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On Mar 16, 12:39 pm, HK wrote:
On 3/16/10 11:14 AM, Loogypicker wrote:





On Mar 16, 10:23 am, wrote:
On 3/16/10 10:13 AM, Wayne.B wrote:

On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 21:02:05 -0400,
wrote:

I used to sail quite a bit and, in fact, owned a sailboat very
similar
to yours. I found sailing it on Chesapeake Bay to be very
relaxing and
peaceful.

Sailing is a slow and outmoded form of transportation which usually
results in going around in circles while cursing power boaters. I'd
rather fly to where I'm going than waste my time slogging around
with
something like that.

Well, sailing doesn't have to be slow...I saw one sailboat out in San
Diego in 2008 that could sail circles around your barge...she just
won
the America's cup.

I enjoyed my sailboat the three years on the bay I had her. She *was*
not very fast.

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Naw. I'd rather fly. My round trip to costa rica cost me about $370
in
airfare, and took about seven hours in the air. Once there, did
plenty
of boating and fishing. To me, being where I want to be is a lot more
fun than slogging my way there. To each his own

You still cannot think in the abstract, eh, s.f.b.?

Sailing around on a relatively small body of water, like Chesapeake Bay,
was fun for me when we did it. Taking a slow trawler barge to get to
Costa Rica would not be fun for me, now or back then. I wanted to get to
C.R. so I could enjoy my time off *there*, not waste my off getting
there. And, as I have posted many times, "to each his own."

With a couple of breaks, this summer one of my clients will want me to
attend a week-long meeting in Geneva. It's very tentative at the moment,
but...I hope to fly to London, grab the Eurostar to Paris, and then the
Lyria TGV to Geneva. On the way back, we'll rent a car so we can see
some more of Switzerland and a decent part of France. High speed planes,
high speed trains, lower speed car... :)

You know, to each his own.

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You just don't mind making yourself look like a complete idiot, do
you? Do you honestly think that one single person believes you here
after all of the lies you've told?

Hehe... Geneva... he's funny....

No, not a soul here believes one word he writes. Even his buddies...
they just won't admit it. Now, if he said he *wasn't* going to Geneva,
I'd think that he was. What a putz that boy is.

--Mike

--Mike

I agree. Krause lies and gets caught at it. What a putz.

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On 3/15/2010 9:02 PM, HK wrote:
On 3/15/10 8:53 PM, Frogwatch wrote:


I used to sail quite a bit and, in fact, owned a sailboat very similar
to yours. I found sailing it on Chesapeake Bay to be very relaxing and
peaceful. Of course, My boat wasn't falling apart around me as yours is.

I go fishing to relax. I don't really give a damn whether I catch any.

Of course, I am a VERY VERY relaxed guy, so I really don't have to boat
much. In fact, if you look at my posting history, you will see that I
normally go boating about 3 or 4 times a year. I can't imagine
anything worse than "boating" the way Whine boats. My god, what a waste
of time, spending day after day on a boat, just enjoying yourself.

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On 3/16/10 9:19 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:08:05 -0400, wrote:

I had a sense of having
accomplished something. You don't sit in a chair reading a book or
snoozing. You are navigating, weather watching, planning, checking the boat
mechanically, decision making and learning something.

That's all true, plus one of the more memorable quotes from "the
Perfect Storm" (the book): "No one ever gets tired of watching the
water".

Sounds like you're about ready for another ICW cruise.

International cruising has yet another planning dimension that I'd
never fully appreciated until this trip. The Bahamas are easy by
comparison: You check in at the first port of entry, pay your $300,
get your cruising permit, and then you can come and go as you please
for up to 6 months, anywhere in the Bahamas.

Down in the Caribbean almost every island, or group of islands, is a
different country. You not only have to check in with customs,
immigration and the Port Authority, known as "clearing in", but you
also have to "clear out" out before you leave. If you don't clear
out, then you can't check in to the next country because they will ask
for your "out clearance" documents. It's a bit of a pain to those of
us who are used to coming and going as we please but the rules are
fairly easy to follow once you understand them. It does take some
planning however.

Another challenge is weather forecasting and planning. There are no
weather channels on the VHF radio once you leave Puerto Rico and the
US Virgin Islands. Local radio and television stations are few and
far between, and usually in a language other than English. That
leaves the internet, which has some really good weather resources when
a connection is available, and various broadcast services on high
frequency single side band radio (HF SSB). The HF SSB services
require some specialized equipment and a certain amount of skill to
receive and interpret the broadcasts. With the right equipment and/or
computer software you can actually receive various weather charts and
maps by fax 4 times a day. There are also various cruiser nets on
both VHF and SSB where weather information is exchanged, and some
people subscribe to private weather services such as the well known
Chris Parker. Chris communicates with his clients by SSB radio, sat
phone, or cell phone where it is available.


