obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 

On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 21:56:36 -0800, "CalifBill"
wrote:


"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 17:07:53 -0800, "CalifBill"
wrote:


i'd rather do that than spend a trillion on a war for the iraqis who
hate us anyhow and killed 4400 american soldiers

you guys are just racist



How the hell did you graduate high school? You sound more stupid and
disconnected from reality with every post you make.

am i sounding like a teabagger?

Your agument says Bush
inherited a falling economy in his first year, so all problems were Clinton
caused

clinton passed on a balanced budget. and bush had 8 years to trash
the economy. y ou guys ignore that

.. Makes as much sense as absolving Obama of any blame. He is the
CEO, is his watch. The buck stops at Obama's desk.

bull****. only a racist would make this argument...THAT is divorced
from reality. you guys pretend that obama was supposed to cure all the
economic woes on jan 20 of last year

how was he supposed to increase taxes that bush cut? he couldnt

how was he supposed to IMMEDIATELY withdraw troops from iraq? he
couldnt

those were BUSH'S fault. and they account for about 7 of the 10
trillion dollars in deficit spending over the next 10 years

but you racists want to blame it on obama and ignore the rich white
guy

obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 

On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 05:00:03 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:

bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 17:00:53 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


instead, they blame them on the black guy, cuz black guys aren't
supposed to have power.

that's called 'racism'


It's not the message, it's the choice of "words" sometimes.

what was it that patton said?....'when i want 'em to remember it, i
give it to 'em loud and dirty'...

obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 

CalifBill wrote:
"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 17:07:53 -0800, "CalifBill"
wrote:

"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 17:00:53 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:



what i see is that the right never blames the rich white guy for the
problems he created

instead, they blame them on the black guy, cuz black guys aren't
supposed to have power.

that's called 'racism'
No racism is you! Injecting the N word and saying because Obama is black
he
is perfect
really? got proof i believe that?

oh. you dont


Obama has screwed up! Tarp was to stop the depression,
what you ignore is that obama had precisely

zero

control over the deficit last year. none. nada. the numbers were
alreeady determined by bush's tax cuts, the war in iraq and the
collapse of the economy

yet you blame obama.

so if you blame him for something he had NO control over, while saying
NOTHING about the WHITE guy who DID have control over it

that's racism


Stimulus was to keep unemployment under 8%.
no one ever said that was the purpose. sorry

Tarp was Bush. So I guess he
was more successful than Obama. Real unemployment is probably closer to
or
above 17%.
again this is bush's fault. obama had no control over the economy last
year. none.


And those 2 million jobs. What cost per job, and how many were
created?
first you guys said NO jobs were created NOW you admit he DID create
jobs.


They give a bunch of money to the San Francisco Muni for
maintenance and call that jobs saved and / or created. Government jobs
that
do not add to the real income of the USA. Government workers. How many
real jobs, tax paying, GDP improving jobs were created for that $2
Trillion
buckeroos?
i'd rather do that than spend a trillion on a war for the iraqis who
hate us anyhow and killed 4400 american soldiers

you guys are just racist


How the hell did you graduate high school? You sound more stupid and
disconnected from reality with every post you make. Your agument says Bush
inherited a falling economy in his first year, so all problems were Clinton
caused. Makes as much sense as absolving Obama of any blame. He is the
CEO, is his watch. The buck stops at Obama's desk.


Simmer down Calif Bill. Why do you even attempt to reason with
blockheads like wf3f or Nom de pustule? In their eyes, Obama ****s ice
cream. They like the taste. You can't argue with that.

obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 

On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 08:45:55 -0500, anon-e-moose
wrote:




How the hell did you graduate high school? You sound more stupid and
disconnected from reality with every post you make. Your agument says Bush
inherited a falling economy in his first year, so all problems were Clinton
caused. Makes as much sense as absolving Obama of any blame. He is the
CEO, is his watch. The buck stops at Obama's desk.


Simmer down Calif Bill. Why do you even attempt to reason with
blockheads like wf3f or Nom de pustule? In their eyes, Obama ****s ice
cream. They like the taste. You can't argue with that.

now let's see.

it's provable the problems were caused by the rich white guy

the right whiners blame it on the black guy 'cuz rich white guys never
cause problems

yeah they're right. it has zip to do with race

obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 

bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 08:45:55 -0500, anon-e-moose
wrote:

How the hell did you graduate high school? You sound more stupid and
disconnected from reality with every post you make. Your agument says Bush
inherited a falling economy in his first year, so all problems were Clinton
caused. Makes as much sense as absolving Obama of any blame. He is the
CEO, is his watch. The buck stops at Obama's desk.


Simmer down Calif Bill. Why do you even attempt to reason with
blockheads like wf3f or Nom de pustule? In their eyes, Obama ****s ice
cream. They like the taste. You can't argue with that.

now let's see.

it's provable the problems were caused by the rich white guy

the right whiners blame it on the black guy 'cuz rich white guys never
cause problems

yeah they're right. it has zip to do with race

You'll do your best to make it a race issue, won't you, bpubic?

obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 

On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 09:20:18 -0500, anon-e-moose
wrote:

bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 08:45:55 -0500, anon-e-moose
wrote:

How the hell did you graduate high school? You sound more stupid and
disconnected from reality with every post you make. Your agument says Bush
inherited a falling economy in his first year, so all problems were Clinton
caused. Makes as much sense as absolving Obama of any blame. He is the
CEO, is his watch. The buck stops at Obama's desk.


