In article ,
says...

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:48:32 -0600, wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 21:42:11 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 21:31:28 -0500, I am Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:33:23 -0500, Harry
wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 19:57:23 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:09:08 -0600, wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:36:40 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 17:15:18 -0600, wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 14:34:12 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
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MESQUITE, Texas -

The parents of a 4-year-old boy disciplined for having long hair have
rejected a compromise from a Texas school board that agreed to adjust
its grooming policy.

The impasse means pre-kindergartner Taylor Pugh will remain in
in-school suspension, sitting alone with a teacher's aide in a
library. He has been sequestered from classmates at Floyd Elementary
School in Mesquite, a Dallas suburb, since late November.

After a closed-door meeting Monday, the Mesquite school board decided
the boy could wear his hair in tight braids but keep it no longer than
his ears. But his parents say the adjustment isn't enough for Taylor,
who wears his hair long, covering his earlobes and shirt collar.

His mother, Elizabeth Taylor, said she'll pull back Taylor's hair in a
ponytail, acknowledging the style will keep him suspended.

According to the district dress code, boys' hair must be kept out of
the eyes and cannot extend below the bottom of earlobes or over the
collar of a dress shirt. Fads in hairstyles "designed to attract
attention to the individual or to disrupt the orderly conduct of the
classroom or campus is not permitted," the policy states.

The district is known for standing tough on its dress code. Last year,
a seventh-grader was sent home for wearing black skinny pants. His
parents chose to home-school him.

On its Web site, the district says its code is in place because
"students who dress and groom themselves neatly, and in an acceptable
and appropriate manner, are more likely to become constructive members
of the society in which we live."

Taylor said her fight is not over. She and her husband are considering
taking the district to court or appealing to the State Board of
Education.

"I know that there are a whole set of steps we can take," she said.



God forbid individualism. That's too American for Texas.

Where's the outrage by the right for the trampling of individual freedom???
Individual freedoms in a goverment-subsidized school?
Since private (for profit) (and home) schools are created for the
purpose of segregating children from those "goverment-subsidized (sic)
schools" their expressed purpose is to prevent individual thought,
freedom, expression, etc.

Been there, done that, got the T-shirt on both sides of that argument.
"government-subsidized (sic)"? Is that you have issues with a
legitmately hyphenized word construction or that you object to the
description of schools receiving government monies as being
subsidized?
My issue was with "goverment," not the rest of your straw man. It
reminded me of nukular. Nice retype....

And your proposition that "schools are created for the
purpose of segregating children from those...schools...their expressed
purpose is to prevent individual thought, freedom, expression" is not
a sound proposition. (Don't worry. I won't (sic) you (even if you
left out a comma).)
http://www.wordnik.com/words/governm...dized/examples
It is a VERY sound proposition. Private schools are private because
they set themselves apart from "the public" because they espouse some
belief or attitude that sets them apart from public schools. It is
how they define themselves.

Not withstanding that you have assigned fallacy to an interrogative,
you have feigned erudition in clumsily applying a denotation generally
employed in the quoting of an immediate sentential error. And if that
isn't abstruse enough for you, your proposition was confined to the
explicit contention that the expressed purpose of the private school
is to *prevent* individual thought, freedom, expression, and so on. It
is a narrow-minded proposition and can be denied by those who find
other credible reasons to find legal, viable alternatives in private
education that may be as benign as wanting to insure a quality
education for a child. Your entire retort has been banal, if I may be
equally condescending.


Depends on the private, religious school. If the school is being run by
fundamentalist christian protestants, it is run to prevent individual
thought, freedom, expression, and so on, and socializing with children
whose parents allow them to think.

Fundamentalist christian protestantism is the american version of
talibanism.

I really wasn't trying to go there, but since you have.... one of the
chairs at my college developed a very general program to aid home
schoolers in learning teaching strategies, how to spot learning
disabilities, etc......