Plus all that watchstanding, never-ending maintenance, gear that craps
out, the joy of searching for parts or a decent repair yard or both,
why, there's just no rest for the weary cruiser. And when you do get
some sleep, it's in a marina with a boat full of drunks down the dock or
in a quiet, charming cove where the local druggies row out, slit your
throats, and steal your boat.

It's a joy to get home alive, plop down in a real, unmusty bed, and just
chill.

Right?


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Eisboch wrote:
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Have fun with your guitars.

The fun part of the guitars is the people you meet and the education I am
getting from the
luthier I work with.

The people fall into three basic categories. The first are "players"
meaning people that actively gig publicly and are, in their minds, one song
away from becoming famous. Some make it. Most don't. But it's enjoyable
to witness the passion they have in trying.

The second is the one that amazes me the most. There are more decent, very
talented closet guitarists around than I ever imagined. They come from all
walks of life ... from plumbers to doctors. They don't play publicly but
have highly developed playing skills from years of casual practice as a
hobby. Some are better than the ones gigging every other night at clubs.

The third is the occasional pro that walks in the door and proceeds to blow
you away. Haven't had many, but the few that have come in the shop quickly
demonstrate the difference between a professional musician and us amateurs.
There's one old guy that comes in fairly regularly. He likes playing
traditional, wide necked classical guitars, so I found and purchased a
fairly decent one that I keep at the shop for his visits. When he shows
up, the amps are all turned off and he entertains whoever happens to be in
the shop at the time with some of the most beautiful classical guitar
playing I've heard. It's one thing to watch a video or listen to a
recording. It's quite another to watch someone live playing flawlessly and
with expression. This guy also plays jazz guitars using traditional chord
melodies and occasionally a Fender Telecaster.
One day I finally asked him, "Ok .. *who* are you?" Turns out he used to
play in the Louie Armstrong band.

Then there is the luthier I mentioned. Before meeting him a guitar was just
a device with strings that you plucked to me. From him I've learned the
history and some of the aspects of what makes a guitar work, from physics to
the tone woods that are used. A guitar is one of the most unique musical
instruments in existence when you get into the mathematics of the fretboard
and formation possibilities of chords.
For example, there's only a few ways to play a "C" chord on a piano, yet
there are at least half a dozen ways to play it on a guitar. I don't know
why, but it's interesting to me.

It's a fun hobby and keeps me off the streets and out of bars.

Eisboch


All very interesting. And it not only keeps you off the streets and out
of the bars, you don't have time to muck the stable.

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On 3/17/10 1:59 AM, D.Duck wrote:
mgg wrote:


"Loogypicker" wrote in message
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On Mar 16, 12:39 pm, HK wrote:
On 3/16/10 11:14 AM, Loogypicker wrote:





On Mar 16, 10:23 am, wrote:
On 3/16/10 10:13 AM, Wayne.B wrote:

On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 21:02:05 -0400,
wrote:

I used to sail quite a bit and, in fact, owned a sailboat very
similar
to yours. I found sailing it on Chesapeake Bay to be very
relaxing and
peaceful.

Sailing is a slow and outmoded form of transportation which usually
results in going around in circles while cursing power boaters. I'd
rather fly to where I'm going than waste my time slogging around
with
something like that.

Well, sailing doesn't have to be slow...I saw one sailboat out in
San
Diego in 2008 that could sail circles around your barge...she
just won
the America's cup.

I enjoyed my sailboat the three years on the bay I had her. She
*was*
not very fast.

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WHHHOOOOSSSSHHHHHH!!!!!!
Don't you remember spewing THIS gem, fatass?

Naw. I'd rather fly. My round trip to costa rica cost me about $370
in
airfare, and took about seven hours in the air. Once there, did
plenty
of boating and fishing. To me, being where I want to be is a lot more
fun than slogging my way there. To each his own

You still cannot think in the abstract, eh, s.f.b.?

Sailing around on a relatively small body of water, like Chesapeake
Bay,
was fun for me when we did it. Taking a slow trawler barge to get to
Costa Rica would not be fun for me, now or back then. I wanted to
get to
C.R. so I could enjoy my time off *there*, not waste my off getting
there. And, as I have posted many times, "to each his own."