Simmer down Calif Bill. Why do you even attempt to reason with
blockheads like wf3f or Nom de pustule? In their eyes, Obama ****s ice
cream. They like the taste. You can't argue with that.

now let's see.

it's provable the problems were caused by the rich white guy

the right whiners blame it on the black guy 'cuz rich white guys never
cause problems

yeah they're right. it has zip to do with race

You'll do your best to make it a race issue, won't you, bpubic?

you mean just because it is?

go figure

obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 

On 20/02/2010 7:05 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 18:27:36 -0700,
wrote:

On 20/02/2010 4:28 PM, your kind of guy wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 16:12:46 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:


US isn't going to go belly up, but take a step down the economic ladder,
you bet. China is growing like the US is shrinking as a percentage of
world GDP.

We all knew that when W.Bush was making a dope out of the Republicans for
eight years. jeeesis, were you locked up at the time.

Ya, but the real dope is in office:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...idential_terms

Busy morgaging your future.

Look a the Barack Obama world record debt increase of 35%!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa...36&emailView=1

the racist ignores the fact bush caused the deficits that obama is
trying to manage

the white guy caused it. so he blames it on the black guy.

Then I guess Obama has Bush signing the checks. LMAO. You would think
in the last 13 months of spending, Obama would have had control as he is
a the leader of the administration....'

Guess Obama is a wishy-washy president at best.

obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 

On 20/02/2010 8:43 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
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bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 18:27:36 -0700,
wrote:


On 20/02/2010 4:28 PM, your kind of guy wrote:

On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 16:12:46 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:


US isn't going to go belly up, but take a step down the economic
ladder,
you bet. China is growing like the US is shrinking as a percentage of
world GDP.

We all knew that when W.Bush was making a dope out of the Republicans
for
eight years. jeeesis, were you locked up at the time.

Ya, but the real dope is in office:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...idential_terms

Busy morgaging your future.

Look a the Barack Obama world record debt increase of 35%!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa...36&emailView=1

the racist ignores the fact bush caused the deficits that obama is
trying to manage

the white guy caused it. so he blames it on the black guy.

Half black.


No problem. You're full blooded racist, apparently.

It has been my observation in life that 98% of the time someone accuses
someone else of being racists, they are in fact the racist ones. In
this case,Obama can do no wrong because he is black is also racist.

obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 

On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 21:05:43 -0500, bpuharic wrote:

On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 18:27:36 -0700, Canuck57
wrote:

On 20/02/2010 4:28 PM, your kind of guy wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 16:12:46 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:


US isn't going to go belly up, but take a step down the economic ladder,
you bet. China is growing like the US is shrinking as a percentage of
world GDP.

We all knew that when W.Bush was making a dope out of the Republicans for
eight years. jeeesis, were you locked up at the time.

Ya, but the real dope is in office:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...idential_terms

Busy morgaging your future.

Look a the Barack Obama world record debt increase of 35%!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa...36&emailView=1

the racist ignores the fact bush caused the deficits that obama is
trying to manage

the white guy caused it. so he blames it on the black guy.

All these folks are racist?

http://www.nbra.info/

Methinks you are full of ****, as usual. I see I've wasted more than one remark
on you for February. You're almost as stupid as ninc=de=poop.
--
John H

"A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul."
-- George Bernard Shaw

obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 

On 20/02/2010 11:08 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 21:53:23 -0800, "CalifBill"
wrote:


wrote in message
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wrote in message


Nope... only one aspect of the Stim was to help the employment situation.
Your diatribe is a made-up, right wing talking point.

Tarp was a combined effort at the very end of Bush and the very beginning
of Obama.

The jobs number saved/created is about right... between 800K and 2.5M. Not
enough, but in the right direction.

--
Nom=de=Plume


What 800k to 2.5M real jobs? Did tax revenues increase from employment?

opportunity cost: we don't have to pay unemployment; people retain
skills; they have health insurance, they don't default on their
mortgages, credit card bills, etc

Unemployment costs are chicken **** in the big picture.

For $2 trillion/year in debt that is about 40,000,000 jobs at $50,000 a
year. We sure did not see that bank for the buck. Not even close.

What really happened is years of bad mortgage and loan defaults were on
the banks book, they just transfered it to the taxpayers. That does not
create jobs. OK, maybe a few civil servant lawyer types, but that was it.

and taxes have decreased because BUSH cut taxes in spite of the fact
it's destroyed the economy

but he's rich. he's white. so you'll say nothing about him

Taxes have decreased because unemployed people don't pay income taxes.

What destroyed the economy is congressional mishandling of money and
debt management. The signs were there in 2006 and 2007, but congress
chose to ignore the issues. Basically encouraged it to happen, as no
other explanation exists.

Congress got there notice, but like a delinquent debtor chose to
blatently ignore it. Congress failed to tighten credit when it should
have. Congress should have made tighter budgets but did not as it was
unpopular with liberal spending habits.

To make maters worse, in Sept 2008 the US governmetn was in technical
default as they could no longer borrow to cover spending. With Obama
winning and the realization of government money creation going nuts, the
market crashed.

And today, still no progress on the issues that got us here.