On Mar 26, 3:09*pm, jps wrote:
On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 17:55:36 -0400, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 08:10:11 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

Now they have taken over health care, their next target will be to
nationalize your 401K.

too late. wall street and the bush mafia already stole it.

Some of you may remember that right after the
election I said they would do this because ti is the only available
pool of money. *What they are proposing is a mandatory contribution by
employees into a govt managed retirement program. *Basically, this is
a way to take the money you are currently investing in a 401K and
replace it with worthless T-bills backed by govt debt.

gee is this like the program bush proposed to dump social security and
make people contribute to lehman bros, goldman sachs, etc?

how'd those firms do last year?

One of them was very successful at skimming suckers.

Heard their bonuses are destined to be just as fat as last year.

Scum.

Typical of bpuharic to not be able to understand that "voluntary"
means "not required". See bpuharic, nobody was going to "make"
anybody send any of their SS money anywhere. Whaddaya 'spect from the
"reality challenged" party.

On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 16:35:40 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Mar 26, 3:09*pm, jps wrote:
On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 17:55:36 -0400, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 08:10:11 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

Now they have taken over health care, their next target will be to
nationalize your 401K.

too late. wall street and the bush mafia already stole it.

Some of you may remember that right after the
election I said they would do this because ti is the only available
pool of money. *What they are proposing is a mandatory contribution by
employees into a govt managed retirement program. *Basically, this is
a way to take the money you are currently investing in a 401K and
replace it with worthless T-bills backed by govt debt.

gee is this like the program bush proposed to dump social security and
make people contribute to lehman bros, goldman sachs, etc?

how'd those firms do last year?

One of them was very successful at skimming suckers.

Heard their bonuses are destined to be just as fat as last year.

Scum.

Typical of bpuharic to not be able to understand that "voluntary"
means "not required". See bpuharic, nobody was going to "make"
anybody send any of their SS money anywhere. Whaddaya 'spect from the
"reality challenged" party.

sure they were. that was the whole point of the plan

guess you right whiners dont even know what you're in favor of.

On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 16:35:40 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Mar 26, 3:09*pm, jps wrote:
On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 17:55:36 -0400, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 08:10:11 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

Now they have taken over health care, their next target will be to
nationalize your 401K.

too late. wall street and the bush mafia already stole it.

Some of you may remember that right after the
election I said they would do this because ti is the only available
pool of money. *What they are proposing is a mandatory contribution by
employees into a govt managed retirement program. *Basically, this is
a way to take the money you are currently investing in a 401K and
replace it with worthless T-bills backed by govt debt.

gee is this like the program bush proposed to dump social security and
make people contribute to lehman bros, goldman sachs, etc?

how'd those firms do last year?

One of them was very successful at skimming suckers.

Heard their bonuses are destined to be just as fat as last year.

Scum.

Typical of bpuharic to not be able to understand that "voluntary"
means "not required". See bpuharic, nobody was going to "make"
anybody send any of their SS money anywhere. Whaddaya 'spect from the
"reality challenged" party.

Jackass, how much of your tax money (if you had taxable income) was
dedicated to proping up Goldman and the rest so they could profit
handsomely?

I guess you're not a taxpayer?

On 26/03/2010 8:59 PM, jps wrote:
On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 16:35:40 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Mar 26, 3:09 pm, wrote:
On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 17:55:36 -0400, wrote:
On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 08:10:11 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

Now they have taken over health care, their next target will be to
nationalize your 401K.

too late. wall street and the bush mafia already stole it.

Some of you may remember that right after the
election I said they would do this because ti is the only available
pool of money. What they are proposing is a mandatory contribution by
employees into a govt managed retirement program. Basically, this is
a way to take the money you are currently investing in a 401K and
replace it with worthless T-bills backed by govt debt.

gee is this like the program bush proposed to dump social security and
make people contribute to lehman bros, goldman sachs, etc?

how'd those firms do last year?

One of them was very successful at skimming suckers.

Heard their bonuses are destined to be just as fat as last year.

Scum.

Typical of bpuharic to not be able to understand that "voluntary"
means "not required". See bpuharic, nobody was going to "make"
anybody send any of their SS money anywhere. Whaddaya 'spect from the
"reality challenged" party.

Jackass, how much of your tax money (if you had taxable income) was
dedicated to proping up Goldman and the rest so they could profit
handsomely?

I guess you're not a taxpayer?

Probably isn't a taxpaer. Liberals are looking for handouts, not hand ups.

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On 26/03/2010 9:10 AM, Frogwatch wrote:
Now they have taken over health care, their next target will be to
nationalize your 401K. Some of you may remember that right after the
election I said they would do this because ti is the only available
pool of money. What they are proposing is a mandatory contribution by
employees into a govt managed retirement program. Basically, this is
a way to take the money you are currently investing in a 401K and
replace it with worthless T-bills backed by govt debt.

