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Canuck57[_9_] February 20th 10 02:36 PM

obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 
On 19/02/2010 9:41 PM, bpuharic wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/17/bu...nhardt.html?hp

Just look at the outside evaluations of the stimulus. Perhaps the
best-known economic research firms are IHS Global Insight,
Macroeconomic Advisers and Moody’s Economy.com. They all estimate that
the bill has added 1.6 million to 1.8 million jobs so far and that its
ultimate impact will be roughly 2.5 million jobs. The Congressional
Budget Office, an independent agency, considers these estimates to be
conservative.

------------

this is after the recent USAtoday interview of 50 economists, where
the median estimate of job creation was about 1.5M jobs

seems everyone knows the stimulus is working

except the right wing


Even if it were say 2 million jobs, that is about $1 million per job on
a $2 trillion debt-spending spree.

Like usually, not very cost effective no mater how you look at it.

But if they balanced the governemnts pending, and say eliminated 50% or
more of fedeal income tax, bet the jobs would be created coat to coast
was the people would actually keep more of their own money and it will
not "disappear" or be skimmed by the government.

On a dollar cost basis, at best Obamanomics is a dismal monumentus failure.

nom=de=plume February 20th 10 06:23 PM

obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 
"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
On 19/02/2010 9:41 PM, bpuharic wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/17/bu...nhardt.html?hp

Just look at the outside evaluations of the stimulus. Perhaps the
best-known economic research firms are IHS Global Insight,
Macroeconomic Advisers and Moody’s Economy.com. They all estimate that
the bill has added 1.6 million to 1.8 million jobs so far and that its
ultimate impact will be roughly 2.5 million jobs. The Congressional
Budget Office, an independent agency, considers these estimates to be
conservative.

------------

this is after the recent USAtoday interview of 50 economists, where
the median estimate of job creation was about 1.5M jobs

seems everyone knows the stimulus is working

except the right wing


Even if it were say 2 million jobs, that is about $1 million per job on a
$2 trillion debt-spending spree.

Like usually, not very cost effective no mater how you look at it.

But if they balanced the governemnts pending, and say eliminated 50% or
more of fedeal income tax, bet the jobs would be created coat to coast was
the people would actually keep more of their own money and it will not
"disappear" or be skimmed by the government.

On a dollar cost basis, at best Obamanomics is a dismal monumentus
failure.



Fortunately for you, it doesn't matter, since you're not an American and you
hate our country.

--
Nom=de=Plume



Canuck57[_9_] February 20th 10 08:09 PM

obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 
On 20/02/2010 11:23 AM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...
On 19/02/2010 9:41 PM, bpuharic wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/17/bu...nhardt.html?hp

Just look at the outside evaluations of the stimulus. Perhaps the
best-known economic research firms are IHS Global Insight,
Macroeconomic Advisers and Moody’s Economy.com. They all estimate that
the bill has added 1.6 million to 1.8 million jobs so far and that its
ultimate impact will be roughly 2.5 million jobs. The Congressional
Budget Office, an independent agency, considers these estimates to be
conservative.

------------

this is after the recent USAtoday interview of 50 economists, where
the median estimate of job creation was about 1.5M jobs

seems everyone knows the stimulus is working

except the right wing


Even if it were say 2 million jobs, that is about $1 million per job on a
$2 trillion debt-spending spree.

Like usually, not very cost effective no mater how you look at it.

But if they balanced the governemnts pending, and say eliminated 50% or
more of fedeal income tax, bet the jobs would be created coat to coast was
the people would actually keep more of their own money and it will not
"disappear" or be skimmed by the government.

On a dollar cost basis, at best Obamanomics is a dismal monumentus
failure.



Fortunately for you, it doesn't matter, since you're not an American and you
hate our country.


Unfortunately Caanda is in lock step with the US.... this bailout horse
**** is going to drag Canada right into it. We are already taxed up the
ass and can't afford the GM, Chrysler and bank screw over.

your kind of guy February 20th 10 08:23 PM

obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 13:09:20 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:

Unfortunately Caanda is in lock step with the US.... this bailout horse
**** is going to drag Canada right into it. We are already taxed up the
ass and can't afford the GM, Chrysler and bank screw over.


Tough ****. Maybe Obama has some friendly advice for a toilet cleaner such
as yourself.


Canuck57[_9_] February 20th 10 09:00 PM

obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 
On 20/02/2010 1:23 PM, your kind of guy wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 13:09:20 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:

Unfortunately Caanda is in lock step with the US.... this bailout horse
**** is going to drag Canada right into it. We are already taxed up the
ass and can't afford the GM, Chrysler and bank screw over.


Tough ****. Maybe Obama has some friendly advice for a toilet cleaner such
as yourself.


Guess you are just another liberal.


nom=de=plume February 20th 10 09:04 PM

obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 
"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
On 20/02/2010 11:23 AM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...
On 19/02/2010 9:41 PM, bpuharic wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/17/bu...nhardt.html?hp

Just look at the outside evaluations of the stimulus. Perhaps the
best-known economic research firms are IHS Global Insight,
Macroeconomic Advisers and Moody’s Economy.com. They all estimate that
the bill has added 1.6 million to 1.8 million jobs so far and that its
ultimate impact will be roughly 2.5 million jobs. The Congressional
Budget Office, an independent agency, considers these estimates to be
conservative.

