Ford's new diesel engine...
 

http://www.fordvehicles.com/2011Supe...o=power-stroke

Anyone know anything about it? Is this something we should run out and buy as
our new boat hauler?

It is a way to fight socialism, after all.
--
Annoy a Liberal...practice personal responsibility!

John H

Ford's new diesel engine...
 

"John H" wrote in message
...
http://www.fordvehicles.com/2011Supe...o=power-stroke

Anyone know anything about it? Is this something we should run out and buy
as
our new boat hauler?

It is a way to fight socialism, after all.
--
Annoy a Liberal...practice personal responsibility!

John H

I get a kick out of the ad copy ..... "If you want something right, build it
yourself".
Ford has been purchasing their turbo diesels from Navistar International.
The 6.0L was a disaster. The 6.4L replacement was better, but still not
perfect.
Ford and Navistar were in a ****ing contest about who was responsible for
warranty claims on these engines. Now that the contract is up, this ad is
obviously a poke in the eye to Navistar by Ford.

Eisboch

Ford's new diesel engine...
 

On Feb 20, 7:16*am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"John H" wrote in message

...

http://www.fordvehicles.com/2011Supe...&video=power-s...

Anyone know anything about it? Is this something we should run out and buy
as
our new boat hauler?

It is a way to fight socialism, after all.
--
Annoy a Liberal...practice personal responsibility!

John H

I get a kick out of the ad copy ..... "If you want something right, build it
yourself".
Ford has been purchasing their turbo diesels from Navistar International.
The 6.0L was a disaster. *The 6.4L replacement was better, but still not
perfect.
Ford and Navistar were in a ****ing contest about who was responsible for
warranty claims on these engines. Now that the contract is up, this ad is
obviously a poke in the eye to Navistar by Ford.

Eisboch

Ford blames Navistar for building a junk engine, and Navistar counter-
sued stating the engine was built to Ford's design specifications.
That fight will go on for a few more years.

Ford's new diesel engine...
 

On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 08:16:30 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
.. .
http://www.fordvehicles.com/2011Supe...o=power-stroke

Anyone know anything about it? Is this something we should run out and buy
as
our new boat hauler?

It is a way to fight socialism, after all.
--
Annoy a Liberal...practice personal responsibility!

John H

I get a kick out of the ad copy ..... "If you want something right, build it
yourself".
Ford has been purchasing their turbo diesels from Navistar International.
The 6.0L was a disaster. The 6.4L replacement was better, but still not
perfect.
Ford and Navistar were in a ****ing contest about who was responsible for
warranty claims on these engines. Now that the contract is up, this ad is
obviously a poke in the eye to Navistar by Ford.

Eisboch


I noticed that also. I'm hoping to hear some good things about this engine.
We'll see.

Ford's new diesel engine...
 

On 19/02/2010 7:42 PM, John H wrote:
http://www.fordvehicles.com/2011Supe...o=power-stroke

Anyone know anything about it? Is this something we should run out and buy as
our new boat hauler?

It is a way to fight socialism, after all.

If you mean fighting socialism by buying Ford and not GM or Chrysler, I
would agree. Besides, there is a reason Ford is #1 in trucks.

Mine is a F150 Lariat 5.4L gas, perfect for what I use it for, but know
if I had a heavy boat I would do a F350 diesel in a heartbeat. One of
the last few decent American made vehicles left actually.

Ford's new diesel engine...
 

On Feb 19, 11:52*pm, Tim wrote:
On Feb 19, 8:42*pm, John H wrote:

http://www.fordvehicles.com/2011Supe...&video=power-s...

Anyone know anything about it? Is this something we should run out and buy as
our new boat hauler?

It is a way to fight socialism, after all.
--
Annoy a Liberal...practice personal responsibility!

John H

John, I'm always a bit leery of first run productions on something.
I'd rather somebody else buy it and watch and see how it holds
together, or ....falls apart.

Tim, notice how long it took? Liberal=bad right from the very
beginning from John, then insults to others from Scotty.

Ford's new diesel engine...
 

On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 11:03:49 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:

On 20/02/2010 8:37 AM, John H wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 07:30:21 -0700, wrote:

On 19/02/2010 7:42 PM, John H wrote:
http://www.fordvehicles.com/2011Supe...o=power-stroke

Anyone know anything about it? Is this something we should run out and buy as
our new boat hauler?

It is a way to fight socialism, after all.

