime we're at an outdoor event (like birthday parties at the beach) and it's a life saver. Ours has the folding frame and rollup screen walls to keep the bugs out in the evenings. Yes, I do have one with the sides too but somethimes it's just over there and the cooler is over here for now;) I am not sure how long you have been reading but my daughter, I and our race team spend weekends out in the middle of nowhere, usually on top of some dusty old hill, rain, mud, whatever, and we go racin' dirtbikes! Sounds funny, but sometimes you don't even have time to worry about if the cooler is being moved all day out of the sun;) Most times actually, the big one stays right in the back of the truck so that get's real hot during the day, but we try. My new coleman, huge thing like four feet wide, does a bit better than our older coolers, I bet if I kept it out of direct sunlight it could keep ice a few days... Scotty -- For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v For some reason I was thinking track racing like MX where you would have your own pit area with a nice recliner (folding) for dad to rest in the shade and pull mechanic duties when required....ha!. Close enough, we do motocross, ...but things have changed since we took our dad's beer money and went track racing on the weekend, or crashed at the local sandpit. The competition is incredible and there is little time to sit around. I start at about 5:30 am for sign-ups, latrine visit, cook breakfast, and wake my daughter at about 8:30 for the drivers meeting. Racing starts at 9. From there it's air filter, tire pressure, oil, carb, chain adjustments, suspension and various other equipment changes and adjustments between each the 6 motos. Bikes are completely pressure- washed, dried with a leaf blower, wiped down and plastic/wheels, etc are wiped down with WD 40 to keep the mud off, radiator, oil checked, and the chain is also lubed between motos, I have maybe 45 minutes to do this and go potty, eat, get a drink, pet the dog, talk to the rider, whatever between motos. 15-20 minutes before each moto I start and warm the bike up for 5 minutes, and sometimes push it to the line depending on track rules. I go to the line and watch 95% of the races if I am not working on putting out another fire or helping another team member put out theirs. Staging is probably a 15 minute setup before each race. Remember the 45 minutes I noted I had to do my list between motos? Starting/staging is part of that;) Every other moto or so, the water barrel for the pressure washer needs to be hauled to the supply and refilled, dragged back, and the washer reprimed. That is a typical day of racing for me, and I am sure there a few things I forgot in the routine;) Racing ends about 5 pm and I have about an hour of maintenance to do like change out new oil, filter and fresh air filter if it is a two day race. She gets to go hit the showers and gets to go play with her friends for a while. At about 6pm or so I will lock the bikes in the trailer and start cooking and cleaning up the camp site from the day. Then I gather up the kids and eat, she gets to sleep between 10 and 11, hey, kids gotta' have some time with her friends. Sometimes after she's crashed, one of our team makes a run to town for supplies, gas, ice, etc... Sometimes Brian makes drinks and orders Dominoes, and some toothless old hippie pulls out a weird little guitar;) The next morning it starts all over, except instead of changing out filters and fluids at the end of the day, we break down camp and head home. So, anybody seen the cooler??? Yeah, I know it's probably too much info, but I am trying to get myself wound up for the season, all of this was done last year in the rain, every weekend at least one day it poured...yikes Either way, besides the 356 day diet, and constant gym work off track, it's not like it was when we were kids and threw the bikes in the back of the pickup to go racin'... Why...it's almost as if you...had a real job. -- http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym |
| All times are GMT +1. The time now is 01:12 AM. |
|
Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2014 BoatBanter.com