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Naw. Jest cracker talk from them's too scared of a black man being
Prez. Like I said, we colored folk fish too.
You ain't said nothin but scare talk. Nothin. Not a damn detail.
Why's that, peckerwood?

yeah it's amazing. a rich white guy destroys the economy and the
middle class

and they blame it on the darkie president

You sound really stupid and you probably are. Obama has over spent more
in
the last year than Bush did in 4 years

to repair the damage bush and his wall street playboy buddies did to
the economy

yet you guys blame it on the darkie.

speaking of stupid...

. And Obama's next budget is coming
in with a $1.4 trillion deficit amount.

irrelevant. the interest after all his spending will amount to 3.4% of
GDP...which is about the same as bush number one spent on debt service

you right wing racists are just too stupid to be believed

He is Proposing over spending more
in the next 10 years, that every President, including Bush II, has
overspent
total!

and if he hadnt rescued the economy? what life would she have with 25%
unemployment?

of course you wont answer....




You sound more stupid each day. And more racist. Your wife know you are
posting racist comments? Might get her fired. We have near 25% real
unemployment. What has the deficit spending accomplished in reducing
unemployment, except for saving some mostly overpaid government jobs?
The states are in deep debt due to overspending and over employment. We
could have increased real jobs for less money by letting all taxpayers
have a free ride for the year. And you would not be looking at Goldman
Sacksus giving out billions in bonus money. The Goldman-sacks that got
100 cents on the dollar for debt, while all others got 3 cents on the
dollar. Paulson and Geitner have to protect their former employer and
investments.

If it's possible for you, read the recent Atlantic article about Geitner.
Hint: He's a lot smarter than you.

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He is richer, not smarter. That makes Bernie Madoff smarter than both of us
together if based on $$$$.

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I am middle class, and my kids are middle class and they are getting
screwed
by this administration and the Wall Street you hate

this administration is the reason we dont have 25% unemployment.

you prefer to be jobless and have your kids in the streets? that your
preference?

. How come we still have
all this unemployment and middle class with little spending money and Wall
Street is giving out billions of bucks in bonus money?

because that's the way we, the middle class, voted. we voted ALWAYS to
protect the rich. to bail out the rich. and we're doing it again. the
tea baggers main goal:

protect the rich.




It is a majority Democrat controlled Congress, it is a Democrat POTUS. Who
is protecting the rich?

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On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:18:33 -0700, "Bill McKee"
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Bush screwed the economy. You are somewhat correct. Throw in both a
Republican and Democrat Controlled Congress and you got it more
correct.
But Obama knew the problems coming in. He has screwed it up royally.
His
spending is out of control, not helping and laying the groundwork for a
huge
crash. Make 1929 look good, maybe.

really? 25% unemployment looks good?

oh. i forgot. you're right wing. to the right wing, the middle class
should ALWAYS get screwed



I am middle class, and my kids are middle class and they are getting
screwed by this administration and the Wall Street you hate. How come we
still have all this unemployment and middle class with little spending
money and Wall Street is giving out billions of bucks in bonus money?



Middle class huh? Maybe barely. Why don't you tell us about all the money
you made on your patents? Then, you can claim I'm not a PA.

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I did not make a lot of money on my patents. I made a lot of money being a
really good engineer and investing the money that I had by living below my
means.

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"Obama knew the problems coming in." Yet, his actions didn't take
effect until he was well into the position, and the results when
they did have been a slowing of the job loss, a stablization of
the economy, and he's on track to save billions if not trillions.
But, of course the Republicans have a plan... the status quo. To
hell with getting the spending under control in a meaningful way,
reform the financial system, reform the healthcare system, reform
the school system. Just say no!

My crystal ball sure doesn't show the savings of "billions if not
trillions". Are you looking through rose colored glasses?




I'm using the same source as everyone else... the CBO. If you have
a different source, I'd be happy to look at it, as long as it's not
Rush/Beck/Palin/Cheney or Faux News.



I just can't see ridding this country of its "fiscal cancer" anytime
soon. I hope I'm wrong. I know what the CBO says, too many
variables and unforseen circustances. For that matter it could go
either way.


I agree with this, and I hope we're both wrong. Of course, the CBO
can't know everything.

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Where are the billions in savings? When do they kick in? Look at the
estimated deficits even after Obama if he makes it 2 terms.
http://www.cbo.gov/

"CBO and JCT estimate that enacting both pieces of legislation-H.R.
3590 and the reconciliation proposal- would produce a net reduction in
federal deficits of $138 billion over the 2010-2019 period as result of
changes in direct spending and revenue (see the top panel of Table 1
and subtitle A of title II on Table 5)."

and

"CBO has not extrapolated estimates further into the future because the
uncertainties surrounding them are magnified even more. However, in
view of the projected net savings during the decade following the
10-year budget window, CBO anticipates that the reconciliation proposal
would probably continue to reduce budget deficits relative to those
under current law in subsequent decades, assuming that all of its
provisions would continue to be fully implemented."