If you mean fighting socialism by buying Ford and not GM or Chrysler, I
would agree. Besides, there is a reason Ford is #1 in trucks.

Why, absolutely!

Mine is a F150 Lariat 5.4L gas, perfect for what I use it for, but know
if I had a heavy boat I would do a F350 diesel in a heartbeat. One of
the last few decent American made vehicles left actually.

If we move up to something bigger, it would probably be an F250. Don't need
anything more than that, as long as it had a good diesel.

Agreed. F350, unless the boat is really a big boat, F250 might be
better. But for a 18' fishing boat, a F150 is plenty for me.


We're thinking of a 5th wheel RV sometime in the future. Of course, that assumes
we can ever get this new dog to travel more than five miles in the car without
throwing up three times. This thing is really afraid of cars.
--
John H

"A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul."
-- George Bernard Shaw

Ford's new diesel engine...
 

"John H" wrote in message
...

If we move up to something bigger, it would probably be an F250. Don't
need
anything more than that, as long as it had a good diesel.

Really isn't much difference between a F250 and a F350 other than spring
blocks and official factory ratings. But, depending on what you are towing,
you need to make sure the rating (even if it's just on paper) is high enough
to be legal.

Eisboch

Ford's new diesel engine...
 

On Feb 20, 9:20*am, I am Tosk
wrote:
In article ,
says...

John H

John, I'm always a bit leery of first run productions on something.
I'd rather somebody else buy it and watch and see how it holds
together, or ....falls apart.

Tim, notice how long it took? Liberal=bad right from the very
beginning from John, then insults to others from Scotty.

Yeah, you can stick your nose in and judge that. I have made about 5 defensive
posts here in the last few days. All have been "in response" to dozens and
dozens of repub bad, lib good posts from NDP and JPS... If you can't count, or
won't count and read, you really should hold your powder.

I guess it's only fair to Loogie if me and Tim sit here and listen to Harry and
JPS slam our beliefs, our states, our apperarnce, and everything else they can.
So Loogie, what number would make you happy. Should we wait till we have 40
attacks against our belief system before we fight back instead of the usual 30?

Scotty

--
Can I haz Cheezeburger?

Awwwwwwww SCOTT!

?;^ )

Ford's new diesel engine...
 

On Feb 20, 9:37*am, John H wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 07:30:21 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:
On 19/02/2010 7:42 PM, John H wrote:
http://www.fordvehicles.com/2011Supe...&video=power-s...

Anyone know anything about it? Is this something we should run out and buy as
our new boat hauler?

It is a way to fight socialism, after all.

If you mean fighting socialism by buying Ford and not GM or Chrysler, I
would agree. *Besides, there is a reason Ford is #1 in trucks.

Why, absolutely!

Mine is a F150 Lariat 5.4L gas, perfect for what I use it for, but know
if I had a heavy boat I would do a F350 diesel in a heartbeat. *One of
the last few decent American made vehicles left actually.

If we move up to something bigger, it would probably be an F250. Don't need
anything more than that, as long as it had a good diesel.

People, When it comes to rucks, I'm still a fan of the tried and true
Dodge with th Consolidated Diesel " Cummins" They're sill doing a
fantastic job. My brother has a 2003 and has pulled horse trailers all
around the US. plus using it for farm wagons and impliments. and has
have very little hassles outside of normal service. OPh yeah, it's got
all most 300,000 mi. on it now. He just got through replacing the
$80.00 power steering pump.

I still think that Dodge has a winner.

Ford's new diesel engine...
 

On Feb 20, 11:35*am, I am Tosk
wrote:
In article ,
says...







On Feb 20, 10:20 am, I am Tosk
wrote:
In article ,
says...

John H

John, I'm always a bit leery of first run productions on something.
I'd rather somebody else buy it and watch and see how it holds
together, or ....falls apart.

Tim, notice how long it took? Liberal=bad right from the very
beginning from John, then insults to others from Scotty.

Yeah, you can stick your nose in and judge that. I have made about 5 defensive
posts here in the last few days. All have been "in response" to dozens and
dozens of repub bad, lib good posts from NDP and JPS... If you can't count, or
won't count and read, you really should hold your powder.

I guess it's only fair to Loogie if me and Tim sit here and listen to Harry and
JPS slam our beliefs, our states, our apperarnce, and everything else they can.
So Loogie, what number would make you happy. Should we wait till we have 40
attacks against our belief system before we fight back instead of the usual 30?

