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Jack[_3_] February 25th 10 05:46 AM

Ford's new diesel engine...
 
On Feb 24, 7:09*pm, Gene wrote:
On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 21:42:06 -0500, John H

wrote:
http://www.fordvehicles.com/2011Supe...&video=power-s...


Anyone know anything about it? Is this something we should run out and buy as
our new boat hauler?


It is a way to fight socialism, after all.


POS.... I just bought a 2010 Chevy. I invested in the USA.....


At least the POS you bought is somewhat made in the USA. Better than
a Titan, but it's still Government Motors. Maybe one day you can step
up and buy the last American made truck, a Ford, something that's not
sucking off the government teat.

Hey, there's always hope...

James[_2_] February 25th 10 03:54 PM

Ford's new diesel engine...
 
Tim wrote:

On Feb 24, 9:24*am, "James" wrote:
John H wrote:
On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 10:54:16 -0500, John H wrote:


On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 20:47:32 -0500, Bruce
wrote:


John H wrote:


http://www.fordvehicles.com/2011Supe...ain&video=powe
r-st roke


Anyone know anything about it? Is this something we should run
out and buy as our new boat hauler?


It is a way to fight socialism, after all.


I've got a diesel on order. *It's made in Germany. *27 MPG!


Mercedes?


VW


When I took my '02 7.3L Superduty in on the last cruise control
recall I got to talking with the diesel service manager about the
new diesel and he told me that it was to be built in Brazil. It
will be interesting to see how it works out usually first year new
products have teething problems. I doubt I will be getting a new
one anyway I've only got about 48K on the one I have now and it
pulls our 28' sailboat and 24'TT just fine. Jim

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Yeah, man. Keep it as long as you can...


The other nice thing about it is it's paid for. Jim

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Tim February 25th 10 09:55 PM

Ford's new diesel engine...
 
On Feb 24, 11:46*pm, Jack wrote:
On Feb 24, 7:09*pm, Gene wrote:

On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 21:42:06 -0500, John H


wrote:
http://www.fordvehicles.com/2011Supe...&video=power-s...


Anyone know anything about it? Is this something we should run out and buy as
our new boat hauler?


It is a way to fight socialism, after all.


POS.... I just bought a 2010 Chevy. I invested in the USA.....


At least the POS you bought is somewhat made in the USA. *Better than
a Titan, but it's still Government Motors. *Maybe one day you can step
up and buy the last American made truck, a Ford, something that's not
sucking off the government teat.

Hey, there's always hope...


begore anyone screams Mom, apple pie and Chevrolet, you'd be amazed at
how many out of country, out-sourced parts are used on that trucks
assembly.

Actually all of tucks outsource a lot of them. Japanese, Brazilian,
Mexican, Canadian, engines, transmissions, electrics, and the list
goes on......

Jack[_3_] February 26th 10 01:05 AM

Ford's new diesel engine...
 
On Feb 25, 4:55*pm, Tim wrote:
On Feb 24, 11:46*pm, Jack wrote:





On Feb 24, 7:09*pm, Gene wrote:


On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 21:42:06 -0500, John H


wrote:
http://www.fordvehicles.com/2011Supe...&video=power-s...


Anyone know anything about it? Is this something we should run out and buy as
our new boat hauler?


It is a way to fight socialism, after all.


POS.... I just bought a 2010 Chevy. I invested in the USA.....


At least the POS you bought is somewhat made in the USA. *Better than
a Titan, but it's still Government Motors. *Maybe one day you can step
up and buy the last American made truck, a Ford, something that's not
sucking off the government teat.


Hey, there's always hope...


begore anyone screams Mom, apple pie and Chevrolet, you'd be amazed at
how many out of country, out-sourced parts are used on that trucks
assembly.

Actually all of tucks outsource a lot of them. Japanese, Brazilian,
Mexican, Canadian, engines, transmissions, electrics, and the list
goes on......


Yeah, I know... just poking on Gene a bit. Dodge is so watered down
it's hard to tell what they are, GM is a socialist gov owned entity
that can't find their ass with both hands tied behind their back.

Ford is the last well-run, independant American car company left. And
they make great vehicles!


Wayne.B February 26th 10 01:39 AM

Ford's new diesel engine...
 
On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 17:05:24 -0800 (PST), Jack
wrote:


Ford is the last well-run, independant American car company left. And
they make great vehicles!


Sometimes. Consistency seems to be the ingredient that's missing.

Harry[_2_] February 26th 10 01:53 AM

Ford's new diesel engine...
 
On 2/25/10 8:39 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 17:05:24 -0800 (PST),
wrote:


Ford is the last well-run, independant American car company left. And
they make great vehicles!


Sometimes. Consistency seems to be the ingredient that's missing.



I rented a ford fusion recently. I wanted to rent a new taurus (renamed
from the "500" series, but the rental place was out of 'em. The fusion
was a piece of crap. It had 1500 miles on it, and already was beginning
to fall apart. The truck lid kept popping open of its own accord, the
shock or spring on the passenger rear side felt weak, the driver's side
front door wouldn't close properly, and it was an absolute slug getting
onto the expressways. I can't say that GM products are any better; the
last car I rented was a Pontiac and it, too, was a p.o.s.

I owned two Ford trucks, one a ford "splash" truck with a V-6. It was
trouble free. I replaced it with an F150, which had a slew of minor
deficiencies from the factory, including a front brake that dragged and
required many trips to the dealer before the whole assembly was replaced.

It would be nice if management and engineering at the U.S. auto
companies did more than *talk* about quality. Toyota obvious has had
some lapses recently, but I have a feeling management there will
straighten things out.