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$138 billion in deficits? BFD! We are looking at Trillions of
deficits. A Trillion is a thousand billion. 138 is negligible.

You don't know what you're talking about... that's $138B in deficit
_reduction_. The second decade will see $1.3T.

Yes, you're an idiot.

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The 2nd decade will definately see a reduction in deficits. Not because
of anything positive that Obama is doing now. You realize that the 2nd
decade will be 2 or 6 years after Obama? We will have such high debt in
the 2nd decade that will will not be able to borrow, so we are going to be
like Greece and have to tighten our belts. Big time cinching of the belt.

Oh no!! The sky is falling! Get your umbrella ready!

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On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 15:45:52 -0600, Frogloogyherringsnacks
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Naw. Jest cracker talk from them's too scared of a black man
being
Prez. Like I said, we colored folk fish too.
You ain't said nothin but scare talk. Nothin. Not a damn
detail.
Why's that, peckerwood?

yeah it's amazing. a rich white guy destroys the economy and
the
middle class

and they blame it on the darkie president

You sound really stupid and you probably are. Obama has over
spent more
in the last year than Bush did in 4 years. And Obama's next
budget is
coming in with a $1.4 trillion deficit amount. He is Proposing
over
spending more in the next 10 years, that every President,
including Bush
II, has overspent total! My new granddaughter is due tomorrow.
She will
enter the world with a $74,000 debt burden. And you want no
pain due to
the overspending by both Dem's and Republican's you have voted
for. We
all deserve a severe beating for letting our elected
representatives,
especially the present ones who are setting records, over spend.
We
should revolt at the idea they can screw the people and then get
full pay
for the rest of their lives. We need to hold their feet to the
fire to
both stop spending like drunken sailors and get rid of pensions
that
reward them as if they were royalty.



As usual, you're just wrong....

http://www.forbes.com/2009/01/19/oba...19hassett.html




That report is 14 months old.




Ok. Produce something more recent. Bush was much worse and ruined
the economy, but it's Obama's fault, right?

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Bush screwed the economy. You are somewhat correct. Throw in both
a Republican and Democrat Controlled Congress and you got it more
correct. But Obama knew the problems coming in. He has screwed it
up royally. His spending is out of control, not helping and laying
the groundwork for a huge crash. Make 1929 look good, maybe.



"Obama knew the problems coming in." Yet, his actions didn't take
effect until he was well into the position, and the results when they
did have been a slowing of the job loss, a stablization of the
economy, and he's on track to save billions if not trillions. But, of
course the Republicans have a plan... the status quo. To hell with
getting the spending under control in a meaningful way, reform the
financial system, reform the healthcare system, reform the school
system. Just say no!

Keep flailing away. I'm sure someone out there is listening.

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The only reason the layoffs are slowing is at least 20% of the
workforce is out of work. Lots of the working at underemployed. How
did that bank bailout help? Stopped foreclosures? Helped in loan
liquidity?

Really? The only reason. And you know this because you have some inside
information? Or, more likely, you're listening to someone's talking
point.

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Nope, I have an analytical brain. You have a brain?



So far, you haven't shown it in public.

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And another brainless comment by nom-de-dum

And another demonstration of your lack of ability to cite facts.

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I am middle class, and my kids are middle class and they are getting
screwed
by this administration and the Wall Street you hate

this administration is the reason we dont have 25% unemployment.

you prefer to be jobless and have your kids in the streets? that your
preference?

. How come we still have
all this unemployment and middle class with little spending money and
Wall
Street is giving out billions of bucks in bonus money?

because that's the way we, the middle class, voted. we voted ALWAYS to
protect the rich. to bail out the rich. and we're doing it again. the
tea baggers main goal:

protect the rich.




It is a majority Democrat controlled Congress, it is a Democrat POTUS.
Who is protecting the rich?

You, apparently. Someone has to. They need your help!

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On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:18:33 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:




Bush screwed the economy. You are somewhat correct. Throw in both a
Republican and Democrat Controlled Congress and you got it more
correct.
But Obama knew the problems coming in. He has screwed it up royally.
His
spending is out of control, not helping and laying the groundwork for a
huge
crash. Make 1929 look good, maybe.

really? 25% unemployment looks good?

oh. i forgot. you're right wing. to the right wing, the middle class
should ALWAYS get screwed



I am middle class, and my kids are middle class and they are getting
screwed by this administration and the Wall Street you hate. How come
we still have all this unemployment and middle class with little
spending money and Wall Street is giving out billions of bucks in bonus
money?