Scotty

--
Can I haz Cheezeburger?

I guess you haven't notice my many, many responses to Harry's crap on
the other side of the fence, huh? I've said over and over and over, it
sucked when Harry and JPS were doing it, and it sucks when you, John,
Jim, etc. are doing it. **** it. I tried to take a peek in here in the
hopes it's improved. It's only gotten more assinine.

Yeah, with Harry, Slammer, and WF3H mostly gone, it's gotten worse... Guess we
know where you stand... snerk

Scotty

--
Can I haz Cheezeburger?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

AWWWWWWWWWWWW SCOTT!

?8^ 0

Ford's new diesel engine...
 

On Feb 20, 1:07*pm, Tim wrote:
On Feb 20, 9:37*am, John H wrote:





On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 07:30:21 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:
On 19/02/2010 7:42 PM, John H wrote:
http://www.fordvehicles.com/2011Supe...&video=power-s...

Anyone know anything about it? Is this something we should run out and buy as
our new boat hauler?

It is a way to fight socialism, after all.

If you mean fighting socialism by buying Ford and not GM or Chrysler, I
would agree. *Besides, there is a reason Ford is #1 in trucks.

Why, absolutely!

Mine is a F150 Lariat 5.4L gas, perfect for what I use it for, but know
if I had a heavy boat I would do a F350 diesel in a heartbeat. *One of
the last few decent American made vehicles left actually.

If we move up to something bigger, it would probably be an F250. Don't need
anything more than that, as long as it had a good diesel.

People, When it comes to rucks, I'm still a fan of the tried and true
Dodge with th Consolidated Diesel " Cummins" They're sill doing a
fantastic job. My brother has a 2003 and has pulled horse trailers all
around the US. plus using it for farm wagons and impliments. and has
have very little hassles outside of normal service. OPh yeah, it's got
all most 300,000 mi. on it now. He just got through replacing the
$80.00 power steering pump.

I still think that Dodge has a winner.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

"rucks"
"th"
"Oph"

Man, If you can make it though that train wreck you get a medal!

?;^ Q

Ford's new diesel engine...
 

On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 13:41:51 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
.. .

If we move up to something bigger, it would probably be an F250. Don't
need
anything more than that, as long as it had a good diesel.

Really isn't much difference between a F250 and a F350 other than spring
blocks and official factory ratings. But, depending on what you are towing,
you need to make sure the rating (even if it's just on paper) is high enough
to be legal.

Eisboch

Something along the 25-28 foot fifth wheel. The 250 is a pretty popular tow
vehicle from what we've seen at the campsites.
--
John H

"A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul."
-- George Bernard Shaw

Ford's new diesel engine...
 

John H wrote:
http://www.fordvehicles.com/2011Supe...o=power-stroke

Anyone know anything about it? Is this something we should run out and buy as
our new boat hauler?

It is a way to fight socialism, after all.

It's Mex-built, so it's a go.

Lib - 'Bama and the UAW. Libs and thugs team up to destroy America.

Ford's new diesel engine...
 

On Feb 20, 1:59*pm, Jim "Jim wrote:
John H wrote:
http://www.fordvehicles.com/2011Supe...&video=power-s...

Anyone know anything about it? Is this something we should run out and buy as
our new boat hauler?

It is a way to fight socialism, after all.

It's Mex-built, so it's a go.

Lib - 'Bama and the UAW. *Libs and thugs team up to destroy America.



i like the propaghanda.

"#

"Proven Tough

* Coming Spring 2010"

Ford's new diesel engine...
 

"John H" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 13:41:51 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
. ..

If we move up to something bigger, it would probably be an F250. Don't
need
anything more than that, as long as it had a good diesel.

Really isn't much difference between a F250 and a F350 other than spring
blocks and official factory ratings. But, depending on what you are
towing,
you need to make sure the rating (even if it's just on paper) is high
enough
to be legal.

Eisboch

Something along the 25-28 foot fifth wheel. The 250 is a pretty popular
tow
vehicle from what we've seen at the campsites.


If and when the times comes, it's worth doing your homework. As I
mentioned, the differences between the F250 and F350 are minor and mostly on
paper. No point in spending the extra $$ for a F350. I suspect a F250
will be more than enough for a fiver in that size range, but don't take my
word for it. It's been awhile since I did all that investigation.

Eisboch

Ford's new diesel engine...
 