------------

this is after the recent USAtoday interview of 50 economists, where
the median estimate of job creation was about 1.5M jobs

seems everyone knows the stimulus is working

except the right wing

Even if it were say 2 million jobs, that is about $1 million per job on
a
$2 trillion debt-spending spree.

Like usually, not very cost effective no mater how you look at it.

But if they balanced the governemnts pending, and say eliminated 50% or
more of fedeal income tax, bet the jobs would be created coat to coast
was
the people would actually keep more of their own money and it will not
"disappear" or be skimmed by the government.

On a dollar cost basis, at best Obamanomics is a dismal monumentus
failure.



Fortunately for you, it doesn't matter, since you're not an American and
you
hate our country.


Unfortunately Caanda is in lock step with the US.... this bailout horse
**** is going to drag Canada right into it. We are already taxed up the
ass and can't afford the GM, Chrysler and bank screw over.



I think you should move to Russia.

--
Nom=de=Plume



Canuck57[_9_] February 20th 10 09:11 PM

obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 
On 20/02/2010 1:23 PM, your kind of guy wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 13:09:20 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:

Unfortunately Caanda is in lock step with the US.... this bailout horse
**** is going to drag Canada right into it. We are already taxed up the
ass and can't afford the GM, Chrysler and bank screw over.


Tough ****. Maybe Obama has some friendly advice for a toilet cleaner such
as yourself.


And I dispute the numbers, those were those eligible for "bailouts", not
the real raw numbers....

LMAO, just anotehr sucker going for the Pied Piper bait.

I am Tosk[_3_] February 20th 10 09:41 PM

obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 
In article , says...

On 20/02/2010 1:23 PM, your kind ofLo guy wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 13:09:20 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:

Unfortunately Caanda is in lock step with the US.... this bailout horse
**** is going to drag Canada right into it. We are already taxed up the
ass and can't afford the GM, Chrysler and bank screw over.


Tough ****. Maybe Obama has some friendly advice for a toilet cleaner such
as yourself.


Guess you are just another liberal.


Looks like Harry hasn't stopped his spoofing ****...

--
Can I haz Cheezeburger?

your kind of guy February 20th 10 10:02 PM

obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 14:00:08 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:

On 20/02/2010 1:23 PM, your kind of guy wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 13:09:20 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:

Unfortunately Caanda is in lock step with the US.... this bailout horse
**** is going to drag Canada right into it. We are already taxed up the
ass and can't afford the GM, Chrysler and bank screw over.


Tough ****. Maybe Obama has some friendly advice for a toilet cleaner such
as yourself.


Guess you are just another liberal.


If the US goes belly up so goes the world. Preach your bullship all you
want. We all see your agenda.


your kind of guy February 20th 10 10:03 PM

obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 16:41:09 -0500, I am Tosk wrote:

In article , says...

On 20/02/2010 1:23 PM, your kind ofLo guy wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 13:09:20 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:

Unfortunately Caanda is in lock step with the US.... this bailout horse
**** is going to drag Canada right into it. We are already taxed up the
ass and can't afford the GM, Chrysler and bank screw over.

Tough ****. Maybe Obama has some friendly advice for a toilet cleaner such
as yourself.


Guess you are just another liberal.


Looks like Harry hasn't stopped his spoofing ****...

You are too stupid to know crap about crap. Go play "two stroke".


Canuck57[_9_] February 20th 10 11:12 PM

obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 
On 20/02/2010 3:02 PM, your kind of guy wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 14:00:08 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:

On 20/02/2010 1:23 PM, your kind of guy wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 13:09:20 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:

Unfortunately Caanda is in lock step with the US.... this bailout horse
**** is going to drag Canada right into it. We are already taxed up the
ass and can't afford the GM, Chrysler and bank screw over.

Tough ****. Maybe Obama has some friendly advice for a toilet cleaner such
as yourself.


Guess you are just another liberal.


If the US goes belly up so goes the world. Preach your bullship all you
want. We all see your agenda.


US isn't going to go belly up, but take a step down the economic ladder,
you bet. China is growing like the US is shrinking as a percentage of
world GDP.


Canuck57[_9_] February 20th 10 11:13 PM

obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 
On 20/02/2010 2:04 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...
On 20/02/2010 11:23 AM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...
On 19/02/2010 9:41 PM, bpuharic wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/17/bu...nhardt.html?hp

Just look at the outside evaluations of the stimulus. Perhaps the
best-known economic research firms are IHS Global Insight,
Macroeconomic Advisers and Moody’s Economy.com. They all estimate that
the bill has added 1.6 million to 1.8 million jobs so far and that its
ultimate impact will be roughly 2.5 million jobs. The Congressional
Budget Office, an independent agency, considers these estimates to be
conservative.

------------

this is after the recent USAtoday interview of 50 economists, where
the median estimate of job creation was about 1.5M jobs

seems everyone knows the stimulus is working

except the right wing

Even if it were say 2 million jobs, that is about $1 million per job on
a
$2 trillion debt-spending spree.

Like usually, not very cost effective no mater how you look at it.

But if they balanced the governemnts pending, and say eliminated 50% or
more of fedeal income tax, bet the jobs would be created coat to coast
was
the people would actually keep more of their own money and it will not
"disappear" or be skimmed by the government.

On a dollar cost basis, at best Obamanomics is a dismal monumentus
failure.