With a couple of breaks, this summer one of my clients will want me to
attend a week-long meeting in Geneva. It's very tentative at the
moment,
but...I hope to fly to London, grab the Eurostar to Paris, and then the
Lyria TGV to Geneva. On the way back, we'll rent a car so we can see
some more of Switzerland and a decent part of France. High speed
planes,
high speed trains, lower speed car... :)

You know, to each his own.

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You just don't mind making yourself look like a complete idiot, do
you? Do you honestly think that one single person believes you here
after all of the lies you've told?

Hehe... Geneva... he's funny....

No, not a soul here believes one word he writes. Even his buddies...
they just won't admit it. Now, if he said he *wasn't* going to Geneva,
I'd think that he was. What a putz that boy is.

--Mike

--Mike


He doesn't care what nayone here thinks. Yeah, right.


Wait...you think I should care what people I don't know and never will
meet who post in a usenet newsgroup think? People who post with an
alias? People who are right-wing trash? I'm supposed to care what people
like you think? Why?

One of the remaining advantages of this country is that it is fairly
large. The odds are in my favor that I'm never going to encounter you or
your fellow teabaggers in the real world. Heck, the odds are in my favor
that I'll never encounter john herring in person again, and we both live
in the same general area. In fact, I haven't seen that particular chunk
of racist right-wing trash since...the summer of 2003, nearly seven
years ago. He was an unpleasant prick then, and as he's aged and
deteriorated further, has only gotten worse.

Ta-ta.







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"HK" wrote in message
m...


Plus all that watchstanding, never-ending maintenance, gear that craps
out, the joy of searching for parts or a decent repair yard or both, why,
there's just no rest for the weary cruiser. And when you do get some
sleep, it's in a marina with a boat full of drunks down the dock or in a
quiet, charming cove where the local druggies row out, slit your throats,
and steal your boat.

Right?


Apparently your traumatic boating experiences have affected your respect for
boating.
I have two suggestions:

a. Purchase a quality boat.
b. Move to a quality marina.

Eisboch

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On 3/17/2010 6:58 AM, HK wrote:
On 3/17/10 1:59 AM, D.Duck wrote:
mgg wrote:


"Loogypicker" wrote in message
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On Mar 16, 12:39 pm, HK wrote:
On 3/16/10 11:14 AM, Loogypicker wrote:





On Mar 16, 10:23 am, wrote:
On 3/16/10 10:13 AM, Wayne.B wrote:

On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 21:02:05 -0400,
wrote:

I used to sail quite a bit and, in fact, owned a sailboat very
similar
to yours. I found sailing it on Chesapeake Bay to be very
relaxing and
peaceful.

Sailing is a slow and outmoded form of transportation which
usually
results in going around in circles while cursing power boaters.
I'd
rather fly to where I'm going than waste my time slogging around
with
something like that.

Well, sailing doesn't have to be slow...I saw one sailboat out in
San
Diego in 2008 that could sail circles around your barge...she
just won
the America's cup.

I enjoyed my sailboat the three years on the bay I had her. She
*was*
not very fast.

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WHHHOOOOSSSSHHHHHH!!!!!!
Don't you remember spewing THIS gem, fatass?

Naw. I'd rather fly. My round trip to costa rica cost me about $370
in
airfare, and took about seven hours in the air. Once there, did
plenty
of boating and fishing. To me, being where I want to be is a lot
more
fun than slogging my way there. To each his own

You still cannot think in the abstract, eh, s.f.b.?

Sailing around on a relatively small body of water, like Chesapeake
Bay,
was fun for me when we did it. Taking a slow trawler barge to get to
Costa Rica would not be fun for me, now or back then. I wanted to
get to
C.R. so I could enjoy my time off *there*, not waste my off getting
there. And, as I have posted many times, "to each his own."

With a couple of breaks, this summer one of my clients will want me to
attend a week-long meeting in Geneva. It's very tentative at the
moment,
but...I hope to fly to London, grab the Eurostar to Paris, and then
the
Lyria TGV to Geneva. On the way back, we'll rent a car so we can see
some more of Switzerland and a decent part of France. High speed
planes,
high speed trains, lower speed car... :)

You know, to each his own.

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You just don't mind making yourself look like a complete idiot, do
you? Do you honestly think that one single person believes you here
after all of the lies you've told?

Hehe... Geneva... he's funny....

No, not a soul here believes one word he writes. Even his buddies...
they just won't admit it. Now, if he said he *wasn't* going to Geneva,
I'd think that he was. What a putz that boy is.

--Mike

--Mike


He doesn't care what nayone here thinks. Yeah, right.