On Feb 20, 2:29*pm, John H wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 13:41:51 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
.. .

If we move up to something bigger, it would probably be an F250. Don't
need
anything more than that, as long as it had a good diesel.

Really isn't much difference between a F250 and a F350 other than spring
blocks and official factory ratings. *But, depending on what you are towing,
you need to make sure the rating (even if it's just on paper) is high enough
to be legal.

Eisboch

Something along the 25-28 foot fifth wheel. The 250 is a pretty popular tow
vehicle from what we've seen at the campsites.
--
John H

"A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul."
-- George Bernard Shaw

I'm a big fan of a motorhome with a towed rather than a trailer/fifth
wheel and a big hauler.

Unless you can afford to park the hauler and use it only for your
camping trips, you're stuck driving this big freaking vehicle around
all the time... including when camping.

With the class A, you drive it to/from your destination. Then you
drive your towed vehicle around, and it can be anything fun/economical/
cool that you want. Plus you can make sandwiches, the wife can go to
the bathroom and dry her hair while going down the road. While not
camping, the behemoth is parked.

Unless you need that F350 for something else, I don't see the upside.
But that's me.

Ford's new diesel engine...
 

On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 14:57:08 -0800 (PST), Jack wrote:

On Feb 20, 2:29*pm, John H wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 13:41:51 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
.. .

If we move up to something bigger, it would probably be an F250. Don't
need
anything more than that, as long as it had a good diesel.

Really isn't much difference between a F250 and a F350 other than spring
blocks and official factory ratings. *But, depending on what you are towing,
you need to make sure the rating (even if it's just on paper) is high enough
to be legal.

Eisboch

Something along the 25-28 foot fifth wheel. The 250 is a pretty popular tow
vehicle from what we've seen at the campsites.
--
John H

"A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul."
-- George Bernard Shaw

I'm a big fan of a motorhome with a towed rather than a trailer/fifth
wheel and a big hauler.

Unless you can afford to park the hauler and use it only for your
camping trips, you're stuck driving this big freaking vehicle around
all the time... including when camping.

With the class A, you drive it to/from your destination. Then you
drive your towed vehicle around, and it can be anything fun/economical/
cool that you want. Plus you can make sandwiches, the wife can go to
the bathroom and dry her hair while going down the road. While not
camping, the behemoth is parked.

Unless you need that F350 for something else, I don't see the upside.
But that's me.

A 250's the biggest I'd go. There are pros and cons to both, but we've about
settled on the travel trailer route. The motorhomes are just too much for the
amount of travelling we'd do.
--
John H

"A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul."
-- George Bernard Shaw

Ford's new diesel engine...
 

John H wrote:
http://www.fordvehicles.com/2011Supe...o=power-stroke

Anyone know anything about it? Is this something we should run out and buy as
our new boat hauler?

It is a way to fight socialism, after all.

I've got a diesel on order. It's made in Germany. 27 MPG!

Ford's new diesel engine... I remember when....
 

"YDOD" wrote in message
...


I can still remember Ford's "quiet man" campaign where they got rich
people who owned super luxury cars to drive a Ford and then say how much
quieter it was than their own car. I wonder what happened to that concept.
Hardly fits in with the Pinto gas tanks and the Explorer tires does it.

I remember those ads. They were associated with the introduction of the
1965 Ford models, which was a total re-design from the older frame and body
design that had existed from 1960 until 1964.

The ads included audio measurement gear that actually showed that the '65,
full sized Ford was more quiet than a Mercedes or Caddy.

They were. Those Fords were a revolution in lower cost car design that rode
well and were quiet.
Too bad the frames rotten out in a few years, but that was a minor detail.

Eisboch

Ford's new diesel engine...
 

John H wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 14:57:08 -0800 (PST), wrote:


On Feb 20, 2:29 pm, John wrote:

On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 13:41:51 -0500, wrote:


"John wrote in message
...


If we move up to something bigger, it would probably be an F250. Don't
need
anything more than that, as long as it had a good diesel.


Really isn't much difference between a F250 and a F350 other than spring
blocks and official factory ratings. But, depending on what you are towing,
you need to make sure the rating (even if it's just on paper) is high enough
to be legal.


Eisboch

Something along the 25-28 foot fifth wheel. The 250 is a pretty popular tow
vehicle from what we've seen at the campsites.
--
John H

"A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul."
-- George Bernard Shaw

I'm a big fan of a motorhome with a towed rather than a trailer/fifth
wheel and a big hauler.