Fortunately for you, it doesn't matter, since you're not an American and
you
hate our country.


Unfortunately Caanda is in lock step with the US.... this bailout horse
**** is going to drag Canada right into it. We are already taxed up the
ass and can't afford the GM, Chrysler and bank screw over.



I think you should move to Russia.



Nope, I was thinking of somewhere south of Mexico....

your kind of guy February 20th 10 11:28 PM

obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 16:12:46 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:

On 20/02/2010 3:02 PM, your kind of guy wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 14:00:08 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:

On 20/02/2010 1:23 PM, your kind of guy wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 13:09:20 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:

Unfortunately Caanda is in lock step with the US.... this bailout horse
**** is going to drag Canada right into it. We are already taxed up the
ass and can't afford the GM, Chrysler and bank screw over.

Tough ****. Maybe Obama has some friendly advice for a toilet cleaner such
as yourself.

Guess you are just another liberal.


If the US goes belly up so goes the world. Preach your bullship all you
want. We all see your agenda.


US isn't going to go belly up, but take a step down the economic ladder,
you bet. China is growing like the US is shrinking as a percentage of
world GDP.


We all knew that when W.Bush was making a dope out of the Republicans for
eight years. jeeesis, were you locked up at the time.


nom=de=plume February 21st 10 01:12 AM

obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 
"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
On 20/02/2010 2:04 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...
On 20/02/2010 11:23 AM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...
On 19/02/2010 9:41 PM, bpuharic wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/17/bu...nhardt.html?hp

Just look at the outside evaluations of the stimulus. Perhaps the
best-known economic research firms are IHS Global Insight,
Macroeconomic Advisers and Moody’s Economy.com. They all estimate
that
the bill has added 1.6 million to 1.8 million jobs so far and that
its
ultimate impact will be roughly 2.5 million jobs. The Congressional
Budget Office, an independent agency, considers these estimates to be
conservative.

------------

this is after the recent USAtoday interview of 50 economists, where
the median estimate of job creation was about 1.5M jobs

seems everyone knows the stimulus is working

except the right wing

Even if it were say 2 million jobs, that is about $1 million per job
on
a
$2 trillion debt-spending spree.

Like usually, not very cost effective no mater how you look at it.

But if they balanced the governemnts pending, and say eliminated 50%
or
more of fedeal income tax, bet the jobs would be created coat to coast
was
the people would actually keep more of their own money and it will not
"disappear" or be skimmed by the government.

On a dollar cost basis, at best Obamanomics is a dismal monumentus
failure.


Fortunately for you, it doesn't matter, since you're not an American
and
you
hate our country.

Unfortunately Caanda is in lock step with the US.... this bailout horse
**** is going to drag Canada right into it. We are already taxed up the
ass and can't afford the GM, Chrysler and bank screw over.



I think you should move to Russia.



Nope, I was thinking of somewhere south of Mexico....



Great idea. Let us know when you arrive!

--
Nom=de=Plume



bpuharic February 21st 10 01:18 AM

obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 17:07:53 -0800, "CalifBill"
wrote:


"bpuharic" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 17:00:53 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:



what i see is that the right never blames the rich white guy for the
problems he created

instead, they blame them on the black guy, cuz black guys aren't
supposed to have power.

that's called 'racism'


No racism is you! Injecting the N word and saying because Obama is black he
is perfect


really? got proof i believe that?

oh. you dont


Obama has screwed up! Tarp was to stop the depression,


what you ignore is that obama had precisely

zero

control over the deficit last year. none. nada. the numbers were
alreeady determined by bush's tax cuts, the war in iraq and the
collapse of the economy

yet you blame obama.

so if you blame him for something he had NO control over, while saying
NOTHING about the WHITE guy who DID have control over it

that's racism


Stimulus was to keep unemployment under 8%.


no one ever said that was the purpose. sorry

Tarp was Bush. So I guess he
was more successful than Obama. Real unemployment is probably closer to or
above 17%.


again this is bush's fault. obama had no control over the economy last
year. none.


And those 2 million jobs. What cost per job, and how many were
created?


first you guys said NO jobs were created NOW you admit he DID create
jobs.


They give a bunch of money to the San Francisco Muni for
maintenance and call that jobs saved and / or created. Government jobs that
do not add to the real income of the USA. Government workers. How many
real jobs, tax paying, GDP improving jobs were created for that $2 Trillion
buckeroos?


i'd rather do that than spend a trillion on a war for the iraqis who
hate us anyhow and killed 4400 american soldiers

you guys are just racist



Canuck57[_9_] February 21st 10 01:27 AM

obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 
On 20/02/2010 4:28 PM, your kind of guy wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 16:12:46 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:

On 20/02/2010 3:02 PM, your kind of guy wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 14:00:08 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:

On 20/02/2010 1:23 PM, your kind of guy wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 13:09:20 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:

Unfortunately Caanda is in lock step with the US.... this bailout horse
**** is going to drag Canada right into it. We are already taxed up the
ass and can't afford the GM, Chrysler and bank screw over.

Tough ****. Maybe Obama has some friendly advice for a toilet cleaner such
as yourself.

Guess you are just another liberal.

If the US goes belly up so goes the world. Preach your bullship all you
want. We all see your agenda.


US isn't going to go belly up, but take a step down the economic ladder,
you bet. China is growing like the US is shrinking as a percentage of
world GDP.