Middle class huh? Maybe barely. Why don't you tell us about all the money
you made on your patents? Then, you can claim I'm not a PA.

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Nom=de=Plume


I did not make a lot of money on my patents. I made a lot of money being
a really good engineer and investing the money that I had by living below
my means.

Thus, you are middle class. Way to go. You show them rich folk.

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On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 15:45:52 -0600, Frogloogyherringsnacks
wrote:



Naw. Jest cracker talk from them's too scared of a black man being
Prez. Like I said, we colored folk fish too.
You ain't said nothin but scare talk. Nothin. Not a damn detail.
Why's that, peckerwood?

yeah it's amazing. a rich white guy destroys the economy and the
middle class

and they blame it on the darkie president

You sound really stupid and you probably are. Obama has over spent
more in
the last year than Bush did in 4 years

to repair the damage bush and his wall street playboy buddies did to
the economy

yet you guys blame it on the darkie.

speaking of stupid...

. And Obama's next budget is coming
in with a $1.4 trillion deficit amount.

irrelevant. the interest after all his spending will amount to 3.4% of
GDP...which is about the same as bush number one spent on debt service

you right wing racists are just too stupid to be believed

He is Proposing over spending more
in the next 10 years, that every President, including Bush II, has
overspent
total!

and if he hadnt rescued the economy? what life would she have with 25%
unemployment?

of course you wont answer....




You sound more stupid each day. And more racist. Your wife know you
are posting racist comments? Might get her fired. We have near 25%
real unemployment. What has the deficit spending accomplished in
reducing unemployment, except for saving some mostly overpaid government
jobs? The states are in deep debt due to overspending and over
employment. We could have increased real jobs for less money by letting
all taxpayers have a free ride for the year. And you would not be
looking at Goldman Sacksus giving out billions in bonus money. The
Goldman-sacks that got 100 cents on the dollar for debt, while all
others got 3 cents on the dollar. Paulson and Geitner have to protect
their former employer and investments.

If it's possible for you, read the recent Atlantic article about Geitner.
Hint: He's a lot smarter than you.

--
Nom=de=Plume


He is richer, not smarter. That makes Bernie Madoff smarter than both of
us together if based on $$$$.

Richer than you? For sure.
Smarter than you? For sure.

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On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:18:33 -0700, "Bill McKee"
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Bush screwed the economy. You are somewhat correct. Throw in both a
Republican and Democrat Controlled Congress and you got it more
correct.
But Obama knew the problems coming in. He has screwed it up royally.
His
spending is out of control, not helping and laying the groundwork for
a huge
crash. Make 1929 look good, maybe.

really? 25% unemployment looks good?

oh. i forgot. you're right wing. to the right wing, the middle class
should ALWAYS get screwed



I am middle class, and my kids are middle class and they are getting
screwed by this administration and the Wall Street you hate. How come
we still have all this unemployment and middle class with little
spending money and Wall Street is giving out billions of bucks in bonus
money?



Middle class huh? Maybe barely. Why don't you tell us about all the
money you made on your patents? Then, you can claim I'm not a PA.

--
Nom=de=Plume


I did not make a lot of money on my patents. I made a lot of money being
a really good engineer and investing the money that I had by living below
my means.

Thus, you are middle class. Way to go. You show them rich folk.

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Don't you wish you could have been a successful patent atty.

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Bush screwed the economy. You are somewhat correct. Throw in both a
Republican and Democrat Controlled Congress and you got it more
correct.
But Obama knew the problems coming in. He has screwed it up royally.
His
spending is out of control, not helping and laying the groundwork for
a huge
crash. Make 1929 look good, maybe.

really? 25% unemployment looks good?

oh. i forgot. you're right wing. to the right wing, the middle class
should ALWAYS get screwed



I am middle class, and my kids are middle class and they are getting
screwed by this administration and the Wall Street you hate. How come
we still have all this unemployment and middle class with little
spending money and Wall Street is giving out billions of bucks in bonus
money?



Middle class huh? Maybe barely. Why don't you tell us about all the
money you made on your patents? Then, you can claim I'm not a PA.

--
Nom=de=Plume


I did not make a lot of money on my patents. I made a lot of money being
a really good engineer and investing the money that I had by living below
my means.

Thus, you are middle class. Way to go. You show them rich folk.

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Don't you wish you could have been a successful patent atty.



This from a guy who worked as a home handyman and hired illegal workers
from home depot shape-ups?

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