Unless you can afford to park the hauler and use it only for your
camping trips, you're stuck driving this big freaking vehicle around
all the time... including when camping.

With the class A, you drive it to/from your destination. Then you
drive your towed vehicle around, and it can be anything fun/economical/
cool that you want. Plus you can make sandwiches, the wife can go to
the bathroom and dry her hair while going down the road. While not
camping, the behemoth is parked.

Unless you need that F350 for something else, I don't see the upside.
But that's me.

A 250's the biggest I'd go. There are pros and cons to both, but we've about
settled on the travel trailer route. The motorhomes are just too much for the
amount of travelling we'd do.
--
John H

"A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul."
-- George Bernard Shaw

Yup - Fixed costs. Hotels are much cheaper and there is no maintenance!

Bruce

Ford's new diesel engine... I remember when....
 

On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 21:05:11 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

Too bad the frames rotted out in a few years

That was actually a major improvement. I had a '58 Ford Fairlane when
I was in college where *everything* rotted out. :-)

I did get my money's worth however. I bought it used in the summer of
'65 for $265, drove it for a year, put 19,000 miles on it, and sold it
for $250.

Ford's new diesel engine...
 

On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 20:47:32 -0500, Bruce wrote:

John H wrote:
http://www.fordvehicles.com/2011Supe...o=power-stroke

Anyone know anything about it? Is this something we should run out and buy as
our new boat hauler?

It is a way to fight socialism, after all.

I've got a diesel on order. It's made in Germany. 27 MPG!

Mercedes?
--
John H

"A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul."
-- George Bernard Shaw

Ford's new diesel engine...
 

On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 22:13:08 -0500, Bruce wrote:

John H wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 14:57:08 -0800 (PST), wrote:


On Feb 20, 2:29 pm, John wrote:

On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 13:41:51 -0500, wrote:


"John wrote in message
...


If we move up to something bigger, it would probably be an F250. Don't
need
anything more than that, as long as it had a good diesel.


Really isn't much difference between a F250 and a F350 other than spring
blocks and official factory ratings. But, depending on what you are towing,
you need to make sure the rating (even if it's just on paper) is high enough
to be legal.


Eisboch

Something along the 25-28 foot fifth wheel. The 250 is a pretty popular tow
vehicle from what we've seen at the campsites.
--
John H

"A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul."
-- George Bernard Shaw

I'm a big fan of a motorhome with a towed rather than a trailer/fifth
wheel and a big hauler.

Unless you can afford to park the hauler and use it only for your
camping trips, you're stuck driving this big freaking vehicle around
all the time... including when camping.

With the class A, you drive it to/from your destination. Then you
drive your towed vehicle around, and it can be anything fun/economical/
cool that you want. Plus you can make sandwiches, the wife can go to
the bathroom and dry her hair while going down the road. While not
camping, the behemoth is parked.

Unless you need that F350 for something else, I don't see the upside.
But that's me.

A 250's the biggest I'd go. There are pros and cons to both, but we've about
settled on the travel trailer route. The motorhomes are just too much for the
amount of travelling we'd do.
--
John H

"A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul."
-- George Bernard Shaw

Yup - Fixed costs. Hotels are much cheaper and there is no maintenance!

Bruce

My wife has an aversion to hotel beds. Weird, but that's life. We really do
enjoy the little 18' trailer we've got. There is no rush to get into something
bigger, but if we did, it would probably be a fifth-wheel trailer.
--
John H

"A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul."
-- George Bernard Shaw

Ford's new diesel engine...
 

On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 10:54:16 -0500, John H wrote:

On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 20:47:32 -0500, Bruce wrote:

John H wrote:
http://www.fordvehicles.com/2011Supe...o=power-stroke

Anyone know anything about it? Is this something we should run out and buy as
our new boat hauler?

It is a way to fight socialism, after all.

I've got a diesel on order. It's made in Germany. 27 MPG!

Mercedes?

VW

Ford's new diesel engine...
 

John H wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 20:47:32 -0500, wrote:


John H wrote:

http://www.fordvehicles.com/2011Supe...o=power-stroke

Anyone know anything about it? Is this something we should run out and buy as
our new boat hauler?

It is a way to fight socialism, after all.


I've got a diesel on order. It's made in Germany. 27 MPG!

Mercedes?
--
John H

"A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul."
-- George Bernard Shaw

Nope.