We all knew that when W.Bush was making a dope out of the Republicans for
eight years. jeeesis, were you locked up at the time.


Ya, but the real dope is in office:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...idential_terms

Busy morgaging your future.

Look a the Barack Obama world record debt increase of 35%!!!!!!!!!!!

Yep, Obama the big mouth will carry the US debt to more than GDP at the
rate he is going.

LMAO. Til Debt Do Us Part.

Canuck57[_9_] February 21st 10 01:29 AM

obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 
On 20/02/2010 6:12 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...
On 20/02/2010 2:04 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...
On 20/02/2010 11:23 AM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...
On 19/02/2010 9:41 PM, bpuharic wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/17/bu...nhardt.html?hp

Just look at the outside evaluations of the stimulus. Perhaps the
best-known economic research firms are IHS Global Insight,
Macroeconomic Advisers and Moody’s Economy.com. They all estimate
that
the bill has added 1.6 million to 1.8 million jobs so far and that
its
ultimate impact will be roughly 2.5 million jobs. The Congressional
Budget Office, an independent agency, considers these estimates to be
conservative.

------------

this is after the recent USAtoday interview of 50 economists, where
the median estimate of job creation was about 1.5M jobs

seems everyone knows the stimulus is working

except the right wing

Even if it were say 2 million jobs, that is about $1 million per job
on
a
$2 trillion debt-spending spree.

Like usually, not very cost effective no mater how you look at it.

But if they balanced the governemnts pending, and say eliminated 50%
or
more of fedeal income tax, bet the jobs would be created coat to coast
was
the people would actually keep more of their own money and it will not
"disappear" or be skimmed by the government.

On a dollar cost basis, at best Obamanomics is a dismal monumentus
failure.


Fortunately for you, it doesn't matter, since you're not an American
and
you
hate our country.

Unfortunately Caanda is in lock step with the US.... this bailout horse
**** is going to drag Canada right into it. We are already taxed up the
ass and can't afford the GM, Chrysler and bank screw over.


I think you should move to Russia.



Nope, I was thinking of somewhere south of Mexico....



Great idea. Let us know when you arrive!


Will do, after I go fishing that is...


John H[_12_] February 21st 10 01:35 AM

obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 20:18:13 -0500, bpuharic wrote:

On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 17:07:53 -0800, "CalifBill"
wrote:


"bpuharic" wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 17:00:53 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:



what i see is that the right never blames the rich white guy for the
problems he created

instead, they blame them on the black guy, cuz black guys aren't
supposed to have power.

that's called 'racism'


No racism is you! Injecting the N word and saying because Obama is black he
is perfect


really? got proof i believe that?

oh. you dont


Obama has screwed up! Tarp was to stop the depression,


what you ignore is that obama had precisely

zero

control over the deficit last year. none. nada. the numbers were
alreeady determined by bush's tax cuts, the war in iraq and the
collapse of the economy

yet you blame obama.

so if you blame him for something he had NO control over, while saying
NOTHING about the WHITE guy who DID have control over it

that's racism


Stimulus was to keep unemployment under 8%.


no one ever said that was the purpose. sorry

Tarp was Bush. So I guess he
was more successful than Obama. Real unemployment is probably closer to or
above 17%.


again this is bush's fault. obama had no control over the economy last
year. none.


And those 2 million jobs. What cost per job, and how many were
created?


first you guys said NO jobs were created NOW you admit he DID create
jobs.


They give a bunch of money to the San Francisco Muni for
maintenance and call that jobs saved and / or created. Government jobs that
do not add to the real income of the USA. Government workers. How many
real jobs, tax paying, GDP improving jobs were created for that $2 Trillion
buckeroos?


i'd rather do that than spend a trillion on a war for the iraqis who
hate us anyhow and killed 4400 american soldiers

you guys are just racist



If you feel better blaming 'Bama's ****ups on racism, go for it.
--
John H

"A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul."
-- George Bernard Shaw

bpuharic February 21st 10 01:44 AM

obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 20:35:05 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 20:18:13 -0500, bpuharic wrote:


first you guys said NO jobs were created NOW you admit he DID create
jobs.


They give a bunch of money to the San Francisco Muni for
maintenance and call that jobs saved and / or created. Government jobs that
do not add to the real income of the USA. Government workers. How many
real jobs, tax paying, GDP improving jobs were created for that $2 Trillion
buckeroos?


i'd rather do that than spend a trillion on a war for the iraqis who
hate us anyhow and killed 4400 american soldiers

you guys are just racist



If you feel better blaming 'Bama's ****ups on racism, go for it.


OK i will. because it's the truth


Canuck57[_9_] February 21st 10 01:50 AM

obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 
On 20/02/2010 6:18 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 17:07:53 -0800, "CalifBill"
wrote:


wrote in message
...
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 17:00:53 -0500, wrote:



what i see is that the right never blames the rich white guy for the
problems he created

instead, they blame them on the black guy, cuz black guys aren't
supposed to have power.

that's called 'racism'


No racism is you! Injecting the N word and saying because Obama is black he
is perfect


really? got proof i believe that?

oh. you dont


Obama has screwed up! Tarp was to stop the depression,


what you ignore is that obama had precisely

zero

control over the deficit last year. none. nada. the numbers were
alreeady determined by bush's tax cuts, the war in iraq and the
collapse of the economy

yet you blame obama.

so if you blame him for something he had NO control over, while saying
NOTHING about the WHITE guy who DID have control over it


Sorry, it wasn't Bush who bailed everyone out. Bush spread a small
amount to get them to Obama's real inaguration date, that was it. When
GM pork was needed, when banks came up, Obama was there with the cheque
book. As of January 2009 it was Obama's baby. Any dimes spent since
then are Obama's doing.