The program never happened. She was absolutely vilified by the
fundies, not only verbally, but in writing on forums and blogs. Purely
an US agin' THEM (public/worldly heathen) argument that held no
substance, but was all about how folks had been indoctrinated.

I've had better than 37 years to see this over and over and over......
whether religious, cultural, socioeconomic, whatever, it all comes out
the same...... indoctrination over education......

I know lot's of young athletes who are home schooled so they can spend
more time working on their sport and participate in national events.
Penn-Foster is popular, and there are a few other good secular home
school programs. When I home schooled my daughter for two years it was
not as easy to find secular programs, but there are plenty of them out
there now. Back then, we actually worked with the school and combined
two programs along with a lot of material from the school in town. She
was able to attend some functions too. As to your long history of hate
and bigotry against anything non-secular, this line of thought from you
is not unexpected but still, way off the mark as usual...


Your bigotry is showing. Secular vs. non-secular is not an issue
beyond some weighted geographic issues....

The vinegar bottle is an equal opportunity depriver...

You taught your daughter. I've taught hundreds of folks in the last
few decades. You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but you lack
depth of experience.

And you have homeschooled for an appreciable time?

Yes, I have, and my son attended both a private school and a Baptist
Academy for several years.

In addition to all of that..... I have learned from my mistakes......
I judge, from your posts, that you haven't.

I have to wonder if you intimidate and mock Christian students in your
charge. My kid had a teacher like that a few years ago, used to really
crush one of her friends pretty bad for being religious. Right in front
of the other kids, it was bad...

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 23:04:53 -0500, I am Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:48:32 -0600, wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 21:42:11 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 21:31:28 -0500, I am Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:33:23 -0500, Harry
wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 19:57:23 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:09:08 -0600, wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:36:40 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 17:15:18 -0600, wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 14:34:12 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
...
MESQUITE, Texas -

The parents of a 4-year-old boy disciplined for having long hair have
rejected a compromise from a Texas school board that agreed to adjust
its grooming policy.

The impasse means pre-kindergartner Taylor Pugh will remain in
in-school suspension, sitting alone with a teacher's aide in a
library. He has been sequestered from classmates at Floyd Elementary
School in Mesquite, a Dallas suburb, since late November.

After a closed-door meeting Monday, the Mesquite school board decided
the boy could wear his hair in tight braids but keep it no longer than
his ears. But his parents say the adjustment isn't enough for Taylor,
who wears his hair long, covering his earlobes and shirt collar.

His mother, Elizabeth Taylor, said she'll pull back Taylor's hair in a
ponytail, acknowledging the style will keep him suspended.

According to the district dress code, boys' hair must be kept out of
the eyes and cannot extend below the bottom of earlobes or over the
collar of a dress shirt. Fads in hairstyles "designed to attract
attention to the individual or to disrupt the orderly conduct of the
classroom or campus is not permitted," the policy states.

The district is known for standing tough on its dress code. Last year,
a seventh-grader was sent home for wearing black skinny pants. His
parents chose to home-school him.

On its Web site, the district says its code is in place because
"students who dress and groom themselves neatly, and in an acceptable
and appropriate manner, are more likely to become constructive members
of the society in which we live."

Taylor said her fight is not over. She and her husband are considering
taking the district to court or appealing to the State Board of
Education.

"I know that there are a whole set of steps we can take," she said.



God forbid individualism. That's too American for Texas.

Where's the outrage by the right for the trampling of individual freedom???
Individual freedoms in a goverment-subsidized school?
Since private (for profit) (and home) schools are created for the
purpose of segregating children from those "goverment-subsidized (sic)
schools" their expressed purpose is to prevent individual thought,
freedom, expression, etc.

Been there, done that, got the T-shirt on both sides of that argument.
"government-subsidized (sic)"? Is that you have issues with a
legitmately hyphenized word construction or that you object to the
description of schools receiving government monies as being
subsidized?
My issue was with "goverment," not the rest of your straw man. It
reminded me of nukular. Nice retype....