What could be more humorous than the right-wing nitwits here whining
about who owns GM? Who owns the highways you run your cars on? Who owns
the military about which you boys are always bragging?




Jack[_3_] February 26th 10 05:07 AM

Ford's new diesel engine...
 
On Feb 25, 8:39*pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 17:05:24 -0800 (PST), Jack
wrote:



Ford is the last well-run, independant American car company left. *And
they make great vehicles!


Sometimes. * Consistency seems to be the ingredient that's missing.


But if you look at the reliability scores, Ford is *much* better than
GM in nearly all vehicles and areas. Here's just one point:

CONSUMER REPORTS’ 2009 ANNUAL CAR RELIABILITY SURVEY: FORD SECURES
PLACE AMONG WORLD’S MOST RELIABLE CARMAKERS

Ford Fusion, Mercury Milan Reliability Tops Honda Accord and Toyota
Camry

YONKERS, NY – Ford has secured its position as the only Detroit
automaker with world-class reliability. About 90 percent (46 of 51) of
Ford, Mercury, and Lincoln products were found to have average or
better reliability, according to Consumer Reports’ 2009 Annual Car
Reliability Survey. The results were announced today at an Automotive
Press Association luncheon in Detroit.

Ford’s sustained production of vehicles that are as dependable-or
better than-some of the industry’s best dispels the notion that only
Japanese manufacturers make reliable cars. Other than the Toyota
Prius, the reliability of the 4-cylinder Fusion
and Milan ranks higher than that of any other family sedan. Both of
those Ford Motor Company products continue to beat the Honda Accord
and Toyota Camry, while the upscale Lincoln MKZ tops its rivals, the
Acura TL and Lexus ES.


Oh well... in the end you pays you money and you takes your chances.
A bad experience can sour someone for a long time, and brand loyalty
can mask a lot of crap. Mine was a Honda... I had a really crappy
one, won't buy another, at least not soon.

Jim February 26th 10 01:54 PM

Ford's new diesel engine...
 
Harry wrote:
On 2/25/10 8:39 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 17:05:24 -0800 (PST),
wrote:


Ford is the last well-run, independant American car company left. And
they make great vehicles!


Sometimes. Consistency seems to be the ingredient that's missing.



I rented a ford fusion recently. I wanted to rent a new taurus (renamed
from the "500" series, but the rental place was out of 'em. The fusion
was a piece of crap. It had 1500 miles on it, and already was beginning
to fall apart. The truck lid kept popping open of its own accord, the
shock or spring on the passenger rear side felt weak, the driver's side
front door wouldn't close properly, and it was an absolute slug getting
onto the expressways. I can't say that GM products are any better; the
last car I rented was a Pontiac and it, too, was a p.o.s.

I owned two Ford trucks, one a ford "splash" truck with a V-6. It was
trouble free. I replaced it with an F150, which had a slew of minor
deficiencies from the factory, including a front brake that dragged and
required many trips to the dealer before the whole assembly was replaced.

It would be nice if management and engineering at the U.S. auto
companies did more than *talk* about quality. Toyota obvious has had
some lapses recently, but I have a feeling management there will
straighten things out.

What could be more humorous than the right-wing nitwits here whining
about who owns GM? Who owns the highways you run your cars on? Who owns
the military about which you boys are always bragging?

Commie unionist puke. 'Nuff said.

Lib - They don't know free enterprise from socialism.



John H[_12_] February 26th 10 03:36 PM

Ford's new diesel engine...
 
On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 21:07:12 -0800 (PST), Jack wrote:

On Feb 25, 8:39*pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 17:05:24 -0800 (PST), Jack
wrote:



Ford is the last well-run, independant American car company left. *And
they make great vehicles!


Sometimes. * Consistency seems to be the ingredient that's missing.


But if you look at the reliability scores, Ford is *much* better than
GM in nearly all vehicles and areas. Here's just one point:

CONSUMER REPORTS’ 2009 ANNUAL CAR RELIABILITY SURVEY: FORD SECURES
PLACE AMONG WORLD’S MOST RELIABLE CARMAKERS

Ford Fusion, Mercury Milan Reliability Tops Honda Accord and Toyota
Camry

YONKERS, NY – Ford has secured its position as the only Detroit
automaker with world-class reliability. About 90 percent (46 of 51) of
Ford, Mercury, and Lincoln products were found to have average or
better reliability, according to Consumer Reports’ 2009 Annual Car
Reliability Survey. The results were announced today at an Automotive
Press Association luncheon in Detroit.

Ford’s sustained production of vehicles that are as dependable-or
better than-some of the industry’s best dispels the notion that only
Japanese manufacturers make reliable cars. Other than the Toyota
Prius, the reliability of the 4-cylinder Fusion
and Milan ranks higher than that of any other family sedan. Both of
those Ford Motor Company products continue to beat the Honda Accord
and Toyota Camry, while the upscale Lincoln MKZ tops its rivals, the
Acura TL and Lexus ES.


Oh well... in the end you pays you money and you takes your chances.
A bad experience can sour someone for a long time, and brand loyalty
can mask a lot of crap. Mine was a Honda... I had a really crappy
one, won't buy another, at least not soon.


When NBC presented the results of the Consumer Reports annual reliability
ratings, with Toyota, Honda, etc, taking the top ratings, they finished by
saying that there were several other auto ratings which had differing results.
For some reason, they didn't mention the results Ford achieved, nor did they
mention that Consumer Reports, unlike the others, does not take advertising
dollars from the car companies.
--

John H


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