Ford's new diesel engine...
 

John H wrote:

On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 10:54:16 -0500, John H wrote:

On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 20:47:32 -0500, Bruce
wrote:

John H wrote:

http://www.fordvehicles.com/2011Supe...video=power-st
roke

Anyone know anything about it? Is this something we should run
out and buy as our new boat hauler?

It is a way to fight socialism, after all.

I've got a diesel on order. It's made in Germany. 27 MPG!

Mercedes?

VW

When I took my '02 7.3L Superduty in on the last cruise control recall
I got to talking with the diesel service manager about the new diesel
and he told me that it was to be built in Brazil. It will be
interesting to see how it works out usually first year new products
have teething problems. I doubt I will be getting a new one anyway I've
only got about 48K on the one I have now and it pulls our 28' sailboat
and 24'TT just fine. Jim

--

Ford's new diesel engine...
 

On Feb 24, 9:24*am, "James" wrote:
John H wrote:
On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 10:54:16 -0500, John H wrote:

On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 20:47:32 -0500, Bruce
wrote:

John H wrote:

http://www.fordvehicles.com/2011Supe...video=power-st
roke

Anyone know anything about it? Is this something we should run
out and buy as our new boat hauler?

It is a way to fight socialism, after all.

I've got a diesel on order. *It's made in Germany. *27 MPG!

Mercedes?

VW

When I took my '02 7.3L Superduty in on the last cruise control recall
I got to talking with the diesel service manager about the new diesel
and he told me that it was to be built in Brazil. It will be
interesting to see how it works out usually first year new products
have teething problems. I doubt I will be getting a new one anyway I've
only got about 48K on the one I have now and it pulls our 28' sailboat
and 24'TT just fine. Jim

--- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yeah, man. Keep it as long as you can...

Ford's new diesel engine...
 

On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:09:40 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 21:42:06 -0500, John H
wrote:

http://www.fordvehicles.com/2011Supe...o=power-stroke

Anyone know anything about it? Is this something we should run out and buy as
our new boat hauler?

It is a way to fight socialism, after all.

POS.... I just bought a 2010 Chevy. I invested in the USA.....

Well done!

Ford's new diesel engine...
 

On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:09:40 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 21:42:06 -0500, John H
wrote:

http://www.fordvehicles.com/2011Supe...o=power-stroke

Anyone know anything about it? Is this something we should run out and buy as
our new boat hauler?

It is a way to fight socialism, after all.

POS.... I just bought a 2010 Chevy. I invested in the USA.....

WTG, Gene.

Proud of you!
--

John H

Ford's new diesel engine...
 

On Feb 24, 7:09*pm, Gene wrote:
On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 21:42:06 -0500, John H

wrote:
http://www.fordvehicles.com/2011Supe...&video=power-s...

Anyone know anything about it? Is this something we should run out and buy as
our new boat hauler?

It is a way to fight socialism, after all.

POS.... I just bought a 2010 Chevy. I invested in the USA.....

At least the POS you bought is somewhat made in the USA. Better than
a Titan, but it's still Government Motors. Maybe one day you can step
up and buy the last American made truck, a Ford, something that's not
sucking off the government teat.

Hey, there's always hope...

Ford's new diesel engine...
 

Tim wrote:

On Feb 24, 9:24*am, "James" wrote:
John H wrote:
On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 10:54:16 -0500, John H wrote:

On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 20:47:32 -0500, Bruce
wrote:

John H wrote:

http://www.fordvehicles.com/2011Supe...ain&video=powe
r-st roke

Anyone know anything about it? Is this something we should run
out and buy as our new boat hauler?

It is a way to fight socialism, after all.

I've got a diesel on order. *It's made in Germany. *27 MPG!

Mercedes?

VW

When I took my '02 7.3L Superduty in on the last cruise control
recall I got to talking with the diesel service manager about the
new diesel and he told me that it was to be built in Brazil. It
will be interesting to see how it works out usually first year new
products have teething problems. I doubt I will be getting a new
one anyway I've only got about 48K on the one I have now and it
pulls our 28' sailboat and 24'TT just fine. Jim

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Yeah, man. Keep it as long as you can...

The other nice thing about it is it's paid for. Jim

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On Feb 24, 11:46*pm, Jack wrote:
On Feb 24, 7:09*pm, Gene wrote:

On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 21:42:06 -0500, John H

wrote:
http://www.fordvehicles.com/2011Supe...&video=power-s...