And your proposition that "schools are created for the
purpose of segregating children from those...schools...their expressed
purpose is to prevent individual thought, freedom, expression" is not
a sound proposition. (Don't worry. I won't (sic) you (even if you
left out a comma).)
http://www.wordnik.com/words/governm...dized/examples
It is a VERY sound proposition. Private schools are private because
they set themselves apart from "the public" because they espouse some
belief or attitude that sets them apart from public schools. It is
how they define themselves.

Not withstanding that you have assigned fallacy to an interrogative,
you have feigned erudition in clumsily applying a denotation generally
employed in the quoting of an immediate sentential error. And if that
isn't abstruse enough for you, your proposition was confined to the
explicit contention that the expressed purpose of the private school
is to *prevent* individual thought, freedom, expression, and so on. It
is a narrow-minded proposition and can be denied by those who find
other credible reasons to find legal, viable alternatives in private
education that may be as benign as wanting to insure a quality
education for a child. Your entire retort has been banal, if I may be
equally condescending.


Depends on the private, religious school. If the school is being run by
fundamentalist christian protestants, it is run to prevent individual
thought, freedom, expression, and so on, and socializing with children
whose parents allow them to think.

Fundamentalist christian protestantism is the american version of
talibanism.

I really wasn't trying to go there, but since you have.... one of the
chairs at my college developed a very general program to aid home
schoolers in learning teaching strategies, how to spot learning
disabilities, etc......

The program never happened. She was absolutely vilified by the
fundies, not only verbally, but in writing on forums and blogs. Purely
an US agin' THEM (public/worldly heathen) argument that held no
substance, but was all about how folks had been indoctrinated.

I've had better than 37 years to see this over and over and over......
whether religious, cultural, socioeconomic, whatever, it all comes out
the same...... indoctrination over education......

I know lot's of young athletes who are home schooled so they can spend
more time working on their sport and participate in national events.
Penn-Foster is popular, and there are a few other good secular home
school programs. When I home schooled my daughter for two years it was
not as easy to find secular programs, but there are plenty of them out
there now. Back then, we actually worked with the school and combined
two programs along with a lot of material from the school in town. She
was able to attend some functions too. As to your long history of hate
and bigotry against anything non-secular, this line of thought from you
is not unexpected but still, way off the mark as usual...


Your bigotry is showing. Secular vs. non-secular is not an issue
beyond some weighted geographic issues....

The vinegar bottle is an equal opportunity depriver...

You taught your daughter. I've taught hundreds of folks in the last
few decades. You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but you lack
depth of experience.

And you have homeschooled for an appreciable time?

Yes, I have, and my son attended both a private school and a Baptist
Academy for several years.

In addition to all of that..... I have learned from my mistakes......
I judge, from your posts, that you haven't.

I have to wonder if you intimidate and mock Christian students in your
charge. My kid had a teacher like that a few years ago, used to really
crush one of her friends pretty bad for being religious. Right in front
of the other kids, it was bad...

It's the Tyranny of Conceit...

"I am Tosk" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:48:32 -0600, wrote:


I have to wonder if you intimidate and mock Christian students in your
charge. My kid had a teacher like that a few years ago, used to really
crush one of her friends pretty bad for being religious. Right in front
of the other kids, it was bad...

Our kids go to a private Catholic school for just that reason. The PC of
public schools is out of control. I want my kids to be proud of their
religion, and get a top notch education to boot. The public schools around
here, just plain suck.

--Mike

mgg wrote:
"I am Tosk" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:48:32 -0600, wrote:

I have to wonder if you intimidate and mock Christian students in your
charge. My kid had a teacher like that a few years ago, used to really
crush one of her friends pretty bad for being religious. Right in front
of the other kids, it was bad...

Our kids go to a private Catholic school for just that reason. The PC of
public schools is out of control. I want my kids to be proud of their
religion, and get a top notch education to boot. The public schools around
here, just plain suck.