Obama is just using it as an excuse to forget about fiscal sanity, and
debt spend. Trouble is the fool does not understand, you can't spend
your way out of debt, just get some serious consequences later.

And those 2 million jobs. What cost per job, and how many were
created?


first you guys said NO jobs were created NOW you admit he DID create
jobs.


Just using the numbers you clain against the price paid. Not a very
good deal if you ask me. 2 trillion and 2 million jobs. Do the math.

They give a bunch of money to the San Francisco Muni for
maintenance and call that jobs saved and / or created. Government jobs that
do not add to the real income of the USA. Government workers. How many
real jobs, tax paying, GDP improving jobs were created for that $2 Trillion
buckeroos?


i'd rather do that than spend a trillion on a war for the iraqis who
hate us anyhow and killed 4400 american soldiers

you guys are just racist


Not at all. Just Obama wants to hide behind the race card. He is now
about to become the worlds biggest debt monger ever on 2010. No
restraint, just liberal debt...

Going to be a long depression.

bpuharic February 21st 10 02:04 AM

obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 19:47:31 -0600, Harry
wrote:

bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 17:07:53 -0800, "CalifBill"
wrote:


you guys are just racist

Bill racist?
He's got black friends.
Easier to just blame every ill on Obama.
Bill thinks in non-racist black and white terms.
GWB was white.
He wants GWB back.
Those were the good times, with GWB and the Republican party running the
show.


yeah i know. he, like all right whiners, believes ALOT of fairy tales




bpuharic February 21st 10 02:05 AM

obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 18:27:36 -0700, Canuck57
wrote:

On 20/02/2010 4:28 PM, your kind of guy wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 16:12:46 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:



US isn't going to go belly up, but take a step down the economic ladder,
you bet. China is growing like the US is shrinking as a percentage of
world GDP.


We all knew that when W.Bush was making a dope out of the Republicans for
eight years. jeeesis, were you locked up at the time.


Ya, but the real dope is in office:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...idential_terms

Busy morgaging your future.

Look a the Barack Obama world record debt increase of 35%!!!!!!!!!!!


http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa...36&emailView=1

the racist ignores the fact bush caused the deficits that obama is
trying to manage

the white guy caused it. so he blames it on the black guy.

Canuck57[_9_] February 21st 10 02:12 AM

obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 
On 20/02/2010 6:44 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 20:35:05 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 20:18:13 -0500, wrote:


first you guys said NO jobs were created NOW you admit he DID create
jobs.


They give a bunch of money to the San Francisco Muni for
maintenance and call that jobs saved and / or created. Government jobs that
do not add to the real income of the USA. Government workers. How many
real jobs, tax paying, GDP improving jobs were created for that $2 Trillion
buckeroos?

i'd rather do that than spend a trillion on a war for the iraqis who
hate us anyhow and killed 4400 american soldiers

you guys are just racist



If you feel better blaming 'Bama's ****ups on racism, go for it.


OK i will. because it's the truth


One thing about making money, it does not care what your color or race
is. That is why Tiger Woods made so much money until he dicked it up.
I suppose now that is endorcemens are shrinking fast, it is racism... LMAO.


bpuharic February 21st 10 02:19 AM

obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 19:12:16 -0700, Canuck57
wrote:

On 20/02/2010 6:44 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 20:35:05 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 20:18:13 -0500, wrote:



If you feel better blaming 'Bama's ****ups on racism, go for it.


OK i will. because it's the truth


One thing about making money, it does not care what your color or race
is. That is why Tiger Woods made so much money until he dicked it up.
I suppose now that is endorcemens are shrinking fast, it is racism... LMAO.



woods has no power

obama does. and you guys just can't handle it.


nom=de=plume February 21st 10 02:23 AM

obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 
"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
On 20/02/2010 6:44 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 20:35:05 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 20:18:13 -0500, wrote:


first you guys said NO jobs were created NOW you admit he DID create
jobs.


They give a bunch of money to the San Francisco Muni for
maintenance and call that jobs saved and / or created. Government jobs
that
do not add to the real income of the USA. Government workers. How
many
real jobs, tax paying, GDP improving jobs were created for that $2
Trillion
buckeroos?

i'd rather do that than spend a trillion on a war for the iraqis who
hate us anyhow and killed 4400 american soldiers

you guys are just racist



If you feel better blaming 'Bama's ****ups on racism, go for it.


OK i will. because it's the truth


One thing about making money, it does not care what your color or race is.
That is why Tiger Woods made so much money until he dicked it up. I
suppose now that is endorcemens are shrinking fast, it is racism... LMAO.



My guess is that he's going to return to making money (and for his sponsors)
relatively soon. No one really cares about his sex addition in the long run.

--
Nom=de=Plume



Bruce[_20_] February 21st 10 03:20 AM

obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 
bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 18:27:36 -0700,
wrote:


On 20/02/2010 4:28 PM, your kind of guy wrote:

On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 16:12:46 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:


US isn't going to go belly up, but take a step down the economic ladder,
you bet. China is growing like the US is shrinking as a percentage of
world GDP.