Anyone know anything about it? Is this something we should run out and buy as
our new boat hauler?

It is a way to fight socialism, after all.

POS.... I just bought a 2010 Chevy. I invested in the USA.....

At least the POS you bought is somewhat made in the USA. *Better than
a Titan, but it's still Government Motors. *Maybe one day you can step
up and buy the last American made truck, a Ford, something that's not
sucking off the government teat.

Hey, there's always hope...

begore anyone screams Mom, apple pie and Chevrolet, you'd be amazed at
how many out of country, out-sourced parts are used on that trucks
assembly.

Actually all of tucks outsource a lot of them. Japanese, Brazilian,
Mexican, Canadian, engines, transmissions, electrics, and the list
goes on......

Ford's new diesel engine...
 

On Feb 25, 4:55*pm, Tim wrote:
On Feb 24, 11:46*pm, Jack wrote:





On Feb 24, 7:09*pm, Gene wrote:

On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 21:42:06 -0500, John H

wrote:
http://www.fordvehicles.com/2011Supe...&video=power-s...

Anyone know anything about it? Is this something we should run out and buy as
our new boat hauler?

It is a way to fight socialism, after all.

POS.... I just bought a 2010 Chevy. I invested in the USA.....

At least the POS you bought is somewhat made in the USA. *Better than
a Titan, but it's still Government Motors. *Maybe one day you can step
up and buy the last American made truck, a Ford, something that's not
sucking off the government teat.

Hey, there's always hope...

begore anyone screams Mom, apple pie and Chevrolet, you'd be amazed at
how many out of country, out-sourced parts are used on that trucks
assembly.

Actually all of tucks outsource a lot of them. Japanese, Brazilian,
Mexican, Canadian, engines, transmissions, electrics, and the list
goes on......

Yeah, I know... just poking on Gene a bit. Dodge is so watered down
it's hard to tell what they are, GM is a socialist gov owned entity
that can't find their ass with both hands tied behind their back.

Ford is the last well-run, independant American car company left. And
they make great vehicles!

Ford's new diesel engine...
 

On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 17:05:24 -0800 (PST), Jack
wrote:


Ford is the last well-run, independant American car company left. And
they make great vehicles!

Sometimes. Consistency seems to be the ingredient that's missing.

Ford's new diesel engine...
 

On 2/25/10 8:39 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 17:05:24 -0800 (PST),
wrote:


Ford is the last well-run, independant American car company left. And
they make great vehicles!

Sometimes. Consistency seems to be the ingredient that's missing.


I rented a ford fusion recently. I wanted to rent a new taurus (renamed
from the "500" series, but the rental place was out of 'em. The fusion
was a piece of crap. It had 1500 miles on it, and already was beginning
to fall apart. The truck lid kept popping open of its own accord, the
shock or spring on the passenger rear side felt weak, the driver's side
front door wouldn't close properly, and it was an absolute slug getting
onto the expressways. I can't say that GM products are any better; the
last car I rented was a Pontiac and it, too, was a p.o.s.

I owned two Ford trucks, one a ford "splash" truck with a V-6. It was
trouble free. I replaced it with an F150, which had a slew of minor
deficiencies from the factory, including a front brake that dragged and
required many trips to the dealer before the whole assembly was replaced.

It would be nice if management and engineering at the U.S. auto
companies did more than *talk* about quality. Toyota obvious has had
some lapses recently, but I have a feeling management there will
straighten things out.

What could be more humorous than the right-wing nitwits here whining
about who owns GM? Who owns the highways you run your cars on? Who owns
the military about which you boys are always bragging?

Ford's new diesel engine...
 

On Feb 25, 8:39*pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 17:05:24 -0800 (PST), Jack
wrote:



Ford is the last well-run, independant American car company left. *And
they make great vehicles!

Sometimes. * Consistency seems to be the ingredient that's missing.

But if you look at the reliability scores, Ford is *much* better than
GM in nearly all vehicles and areas. Here's just one point:

CONSUMER REPORTS’ 2009 ANNUAL CAR RELIABILITY SURVEY: FORD SECURES
PLACE AMONG WORLD’S MOST RELIABLE CARMAKERS

Ford Fusion, Mercury Milan Reliability Tops Honda Accord and Toyota
Camry

YONKERS, NY – Ford has secured its position as the only Detroit
automaker with world-class reliability. About 90 percent (46 of 51) of
Ford, Mercury, and Lincoln products were found to have average or
better reliability, according to Consumer Reports’ 2009 Annual Car
Reliability Survey. The results were announced today at an Automotive
Press Association luncheon in Detroit.