More hidious than that.

If you watch the markets like I do, virtually every bank and government
is trying to borrow low interest money as quickly as they can. The math
is simple. And idealistic but factually correct example.

Say I loan the government $100,000 in T-bills. I get say 1% interest
per year.

Next, governments print so much ponzi funny money the currency collapses
causing inflation. Say 33.34% per year for 3 years. People get 15%
raises in the same period, about 1/2 of inflation.

Now say before inflation you had $100,000 and it would purchase 1/3rd of
a $300,000 homes build cost. Now it only buys 1/5th of the same home in
a crappy economy.

But after inflation the home costs say $500,000 and you only have
$103,000... the cash lost purchasing value big time. But the government
revenues are increasing by at least 15%. Fewer low class welshers turn
in keys as rents go up.

This is a dirty debtor trick, trying to devalue the value of debt with
inflation. Trouble is that it isn't working the way democriter congress
thought it would. It caused a depression. And the Chinese are onto
this being they hold so much US government debt.

Lets face it, the US government is bankrupt just like GM, no hope in
every paying off it's currency debt. Not a hope in hell short of
slashing 1/2 of the federal government spending.

So what does Obama do to destroy the economy futher, more debt and
bigger government. He might not be an anti-christ, but the next best
thing too one.

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Politicians don't provide anything, the tax payers do.

On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 18:37:42 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:



But after inflation the home costs say $500,000 and you only have
$103,000... the cash lost purchasing value big time. But the government
revenues are increasing by at least 15%. Fewer low class welshers turn
in keys as rents go up.

This is a dirty debtor trick, trying to devalue the value of debt with
inflation. Trouble is that it isn't working the way democriter congress
thought it would. It caused a depression. And the Chinese are onto
this being they hold so much US government debt.

Lets face it, the US government is bankrupt just like GM, no hope in
every paying off it's currency debt. Not a hope in hell short of
slashing 1/2 of the federal government spending.

So what does Obama do to destroy the economy futher, more debt and
bigger government. He might not be an anti-christ, but the next best
thing too one.

notice the right can only bitch.

they have no solutions. they cut taxes for the rich by 75% in the last
30 years

the richest 1% had a 300% increase in wealth over the last 10 years

and what did it get the middle class?

so now the right is bitching that the rich are suffering...

and they have NO solutions. none.

On 26/03/2010 7:00 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 18:37:42 -0600,
wrote:



But after inflation the home costs say $500,000 and you only have
$103,000... the cash lost purchasing value big time. But the government
revenues are increasing by at least 15%. Fewer low class welshers turn
in keys as rents go up.

This is a dirty debtor trick, trying to devalue the value of debt with
inflation. Trouble is that it isn't working the way democriter congress
thought it would. It caused a depression. And the Chinese are onto
this being they hold so much US government debt.

Lets face it, the US government is bankrupt just like GM, no hope in
every paying off it's currency debt. Not a hope in hell short of
slashing 1/2 of the federal government spending.

So what does Obama do to destroy the economy futher, more debt and
bigger government. He might not be an anti-christ, but the next best
thing too one.

notice the right can only bitch.

they have no solutions. they cut taxes for the rich by 75% in the last
30 years

the richest 1% had a 300% increase in wealth over the last 10 years

and what did it get the middle class?

so now the right is bitching that the rich are suffering...

and they have NO solutions. none.

Money is attracted to those with a good firm grip on reality and know
how to manage it.

This middle class conservative-libertarian cleaned up pretty good.

Solution, change your attitude. Liberalism is for lazy suckers and the
naive. Get off your fat ass and make it happen.

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Politicians don't provide anything, the tax payers do.

On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 07:50:48 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 26/03/2010 7:00 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 18:37:42 -0600,
wrote:


they have no solutions. they cut taxes for the rich by 75% in the last
30 years

the richest 1% had a 300% increase in wealth over the last 10 years

and what did it get the middle class?

so now the right is bitching that the rich are suffering...

and they have NO solutions. none.

Money is attracted to those with a good firm grip on reality and know
how to manage it.

no, it's not. it's attracted to thieves. like wall street. you right
wingers think that rich people are always rich because they're good

by your logic, bernie madoff is god.


This middle class conservative-libertarian cleaned up pretty good.

well the middle class got raped. courtesy of your alan greenspan,
freemarket friends

notice how the right wing thinks the rich deserve to be rich....and
those of us in the middle class deserve to pay for not being rich


Solution, change your attitude. Liberalism is for lazy suckers and the
naive. Get off your fat ass and make it happen.

and conservativism is for shiftless thieves who know they can always
raid the middle class coffers to pay for their rich friends