Wait...you think I should care what people I don't know and never will
meet who post in a usenet newsgroup think? People who post with an
alias? People who are right-wing trash? I'm supposed to care what people
like you think? Why?

One of the remaining advantages of this country is that it is fairly
large. The odds are in my favor that I'm never going to encounter you or
your fellow teabaggers in the real world. Heck, the odds are in my favor
that I'll never encounter john herring in person again, and we both live
in the same general area. In fact, I haven't seen that particular chunk
of racist right-wing trash since...the summer of 2003, nearly seven
years ago. He was an unpleasant prick then, and as he's aged and
deteriorated further, has only gotten worse.

Ta-ta.


That prick would not go boating with me, and I really wanted him to be
my friend. I mean, I just wanted anyone would would go boating with me.
As it was, I had to sell me Big Parker, and trade it in for my Little
Low Transom Parker.

By the way, the fact that I try to live a Walter Mitty existence in
rec.boats does not mean I am desperately seeking emotional support in
rec.boats. NO IT DOESN'T.

Ta-Ta

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On 3/17/2010 7:06 AM, Eisboch wrote:
wrote in message
m...


Plus all that watchstanding, never-ending maintenance, gear that craps
out, the joy of searching for parts or a decent repair yard or both, why,
there's just no rest for the weary cruiser. And when you do get some
sleep, it's in a marina with a boat full of drunks down the dock or in a
quiet, charming cove where the local druggies row out, slit your throats,
and steal your boat.

Right?


Apparently your traumatic boating experiences have affected your respect for
boating.
I have two suggestions:

a. Purchase a quality boat.
b. Move to a quality marina.

Eisboch



WHY? I rarely ever use the boat I have.

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On 3/17/10 7:06 AM, Eisboch wrote:
wrote in message
m...


Plus all that watchstanding, never-ending maintenance, gear that craps
out, the joy of searching for parts or a decent repair yard or both, why,
there's just no rest for the weary cruiser. And when you do get some
sleep, it's in a marina with a boat full of drunks down the dock or in a
quiet, charming cove where the local druggies row out, slit your throats,
and steal your boat.

Right?


Apparently your traumatic boating experiences have affected your respect for
boating.
I have two suggestions:

a. Purchase a quality boat.
b. Move to a quality marina.

Eisboch




D'oh. I've had no "traumatic" boating experiences. My response was based
upon what I've read here and in the cruising newsgroup in the
*charm* of long-distance cruising. The only "issues" I've had with boat
quality the last two decades have actually been with two Merc engines
with blown stators. I've had no "quality" issues with either of my
Parkers or their Yamaha outboards.

The sort of "cruising" most frequently described here...well, as I have
stated previously, to each his own. Some of you boys seem to have a
rough time understanding that concept, eh? :)

My little vacation a couple of weeks ago provided me with a lot of
"boating" and fishing, and was very relaxing. No maintenance, no
watch-standing, no searching for parts, no worries about sandbars,
shallows or reefs, no druggies, and, every night, good eats, no dishes
to clean, a terrific room with a comfy bed, a nice shower, and a
properly plumbed toilet. Oh, and some really interesting fellow guests
with whom to swap the day's war stories.

Since I am *not* retired and, hopefully, will be able to avoid such a
state, I value the handful of vacations I get to take each year. To me,
it's more fun to "be there" than to "get there."

And, once again, to each his own.



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"HK" wrote in message
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On 3/17/10 7:06 AM, Eisboch wrote:

wrote in message
m...


Plus all that watchstanding, never-ending maintenance, gear that craps
out, the joy of searching for parts or a decent repair yard or both,
why,
there's just no rest for the weary cruiser. And when you do get some
sleep, it's in a marina with a boat full of drunks down the dock or in a
quiet, charming cove where the local druggies row out, slit your
throats,
and steal your boat.

Right?


Apparently your traumatic boating experiences have affected your respect
for
boating.
I have two suggestions:

a. Purchase a quality boat.
b. Move to a quality marina.

Eisboch




D'oh. I've had no "traumatic" boating experiences. My response was based
upon what I've read here and in the cruising newsgroup in the *charm*
of long-distance cruising. The only "issues" I've had with boat quality
the last two decades have actually been with two Merc engines with blown
stators. I've had no "quality" issues with either of my Parkers or their
Yamaha outboards.

The sort of "cruising" most frequently described here...well, as I have
stated previously, to each his own. Some of you boys seem to have a rough
time understanding that concept, eh? :)


Some of you boys seem to have a rough time understanding the concept of
humor.

It was a joke.

Eisboch