We all knew that when W.Bush was making a dope out of the Republicans for
eight years. jeeesis, were you locked up at the time.

Ya, but the real dope is in office:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...idential_terms

Busy morgaging your future.

Look a the Barack Obama world record debt increase of 35%!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa...36&emailView=1

the racist ignores the fact bush caused the deficits that obama is
trying to manage

the white guy caused it. so he blames it on the black guy.

Half black.

nom=de=plume February 21st 10 03:43 AM

obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 
"Bruce" wrote in message
...
bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 18:27:36 -0700,
wrote:


On 20/02/2010 4:28 PM, your kind of guy wrote:

On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 16:12:46 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:


US isn't going to go belly up, but take a step down the economic
ladder,
you bet. China is growing like the US is shrinking as a percentage of
world GDP.

We all knew that when W.Bush was making a dope out of the Republicans
for
eight years. jeeesis, were you locked up at the time.

Ya, but the real dope is in office:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...idential_terms

Busy morgaging your future.

Look a the Barack Obama world record debt increase of 35%!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa...36&emailView=1

the racist ignores the fact bush caused the deficits that obama is
trying to manage

the white guy caused it. so he blames it on the black guy.

Half black.



No problem. You're full blooded racist, apparently.

--
Nom=de=Plume



TopBassDog February 21st 10 04:10 AM

obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 
On Feb 20, 9:20*pm, Bruce wrote:
bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 18:27:36 -0700,
wrote:


On 20/02/2010 4:28 PM, your kind of guy wrote:


On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 16:12:46 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:


US isn't going to go belly up, but take a step down the economic ladder,
you bet. *China is growing like the US is shrinking as a percentage of
world GDP.


We all knew that when W.Bush was making a dope out of the Republicans for
eight years. jeeesis, were you locked up at the time.


Ya, but the real dope is in office:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...idential_terms


Busy morgaging your future.


Look a the Barack Obama world record debt increase of 35%!!!!!!!!!!!


http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa...36&emailView=1


the racist ignores the fact bush caused the deficits that obama is
trying to manage


the white guy caused it. so he blames it on the black guy.


Half black.


Half white.

CalifBill February 21st 10 05:56 AM

obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 17:07:53 -0800, "CalifBill"
wrote:


"bpuharic" wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 17:00:53 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:



what i see is that the right never blames the rich white guy for the
problems he created

instead, they blame them on the black guy, cuz black guys aren't
supposed to have power.

that's called 'racism'


No racism is you! Injecting the N word and saying because Obama is black
he
is perfect


really? got proof i believe that?

oh. you dont


Obama has screwed up! Tarp was to stop the depression,


what you ignore is that obama had precisely

zero

control over the deficit last year. none. nada. the numbers were
alreeady determined by bush's tax cuts, the war in iraq and the
collapse of the economy

yet you blame obama.

so if you blame him for something he had NO control over, while saying
NOTHING about the WHITE guy who DID have control over it

that's racism


Stimulus was to keep unemployment under 8%.


no one ever said that was the purpose. sorry

Tarp was Bush. So I guess he
was more successful than Obama. Real unemployment is probably closer to
or
above 17%.


again this is bush's fault. obama had no control over the economy last
year. none.


And those 2 million jobs. What cost per job, and how many were
created?


first you guys said NO jobs were created NOW you admit he DID create
jobs.


They give a bunch of money to the San Francisco Muni for
maintenance and call that jobs saved and / or created. Government jobs
that
do not add to the real income of the USA. Government workers. How many
real jobs, tax paying, GDP improving jobs were created for that $2
Trillion
buckeroos?


i'd rather do that than spend a trillion on a war for the iraqis who
hate us anyhow and killed 4400 american soldiers

you guys are just racist



How the hell did you graduate high school? You sound more stupid and
disconnected from reality with every post you make. Your agument says Bush
inherited a falling economy in his first year, so all problems were Clinton
caused. Makes as much sense as absolving Obama of any blame. He is the
CEO, is his watch. The buck stops at Obama's desk.



bpuharic February 21st 10 06:08 AM

obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 21:53:23 -0800, "CalifBill"
wrote:


"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"CalifBill" wrote in message



Nope... only one aspect of the Stim was to help the employment situation.
Your diatribe is a made-up, right wing talking point.

Tarp was a combined effort at the very end of Bush and the very beginning
of Obama.

The jobs number saved/created is about right... between 800K and 2.5M. Not
enough, but in the right direction.

--
Nom=de=Plume


What 800k to 2.5M real jobs? Did tax revenues increase from employment?


opportunity cost: we don't have to pay unemployment; people retain
skills; they have health insurance, they don't default on their
mortgages, credit card bills, etc

and taxes have decreased because BUSH cut taxes in spite of the fact
it's destroyed the economy

but he's rich. he's white. so you'll say nothing about him

bpuharic February 21st 10 06:12 AM

obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 21:56:36 -0800, "CalifBill"
wrote:


"bpuharic" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 17:07:53 -0800, "CalifBill"
wrote:


i'd rather do that than spend a trillion on a war for the iraqis who
hate us anyhow and killed 4400 american soldiers

you guys are just racist



How the hell did you graduate high school? You sound more stupid and
disconnected from reality with every post you make.


am i sounding like a teabagger?