--Mike




Religion is something in which to be "prideful"?


--
Where others have hearts, right-wingers carry tumors of rotten principles.

mgg wrote:
"I am Tosk" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:48:32 -0600, wrote:

I have to wonder if you intimidate and mock Christian students in your
charge. My kid had a teacher like that a few years ago, used to really
crush one of her friends pretty bad for being religious. Right in front
of the other kids, it was bad...

Our kids go to a private Catholic school for just that reason. The PC of
public schools is out of control. I want my kids to be proud of their
religion, and get a top notch education to boot. The public schools around
here, just plain suck.

--Mike



How do you explain the pedophiliac priests? Are you proud of that aspect
of your religion, too?

Harry wrote:
mgg wrote:
"I am Tosk" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:48:32 -0600, wrote:

I have to wonder if you intimidate and mock Christian students in your
charge. My kid had a teacher like that a few years ago, used to really
crush one of her friends pretty bad for being religious. Right in front
of the other kids, it was bad...

Our kids go to a private Catholic school for just that reason. The PC
of public schools is out of control. I want my kids to be proud of
their religion, and get a top notch education to boot. The public
schools around here, just plain suck.

--Mike


How do you explain the pedophiliac priests? Are you proud of that aspect
of your religion, too?

Wow, can i volunteer to help the kiddies?

"Don White" wrote in message
news
Harry wrote:
mgg wrote:
"I am Tosk" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:48:32 -0600, wrote:

I have to wonder if you intimidate and mock Christian students in your
charge. My kid had a teacher like that a few years ago, used to really
crush one of her friends pretty bad for being religious. Right in front
of the other kids, it was bad...

Our kids go to a private Catholic school for just that reason. The PC of
public schools is out of control. I want my kids to be proud of their
religion, and get a top notch education to boot. The public schools
around here, just plain suck.

--Mike


How do you explain the pedophiliac priests? Are you proud of that aspect
of your religion, too?

Wow, can i volunteer to help the kiddies?

Now this must be Dan Kruger doing the spoofing.

Don White wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
news
Harry wrote:
mgg wrote:
"I am Tosk" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:48:32 -0600, wrote:

I have to wonder if you intimidate and mock Christian students in your
charge. My kid had a teacher like that a few years ago, used to really
crush one of her friends pretty bad for being religious. Right in front
of the other kids, it was bad...
Our kids go to a private Catholic school for just that reason. The PC of
public schools is out of control. I want my kids to be proud of their
religion, and get a top notch education to boot. The public schools
around here, just plain suck.

--Mike

How do you explain the pedophiliac priests? Are you proud of that aspect
of your religion, too?
Wow, can i volunteer to help the kiddies?

Now this must be Dan Kruger doing the spoofing.




Hmmm. I thought we decided the spoofers were flajim, justhate, loogy and
sw tom?

Harry wrote:
Don White wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
news
Harry wrote:
mgg wrote:
"I am Tosk" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:48:32 -0600, wrote:

I have to wonder if you intimidate and mock Christian students in
your
charge. My kid had a teacher like that a few years ago, used to
really
crush one of her friends pretty bad for being religious. Right in
front
of the other kids, it was bad...
Our kids go to a private Catholic school for just that reason. The
PC of public schools is out of control. I want my kids to be proud
of their religion, and get a top notch education to boot. The
public schools around here, just plain suck.

--Mike

How do you explain the pedophiliac priests? Are you proud of that
aspect of your religion, too?
Wow, can i volunteer to help the kiddies?

Now this must be Dan Kruger doing the spoofing.




Hmmm. I thought we decided the spoofers were flajim, justhate, loogy and
sw tom?


You have broken your oath of secrecy. You are no longer welcome in the
spoofers club. Please turn in your Harry handle and don't let the door
hit you in the ass on your way out.

We now have an opening for a new spoofer. Please post your interest in
the position along with a valid Email address. We will review all
applications and notify the new appointee via Email.