Ford’s sustained production of vehicles that are as dependable-or
better than-some of the industry’s best dispels the notion that only
Japanese manufacturers make reliable cars. Other than the Toyota
Prius, the reliability of the 4-cylinder Fusion
and Milan ranks higher than that of any other family sedan. Both of
those Ford Motor Company products continue to beat the Honda Accord
and Toyota Camry, while the upscale Lincoln MKZ tops its rivals, the
Acura TL and Lexus ES.


Oh well... in the end you pays you money and you takes your chances.
A bad experience can sour someone for a long time, and brand loyalty
can mask a lot of crap. Mine was a Honda... I had a really crappy
one, won't buy another, at least not soon.

Ford's new diesel engine...
 

Harry wrote:
On 2/25/10 8:39 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 17:05:24 -0800 (PST),
wrote:


Ford is the last well-run, independant American car company left. And
they make great vehicles!

Sometimes. Consistency seems to be the ingredient that's missing.


I rented a ford fusion recently. I wanted to rent a new taurus (renamed
from the "500" series, but the rental place was out of 'em. The fusion
was a piece of crap. It had 1500 miles on it, and already was beginning
to fall apart. The truck lid kept popping open of its own accord, the
shock or spring on the passenger rear side felt weak, the driver's side
front door wouldn't close properly, and it was an absolute slug getting
onto the expressways. I can't say that GM products are any better; the
last car I rented was a Pontiac and it, too, was a p.o.s.

I owned two Ford trucks, one a ford "splash" truck with a V-6. It was
trouble free. I replaced it with an F150, which had a slew of minor
deficiencies from the factory, including a front brake that dragged and
required many trips to the dealer before the whole assembly was replaced.

It would be nice if management and engineering at the U.S. auto
companies did more than *talk* about quality. Toyota obvious has had
some lapses recently, but I have a feeling management there will
straighten things out.

What could be more humorous than the right-wing nitwits here whining
about who owns GM? Who owns the highways you run your cars on? Who owns
the military about which you boys are always bragging?

Commie unionist puke. 'Nuff said.

Lib - They don't know free enterprise from socialism.

Ford's new diesel engine...
 

On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 21:07:12 -0800 (PST), Jack wrote:

On Feb 25, 8:39*pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 17:05:24 -0800 (PST), Jack
wrote:



Ford is the last well-run, independant American car company left. *And
they make great vehicles!

Sometimes. * Consistency seems to be the ingredient that's missing.

But if you look at the reliability scores, Ford is *much* better than
GM in nearly all vehicles and areas. Here's just one point:

CONSUMER REPORTS’ 2009 ANNUAL CAR RELIABILITY SURVEY: FORD SECURES
PLACE AMONG WORLD’S MOST RELIABLE CARMAKERS

Ford Fusion, Mercury Milan Reliability Tops Honda Accord and Toyota
Camry

YONKERS, NY – Ford has secured its position as the only Detroit
automaker with world-class reliability. About 90 percent (46 of 51) of
Ford, Mercury, and Lincoln products were found to have average or
better reliability, according to Consumer Reports’ 2009 Annual Car
Reliability Survey. The results were announced today at an Automotive
Press Association luncheon in Detroit.

Ford’s sustained production of vehicles that are as dependable-or
better than-some of the industry’s best dispels the notion that only
Japanese manufacturers make reliable cars. Other than the Toyota
Prius, the reliability of the 4-cylinder Fusion
and Milan ranks higher than that of any other family sedan. Both of
those Ford Motor Company products continue to beat the Honda Accord
and Toyota Camry, while the upscale Lincoln MKZ tops its rivals, the
Acura TL and Lexus ES.


Oh well... in the end you pays you money and you takes your chances.
A bad experience can sour someone for a long time, and brand loyalty
can mask a lot of crap. Mine was a Honda... I had a really crappy
one, won't buy another, at least not soon.

When NBC presented the results of the Consumer Reports annual reliability
ratings, with Toyota, Honda, etc, taking the top ratings, they finished by
saying that there were several other auto ratings which had differing results.
For some reason, they didn't mention the results Ford achieved, nor did they
mention that Consumer Reports, unlike the others, does not take advertising
dollars from the car companies.
--

John H