Your agument says Bush
inherited a falling economy in his first year, so all problems were Clinton
caused


clinton passed on a balanced budget. and bush had 8 years to trash
the economy. y ou guys ignore that

.. Makes as much sense as absolving Obama of any blame. He is the
CEO, is his watch. The buck stops at Obama's desk.


bull****. only a racist would make this argument...THAT is divorced
from reality. you guys pretend that obama was supposed to cure all the
economic woes on jan 20 of last year

how was he supposed to increase taxes that bush cut? he couldnt

how was he supposed to IMMEDIATELY withdraw troops from iraq? he
couldnt

those were BUSH'S fault. and they account for about 7 of the 10
trillion dollars in deficit spending over the next 10 years

but you racists want to blame it on obama and ignore the rich white
guy



bpuharic February 21st 10 12:23 PM

obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 
On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 05:00:03 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:

bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 17:00:53 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


instead, they blame them on the black guy, cuz black guys aren't
supposed to have power.

that's called 'racism'



It's not the message, it's the choice of "words" sometimes.


what was it that patton said?....'when i want 'em to remember it, i
give it to 'em loud and dirty'...


anon-e-moose February 21st 10 01:45 PM

obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 
CalifBill wrote:
"bpuharic" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 17:07:53 -0800, "CalifBill"
wrote:

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 17:00:53 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:



what i see is that the right never blames the rich white guy for the
problems he created

instead, they blame them on the black guy, cuz black guys aren't
supposed to have power.

that's called 'racism'
No racism is you! Injecting the N word and saying because Obama is black
he
is perfect

really? got proof i believe that?

oh. you dont


Obama has screwed up! Tarp was to stop the depression,

what you ignore is that obama had precisely

zero

control over the deficit last year. none. nada. the numbers were
alreeady determined by bush's tax cuts, the war in iraq and the
collapse of the economy

yet you blame obama.

so if you blame him for something he had NO control over, while saying
NOTHING about the WHITE guy who DID have control over it

that's racism


Stimulus was to keep unemployment under 8%.

no one ever said that was the purpose. sorry

Tarp was Bush. So I guess he
was more successful than Obama. Real unemployment is probably closer to
or
above 17%.

again this is bush's fault. obama had no control over the economy last
year. none.


And those 2 million jobs. What cost per job, and how many were
created?

first you guys said NO jobs were created NOW you admit he DID create
jobs.


They give a bunch of money to the San Francisco Muni for
maintenance and call that jobs saved and / or created. Government jobs
that
do not add to the real income of the USA. Government workers. How many
real jobs, tax paying, GDP improving jobs were created for that $2
Trillion
buckeroos?

i'd rather do that than spend a trillion on a war for the iraqis who
hate us anyhow and killed 4400 american soldiers

you guys are just racist


How the hell did you graduate high school? You sound more stupid and
disconnected from reality with every post you make. Your agument says Bush
inherited a falling economy in his first year, so all problems were Clinton
caused. Makes as much sense as absolving Obama of any blame. He is the
CEO, is his watch. The buck stops at Obama's desk.


Simmer down Calif Bill. Why do you even attempt to reason with
blockheads like wf3f or Nom de pustule? In their eyes, Obama ****s ice
cream. They like the taste. You can't argue with that.

bpuharic February 21st 10 02:13 PM

obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 
On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 08:45:55 -0500, anon-e-moose
wrote:




How the hell did you graduate high school? You sound more stupid and
disconnected from reality with every post you make. Your agument says Bush
inherited a falling economy in his first year, so all problems were Clinton
caused. Makes as much sense as absolving Obama of any blame. He is the
CEO, is his watch. The buck stops at Obama's desk.


Simmer down Calif Bill. Why do you even attempt to reason with
blockheads like wf3f or Nom de pustule? In their eyes, Obama ****s ice
cream. They like the taste. You can't argue with that.


now let's see.

it's provable the problems were caused by the rich white guy

the right whiners blame it on the black guy 'cuz rich white guys never
cause problems

yeah they're right. it has zip to do with race


anon-e-moose February 21st 10 02:20 PM

obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 
bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 08:45:55 -0500, anon-e-moose
wrote:

How the hell did you graduate high school? You sound more stupid and
disconnected from reality with every post you make. Your agument says Bush
inherited a falling economy in his first year, so all problems were Clinton
caused. Makes as much sense as absolving Obama of any blame. He is the
CEO, is his watch. The buck stops at Obama's desk.


Simmer down Calif Bill. Why do you even attempt to reason with
blockheads like wf3f or Nom de pustule? In their eyes, Obama ****s ice
cream. They like the taste. You can't argue with that.


now let's see.

it's provable the problems were caused by the rich white guy

the right whiners blame it on the black guy 'cuz rich white guys never
cause problems

yeah they're right. it has zip to do with race

You'll do your best to make it a race issue, won't you, bpubic?

bpuharic February 21st 10 02:57 PM

obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 
On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 09:20:18 -0500, anon-e-moose
wrote:

bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 08:45:55 -0500, anon-e-moose
wrote:

How the hell did you graduate high school? You sound more stupid and
disconnected from reality with every post you make. Your agument says Bush
inherited a falling economy in his first year, so all problems were Clinton
caused. Makes as much sense as absolving Obama of any blame. He is the
CEO, is his watch. The buck stops at Obama's desk.


Simmer down Calif Bill. Why do you even attempt to reason with
blockheads like wf3f or Nom de pustule? In their eyes, Obama ****s ice
cream. They like the taste. You can't argue with that.


now let's see.

it's provable the problems were caused by the rich white guy

the right whiners blame it on the black guy 'cuz rich white guys never
cause problems

yeah they're right. it has zip to do with race

You'll do your best to make it a race issue, won't you, bpubic?


you mean just because it is?

go figure


Canuck57[_9_] February 21st 10 03:38 PM

obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 
On 20/02/2010 7:05 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 18:27:36 -0700,
wrote:

On 20/02/2010 4:28 PM, your kind of guy wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 16:12:46 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:



US isn't going to go belly up, but take a step down the economic ladder,
you bet. China is growing like the US is shrinking as a percentage of
world GDP.

We all knew that when W.Bush was making a dope out of the Republicans for
eight years. jeeesis, were you locked up at the time.


Ya, but the real dope is in office:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...idential_terms

Busy morgaging your future.

Look a the Barack Obama world record debt increase of 35%!!!!!!!!!!!


http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa...36&emailView=1

the racist ignores the fact bush caused the deficits that obama is
trying to manage

the white guy caused it. so he blames it on the black guy.


Then I guess Obama has Bush signing the checks. LMAO. You would think
in the last 13 months of spending, Obama would have had control as he is
a the leader of the administration....'

Guess Obama is a wishy-washy president at best.

Canuck57[_9_] February 21st 10 03:41 PM

obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 
On 20/02/2010 8:43 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...
bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 18:27:36 -0700,
wrote:


On 20/02/2010 4:28 PM, your kind of guy wrote:

On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 16:12:46 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:


US isn't going to go belly up, but take a step down the economic
ladder,
you bet. China is growing like the US is shrinking as a percentage of
world GDP.

We all knew that when W.Bush was making a dope out of the Republicans
for
eight years. jeeesis, were you locked up at the time.

Ya, but the real dope is in office:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...idential_terms

Busy morgaging your future.

Look a the Barack Obama world record debt increase of 35%!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa...36&emailView=1

the racist ignores the fact bush caused the deficits that obama is
trying to manage

the white guy caused it. so he blames it on the black guy.

Half black.



No problem. You're full blooded racist, apparently.


It has been my observation in life that 98% of the time someone accuses
someone else of being racists, they are in fact the racist ones. In
this case,Obama can do no wrong because he is black is also racist.

John H[_12_] February 21st 10 03:53 PM

obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 21:05:43 -0500, bpuharic wrote:

On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 18:27:36 -0700, Canuck57
wrote:

On 20/02/2010 4:28 PM, your kind of guy wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 16:12:46 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:



US isn't going to go belly up, but take a step down the economic ladder,
you bet. China is growing like the US is shrinking as a percentage of
world GDP.

We all knew that when W.Bush was making a dope out of the Republicans for
eight years. jeeesis, were you locked up at the time.


Ya, but the real dope is in office:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...idential_terms

Busy morgaging your future.

Look a the Barack Obama world record debt increase of 35%!!!!!!!!!!!


http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa...36&emailView=1

the racist ignores the fact bush caused the deficits that obama is
trying to manage

the white guy caused it. so he blames it on the black guy.


All these folks are racist?

http://www.nbra.info/

Methinks you are full of ****, as usual. I see I've wasted more than one remark
on you for February. You're almost as stupid as ninc=de=poop.
--
John H

"A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul."
-- George Bernard Shaw

Canuck57[_9_] February 21st 10 04:35 PM

obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 
On 20/02/2010 11:08 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 21:53:23 -0800, "CalifBill"
wrote:


wrote in message
...
wrote in message



Nope... only one aspect of the Stim was to help the employment situation.
Your diatribe is a made-up, right wing talking point.

Tarp was a combined effort at the very end of Bush and the very beginning
of Obama.

The jobs number saved/created is about right... between 800K and 2.5M. Not
enough, but in the right direction.

--
Nom=de=Plume


What 800k to 2.5M real jobs? Did tax revenues increase from employment?


opportunity cost: we don't have to pay unemployment; people retain
skills; they have health insurance, they don't default on their
mortgages, credit card bills, etc


Unemployment costs are chicken **** in the big picture.

For $2 trillion/year in debt that is about 40,000,000 jobs at $50,000 a
year. We sure did not see that bank for the buck. Not even close.

What really happened is years of bad mortgage and loan defaults were on
the banks book, they just transfered it to the taxpayers. That does not
create jobs. OK, maybe a few civil servant lawyer types, but that was it.

and taxes have decreased because BUSH cut taxes in spite of the fact
it's destroyed the economy

but he's rich. he's white. so you'll say nothing about him


Taxes have decreased because unemployed people don't pay income taxes.

What destroyed the economy is congressional mishandling of money and
debt management. The signs were there in 2006 and 2007, but congress
chose to ignore the issues. Basically encouraged it to happen, as no
other explanation exists.

Congress got there notice, but like a delinquent debtor chose to
blatently ignore it. Congress failed to tighten credit when it should
have. Congress should have made tighter budgets but did not as it was
unpopular with liberal spending habits.

To make maters worse, in Sept 2008 the US governmetn was in technical
default as they could no longer borrow to cover spending. With Obama
winning and the realization of government money creation going nuts, the
market crashed.

And today, still no progress on the issues that got us here.


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